realGURU:
IT professionals should be creative and not await governtment Job

God bless you for that post

Urine:


We have societies like that in Nigeria, but truth is they have nothing to offer.

Exactly my point

realGURU:
IT professionals should be creative and not await governtment Job

Did you read the post at all? or you did with a mind to just criticize. The OP said most IT professionals are inclined toward self employment and they deserve credit facilities to grow and develop their businesses to which they have already committed much money just like professionals in other endeavours. Nowhere in the write up did the guy solicit or imply reliance on government job but that's what you chose to see and respond to.

You did not offer a counsel or suggestions but only made an attempt to give unwarranted castigation.

AkunneObinna:
Most of us are over worked. The pay sef is not equivalent to the burden and struggle we go through. But really must the government come to our aid before we make it big? We can do something of our own without the government aid, the big guys across hardly had government aid but over here, any little thing we look forward to the government to be the catalyst.

Hmmmnnnn. I really love your post. You've got real wisdom in there. We can't keep blaming the government.

vislabraye:


IT is a wonderful field that has not reached its potential. May be u should consider travelling outside.
I like the field u mentioned. Did you study in Naija ? And what professional certifications do you have in the said field ?

Yeep read electrical /electronic engineering
CompTia A+
CCNA

Op we should not compare Nigeria With other countries abroad. The business operating condition is harsh in Nigeria for any startup or investor to thrive. I still believe that government have an important role in making sure that there is a conducive environment for any business to succeed in Nigeria.

ThatITguru:


Yeep read electrical /electronic engineering
CompTia A+
CCNA

Kk. Nice combo.....

brushesz:


Now this is it. There is what we call Standard. There is a standard in Medical field, Engineering field, Architectural field, Aeronautical field and also the IT field.

The standard in the IT sector is regulated by CPN just like we have COREN in engineering. You have to be a registered IT Professional ie CITP to benefit what other IT professionals are benefiting else you'll be left behind.

Certifications like CCNA, CCNP, CCIE, SQL, NET ADMIN etc are wonderful but they are not enough to place you there.
Be a registered IT professional CITP and you won't have to post this ever again.

Thank me later.

Thanks a lot for your suggestion, will check it out asap how I can do that from here in abuja

nigeria and nigerians hate progress and advancement. crreate an electronic health record application and no one wants to use it, they prefer file and pen. Create anything, no one wants to adopt it. technology adoption rate is low because the people hate progress.

There is no market for IT product/ service consumption because people and companies are okay where they are.

Nothing to do with govt or electricity.

thats just how they are.

Obalende:
nigeria and nigerians hate progress and advancement. crreate an electronic health record application and no one wants to use it, they prefer file and pen. Create anything, no one wants to adopt it. technology adoption rate is low because the people hate progress.

There is no market for IT product/ service consumption because people and companies are okay where they are.

Nothing to do with govt or electricity.

thats just how they are.

Spot on. The only technology embraced is mobile phones and laptops. companies are not investing in backend infrastructures

kishimi8:
ok you talked about startups.. most of the it professional's I've met hardly want to set up a startup ,, you all go get certifications and wait for someone to employ u.. why would I employ someone that learns how to maintain and implement another person's creation ,, but when he is asked to make something original he comes up short ,,,

ok go setup your start up using your own skills.. if you have a good idea apply for youwin.
but stop complaininanf do somethingg.

But like I said, I went into IT to be an entreprenueur, I've hardly applied for an IT job, infact, the last time I applied to a job, after interview, I was told that I was the best but I wouldn't be offered the job cos it would slow me down. The worst part of IT is having to deal with electricity challenges and the slow pace of growth of IT, I have a small clientele so its rather difficult having capital to invest on infrastructure ans take my business to the next level, its so hard getting a loan in Nigeria, I don't have a collateral, I need a loan, not free money, if I were abroad, I would be able to get one, but I wish you would appreciate how difficult it is here in Nigeria

Skywalker5:

Spot on. The only technology embraced is mobile phones and laptops. companies are not investing in backend infrastructures

to make matters worse, even if a company wanted to buy an ehr, due to inferiority complex they wont pick an indeginous vendor because they believe they dont know what they are doing.

They will go and buy from UK, USA or Canada.

In short the industry is held back by mindset issues.

Obalende:
nigeria and nigerians hate progress and advancement. crreate an electronic health record application and no one wants to use it, they prefer file and pen. Create anything, no one wants to adopt it. technology adoption rate is low because the people hate progress.

There is no market for IT product/ service consumption because people and companies are okay where they are.

Nothing to do with govt or electricity.

thats just how they are.

But government policies can help, for instance, in developed countries, buying something online could get you tax reduction than buying at the store, so people shop online and pick up at store to reduce tax, and companies go online to make more sales etc, just an example

greggles:


But government policies can help, for instance, in developed countries, buying something online could get you tax reduction than buying at the store, so people shop online and pick up at store to reduce tax, and companies go online to make more sales etc, just an example

Nigerians are too quick to blame the government. yes government policies can help but its not required and should not be an excuse for lack of success.

deolumike:
Did you read the post at all? or you did with a mind to just criticize. The OP said most IT professionals are inclined toward self employment and they deserve credit facilities to grow and develop their businesses to which they have already committed much money just like professionals in other endeavours. Nowhere in the write up did the guy solicit or imply reliance on government job but that's what you chose to see and respond to.

You did not offer a counsel or suggestions but only made an attempt to give unwarranted castigation.

Thanks, you read my post very well, we just need loans to setup on our own and grow, we can pay back, just some credit facility will do, after spending so much learning IT and practicing it to become self enterprising, you still struggle for years dealing with setting up infrastructure and electricity and other realistic issues, we deserve some attention, I don't really need a job, I just need some support in form of credit. Thanks for the post

horlajide:
Any ERP specialist in here?

we are here bro .. 16 deployments and counting

greggles:


But like I said, I went into IT to be an entreprenueur, I've hardly applied for an IT job, infact, the last time I applied to a job, after interview, I was told that I was the best but I wouldn't be offered the job cos it would slow me down. The worst part of IT is having to deal with electricity challenges and the slow pace of growth of IT, I have a small clientele so its rather difficult having capital to invest on infrastructure ans take my business to the next level, its so hard getting a loan in Nigeria, I don't have a collateral, I need a loan, not free money, if I were abroad, I would be able to get one, but I wish you would appreciate how difficult it is here in Nigeria

true sha . getting money is quite hard .. right now I'm seeking funding for a Netflix like project in kano and kd . using Cassandra clusters but men .. it's quite hard to get investors .. unless they see a clear market ... so sometimes u can start small and scale later...
look at the guy running layer 3 he started small and he's making it ..

Please am into IT management in North Ireland but i want my brother in 9ja to go into DBA so where can he start from in 9ja?

horlajide:
Any ERP specialist in here?

Yes I've implemented ERP systems for a school and department store sometime last year, anything?

Erp sells in Nigeria ,, but the new stuff is NAS and enterprise storage solutions. .


what I think is another issue is we don't learn the relevant stuff here .. we all learn what's in vogue , and that's our problem .. when the world has moved on to new stuff like R, Cassandra, and no sql , many various hadoop implementations , we then pickup what they have discarded ,,,..
guess that's what third world country means ...
late comer ..

greggles:
Before I go ahead let me introduce myself. I am a certified database administrator and a professional website developer. I am a startup business owner with a small clientele but I am looking forward to expand to become bigger in the nearest future, but......

Is it only me feeling this or do other IT Professionals feel the same way? Are we neglecting IT in this country? We are supposed to be the technology drive force of this country but it seems most of us are struggling getting our feet stable on the ground. When I talk about IT Professionals, I mean the core ones who have either certified or undergone a certain degree of training in fields like Database Administration, website and mobile apps development, Programming and software development, systems audit, network administration, hardware maintenance and engineering etc.

I need answers, what is the future of IT in Nigeria? We see entertainment and agriculture growing in the country but I feel IT is completely neglected

It is my understanding that many IT professionals go into the field to be self employed or consultants, so they are entrepreneurs by this measure, but why can't we access loans and startup credit facility to establish our own companies and build on what we already have invested lots of money in? It costs a lot of money to get trained in IT so I think we deserve some credit and empowerment from government

I need answers and suggestions please. Thank You.

Nonsense!

The highlighted is a core reason a creditor should never give anyone with that kind of mentality any credit.

If you are an IT professional that works as a contractor, then it is highly likely you are well paid and should be able to save up to start your own enterprise debt-free.

If not, that means you have not put your investment in an IT area that experiences a shortage of skills or has any value to the business community. The fact anyone can make such a judgement, shows lack of entrepreneurship and, hence, someone you would not want to give credit.

The worst argument for the case of IT professionals asking for some start up capital is that the start up cost for the business and cost of business development is relatively low.

Much of the tools needed to develop a product is at low cost because of the amount of free resources available on the net and in opensource communities. So start up cost should be relatively low.

If you develop a product that is of value to a business or customer, they tend to take it up very easily without much selling because it gives them a commercial advantage or makes their lives easier. So cost of business development is relatively low as you can start earning revenue easily, even if it is at the lower spectrum of the business community.

If you can't do these, why would anyone be giving you credit?

Obalende:


Nigerians are too quick to blame the government. yes government policies can help but its not required and should not be an excuse for lack of success.

Wow you really sound so harsh to startups. Don't forget the co-owner of whatsapp migrated from ukraine to the US as it didn't work out for him over there, he looked for jobs at facebook and google but was turned down, he said he once lived on food stamps, he got the environment he needed and the support and that's how he succeeded. Where its hard to get funding, policies are not favourable, environment is harsh on startups etc, only 2% or less of those who work hard will succeed because that's the much such environment can cater for. The people you see succeeding in Nigeria without help are like the 0.1% that nature have endowed with favour, the rest (2%) are those who the slacking economy will be able to support, I believe government can at least help by providing credit to IT startups the way they're doing for agriculturists. If really growth and success does not depend on support, why then is the government investing on agriculture? Why not leave everyone to succeed on their own just like that? Please understand that we need support to develop our sector of chosen career which is very important in developing this country

greggles:


Wow you really sound so harsh to startups. Don't forget the co-owner of whatsapp migrated from ukraine to the US as it didn't work out for him over there, he looked for jobs at facebook and google but was turned down, he said he once lived on food stamps, he got the environment he needed and the support and that's how he succeeded. Where its hard to get funding, policies are not favourable, environment is harsh on startups etc, only 2% or less of those who work hard will succeed because that's the much such environment can cater for. The people you see succeeding in Nigeria without help are like the 0.1% that nature have endowed with favour, the rest (2%) are those who the slacking economy will be able to support, I believe government can at least help by providing credit to IT startups the way they're doing for agriculturists. If really growth and success does not depend on support, why then is the government investing on agriculture? Why not leave everyone to succeed on their own just like that? Please understand that we need support to develop our sector of chosen career which is very important in developing this country

so the naija start up gets a good environemt, loans and creates the product. how do you deal with the preference given to foreign products?

kishimi8:
Erp sells in Nigeria ,, but the new stuff is NAS and enterprise storage solutions. .


what I think is another issue is we don't learn the relevant stuff here .. we all learn what's in vogue , and that's our problem .. when the world has moved on to new stuff like R, Cassandra, and no sql , many various hadoop implementations , we then pickup what the have discarded ,,,..
guess that's what third world country means ...
late comer ..

Can you please elaborate @ bolded

Obalende:


so the naija start up gets a good environemt, loans and creates the product. how do you deal with the preference given to foreign products?

We can compete with foreign products, just like the webhost companies are competing with foreign webhosts, all we need is investment to bring down our cost of production and service delivery. When it comes to IT, the only major difference would be cost, with the infrastructure in place, it would be a level play ground. Have you forgotten that rice was being heavily imported? Even eggs and chicken, turkey were also being heavily imported before government invested heavily on startups to produce these things massively, which even brought down the cost of these products

horlajide:


Can you please elaborate @ bolded

network based storage solutions .. .. more like a personal or corporate cloud.

. just Google nas
.. distributed storage systems are gaining ground in Nigeria .. , most state governments are moving their governance to electronic based stuff .. like kaduna and kano .. are now deploying some crazy e-govment stuff.. with elrufai at the helm of the project .. school management systems , customised erp for all government ministries, ,, and many other solutions ..

greggles:


We can compete with foreign products, just like the webhost companies are competing with foreign webhosts, all we need is investment to bring down our cost of production and service delivery. When it comes to IT, the only major difference would be cost, with the infrastructure in place, it would be a level play ground. Have you forgotten that rice was being heavily imported? Even eggs and chicken, turkey were also being heavily imported before government invested heavily on startups to produce these things massively, which even brought down the cost of these products

that cost is the issue . big time .. most are not ready to buy the infrastructure ..and frankly I don't blame them .. it's bloody expensive .. if they even buy it will be used old junk f

you can imagine a federal ministry hosting it's web services outside the country .. or not even having any.

.

greggles:


Thanks, you read my post very well, we just need loans to setup on our own and grow, we can pay back, just some credit facility will do, after spending so much learning IT and practicing it to become self enterprising, you still struggle for years dealing with setting up infrastructure and electricity and other realistic issues, we deserve some attention, I don't really need a job, I just need some support in form of credit. Thanks for the post

Credit is not the problem.the problem is companies who don't value IT.

greggles:


We can compete with foreign products, just like the webhost companies are competing with foreign webhosts, all we need is investment to bring down our cost of production and service delivery. When it comes to IT, the only major difference would be cost, with the infrastructure in place, it would be a level play ground. Have you forgotten that rice was being heavily imported? Even eggs and chicken, turkey were also being heavily imported before government invested heavily on startups to produce these things massively, which even brought down the cost of these products

you are right greggles. and then nigerians need a mass healing from inferiority complex and learn to start choosing made in nigeria products.

realGURU:
IT professionals should be creative and not await governtment Job

You wetin u read.do u knw how much 2 take a course on I.T. No talk again or