agaugust:

[s]
SANDF datalinks do not work full spectrum, NOT all equipment is integrated, the plan was to do it stage by stage.

Also, in Sub-Saharan Africa, only Nigeria has been proved to use operational datalink that works 24/7[/s]
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LinkZA is intergrated into platforms across air, land and Sea

From infantry radios, to artillery gun guidance, to MBT's, to Hawks to Gripen to Valour class - all intergrated onto one single system

Nigeria has no such data-link

All you have is a number of individual data-link enabled assets - no system

agaugust:


[s]Nigerian air force is the ISTAR master of Africa, nobody comes close, NOT even Egypt or Algeria.

NAF ISTAR standard is as good as many NATO powers, reason why they could not do what we had not done when the RAF and USAF ISTAR aircraft came to search for Chibok girls, they went away empty handed.

The Nigerian ISTAR force has aircraft with 2014 state of the art technology from USA, Italy, Austria, Germany.

South Africa is 66 years behind us ![/s]
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1. Gripen
2. You havent found the Chibok girls either

Patchesagain:


No, you have some data-link enabled platforms.

You dont have a military wide datalink.

This guy, thinking a data-link enabled platform is the samething as a military geared for net-centric warfare.

You guys are about 20 years behind us.

Nigeria has an extensive operational data link structure. The largest in SSA.

The man in the field - assets in the air - assets at sea - GCS- COBR Facility, all data linked and operational.

South-Africa is at-least 66 years behind Nigeria in the ISTAR and Data link field.

Henry120:


Mumu!

There is always a GCS for collation of data you retarrd. How do you think Data is transferred?

Not for only that.

Henry120:


Nigeria has an extensive operational data link structure. The largest in SSA.

The man in the field - assets in the air - assets at sea - GCS- COBR Facility, all data linked and operational.

South-Africa is at-least 66 years behind Nigeria in the ISTAR and Data link field.

You should stop talking about things you don't know please.

What does the man in the field have?

MikeCZAR:
You should stop talking about things you don't know please.

What does the man in the field have?

The Soldeir carries a portable module. What do you think he carries mumu?

MikeCZAR:
Not for only that.

I don't get?

Henry120:


The Soldeir carries a portable module. What do you think he carries mumu?

Don't talk about things you don't Henry!

Patchesagain:


1. Gripen
2. You havent found the Chibok girls either

The Americans and British couldn't find them either. NAF is equal to NATO in ISTAR.

South African Gripens are known to have only targeting pods for bombing....

# SHOW US SAAF GRIPEN JET RECCE PODS FOR ISTAR

....or else you have no ISTAR capable Gripen, it becomes like F-7 jet using normal radar in ground search mode !

jln115:

Dude!! Who said the argument was only about guided shells? I said naval guns can shoot 120km/100km with Vulcano guided projectiles you said NO naval gun can shoot those ranges, only after I proved you wrong did you change your argument and your post saying you were talking about unguided shells.

I was quoting normal shells that exist in Africa, I was quoting ranges 8 km to 20 km, then you jumped to 120 km with your own quote, but you did not know you were completely off track by bringing in a wrong comparison of a guided shell, I had to educate you....say thank you....ingrate.

The original argument was NOT guns, it was Umkhonto missile range, but your sull brain derailed the argument into guns....fool
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MikeCZAR:
Don't talk about things you don't Henry!

You are drunk.

agaugust:


Nigerian air force is the ISTAR master of Africa, nobody comes close, NOT even Egypt or Algeria.

NAF ISTAR standard is as good as many NATO powers, reason why they could not do what we had not done when the RAF and USAF ISTAR aircraft came to search for Chibok girls, they went away empty handed.

The Nigerian ISTAR force has aircraft with 2014 state of the art technology from USA, Italy, Austria, Germany.

South Africa is 66 years behind us !
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The after effects of drinking palm wine over the limit. You drink it and you will end up vomiting the nonsensical statements as such written above.

Bwahahahaha…

agaugust:


I was quoting normal shells that exist in Africa, I was quoting ranges 8 km to 20 km, then you jumped to 120 km with your own quote, but you did not know you were completely off track by bringing in a wrong comparison of a guided shell, I had to educate you....say thank you....ingrate.

The original argument was NOT guns, it was Umkhonto missile range, but your sull brain derailed the argument into guns....fool
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With unguided shells the Oto Melara 127/64 can reach 60km

Patchesagain:


LinkZA is intergrated into platforms across air, land and Sea

From infantry radios, to artillery gun guidance, to MBT's, to Hawks to Gripen to Valour class - all intergrated onto one single system

Nigeria has no such data-link

All you have is a number of individual data-link enabled assets - no system

Nope, SANDF officer Andrewza told us here that the datalink is being done in phases due to financial constraints.

Show us proof that every aircraft, helicopter, ship, vehicle in SANDF has been connected and integrated into a central datalink system. Not just that they said it in a plan, show us that EVERY existing platform is fully integrated, show us proof now !
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jln115:

With unguided shells the Oto Melara 127/64 can reach 60km

That's still not a normal shell, that's a rocket assisted unguided shell.

Nobody in Africa has Volcano series of shells.

No African navy has rocket shells.

The original argument is about Umkhonto missiles sales and range, if you want to talk about guns and shells that nobody has in Africa, I will not follow you to dreamland.

Learn to debate on topic and argue within context, Olodo
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agaugust:


That's still not a normal shell, that's a rocket assisted unguided shell.

Nobody in Africa has Volcano series of shells.

No African navy has rocket shells
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It doesnt matter if no country in africa has those shells YOU SAID NO NAVAL GUN IN THE WORLD CAN FIRE AT THOSE RANGES.

A TOP GOVERMENT OFFICIAL ADMITTING THAT NIGERIAN TROOPS ARE ILL-EQUIPPED AND POORLY TRAINED.


But a presidential spokesman told the BBC that the
Nigerian army was by its own assessment "ill-equipped
and poorly trained, and even lacks the commitment and
the will to fight".
"If you are not in the kitchen, you will not feel the heat,"
Garba Shehu said, referring to the fact that military

For further reading

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-33052423

jln115:

It doesnt matter if no country in africa has those shells YOU SAID NO NAVAL GUN IN THE WORLD CAN FIRE AT THOSE RANGES.

In the context of a normal shell that we were discussing, yes. No naval gun fires 120 km, common sense should have told you that while I was quoting 8 km to 20 km, your own 120 km must be a different kind of weapon....a PGM you fool, are we talking about PGM launched from guns? No !

That extra range is NOT powered by the naval gun, it's powered by separate rockets inside the shell PGM itself you fool !
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agaugust:


In the context of a normal shell that we were discussing, yes. No naval gun fires 120 km, common sense should have told you that while I was quoting 8 km to 20 km, your own 120 km must be a different kind of weapon....a PGM you fool, are we talking about PGM launched from guns? No !

That extra range is NOT powered by the naval gun, it's powered by separate rockets inside the shell PGM itself you fool !
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Its not a PMG if its not guided mate!! With unguided vulcano shells the 127mm can still reach ranges of 60km+

Henry120:


You are drunk.

Don't talk about things you know nothing of, just makes you look foo.lish.

MikeCZAR:
Don't talk about things you know nothing of, just makes you look foo.lish.

You must be very stup1d, look at the photos of a military wide data-link. Point out were I was amiss?

jln115:

Its not a PMG if its not guided mate!! With unguided vulcano shells the 127mm can still reach ranges of 60km+

60 km is half of the 120 km you were quoting before.

I love the way you surrender.

Say thank you to me for educating you the way your South African brothers have always failed to do
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jln115:

Dude!! Who said the argument was only about guided shells? I said naval guns can shoot 120km/100km with Vulcano guided projectiles you said NO naval gun can shoot those ranges, only after I proved you wrong did you change your argument and your post saying you were talking about unguided shells.

The argument was originally about guided shells, that's why I was quoting 8 km to 20 km range.

Who told you I don't know Volcano shell until you mentioned it? Who?

On this forum in over one year ago early 2014, Patches, Drag_On and myself had argument of NNS Aradu Vs Valour frigate, the Vulcano shells ranges were fully posted and discussed here, we dropped the idea when we all agreed that NO NAVY IN AFRICA has guided shells. You were not on Nairaland then, you just came !

Go see analysis of Volcano shell in this threads archives.

You are the newcomer that is getting free education here.

Then the original argument was about Umkhonto missiles for which you quoted 60 km ranger which NO NAVY has !

I corrected you that it is 15 km for umkhonto missile, you never said thank you, ingrate.

You derailed the missile debate and turned it into a gun argument of confusion that you created.

You keep posting things that are inside laboratory under experiments and you want me to accept it as facts?

If you go to an international public debate and you argue off topic, the microphone will be removed from you so that you will not mislead the whole world with your classic buffoonery.

You will be a good barber with your own hair salon business, I don't see a good accountant in you, try a trade like barbing
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Henry120:


Nigeria has an extensive operational data link structure. The largest in SSA.

The man in the field - assets in the air - assets at sea - GCS- COBR Facility, all data linked and operational.

South-Africa is at-least 66 years behind Nigeria in the ISTAR and Data link field.

1. Nigeria has no systems wide datalink
2. Gripen = ISTAR that can operate in a contested airspace

Let's play a game: list Nigerian assets that are intergrated into your datalink. Then name your datalink

Henry120:


The Soldeir carries a portable module. What do you think he carries mumu?

What is the name of this portable module?

agaugust:


The Americans and British couldn't find them either. NAF is equal to NATO in ISTAR.

South African Gripens are known to have only targeting pods for bombing....

# SHOW US SAAF GRIPEN JET RECCE PODS FOR ISTAR

....or else you have no ISTAR capable Gripen, it becomes like F-7 jet using normal radar in ground search mode !

Gripen has Recce pods and targeting pods

This has been confirmed multiple times

agaugust:


Nope, SANDF officer Andrewza told us here that the datalink is being done in phases due to financial constraints.

Show us proof that every aircraft, helicopter, ship, vehicle in SANDF has been connected and integrated into a central datalink system. Not just that they said it in a plan, show us that EVERY existing platform is fully integrated, show us proof now !
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I will do it once you show us that all your assets are linked

Henry120:


You must be very stup1d, look at the photos of a military wide data-link. Point out were I was amiss?

You were amiss by saying you have our level of intergration

Henry120:


You must be very stup1d, look at the photos of a military wide data-link. Point out were I was amiss?

Stop talking about things you don't know.

Henry120:


Nigeria has an extensive operational data link structure. The largest in SSA.

The man in the field - assets in the air - assets at sea - GCS- COBR Facility, all data linked and operational.

South-Africa is at-least 66 years behind Nigeria in the ISTAR and Data link field.

[size=20]NIGERIA HAS ZERO DATA LINK STRUCTURE. GIVE US THE NAME OF YOUR DATA LINK. ALL THAT WE KNOW IS THAT YOU ARE ILL-EQUIPPED AS CONFIRMED BY YOUR HIGHEST MILITARY COMMAND.[/size]

NIGERIAN SOLDIER CONFESSES NIGERIA'S MILITARY POOR AND ILL- EQUIPPED STATUS.


http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/05/19/nigerian-soldier-says-army-that-would-face-boko-haram-is-ill-equipped-underpaid/