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Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:26pm On Jun 05, 2015 |
smartesboys: Good questions. ![]() |
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:28pm On Jun 05, 2015 |
kolajamesjnr: He is not created and that's why He is God. He is the uncreated Creator. ![]() |
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:28pm On Jun 05, 2015 |
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Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:29pm On Jun 05, 2015 |
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:30pm On Jun 05, 2015 |
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by Redlyn: 4:30pm On Jun 05, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: Like I said, good for you if you have all the answers. OLAADEGBU: Science only goes as far back as the expansion of the universe from a single infinitely dense point. What is unknown by science is how that point came to be. So when I say nobody knows how the universe was created its in reference to that initial state of existence. |
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:14pm On Jun 05, 2015 |
Redlyn: I have connection with the One who has all the answers and I can tap into this reservoir of knowledge and wisdom by the grace of God. Redlyn: You need to do real science which will only end up confirming the assertions of the Bible. There are only three possibilities from where the universe can come from. By way of elimination we will arrive at the scientific evidence of the origin of the universe which took just 6 days. Here are the three options: (1). The universe created itself; (2). The universe has always existed, (3). The universe was created. Here we go: 1. The universe created itself: Can something create itself? Can nothing create something? The answer to these is an absolute No. We all know that something cannot create itself and nothing can't create something. From Latin we have the phrase "ex nihilo, nihil fit" meaning "from nothing, nothing comes." It also violates the law of cause and effect, that says for every effect there must be a cause. The effect can't be greater than the cause and nothing cannot be greater than something. Therefore, based on the laws of science and logic, the universe couldn't have created itself. That leaves us with options 2 and 3. 2. The univese has always existed: Lets go to the 2nd law of thermodynamics that basically teaches that "the whole universe is losing usable energy for doing usable work." This means that the usable energy in this universe is wearing down. The universe as a whole is losing energy. In other words, molecules as a whole are slowing down. Therefore, if this universe was eternal we will be in what is called a "virtual heat death." This means that there will be virtually no molecular movement. Everything would have lost its available heat energy for doing work. Therefore, the universe cannot be eternal, it must have had a beginning. The theory that the universe has always existed or is eternal has to be false based on the law of science and logic, another speculation gone with the air. This leaves us with only one possibility based on science. Which is that: 3. The universe was created: "In the Beginning God created the heaven and the earth." -- Genesis 1:1 |
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by johnydon22(m): 10:44am On Jun 06, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: I don't know just like you because none of us were there when it started. it is still a subject of study and research till now... ![]() |
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:11pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
johnydon22: This is nescience per excellence. Do you know when you were born, was it not the record books (D.O.B.) that you read and believed that gave you an idea as to when you might have been born? Why not believe the account of creation as recorded in the book of Genesis? |
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by kolajamesjnr(m): 1:16pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
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Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by johnydon22(m): 1:20pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: same reason why you don't believe the Mesopotamian creation story, the Babylonian creation story (enuma elish) the canaanite creation story, the egyptian creation story even though all these stories i just mentioned predates the biblical story by thousands of years. even the biblical saga was a reworked copy of the enuma elish. actually my mother is a first hand witness of how i was born, same where the doctors and nurses present. i wouldn't say no one knows how i was born cus many people know this first having performed this. so why dont you believe all these older creation stories i just mentioned even when it predates the biblical story and it borrow theme and motif from enuma elish..? |
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:30pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
johnydon22: The mythological stories you mentioned above does not add up when you put them to scientific and historical tests. Science confirms the Genesis account and above that the Bible is of supernatural origin. johnydon22: And you believed them? Has it not been known that some shady nurses and doctors swap babies? johnydon22: It all boils down faith based on solid evidence. My faith is based on solid evidence which can be experimentally or experientially proved. |
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by johnydon22(m): 1:43pm On Jun 06, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU:What dah heck? Mythologies? yet they predate the one you believe. the one you believe copied from them. Enuma elish is mythology but the genesis story that copied from it is not mythology. . . Now take a look at this!!! Science confirms genesis story ![]() ![]() same you went further to term the story supernatural since when did science start studying supernatural shenanigans ![]() Another name for supernatural fables in science is Mythology ![]() We are talking about how babies were born not about swapping babies. . . Methods of child births are observed facts of which we have even videos of them now. so you believe the Genesis story by faith and disbelieve the enuma elish from whence it was copied from...isnt that laughable? ![]() Nope your faith is based on mythology taught to you from child birth till now.. am sure if ur parents waited for u to get up to 21 to tell you a certain man harboured all the species of animals in the world for months in one ship you probably wont believe it. Faith is not certainty, you dont need faith to know you are male (if you are) . . faith is only required in unsure situations. That i have faith that there is a diamond bearded rabbit that created the universe , doesn't make it true, if u like let your faith reach to the highest mountains it has no weight on truth... Hindus have faith in theirs muslims same xtians same. (Its all believing mythologies) Your faith doesnt make anything true, it doesnt even make it probably true. it just means you believe it anyway whether its true or not 1 Like |
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:30pm On Jun 08, 2015 |
johnydon22: There are true myths if you may know. The Bible is not a science textbook but whenever it speaks about science you can go and sleep on it because it is accurate. The Bible is more than scientific it is of supernatural origin as it speaks about historical events and prophecies. You can put it to the test and it will remain standing. I can give you scientific evidence that there has to be a God who created the universe and this will only end up confirming the truth of the Bible. johnydon22: I was talking about your date of birth and parents are to an extent a measure of faith on your part. johnydon22: Faith is having confidence in something we have not perceived with our physical senses. For example, you believe in the laws of logic but laws of logic are not material, they are abstract and cannot be experienced by our senses. When you use laws of logic you have confidence in what you cannot actually observe with your senses, this is a type of faith if you don't know. We all presume that gravity will work tomorrow as it does work today but no one has actually observed the future. So, we all believe something that is beyond our sensory experience. As a Christian, we have a reasonable belief that God has promised us that He would uphold the universe in a consistent way and thereby, we have good reasons for our faith in the uniformity of nature. For the consistent Christian, faith and logic go well together. |
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:50pm On Jun 10, 2015 |
Daily Manna |
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:19pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
Do you hate God? God doesn't believe in atheists. "Blessed is the man that hears me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors. For whoso finds me finds life, and shall obtain favour of the Lord. But he that sins against me wrongs his own soul: all they that hate me love death" (Proverbs 8:34-36). |
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:06pm On Jun 19, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: I wonder why atheists don't hate fairies. ![]()
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Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:52pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:50am On Apr 23, 2018 |
OLAADEGBU: www.livingwaters.com "I don't hate God. I just don't believe He exists." There is no greater contempt that you can have for another person than to, in their presence, deny that they exist. That's what you are doing. Source: https://www.facebook.com/official.Ray.Comfort 21 April 2017 ·
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Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:28pm On Apr 29, 2018 |
www.livingwaters.com "Which is the right God?" There is only one Creator—that's the One who gave Moses the Ten Commandments, the One who provided the only Saviour--the One who can save you from a very real Hell. Jesus said, "If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself" (John 7:17). Do the will of God—repent and trust in Jesus, and you will know the truth. Source: https://www.facebook.com/official.Ray.Comfort 29 April 2017 at 14:00 ·
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Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by Octaves(m): 12:53am On May 01, 2018 |
then stfu and stop making posts about him. |
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:08am On May 01, 2018 |
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Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by Octaves(m): 1:13am On May 01, 2018 |
OLAADEGBU:I believe in God because I've experienced him in my life. I'm talking about you. is it not stupid living in the religious section and making threads about Somebody you don't even believe exist. |
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:25am On May 01, 2018 |
Octaves: If you truly believe in God you would not be trolling without understanding what this thread is about. ![]()
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Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:31pm On May 29, 2018 |
www.livingwaters.com "I don't hate God. I just don't believe He exists." Such is the way of many cultures that if a son or daughter marries out of the faith or does something of which they strongly disagree, in the parent's minds, they no longer exist. There is no greater contempt for a person than to so hate them they don't exist in your mind. From: http://store.livingwaters.com/books/jaws-without-teeth.html Source: https://www.facebook.com/official.Ray.Comfort 29 May 2017 at 14:00 ·
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Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by Zodiac61(m): 2:41pm On May 29, 2018 |
godsamist: If this is the logic of the believer, I know for sure that God does not exist. No intelligence required. 1 Like |
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:28pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by wickedtuna: 4:54pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
godsamist:judge not so be thou not judged. How can you utter such disgusting words to say someone has outlived his purpose... Repent! So you dont outlive yours. Shalom. ![]() |
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by wickedtuna: 5:00pm On Aug 27, 2019 |
ojimbo:Hello sir. I dont know if you have read the book "The Secret Teachings Of All Ages" by Manly P. Hall. i recommend it. |
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