LeSudAfricaine:
your music is not that good, sorry our standards are high!

Yet millions of South Africans get thrilled and dance haywire when P-SQUARE, D'BANJ and TUFACE climb your music stage to play

jln115:

Oh really? Nothing advanced....Guessing that's why the Algerian chose the Umkhonto Missiles for its Frigates and also the exact same helicopter.

Algeria buys almost anything, Chinese missile, Russian missile, French missile, spending spree. Algeria also has superior Russian missiles on their Tiger class frigates, they outrange the Umkhonto by far.

How many world navies bought Denel Umkhonto missile apart from SAN? 2 customers.

3 other navies evaluated it and dumped Umkhonto...8km max ceiling shiiit....ordinary Alpha jets will r.ape Valour frigate to death
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agaugust:


Yet millions of South Africans get thrilled and dance haywire when P-SQUARE, D'BANJ and TUFACE climb your music stage to play

That's an exaggeration in yout part sir

Henry120:


- Apartheid government

- Angola is "communist".

Angola communist? are you delusional?

LeSudAfricaine:
That's an exaggeration in your part sir

That's ignorance on your part sir

agaugust:


That's ignorance on your part sir

you basically want me to say what you want to hear? Your music is not that good period! It might be popular in other countries on the continent but in SA, we're into our own house music

agaugust:


Algeria buys almost anything, Chinese missile, Russian missile, French missile, spending spree. Algeria also has superior Russian missiles on their Tiger class frigates, they outrange the Umkhonto by far.

How many world navies bought Denel Umkhonto missile apart from SAN? 2 customers.

3 other navies evaluated it and dumped Umkhonto...8km max ceiling shiiit....ordinary Alpha jets will r.ape Valour frigate to death
.

If it was so sh1t, why did Algeria choose it for their Flagship surface combatant? Also Brazil is also evaluating it.

jln115:

If it was so sh1t, why did Algeria choose it for their Flagship surface combatant? Also Brazil is also evaluating it.

Meko frigate is NOT flagship of Algeria, they have superior Russian Tiger frigates.

Algeria just bought it to diversify weapons purchases as usual.

Brazil is just evaluating not buying, they are fooling you for the sake of friendship, they avoided Rooivalk and bought Hind E like Nigeria.

If Umkhonto's not shiiit, why did Sweden reject it?
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LeSudAfricaine:
you basically want me to say what you want to hear? Your music is not that good period! It might be popular in other countries on the continent but in SA, we're into our own house music

Yet ALL South Africans 'worship' Nigerian stars... http://thenet.ng/2015/02/photo-did-dbanj-receive-head-on-stage-in-south-africa/

The above photo is too much to post, so let me stop with the weblink so that Mandela will not weep in his grave

agaugust:


Meko frigate is NOT flagship of Algeria, they have superior Russian Tiger frigates.

Algeria just bought it to diversify weapons purchases as usual.

Brazil is just evaluating not buying, they are fooling you for the sake of friendship, they avoided Rooivalk and bought Hind E like Nigeria.

If Umkhonto's not shiiit, why did Sweden reject it?
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Sweden rejected it due to budgetary constraints, a decision was taken in to delete the SAM requirement all together.

And the Valour class has double the range of the Tiger class, double the endurance, Much much better armed, should I go on?

jln115:

Sweden rejected it due to budgetary constraints, a decision was taken in to delete the SAM requirement all together.

And the Valour class has double the range of the Tiger class, double the endurance, Much much better armed, should I go on?

Why go on with no proof? Citations for Tiger Vs Valour.

Sweden saw that the Umkhonto was not worth the price, they won't budget so much millions for a missile with 8km max ceiling.

Indonesia and Bangladesh dumped Umkhonot and bought Chinese/European missiles.

Tiger class frigates are superior to Valour frigates
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agaugust:


Why go on with no proof? Citations for Tiger Vs Valour.

Sweden saw that the Umkhonto was not worth the price, they won't budget so much millions for a missile with 8km max ceiling.

Indonesia and Bangladesh dumped Umkhonot and bought Chinese/European missiles.

Tiger class frigates are superior to Valour frigates
.

Nope Sweden cancelled its SAM project altogether.
Bangladesh chose a Chinese Frigate above the one South Korea was offering which would've used the Umkhonto missile, thus they rejected the whole system offered by S Korea and not just the missile.

Valour vs Tiger


http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/east-european-navies-vessels-ships-equipment/russian-navy-vessels-ships-equipment/patrolsmall-fighting-ships/74-project-203802038220385-steregushchytigr-class-corvette--stealth-steregushchiy-soobrazitelnyy-boiky-sovershennyy-stoiky-provornyy-russian-navy-datasheet-pictures-photos-video-specifications.html

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6524:fact-file-valour-class-small-guided-missile-frigates-&catid=79:fact-files&Itemid=159

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/year-2014-news/december-2014-navy-naval-forces-maritime-industry-technology-security-global-news/2272-german-built-meko-a-200-an-frigate-for-algerian-navy-launched-by-tkms-in-kiel.html

agaugust:


Yet ALL South Africans 'worship' Nigerian stars... http://thenet.ng/2015/02/photo-did-dbanj-receive-head-on-stage-in-south-africa/

The above photo is too much to post, so let me stop with the weblink so that Mandela will not weep in his grave

u mean dat ugly thing , she probably Nigerian . Truth is yo music gets played in certain clubs but that's about it ..yo music isn't that big here as it is in Africa .we hav our own music which is of waaay better quality than that crap from Lagos

jln115:

What error dude? each time you quote me you modify my post to make yourself feel better, and yes I do know the original is still there, how do you think I know your modifying posts if the original wasn't different to the ones you modified?

don't be a sore loser, southie.

What's the point of modifying a post when the original is standing right above it?

You You like bringing up trivia to cover up the substance.

LeSudAfricaine:
you basically want me to say what you want to hear? Your music is not that good period! It might be popular in other countries on the continent but in SA, we're into our own house music

Nigeria has the most potent soft power in Africa and that is due to her music and movies.

Your opinion is confined to the trash can.

RudzSA:
u mean dat ugly thing , she probably Nigerian . Truth is yo music gets played in certain clubs but that's about it ..yo music isn't that big here as it is in Africa .we hav our own music which is of waaay better quality than that crap from Lagos

Zulu got no style

Henry120:
It is also funny how the Famas F1 from France(South-Africa's master), which is the world's worst and un-reliable modern rifle cost €1500, while the AK-103 which is amongst the best and is the most reliable assault rifle cost $500 a unit.

The bad french rifle cost over 2 times more than the relible AK103.

High cost, doesn't equal quality

Henry-BecauseISaySo-120

agaugust:



[s]Only a fool thinks a Valour frigate with very short range SAM with 8km ceiling, scrap yard repainted 1977 metal gun that reduced ship stealth, old year 1990s generation Exocets, radars, sensors, and equipment is something to boast about. The only new thing on a Valour frigate is the body/hull and the ship's name

Don't drag this forum back to old posts and comments.

NNS Aradu was re-fit in year 2001 with modern radars, sonar, sensors, all weapon systems cleaned out, guns fired, missile systems all in good order. The radar/sensor/sonar are all new and comparable to those on the Valour frigate has year 1999 weapons/equipment and a 1977 gun brought in from scrap yard and repainted.

That was posted here with sources last year, both harpoon databases and the Spanish website when you said it was a false claim and you edited Wikipedia that time on Roland missile shooting down bombs.

Show us proof that the Aradu missiles have expired and yet not removed to avoid hazard. Show us source of their expiry date. You private opinion is NOT a source.

All NNS Aradu weapons are superior to Valour frigate.

= 127mm gun has 15 km range, Valour gun is only 8 km

= Otomat MK 1 anti-ship does 2 missiles fired together and cooperate to increase range to 80 km, Otomat MK 2 range is 120 km, Valour Exocet is only 70 km

= Aspide BVR anti-aircraft missile is 75 km range, Valour is 12 km

= NNS Aradu torpedoes are Whitehead A244S torpedoes

No wonder fear and panic grips every South African when they hear of NNS Aradu refit and return to sea !

One Aradu will sink the entire South African navy in one day !

Nobody will waste time going back to repeat old posts and sources that have been proved here in 2014 . PROVED : http://archive.is/qUExe

CASE CLOSED ![/s]

Short range otomats - never been test fired, past their use-by date
Obsolete SAM's - never been test fired, past their use-by date
Unknown torpedos - doubt that they even exist
Obsolete combat suite - pathetic capabilities
Obsolete sensors - ancient hardware
Crew with ZERO training and ZERO experience
A navy with no training in full spectrum maritime warfare.

lezz:
Zulu got no style

u can't seem to grasp reality ..u liv in a bubble probably in Kano or sumtin . Go ask dbanj who's Africa's boss hel tel u

RudzSA:
u can't seem to grasp reality ..u liv in a bubble probably in Kano or sumtin . Go ask dbanj who's Africa's boss hel tel u

yes he's Africa's boss and Zulu need lots of pap to make noise

lezz:
yes he's Africa's boss and Zulu need lots of pap to make noise

yes, they enjoy pap but on the other hand your people enjoy dog and human meat.

lezz:
Nigeria has the most potent soft power in Africa and that is due to her music and movies.

Your opinion is confined to the trash can.

Nigeria's music is not that good, that is how I feel, sorry to hurt your feelings,

Don't get me started with those glorified "home videos"lol

agaugust:


Yet ALL South Africans 'worship' Nigerian stars... http://thenet.ng/2015/02/photo-did-dbanj-receive-head-on-stage-in-south-africa/

The above photo is too much to post, so let me stop with the weblink so that Mandela will not weep in his grave

No, Nigerian stars are not worshiped in SA, stop lying, that autotune nonsense is generally not appreciated down South, don't force your yourself on us

lionel4power:
nigeria navy has replenishment, oilers, resupply ships dummy, we have VERTREP and replenishment at sea (RAS) we have four resupply ships. Just one of them escorted Aradu during her journey to UK for trafalgar. Our auxilliary vessels and oilers are not usually listed anywhere since they are not capital warships.

Just like Aradu.

Unoperational and obsolete.

agaugust:


Can South African navy attack Nigeria from your base and survive Nigeria's integrated defenses?

Dude, you forget that Nigerian navy is one of the biggest and most active in Africa, as well as the most experienced. Force projection? Yes Nigeria has four Balsam Class logistics ships for re-supply at sea and some of our four logistics re-supply ships have 22,000 km range !

How do you think Nigeria easily patrols oceans from Lagos to Accra to Angola? You think our ships come back home to replenish all the time?

Ignoramus.

Dreams!

LeSudAfricaine:
Nigeria's music is not that good, that is how I feel, sorry to hurt your feelings,

Don't get me started with those glorified "home videos"lol

we are the best in Africa. Your opinion isn't worth a mention

MulaahEG:
yes, they enjoy pap but on the other hand your people enjoy dog and human meat.

Zulu is a byword for savagery and cannibalism

The Afrikaans still justify apartheid due to absolute uncouthness of Zulu heritage

LeSudAfricaine:
No, Nigerian stars are not worshiped in SA, stop lying, that autotune nonsense is generally not appreciated down South, don't force your yourself on us

you're the lying one. Hardly an S.A club where Nigerian music isn't blasting. Nigerian music are the most played in BBA.

D'banj opened your world cup.

Henry120:

This is not true!!
No offence taken, it's the internet, why would I be offended in the first place.

hehehehe..see denial!
You are mouthed oga mi....was just poking fun at you.
Good job on nairaland,your patriotism is very much acknowledged.

Lezzlie:
don't be a sore loser, southie.

What's the point of modifying a post when the original is standing right above it?

You You like bringing up trivia to cover up the substance.

Why would you change it in the first place bro?

lezz:
Zulu is a byword for savagery and cannibalism

The Afrikaans still justify apartheid due to absolute uncouthness of Zulu heritage

If Afrikaners justify apartheid, why do most of us vote DA?

lezz:
you're the lying one. Hardly an S.A club where Nigerian music isn't blasting. Nigerian music are the most played in BBA.

D'banj opened your world cup.

D'banj opened the world Cup, in keeping with the "African world cup" theme, other african artists like K'naan of Somalia also took part . South African clubs do play two or three tracks from Wizkid or so,but on the whole Nigerian music is not that popular in SA, South African people are crazy about house music, that's what comes first