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Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:26pm On Jun 05, 2015
smartesboys:


I'm surprised to see people like you who their heart is as black as coal are trying to object the real fact.
you're claming that god don't exit, so who created you? did you create yourself? how? who feeds you and gives you health? ? when you're affected who you often call to make you healthy?

Good questions. smiley
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:28pm On Jun 05, 2015
kolajamesjnr:


Did mean something or someone ceated God too

He is not created and that's why He is God. He is the uncreated Creator. smiley
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:28pm On Jun 05, 2015
9niceguy:


God is nt a man

Good point. smiley

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Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:29pm On Jun 05, 2015
kolajamesjnr:


So he existed out of nothing grin

He is eternal. smiley
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:30pm On Jun 05, 2015
olisadon:


THE FOOL SAYS IN HIS HEART THAT THERE IS NO GOD PSALM 14 VS 1

True. wink
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by Redlyn: 4:30pm On Jun 05, 2015
OLAADEGBU:

What is a mystery to you is a revelation to those who know the One who has all the answers.

Like I said, good for you if you have all the answers.

OLAADEGBU:

It can be scientifically proved that the universe was created if you care to know

Science only goes as far back as the expansion of the universe from a single infinitely dense point.
What is unknown by science is how that point came to be.
So when I say nobody knows how the universe was created its in reference to that initial state of existence.
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:14pm On Jun 05, 2015
Redlyn:


Like I said, good for you if you have all the answers.

I have connection with the One who has all the answers and I can tap into this reservoir of knowledge and wisdom by the grace of God.

Redlyn:


Science only goes as far back as the expansion of the universe from a single infinitely dense point.
What is unknown by science is how that point came to be.
So when I say nobody knows how the universe was created its in reference to that initial state of existence.

You need to do real science which will only end up confirming the assertions of the Bible.

There are only three possibilities from where the universe can come from. By way of elimination we will arrive at the scientific evidence of the origin of the universe which took just 6 days.

Here are the three options:

(1). The universe created itself;

(2). The universe has always existed,

(3). The universe was created.

Here we go:

1. The universe created itself:

Can something create itself? Can nothing create something? The answer to these is an absolute No. We all know that something cannot create itself and nothing can't create something. From Latin we have the phrase "ex nihilo, nihil fit" meaning "from nothing, nothing comes." It also violates the law of cause and effect, that says for every effect there must be a cause. The effect can't be greater than the cause and nothing cannot be greater than something. Therefore, based on the laws of science and logic, the universe couldn't have created itself. That leaves us with options 2 and 3.

2. The univese has always existed:

Lets go to the 2nd law of thermodynamics that basically teaches that "the whole universe is losing usable energy for doing usable work." This means that the usable energy in this universe is wearing down. The universe as a whole is losing energy. In other words, molecules as a whole are slowing down.

Therefore, if this universe was eternal we will be in what is called a "virtual heat death." This means that there will be virtually no molecular movement. Everything would have lost its available heat energy for doing work. Therefore, the universe cannot be eternal, it must have had a beginning. The theory that the universe has always existed or is eternal has to be false based on the law of science and logic, another speculation gone with the air. This leaves us with only one possibility based on science. Which is that:

3. The universe was created:

"In the Beginning God created the heaven and the earth." -- Genesis 1:1
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by johnydon22(m): 10:44am On Jun 06, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


With all your purported comprehension can you tell us how life originated? undecided

I don't know just like you because none of us were there when it started. it is still a subject of study and research till now... smiley
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:11pm On Jun 06, 2015
johnydon22:


I don't know just like you because none of us were there when it started. it is still a subject of study and research till now... smiley

This is nescience per excellence. Do you know when you were born, was it not the record books (D.O.B.) that you read and believed that gave you an idea as to when you might have been born? Why not believe the account of creation as recorded in the book of Genesis?
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by kolajamesjnr(m): 1:16pm On Jun 06, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


This is nescience per excellence. Do you know when you were born, was it not the record books that you read and believed that gave you an idea as to when you might have been born? Why not believe the account of creation as recorded in the book of Genesis?
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by johnydon22(m): 1:20pm On Jun 06, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


This is nescience per excellence. Do you know when you were born, was it not the record books that you read and believed that gave you an idea as to when you might have been born? Why not believe the account of creation as recorded in the book of Genesis?

same reason why you don't believe the Mesopotamian creation story, the Babylonian creation story (enuma elish) the canaanite creation story, the egyptian creation story even though all these stories i just mentioned predates the biblical story by thousands of years. even the biblical saga was a reworked copy of the enuma elish.

actually my mother is a first hand witness of how i was born, same where the doctors and nurses present. i wouldn't say no one knows how i was born cus many people know this first having performed this.

so why dont you believe all these older creation stories i just mentioned even when it predates the biblical story and it borrow theme and motif from enuma elish..?
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:30pm On Jun 06, 2015
johnydon22:


same reason why you don't believe the Mesopotamian creation story, the Babylonian creation story (enuma elish) the canaanite creation story, the egyptian creation story even though all these stories i just mentioned predates the biblical story by thousands of years. even the biblical saga was a reworked copy of the enuma elish.

The mythological stories you mentioned above does not add up when you put them to scientific and historical tests. Science confirms the Genesis account and above that the Bible is of supernatural origin.

johnydon22:


actually my mother is a first hand witness of how i was born, same where the doctors and nurses present. i wouldn't say no one knows how i was born cus many people know this first having performed this.

And you believed them? Has it not been known that some shady nurses and doctors swap babies?

johnydon22:


so why dont you believe all these older creation stories i just mentioned even when it predates the biblical story and it borrow theme and motif from enuma elish..?

It all boils down faith based on solid evidence. My faith is based on solid evidence which can be experimentally or experientially proved.
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by johnydon22(m): 1:43pm On Jun 06, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


The mythological stories you mentioned above does not add up when you put them to scientific and historical tests. Science confirms the Genesis account and above that the Bible is of supernatural origin.
What dah heck? Mythologies? yet they predate the one you believe.
the one you believe copied from them.

Enuma elish is mythology but the genesis story that copied from it is not mythology. . . Now take a look at this!!!

Science confirms genesis story how please
same you went further to term the story supernatural since when did science start studying supernatural shenanigans
Another name for supernatural fables in science is Mythology
smiley

And you believed them? Has it not been known that some shady nurses and doctors swap babies?
We are talking about how babies were born not about swapping babies. . . Methods of child births are observed facts of which we have even videos of them now.



It all boils down faith based on solid evidence. My faith is based on solid evidence which can be experimentally or experientially proved.
so you believe the Genesis story by faith and disbelieve the enuma elish from whence it was copied from...isnt that laughable? cheesy

Nope your faith is based on mythology taught to you from child birth till now.. am sure if ur parents waited for u to get up to 21 to tell you a certain man harboured all the species of animals in the world for months in one ship you probably wont believe it.

Faith is not certainty, you dont need faith to know you are male (if you are) . . faith is only required in unsure situations.

That i have faith that there is a diamond bearded rabbit that created the universe , doesn't make it true, if u like let your faith reach to the highest mountains it has no weight on truth...

Hindus have faith in theirs
muslims same
xtians same.

(Its all believing mythologies)

Your faith doesnt make anything true, it doesnt even make it probably true. it just means you believe it anyway whether its true or not

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Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:30pm On Jun 08, 2015
johnydon22:


What dah heck? Mythologies? yet they predate the one you believe.
the one you believe copied from them.

Enuma elish is mythology but the genesis story that copied from it is not mythology. . . Now take a look at this!!!

Science confirms genesis story how please
same you went further to term the story supernatural since when did science start studying supernatural shenanigans
Another name for supernatural fables in science is Mythology
smiley

There are true myths if you may know. The Bible is not a science textbook but whenever it speaks about science you can go and sleep on it because it is accurate. The Bible is more than scientific it is of supernatural origin as it speaks about historical events and prophecies. You can put it to the test and it will remain standing. I can give you scientific evidence that there has to be a God who created the universe and this will only end up confirming the truth of the Bible.

johnydon22:


We are talking about how babies were born not about swapping babies. . . Methods of child births are observed facts of which we have even videos of them now.

I was talking about your date of birth and parents are to an extent a measure of faith on your part.

johnydon22:


so you believe the Genesis story by faith and disbelieve the enuma elish from whence it was copied from...isnt that laughable? cheesy

Nope your faith is based on mythology taught to you from child birth till now.. am sure if ur parents waited for u to get up to 21 to tell you a certain man harboured all the species of animals in the world for months in one ship you probably wont believe it.

Faith is not certainty, you dont need faith to know you are male (if you are) . . faith is only required in unsure situations.

That i have faith that there is a diamond bearded rabbit that created the universe , doesn't make it true, if u like let your faith reach to the highest mountains it has no weight on truth...

Hindus have faith in theirs
muslims same
xtians same.

(Its all believing mythologies)

Your faith doesnt make anything true, it doesnt even make it probably true. it just means you believe it anyway whether its true or not

Faith is having confidence in something we have not perceived with our physical senses. For example, you believe in the laws of logic but laws of logic are not material, they are abstract and cannot be experienced by our senses. When you use laws of logic you have confidence in what you cannot actually observe with your senses, this is a type of faith if you don't know.

We all presume that gravity will work tomorrow as it does work today but no one has actually observed the future. So, we all believe something that is beyond our sensory experience. As a Christian, we have a reasonable belief that God has promised us that He would uphold the universe in a consistent way and thereby, we have good reasons for our faith in the uniformity of nature. For the consistent Christian, faith and logic go well together.
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:50pm On Jun 10, 2015
Daily Manna
Wednesday, June 10, 2015

A God-Denying World

TEXT: PSALM 53:1-6

"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good" (Psalm 53:1).

The world has made many attempts to deny the existence of the Living God Who is in charge of the whole universe and to Whom everyone is responsible and accountable. In spite of the very many undeniable evidences of the existence of God, modern-day atheists through their secularism, liberalism and modernism, have refused to acknowledge Him. They have tried, though with no success at all, to disprove all that points to His reality.

Our text reveals that this denial of the existence of God is not new and only describes such people as fools. It further shows the reason for such denial and the obvious outcome of a world and life without God. Those that deny the existence of God do so because they don’t want to be answerable to Him. They are obviously afraid of a God that would hold them accountable for all their deeds and practices. This is an attempt to free their minds from the thought of a possible future judgment where they would have to account for their sinful lifestyle. Denying the existence of God means that man is only accountable to himself and so is at liberty to live whichever way he chooses.

The ever increasing rate of sinful practices today is an evidence of a God-rejecting age. The world may call it “civilization”, “liberalism”, “enlightenment”, or whatever but it is nothing but sheer backwardness and a movement to the primitive age of bondage. What makes this even more sad is that many Christians who seem to profess faith in the existence of God also live as if He does not exist.

As Christians, we need to continue to prove to the world that our God is real and in charge of our lives and universe by making the world see God in us and through us. When we manifest an incorruptible life of holiness and righteousness in the face of the wanton decay and pollution that mark our world, they will come to believe.

BIBLE IN ONE YEAR: 2 CHRONICLES 9 - 12

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THOUGHT FOR THE DAY: "Those who deny the existence of God only do it to their own hurt"

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Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:19pm On Jun 12, 2015
Do you hate God? God doesn't believe in atheists.

"Blessed is the man that hears me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors. For whoso finds me finds life, and shall obtain favour of the Lord. But he that sins against me wrongs his own soul: all they that hate me love death" (Proverbs 8:34-36).
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:06pm On Jun 19, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


Do you hate God? God doesn't believe in atheists.

"Blessed is the man that hears me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors. For whoso finds me finds life, and shall obtain favour of the Lord. But he that sins against me wrongs his own soul: all they that hate me love death" (Proverbs 8:34-36).

I wonder why atheists don't hate fairies. undecided

Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:52pm On Oct 27, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


I wonder why atheists don't hate fairies. undecided

Because they don't exist. cool
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:50am On Apr 23, 2018
OLAADEGBU:


Words of Comfort: "I don't hate God. I just don't believe He exists."

"I don't hate God. I just don't believe He exists."

Such is the way of many cultures that if a son or daughter marries out of the faith or does something of which they strongly disagree, in the parent's minds, they no longer exist. There is no greater contempt for a person than to so hate them they don't exist in your mind.

http://www.onthebox.us/…/words-of-comfort-i-dont-hate-god-i…

www.livingwaters.com

"I don't hate God. I just don't believe He exists."

There is no greater contempt that you can have for another person than to, in their presence, deny that they exist. That's what you are doing.

Source: https://www.facebook.com/official.Ray.Comfort 21 April 2017 ·

Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:28pm On Apr 29, 2018
www.livingwaters.com

"Which is the right God?"

There is only one Creator—that's the One who gave Moses the Ten Commandments, the One who provided the only Saviour--the One who can save you from a very real Hell.

Jesus said, "If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself" (John 7:17). Do the will of God—repent and trust in Jesus, and you will know the truth.

Source: https://www.facebook.com/official.Ray.Comfort 29 April 2017 at 14:00 ·

Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by Octaves(m): 12:53am On May 01, 2018
then stfu and stop making posts about him.
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:08am On May 01, 2018
Octaves:


then stfu and stop making posts about him.

Another angry atheist. cheesy

Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by Octaves(m): 1:13am On May 01, 2018
OLAADEGBU:


Another angry atheist. cheesy
I believe in God because I've experienced him in my life. I'm talking about you. is it not stupid living in the religious section and making threads about Somebody you don't even believe exist.
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:25am On May 01, 2018
Octaves:


I believe in God because I've experienced him in my life. I'm talking about you. is it not stupid living in the religious section and making threads about Somebody you don't even believe exist.

If you truly believe in God you would not be trolling without understanding what this thread is about. cool

Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:31pm On May 29, 2018
www.livingwaters.com
"I don't hate God. I just don't believe He exists."

Such is the way of many cultures that if a son or daughter marries out of the faith or does something of which they strongly disagree, in the parent's minds, they no longer exist. There is no greater contempt for a person than to so hate them they don't exist in your mind.

From: http://store.livingwaters.com/books/jaws-without-teeth.html

Source: https://www.facebook.com/official.Ray.Comfort 29 May 2017 at 14:00 ·

Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by Zodiac61(m): 2:41pm On May 29, 2018
godsamist:
Simple test to know whether God really exist or not..you have just a pair of eye,if you can use one of your eyes to look towards heaven and the other look down at the same time,then know for sure God dost exist!

If this is the logic of the believer, I know for sure that God does not exist.
No intelligence required.

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Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:28pm On Aug 27, 2019
9niceguy:


There is God almighty

That is obvious. Do you have saving faith in Jesus? undecided
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by wickedtuna: 4:54pm On Aug 27, 2019
godsamist:

I speak as His servant,your days on earth are numbered!
Repent or perish!
Seems you have outlived your purpose.
judge not so be thou not judged. How can you utter such disgusting words to say someone has outlived his purpose... Repent! So you dont outlive yours. Shalom. cheesy
Re: "I Don't Hate God. I Just Don't Believe He Exists." by wickedtuna: 5:00pm On Aug 27, 2019
ojimbo:
i am getting confused about this whole thing, i don't know why for some years now. i have been trying to know if i can figure out about 10% of the origin of man, there are many reasons to believe that a God exist and there are many reasons not to believe a God exist. but one thing is certain. every Religion is false.
if you look deep into the world, how humans and animals were specially made, even our own planet earth. you must agree with me that there is a special artist or decorator who must have made such things, take a look at our sex, where the penis and the vagina are located, we all have ears because probably the decorator knows very well it will be an essential organ of the body. If human beings must have evolved don't you think that we may not have also evolved with eyes and brains. final conclusion. both humans and animals were specially made.
at the other hand when you are referring to a God. many religions try to define God, some quoted they knew god very much. some quoted he created us in his own image. i know some people will try to quote me or trying to correct me in the aspect of God making man in his own image. the English language is clear and i really understand it. don't try to quote what you mean the bible said rather that what the bile means in his own language. so referring to a God, don't you think that someone more powerful must have made that God and so it goes. some miracles happened in the bible which are no longer existing now, like wise in Koran and so many other religious books
my final conclusion about this life[color=#990000][/color]
1) the Nature might be what we all refer to as God because the nature itself is self existence
2) if the God exist, do you think he cares if we get to know him or not?
3) i think the world may one day seize to exist, and every human and animals on earth will seize to exist
4) some people believed so much in life after death( where were you when you were not born, and where do you think you will be when you are dead) i guess some of you doesn't know what eternity means. it is beyond our imagination
5) thanks to whosoever or whatsoever that made this planet earth and the world itself.
Hello sir. I dont know if you have read the book "The Secret Teachings Of All Ages" by Manly P. Hall. i recommend it.

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