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Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Nobody: 8:39am On Jun 06, 2015
by Dr. Zakir Naik


The Most Concise Definition of God:

The most concise definition of God in Islam is given in the four verses of Surah Ikhlas which is Chapter 112 of the Qur’an:

"Say: He is Allah,
The One and Only.
"Allah, the Eternal, Absolute.
"He begets not, nor is He begotten.
And there is none like unto Him."
[Al-Qur’an 112:1-4]

The word ‘Assamad’ is difficult to translate. It means ‘absolute existence’, which can be attributed only to Allah (swt), all other existence being temporal or conditional. It also means that Allah (swt) is not dependant on any person or thing, but all persons and things are dependant on Him.


Surah Ikhlas - the touchstone of theology:

Surah Ikhlas (Chapter 112) of the Glorious Qur’an, is the touchstone of theology. ‘Theo’ in Greek means God and ‘logy’ means study. Thus Theology means study of God and to Muslims this four line definition of Almighty God serves as the touchstone of the study of God. Any candidate to divinity must be subjected to this ‘acid test’. Since the attributes of Allah given in this chapter are unique, false gods and pretenders to divinity can be easily dismissed using these verses.

What does Islam say about ‘god-men’?

India is often called the land of ‘god-men’. This is due to the abundance of so-called spiritual masters in India. Many of these ‘babas’ and ‘saints’ have a large following in many countries. Islam abhors deification of any human being. To understand the Islamic stand towards such pretenders to divinity, let us analyze one such ‘god-man’, Osho Rajneesh.

Let us put this candidate, ‘Bhagwan’ Rajneesh, to the test of Surah Ikhlas, the touchstone of theology:

i)
The first criterion is "Say, He is Allah, one and only". Is Rajneesh one and only? No! Rajneesh was one among the multitude of ‘spiritual teachers’ produced by India. Some disciples of Rajneesh might still hold that Rajneesh is one and only.

ii)
The second criterion is, ‘Allah is absolute and eternal’. We know from Rajneesh’s biography that he was suffering from diabetes, asthma, and chronic backache. He alleged that the U.S. Government gave him slow poison in prison. Imagine Almighty God being poisoned! Rajneesh was thus, neither absolute nor eternal.

iii)
The third criterion is ‘He begets not, nor is He begotten’. We know that Rajneesh was born in Jabalpur in India and had a mother as well as a father who later became his disciples.

In May 1981 he went to U.S.A. and established a town called ‘Rajneeshpuram’. He later fell foul of the West and was finally arrested and asked to leave the country. He came back to India and started a commune in Pune which is now known as the ‘Osho’ commune. He died in 1990. The followers of Osho Rajneesh believe that he is Almighty God. At the ‘Osho commune’ in Pune one can find the following epitaph on his tombstone:

"Osho – never born, never died; only visited the planet Earth between 11th December 1931 to 19th January 1990."

They forget to mention that he was not granted visa for 21 countries of the world. Can a person ever imagine ‘God’ visiting the earth, and requiring a visa to enter a country! The Archbishop of Greece said that if Rajneesh had not been deported, they would have burnt his house and those of his disciples.


(iv)
The fourth test, which is the most stringent is, "There is none like unto Him". The moment you can imagine or compare ‘God’ to anything, then he (the candidate to divinity) is not God. It is not possible to conjure up a mental picture of the One True God. We know that Rajneesh was a human being, having two eyes, two ears, a nose, a mouth and a white flowing beard. Photographs and posters of Rajneesh are available in plenty. The moment you can imagine or draw a mental picture of an entity, then that entity is not God.

Many are tempted to make anthropomorphic comparisons of God. Take for instance, Arnold Schwarzenegger, the famous body builder and Hollywood actor, who won the title of ‘Mr. Universe’, the strongest man in the world. Let us suppose that someone says that Almighty God is a thousand times stronger than Arnold Schwarzenegger. The moment you can compare any entity to God, whether the comparison is to Schwarzenegger or to King Kong, whether it is a thousand times or a million times stronger, it fails the Qur’anic criterion, "There is none like unto Him".

Thus, the ‘acid test’ cannot be passed by anyone except the One True God.

The following verse of the Glorious Qur’an conveys a similar message:

"No vision can grasp Him
But His grasp is over
All vision: He is
Above all comprehension,
Yet is acquainted with all things."
[Al-Qur’an 6:103]


By what name do we call God?

The Muslims prefer calling the Supreme Creator, Allah, instead of by the English word ‘God’. The Arabic word, ‘Allah’, is pure and unique, unlike the English word ‘God’, which can be played around with.

If you add ‘s’ to the word God, it becomes ‘Gods’, that is the plural of God. Allah is one and singular, there is no plural of Allah. If you add ‘dess’ to the word God, it becomes ‘Goddess’ that is a female God. There is nothing like male Allah or female Allah. Allah has no gender. If you add the word ‘father’ to ‘God’ it becomes ‘God-father’. God-father means someone who is a guardian. There is no word like ‘Allah-Abba’ or ‘Allah-father’. If you add the word ‘mother’ to ‘God’, it becomes ‘God-mother’. There is nothing like ‘Allah-Ammi’, or ‘Allah-mother’ in Islam. Allah is a unique word. If you prefix tin before the word God, it becomes tin-God i.e., fake God. Allah is a unique word, which does not conjure up any mental picture nor can it be played around with. Therefore the Muslims prefer using the Arabic word ‘Allah’ for the Almighty. Sometimes, however, while speaking to the non-Muslims we may have to use the inappropriate word God, for Allah. Since the intended audience of this article is general in nature, consisting of both Muslims as well as non-Muslims, I have used the word God instead of Allah in several places in this article.

God does not become a human being:

God does not take human form:


Some may argue that God does not become a human being but only takes a human form. If God only takes a human form but does not become a human being, He should not possess any human qualities. We know that all the ‘God-men’, have human qualities and failings. They have all the human needs such as the need to eat, sleep, etc.

The worship of God in human form is therefore a logical fallacy and should be abhorred in all its forms and manifestations.

That is the reason why the Qur’an speaks against all forms of anthropomorphism. The Glorious Qur’an says in the following verse:

"There is nothing whatever like unto Him."
[Al-Qur’an 42:11]


God does not perform ungodly acts:

The attributes of Almighty God preclude any evil since God is the source of justice, mercy and truth. God can never be thought of as doing an ungodly act. Hence we cannot imagine God telling a lie, being unjust, making a mistake, forgetting things, or having any such human failings. Similarly God can do injustice if He chooses to, but He will never do it because being unjust is an ungodly act.

The Qur’an says:

"Allah is never unjust In the least degree."
[Al-Qur’an 4:40]

God can be unjust if He chooses to be so, but the moment God does injustice, He ceases to be God.


God does not make mistakes
God can make mistakes if He wants to, but He does not make mistakes because making a mistake is an ungodly act. The Qur’an says:

"…my Lord never errs."
[Holy Qur’an 20:52]

The moment God makes a mistake, he ceases to be God.


God does not forget

God can forget if He wants to. But God does not forget anything because forgetting is an ungodly act, which reeks of human limitations and failings. The Qur’an says:

"…my Lord never errs, nor forgets."
[Al-Qur’an 20:52]


God only performs Godly acts:

The Islamic concept of God is that God has power over all things. The Qur’an says in several places (Al -Qur’an 2:106; 2:109; 2:284; 3:29; 16:77; and 35:1):

"For verily Allah has power over all things"

Further, the Glorious Qur’an says:

"Allah is the doer of all that He intends."
[Al-Qur’an 85:16]

We must keep in mind that Allah intends only Godly acts and not ungodly acts.

PHILOSOPHY OF ANTHROPOMORPHISM

Many religions at some point believe, directly or indirectly, in the philosophy of anthropomorphism i.e. God becoming a human. Their contention is that Almighty God is so pure and holy that He is unaware of the hardships, shortcomings and feelings of human beings. In order to set the rules for human beings, He came down to earth as a human. This deceptive logic has fooled countless millions through the ages. Let us now analyze this argument and see if it stands to reason.

The Creator prepares the instruction manual:

Suppose I manufacture a video cassette recorder (VCR). Do I have to become a VCR to know what is good or what is bad for the VCR? What do I do? I write an instruction manual: "In order to watch a video cassette, insert the cassette and press the play button. In order to stop, press the stop button. If you want to fast forward press the FF button. Do not drop it from a height or it will get damaged. Do not immerse it in water or it will get spoilt". I write an instruction manual that lists the various do’s and don’ts for the machine.

Holy Qur’an is the instruction manual for the human being:

Similarly, our Lord and Creator Allah (swt) need not take human form to know what is good or bad for the human being. He chooses to reveal the instruction manual. The last and final instruction manual of the human beings is the Glorious Qur’an. The ‘dos’ and ‘don’ts’ for the human beings are mentioned in the Qur’an.

If you allow me to compare human beings with machines, I would say humans are more complicated than the most complex machines in the world. Even the most advanced computers, which are extremely complex, are pale in comparison to the myriad physical, psychological, genetic and social factors that affect individual and collective human life.

The more advanced the machine, greater is the need for its instruction manual. By the same logic, don’t human beings require an instruction manual by which to govern their own lives?

Allah chooses Messengers:

Allah (swt) need not come down personally for giving the instruction manual. He chooses a man amongst men to deliver the message and communicates with him at a higher level through the medium of revelations. Such chosen men are called messengers and prophets of God.

Some people are ‘blind’ and ‘deaf’:

Despite the absurdity of the philosophy of anthropomorphism, followers of many religions believe in and preach it to others. Is it not an insult to human intelligence and to the Creator who gave us this intelligence? Such people are truly ‘deaf’ and ‘blind’ despite the faculty of hearing and sight given to them by Allah. The Qur’an says:

"Deaf, dumb, and blind,
They will not return (to the path)."
[Al-Qur’an 2:18]

The Bible gives a similar message in the Gospel of Matthew:

"Seeing they see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand."
[The Bible, Matthew 13:13]

A similar message is also given in the Hindu Scriptures in the Rigveda.

"There maybe someone who sees the words and yet indeed does not see them; may be another one who hears these words but indeed does not hear them." 1
[Rigveda 10:71:4]

All these scriptures are telling their readers that though the things are made so clear yet many people divert away from the truth.

Attributes of God:

To Allah belong the most beautiful names:

The Qur’an says:

"Say: Call upon Allah, or
Call upon Rahman:
By whatever name you call
Upon Him, (it is well):
For to Him belong
The Most Beautiful Names."
[Al-Qur’an 17:110]

A similar message regarding the beautiful names of Allah (swt) is repeated in the Qur’an in Surah Al-A’raf (7:180), in Surah Taha (20:cool and in Surah Al-Hashr (59:24).

The Qur’an gives no less than ninety-nine different attributes to Almighty Allah. The Qur’an refers to Allah as Ar-Rahman (Most Gracious), Ar-Raheem (Most Merciful) and Al-Hakeem (All Wise) among many other names. You can call Allah by any name but that name should be beautiful and should not conjure up a mental picture.

Each attribute of God is unique and possessed by Him alone:

Not only does God possess unique attributes, but also each attribute of Almighty God is sufficient to identify Him. I shall clarify this point in detail. Let us take an example of a famous personality, say Neil Armstrong. Neil Armstrong is an astronaut. The attribute of being an astronaut possessed by Neil Armstrong is correct but not unique to Neil Armstrong alone. So when one asks, who is an astronaut? The answer is, there are hundreds of people in the world who are astronauts. Neil Armstrong is an American. The attribute of being American possessed by Neil Armstrong is correct but not sufficient to identify him. So when one asks, who is an American? The answer is, there are millions of people who are American. To identify the person uniquely we must look for a unique attribute possessed by none except that person. For example, Neil Armstrong was the first human to set foot on the moon. So when one asks, who was the first man to set foot on the moon, the answer is only one, i.e. Neil Armstrong. Similarly the attribute of Almighty God should be unique. If I say God is the constructor of buildings, it is possible and true, but it is not unique. Thousands of people can construct a building. But each attribute of Allah is unique and points to none but Allah. For example, God is the creator of the universe. If someone asks who is the creator of the universe, the answer is only one, i.e. Almighty God is the Ultimate Creator. Similarly, following are some of the many unique attributes possessed by none other than the Creator of the universe, Almighty Allah:

"Ar-Raheem", the Most Merciful
"Ar-Rahman", the Most Gracious
"Al-Hakeem", the Most Wise

So when one asks, "Who is ‘Ar-Raheem’, (the Most Merciful)?", there can only be one answer: "Almighty Allah".

http://www.islam101.com/tauheed/conceptofGod.htm
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by onetrack(m): 8:53am On Jun 06, 2015
KellamLeTorneau:
Similarly, following are some of the many unique attributes possessed by none other than the Creator of the universe, Almighty Allah:

"Ar-Raheem", the Most Merciful

So when one asks, "Who is ‘Ar-Raheem’, (the Most Merciful)?", there can only be one answer: "Almighty Allah".


I've always found it amusing that 'Allah' calls himself the Most Merciful in the very first verse of the Quran and then goes on to say countless times how he is going to inflict all kinds of torture on so many human beings. By that definition, I, too, can claim to be Most Merciful.

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Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Nobody: 9:15am On Jun 06, 2015
onetrack:


I've always found it amusing that 'Allah' calls himself the Most Merciful in the very first verse of the Quran and then goes on to say countless times how he is going to inflict all kinds of torture on so many human beings. By that definition, I, too, can claim to be Most Merciful.

1. Allah is most Merciful
The Qur’an says several times that Allah is the most Merciful. In fact all the 114 Surahs i.e. chapters of the Glorious Qur’an except for Surah Taubah chapter 9, begin with the beautiful formula, Bismillah-hir-Rahman-nir-Rahim, which means, "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful".

2. Allah is Forgiving
The Glorious Qur’an mentions in several verses including Surah Nisa, chapter 4 verse 25 and Surah Maidah, chapter 5 verse 74:

"And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."

3. Allah gives severe punishment to the deserving
Allah besides being Merciful and Forgiving is also strict in giving punishment to the deserving. The Qur’an mentions in several verses that Allah will give severe punishment to the unbelievers and rejecters of faith. He will give punishment to all those who disobey Him. Several verses of the Qur’an describe the various types of severe punishment that Allah will give in hell to all those who disobey.

"Those who reject our Signs, we shall soon cast into the Fire; as often as their skins

Are roasted through, we shall change them for fresh skins, that they may taste the penalty: for Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise".
[Al-Qur’an 4:56]

4. Allah is Just
The question is, whether Allah is forgiving or revengeful? An important point to be noted is that Allah besides being Merciful and Forgiving, He also has to give severe punishment to the deserving wicked or evil people, because He is also Just. The Qur’an mentions in Surah Nisa: "Allah is never unjust in the least degree".
[Al-Qur’an 4:40]

It is further mentioned in Surah Al-Ambiya:

"We shall set up scales of justice for the day of Judgement, so that not a soul will be dealt with unjustly in the least. And if there be (no more than) the weight of a mustard seed, we will bring it (to account): and enough are we to take account".
[Al-Qur’an 21:47]

5. Example: Teacher forgives a student who copies in the examination
If during an examination, a student copies and the teacher who supervises in the examination catches the student red-handed, the teacher says that he is very merciful and kind and forgives him and allows him to continue copying. Those students who have worked hard for the examination will not call the teacher merciful and kind but will call him unjust. This merciful act of the teacher will encourage the other students to also copy. If all the teachers are merciful and kind and allow the students to copy then no student will ever study for examinations and all will pass with flying colours by copying. The theoretical results of the examinations will be excellent in which all the students will pass with first class and distinction but practically these students will be a failure in life. The whole purpose of the examination would be defeated.

6. This Life is a Test for the Hereafter
The life in this world is a test for the Hereafter. The Qur’an says in Surah Al Mulk: "He who created Death and Life, that He may try which of you is best in deed; and He is the Exalted in Might, Oft-Forgiving".
[Al-Qur’an 67:2]

7. If Allah forgives all and punishes none, who will obey him?
If Allah (swt) forgives each and every human being and punishes no one, then why should the human beings obey the command of Allah (swt)? I do agree that no one will go to hell, but this world would become hell to live in. If all human beings are going to go to heaven then what is the purpose and use of the human beings to come to this world, this life cannot be called a test for the hereafter.

8. Allah only forgives if a person repents
Allah (swt) only forgives if a person repents. The Qur’an says in Surah Al-Zumar, chapter 39 verse 53-55:

"Say: ‘O my servants who have transgressed against their souls! Despair not of the Mercy of Allah: for Allah forgives all sins for He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."

"Turn ye to your Lord (in repentance) and bow to His (will), before the penalty comes on you - after that ye shall not be helped."

"And follow the best of (the courses) revealed to you from your Lord, before the penalty comes on you - of a sudden, while ye perceive not!"
[Al-Qur’an 39:53-55]

There are four criteria for repentance: First, agree that the act is wrong. Secondly, stop it immediately. Thirdly, never do it again in future. And lastly, compensate for the loss if caused to anyone.
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Nobody: 9:41am On Jun 06, 2015
The absolute monotheism (oneness of God) found in Islam is not found in Any other religion. Christian monotheism concept is tainted by trinity and the false doctrine of attributing a son to God
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Maamin(m): 10:26am On Jun 06, 2015
Op, what is the proper name of Allah(God)?....am tired of attributes!
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by onetrack(m): 10:59am On Jun 06, 2015
KellamLeTorneau:


1. Allah is most Merciful
The Qur’an says several times that Allah is the most Merciful. In fact all the 114 Surahs i.e. chapters of the Glorious Qur’an except for Surah Taubah chapter 9, begin with the beautiful formula, Bismillah-hir-Rahman-nir-Rahim, which means, "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful".

2. Allah is Forgiving
The Glorious Qur’an mentions in several verses including Surah Nisa, chapter 4 verse 25 and Surah Maidah, chapter 5 verse 74:

"And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."

3. Allah gives severe punishment to the deserving
Allah besides being Merciful and Forgiving is also strict in giving punishment to the deserving. The Qur’an mentions in several verses that Allah will give severe punishment to the unbelievers and rejecters of faith. He will give punishment to all those who disobey Him. Several verses of the Qur’an describe the various types of severe punishment that Allah will give in hell to all those who disobey.

"Those who reject our Signs, we shall soon cast into the Fire; as often as their skins

Are roasted through, we shall change them for fresh skins, that they may taste the penalty: for Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise".
[Al-Qur’an 4:56]

4. Allah is Just
The question is, whether Allah is forgiving or revengeful? An important point to be noted is that Allah besides being Merciful and Forgiving, He also has to give severe punishment to the deserving wicked or evil people, because He is also Just. The Qur’an mentions in Surah Nisa: "Allah is never unjust in the least degree".
[Al-Qur’an 4:40]

It is further mentioned in Surah Al-Ambiya:

"We shall set up scales of justice for the day of Judgement, so that not a soul will be dealt with unjustly in the least. And if there be (no more than) the weight of a mustard seed, we will bring it (to account): and enough are we to take account".
[Al-Qur’an 21:47]

5. Example: Teacher forgives a student who copies in the examination
If during an examination, a student copies and the teacher who supervises in the examination catches the student red-handed, the teacher says that he is very merciful and kind and forgives him and allows him to continue copying. Those students who have worked hard for the examination will not call the teacher merciful and kind but will call him unjust. This merciful act of the teacher will encourage the other students to also copy. If all the teachers are merciful and kind and allow the students to copy then no student will ever study for examinations and all will pass with flying colours by copying. The theoretical results of the examinations will be excellent in which all the students will pass with first class and distinction but practically these students will be a failure in life. The whole purpose of the examination would be defeated.

6. This Life is a Test for the Hereafter
The life in this world is a test for the Hereafter. The Qur’an says in Surah Al Mulk: "He who created Death and Life, that He may try which of you is best in deed; and He is the Exalted in Might, Oft-Forgiving".
[Al-Qur’an 67:2]

7. If Allah forgives all and punishes none, who will obey him?
If Allah (swt) forgives each and every human being and punishes no one, then why should the human beings obey the command of Allah (swt)? I do agree that no one will go to hell, but this world would become hell to live in. If all human beings are going to go to heaven then what is the purpose and use of the human beings to come to this world, this life cannot be called a test for the hereafter.

8. Allah only forgives if a person repents
Allah (swt) only forgives if a person repents. The Qur’an says in Surah Al-Zumar, chapter 39 verse 53-55:

"Say: ‘O my servants who have transgressed against their souls! Despair not of the Mercy of Allah: for Allah forgives all sins for He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."

"Turn ye to your Lord (in repentance) and bow to His (will), before the penalty comes on you - after that ye shall not be helped."

"And follow the best of (the courses) revealed to you from your Lord, before the penalty comes on you - of a sudden, while ye perceive not!"
[Al-Qur’an 39:53-55]

There are four criteria for repentance: First, agree that the act is wrong. Secondly, stop it immediately. Thirdly, never do it again in future. And lastly, compensate for the loss if caused to anyone.

What a terrible god! Fortunately he only exists in people's imaginations.
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Nobody: 11:01am On Jun 06, 2015
Maamin:
Op, what is the proper name of Allah(God)?....am tired of attributes!


By what name do we call God?

The Muslims prefer calling the Supreme Creator, Allah, instead of by the English word ‘God’. The Arabic word, ‘Allah’, is pure and unique, unlike the English word ‘God’, which can be played around with.

If you add ‘s’ to the word God, it becomes ‘Gods’, that is the plural of God. Allah is one and singular, there is no plural of Allah. If you add ‘dess’ to the word God, it becomes ‘Goddess’ that is a female God. There is nothing like male Allah or female Allah. Allah has no gender. If you add the word ‘father’ to ‘God’ it becomes ‘God-father’. God-father means someone who is a guardian. There is no word like ‘Allah-Abba’ or ‘Allah-father’. If you add the word ‘mother’ to ‘God’, it becomes ‘God-mother’. There is nothing like ‘Allah-Ammi’, or ‘Allah-mother’ in Islam. Allah is a unique word. If you prefix tin before the word God, it becomes tin-God i.e., fake God. Allah is a unique word, which does not conjure up any mental picture nor can it be played around with. Therefore the Muslims prefer using the Arabic word ‘Allah’ for the Almighty. Sometimes, however, while speaking to the non-Muslims we may have to use the inappropriate word God, for Allah. Since the intended audience of this article is general in nature, consisting of both Muslims as well as non-Muslims, I have used the word God instead of Allah in several places in this article.

Pickthall: He is Allah, the Creator, the Shaper out of naught, the Fashioner. His are the most beautiful names. All that is in the heavens and the earth glorifieth Him, and He is the Mighty, the Wise.
The Noble Quran 59:24
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Nobody: 11:02am On Jun 06, 2015
Islam is a blasphemous religion. angry
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Nobody: 11:05am On Jun 06, 2015
onetrack:


What a terrible god! Fortunately he only exists in people's imaginations.

I get you've been trying to assert you're an atheist, point taken. But please read my thread on atheists if you please.
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Nobody: 11:05am On Jun 06, 2015
Binb:
The absolute monotheism (oneness of God) found in Islam is not found in Any other religion. Christian monotheism concept is tainted by trinity and the false doctrine of attributing a son to God

And Judaism is also tainted by trinity abi? Or did you read anything called trinity in the bible Is it not obvious that your islam is a very poor attempt to copy christianity mixed with mohamed's pagan beliefs?
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Nobody: 11:33am On Jun 06, 2015
Jagoon:
Islam is a blasphemous religion. angry

The true blasphemy is believing or saying God begat a son and that the son is also God.

“Verily, Allah forgives not that partners should be set up with Him, but He forgives except that to whom He wills and whoever sets up partners with Allah in worship, he has indeed invented a tremendous sin.”

They have certainly disbelieved who say that Allah is Christ, the son of Mary. Say, "Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?" And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent."

—Quran sura 5 (Al-Ma'ida), ayah17[35][36]


3:55 Behold! Allah said: “O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of
the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to
those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, and
I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.”
 
4:171 O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but
the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and
His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in
Allah and His messengers. Say not “Trinity”: desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is
one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all
things in the heavens and on earth.
 
Yusuf Ali: O men! Here is a parable set forth! listen to it! Those on whom, besides Allah, ye call, cannot create (even) a fly, if they all met together for the purpose! and if the fly should snatch away anything from them, they would have no power to release it from the fly. Feeble are those who petition and those whom they petition! The Noble Quran 22:73
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Nobody: 11:46am On Jun 06, 2015
Jagoon:


And Judaism is also tainted by trinity abi? Or did you read anything called trinity in the bible Is it not obvious that your islam is a very poor attempt to copy christianity mixed with mohamed's pagan beliefs?

Allah forbid. May we never follow or imitate the fallacy of man. Besides, islam is closer to judaism and not christianity. For christians are the true pagans who worship a one eyed SUN god (Horus) on SUNdays.

Narrated Ibn Umar: Once Allah's Apostle stood amongst the people, glorified and praised Allah as He deserved. Then, mentioning Dajjal, he said, "I warn you against him (i.e. the Dajjal) and there was no prophet but warned his nation against him. No doubt, Noah warned his nation against him but I tell you about him something of which no prophet told his nation before me. You should know that he is one-eyed, and Allah is not one-eyed."

Christianity-Freemasons-Devil.

Birds of the same feather.
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Maamin(m): 12:24pm On Jun 06, 2015
KellamLeTorneau:




Pickthall: He is Allah, the Creator, the Shaper out of naught, the Fashioner. His are the most beautiful names. All that is in the heavens and the earth glorifieth Him, and He is the Mighty, the Wise.
The Noble Quran 59:24

Allah or God is not a name but a title for supreme beings.

My question remain unanswered.
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Nobody: 12:26pm On Jun 06, 2015
Maamin:


Allah or God is not a name but a title for supreme beings.

My question remain unanswered.

And your question is? Be more specific.
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Maamin(m): 12:29pm On Jun 06, 2015
KellamLeTorneau:


Allah forbid. May we never follow or imitate the fallacy of man. Besides, islam is closer to judaism and not christianity. For christians are the true pagans who worship a one eyed SUN god (Horus) on SUNdays.

Narrated Ibn Umar: Once Allah's Apostle stood amongst the people, glorified and praised Allah as He deserved. Then, mentioning Dajjal, he said, "I warn you against him (i.e. the Dajjal) and there was no prophet but warned his nation against him. No doubt, Noah warned his nation against him but I tell you about him something of which no prophet told his nation before me. You should know that he is one-eyed, and Allah is not one-eyed."

Christianity-Freemasons-Devil.

Birds of the same feather.

At least Horus have a name...what is the name of your God?
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Nobody: 12:56pm On Jun 06, 2015
Maamin:


At least Horus have a name...what is the name of your God?

Your question is laughable. God is the superior being and Allah is the arabic word for a superior being. It is the incorruptible meaning of God, Allah can also be called any of his beautiful attributes, the most are are the 99 names prescribed which you can research on your own.

And if you are trying to name God as you name a human then you definitely didn't read the article and you are just being a rebel. The article mentions that whenever one tries to give anthromorphic qualities to god I.e human qualities to god, then that is not God, at least not the true God we serve.

112:4 (Y. Ali) And there is none like unto Him.  

Sahih International
Say, "Call upon Allah or call upon the Most Merciful. Whichever [name] you call - to Him belong the best names." And do not recite [too] loudly in your prayer or [too] quietly but seek between that an [intermediate] way. Quran 17:110

"There is nothing
Whatever like unto Him,
And He is the One
That hears and sees (all things)."
[Al-Qur’an 42:11]

Please read the rest of the article here:

https://www.nairaland.com/2361132/concept-god-islam-part-2
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Maamin(m): 2:10pm On Jun 06, 2015
KellamLeTorneau:


Your question is laughable. God is the superior being and Allah is the arabic word for a superior being. It is the incorruptible meaning of God, Allah can also be called any of his beautiful attributes, the most are are the 99 names prescribed which you can research on your own.

And if you are trying to name God as you name a human then you definitely didn't read the article and you are just being a rebel. The article mentions that whenever one tries to give anthromorphic qualities to god I.e human qualities to god, then that is not God, at least not the true God we serve.

112:4 (Y. Ali) And there is none like unto Him.  

Sahih International
Say, "Call upon Allah or call upon the Most Merciful. Whichever [name] you call - to Him belong the best names." And do not recite [too] loudly in your prayer or [too] quietly but seek between that an [intermediate] way. Quran 17:110

"There is nothing
Whatever like unto Him,
And He is the One
That hears and sees (all things)."
[Al-Qur’an 42:11]

Please read the rest of the article here:

https://www.nairaland.com/2361132/concept-god-islam-part-2

You are the one being laughable here... take for example.

You as a HUMAN BEING have a name by which you are called and identified with...tho there are so many humans over 7billions. how do we know you in particular? Is it by saying there is Human being which is you or by identifying you by your name KellamLeTorneau?

Same thing applies to the word 'God' or Allah in arabic it is just a title. God have a proper name so what is the name of your God?
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Maamin(m): 2:18pm On Jun 06, 2015
KellamLeTorneau:


And your question is? Be more specific.

My question is very clear the Topic of this thread is "Concept Of God In Islam (part 1)"

Now I am asking you what is the name of that God?

Allah is an arabic word for God
God is and English word for Allah

Not a name, now a God has a proper name e.g God = Yahweh
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Nobody: 2:20pm On Jun 06, 2015
Maamin:


You are the one being laughable here... take for example.

You as a[b] HUMAN BEING [/b]have a name by which you are called and identified with...tho there are so many humans over 7billions. how do we know you in particular? Is it by saying there is Human being which is you or by identifying you by your name KellamLeTorneau?

Same thing applies to the word 'God' or Allah in arabic it is just a title. God have a proper name so what is the name of your God?

Lol! You're embarrassing yourself here. Again you bring human being into this. In The islamic concept of God like you would have seen in the article, if you took time to read it, the fact that you expect him to be named like a human being means we are not speaking of the islamic God. Stop trying to use the christian concept of applying anthromorphic or human qualities the God. In other words he's not a god, he is the God, the named gods you speak of have failed to live up to the islamic concept. You can't expect him to be named like a human being or anything else because he is unlike anything else. Lol! But that cracked me up.
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by mujahid1339(m): 2:23pm On Jun 06, 2015
Maamin:


You are the one being laughable here... take for example.

You as a HUMAN BEING have a name by which you are called and identified with...tho there are so many humans over 7billions. how do we know you in particular? Is it by saying there is Human being which is you or by identifying you by your name KellamLeTorneau?

Same thing applies to the word 'God' or Allah in arabic it is just a title. God have a proper name so what is the name of your God?
what are you saying undecided ?
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Maamin(m): 2:32pm On Jun 06, 2015
KellamLeTorneau:


Lol! You're embarrassing yourself here. Again you bring human being into this. In The islamic concept of God like you would have seen in the article, if you took time to read it, the fact that you expect him to be named like a human being means we are not speaking of the islamic God. Stop trying to use the christian concept of applying anthromorphic or human qualities the God. In other words he's not a god, he is the God, the named gods you speak of have failed to live up to the islamic concept. You can't expect him to be named like a human being or anything else because he is unlike anything else. Lol! But that cracked me up.

Stop fooling yourself, I did not ask you to name God I asked you of his name as revealed by him..except he is not in existence he should have a name to separate him/herself from other gods ..what is his name?

Having a name is not restricted to human qualities alone..for if that is the case the words "gracious" "merciful" shouldn't be attributed to him since they are human construct, in fact the word "Allah" will be very very inappropriate to be used for your creator since it has been in use during the pre islamic era... before your religion.
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Maamin(m): 2:33pm On Jun 06, 2015
mujahid1339:
what are you saying undecided ?

Am not speaking arabic..i believe you understand me pretty well enough. undecided
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by mujahid1339(m): 2:41pm On Jun 06, 2015
Maamin:

Am not speaking arabic..i believe you understand me pretty well enough. undecided
what I see you saying is;what is the name of God in God language sad
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Maamin(m): 2:53pm On Jun 06, 2015
mujahid1339:
what I see you saying is;what is the name of God in God language sad

No..stop twisting my word..how comes KellamLeTorneau says human qualities cannot be attributed to Allah but Allah has a language (arabic)? undecided

Arabic letters was written and spoken by men.

Every languages refer to God in their own tongues...but a name is restricted to one particular entity.

In a layman's tongue I ask my question again "what is the name of your Allah(God)?"
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Nobody: 3:00pm On Jun 06, 2015
Maamin:


Stop fooling yourself, I did not ask you to name God I asked you of his name as revealed by him..except he is not in existence he should have a name to separate him/herself from other gods ..what is his name?

Having a name is not restricted to human qualities alone..for if that is the case the words "gracious" "merciful" shouldn't be attributed to him since they are human construct, in fact the word "Allah" will be very very inappropriate to be used for your creator since it has been in use during the pre islamic era... before your religion.

What other gods?

As to your latter claims, read https://www.nairaland.com/2290158/why-muhammads-father-named-abd-allah
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Nobody: 3:03pm On Jun 06, 2015
Maamin:


No..stop twisting my word..how comes KellamLeTorneau says human qualities cannot be attributed to Allah but Allah has a language (arabic)? undecided

Arabic letters was written and spoken by men.

Every languages refer to God in their own tongues...but a name is restricted to one particular entity.

In a layman's tongue I ask my question again "what is the name of your Allah(God)?"

Every language belongs to Allah, he is the creator of all including languages.

Yes every language refer to God in their own tongue, and that is all. Why must he have a name? What sort of r*tarded question is this.
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Maamin(m): 3:06pm On Jun 06, 2015
KellamLeTorneau:


What other gods?

As to your latter claims, read https://www.nairaland.com/2290158/why-muhammads-father-named-abd-allah

I had ask a simple question since the beginning of this thread..and here you are dancing around.

I know that when someone ask you of your name you dont tell them that your name is 'human being' No!

The same way you are telling me God's name is God...in arabic language, that is ridiculous.
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Maamin(m): 3:11pm On Jun 06, 2015
KellamLeTorneau:


Every language belongs to Allah, he is the creator of all including languages.

Yes every language refer to God in their own tongue, and that is all. Why must he have a name? What sort of r*tarded question is this.

It is r*tarded because it is disturbing and an eye opener to a blind and ignorant mind like yours.

But you have been forbidden to ask questions in your religion.

Not even your imams have answers to my question..what a waste of time
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Nobody: 3:16pm On Jun 06, 2015
Maamin:


It is r*tarded because it is disturbing and an eye opener to a blind and ignorant mind like yours.

But you have been forbidden to ask questions in your religion.

Not even your imams have answers to my question..what a waste of time

Just as the article says, some people see God as a human being and as such must have human qualities. Well, our God is not human and he doesn't have the qualities of one, like ip the article says, God doesn't eat or sleep, maybe your god does since he has to be like a human. Again I ask, why must he have a name?
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Nobody: 3:17pm On Jun 06, 2015
Maamin:


I had ask a simple question since the beginning of this thread..and here you are dancing around.

I know that when someone ask you of your name you dont tell them that your name is 'human being' No!

The same way you are telling me God's name is God...in arabic language, that is ridiculous.

Why must he have a name?
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Maamin(m): 3:22pm On Jun 06, 2015
KellamLeTorneau:


Just as the article says, some people see God as a human being and as such must have human qualities. Well, our God is not human and he doesn't have the qualities of one, like ip the article says, God doesn't eat or sleep, maybe your god does since he has to be like a human. Again I ask, why must he have a name?

Why mustn't he have name? undecided

Stop trying to sell a nameless product here.
Re: Concept Of God In Islam (part 1) by Maamin(m): 3:23pm On Jun 06, 2015
KellamLeTorneau:


Why must he have a name?

Admit you dont know what you serve or worship.

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