agaugust:


Was Boko Haram desert war theater a maritime battle? NAF used ATR-42 to watch Boko Haram inside their bush toilet and gave their coordinates by datalink to our helicopters and artillery.

Surface search radar = ground + maritime = ATR-42 ISTAR power.

NAF is 66 years ahead of SAAF.

Gripen van perform ISTAR in a contested airspace

Unlike yours

NAF ISTAR = coast guard
SAAF= airforce

agaugust:


Show us the integrated multiple computer systems console of your Super Lynx helicopter used for large scale data processing, battle space command and control......and post how many hours your helicopter will fly....after abandoning the Valour frigate....or your navy warships sail inside desert ?

Odenson , Olodo, South Africa has NO dedicated ISTAR aircraft

Your overhyped country is 66 years behind Nigeria
.

Gripen is 66 years old?

Our brand new Kondor-E is 66 years old?

Such desperation

mzilakazi:


Yet it does not mean SANDF cannot do ISTAR operations. Bwahahaha…

Meanwhile, NAF is 150 years behind SANDF with data link system.

The only battle tested data-link in Africa is Nigerian military top brass sitting in Abuja HQ, and watching live battle in Sambisa forest real-time video images and commanding/controlling a whole war hundreds of kilometers away.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/amosu-how-we-monitored-sambisa-military-operations-from-abuja/208413/

No country in Africa has ever done that in history.

Nigerian data-link works, that's the difference between us and SANDF
.

mzilakazi:
Now that SANDF has operational spy satellite it can perform all that is mentioned here with its thales recce pods and with better extended range.

SIPRI arms database says you have an ordinary surveillance satellite, not spy. Then you have only one, so it sees only one part of the world at a time, it's not on-line real time surveillance like Nigeria that has 3 satellites spread over the earth. RSA is 50 years behind NIG
.

MikeCZAR:
Answer this question first:


1. what is "integrated multiple computer systems console"?

Something South Africa does NOT have.... ATR-42 Surveyor aircraft....ISTAR master of Africa....NAF
.

Patchesagain:


Gripen is 66 years old?

Our brand new Kondor-E is 66 years old?

Such desperation

Your level of tech is 66 years old, SAAF belongs to the stone age when no ELINT-ISTAR existed
.

Patchesagain:


Gripen van perform ISTAR in a contested airspace

Unlike yours

NAF ISTAR = coast guard
SAAF= airforce

Gripen recce pod can only work at medium or low altitude, so enemy anti-aircraft defenses will eat all your Gripens for breakfast

APPLICATIONS

• Air tactical IMINT tasks
• Medium and low level reconnaissance
• Border Patrol, BDA, Foliage Penetration
• Support to Land Forces and SF
• Time sensitive targeting
• Suitable for all fast jet, MUAV and commercial
aircraft

https://www.thalesgroup.com/sites/default/files/asset/document/DJRPc_06_12.pdf

SAAF is 66 years behind NAF
.

agaugust:


The only battle tested data-link in Africa is Nigerian military top brass sitting in Abuja HQ, and watching live battle in Sambisa forest real-time video images and commanding/controlling a whole war hundreds of kilometers away.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/amosu-how-we-monitored-sambisa-military-operations-from-abuja/208413/

No country in Africa has ever done that in history.

Nigerian data-link works, that's the difference between us and SANDF
.

Lol - the battle tested claim is all you have.

All you have is some assets that are linked into some ground stations

SANDF with LinkZA has multiple systems communicating with each other - drones, fighters, artillery, jets, tanks, helicopters, infantry

You dont have that and never will

We are capable of net-centric warfare

You are not

agaugust:


Something South Africa does NOT have.... ATR-42 Surveyor aircraft....ISTAR master of Africa....NAF
.

You have some TV screens in an Aircraft?

agaugust:


Your level of tech is 66 years old, SAAF belongs to the stone age when no ELINT-ISTAR existed
.

So, the Gripen - which can be configured for ISTAR - is 66 years old?

So the Thales ground search radar is 66 years old?

So the Kondor-E is 66 years old?

Patchesagain:


You have some TV screens in an Aircraft?

You have never seen such in South Africa? Yes, Nigeria showed you a mystery
.

Patchesagain:


That is not the distance of its ground search

Proven long ago

What is the ground search radar range of ATR-42 ? Tell us...

agaugust:


Gripen recce pod can only work at medium or low altitude, so enemy anti-aircraft defenses will eat all your Gripens for breakfast

APPLICATIONS

• Air tactical IMINT tasks
• Medium and low level reconnaissance
• Border Patrol, BDA, Foliage Penetration
• Support to Land Forces and SF
• Time sensitive targeting
• Suitable for all fast jet, MUAV and commercial
aircraft

https://www.thalesgroup.com/sites/default/files/asset/document/DJRPc_06_12.pdf

SAAF is 66 years behind NAF
.

And so?

Your ATR-42 cannot operate in a contested air-space at all.

Gripen is a combat jet - it is designed to operate in contested air-space. Operations in Libya prove it.

SAAF ISTAR can operate in contested airspace
Nigerian ISTAR cannot

Proven by the fact that NATO chose the Gripen and not the ATR-42 to perform ISTAR duties in Libya!!!

agaugust:


You have never seen such in South Africa? Yes, Nigeria showed you a mystery
.

So you actually think that this is somehow impressive?

Shows the low standards you Nigerians have

mzilakazi:


Yet it does not mean SANDF cannot do ISTAR operations. Bwahahaha…

No, SAAF has NO ISTAR capability, what you have is ordinary Recce.

F-7 jets carries Recce pod, does that make a jet fighter an ISTAR aircraft? No !

So NAF can call our F-7 jets ISTAR aircraft? Why did we buy ATR-42 and Beechcraft 350ER ?

SAAF Gripen carries the same Recce pod made for Jaguar jets, so NAF too cxan claim our 18 Jaguar jets are ISTAR aircraft?


"Easily integrated onto any air platform, the DJRP is a robust, lightweight, low drag structure with a combat proven pedigree on numerous aircraft types including Jaguar, Tornado, Harrier and Hawk and has been selected by the South African Air Force for Gripen"

https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/nited-kingdom/defence/air-group/isr/digital-joint-reconnaissance-pod

[size=13pt]Recce pods do NOT make ISTAR aircraft, many jet fighters all over the world carry Recce pods and nobody is calling them ISTAR aircraft.....[/size]

SAAF is 66 years behind NAF, your toy Recce pods works on our old 1980s Jaguar jets

.

agaugust:


[s]No, SAAF has NO ISTAR capability, what you have is ordinary Recce.

F-7 jets carries Recce pod, does that make a jet fighter an ISTAR aircraft? No !

So NAF can call our F-7 jets ISTAR aircraft? Why did we buy ATR-42 and Beechcraft 350ER ?

SAAF Gripen carries the same Recce pod made for Jaguar jets, so NAF too cxan claim our 18 Jaguar jets are ISTAR aircraft?


"Easily integrated onto any air platform, the DJRP is a robust, lightweight, low drag structure with a combat proven pedigree on numerous aircraft types including Jaguar, Tornado, Harrier and Hawk and has been selected by the South African Air Force for Gripen"

https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/nited-kingdom/defence/air-group/isr/digital-joint-reconnaissance-pod

[size=13pt]Recce pods do NOT make ISTAR aircraft, manyb jet fighters all over the world carry Recce pods and nobody is calling them ISTAR aircraft.....[/size]

SAAF is 66 years behind NAF, your toy Recce pods works on our old 1980s Jaguar jets[/s][s][/s]

.

Do you need to be reminded what ISTAR is?

Patchesagain:


And so?

Your ATR-42 cannot operate in a contested air-space at all.

Gripen is a combat jet - it is designed to operate in contested air-space. Operations in Libya prove it.

SAAF ISTAR can operate in contested airspace
Nigerian ISTAR cannot

Proven by the fact that NATO chose the Gripen and not the ATR-42 to perform ISTAR duties in Libya!!!

Gripen showed face for about 30 minutes max endurance, Only after NATO did a SEAD on Libyan air defences that were already crippled by years of military embargo.

ATR-42 does not need to enter enemy airspace, it just flies around loitering on Nigerian air base and it's wizard eyes of a radar can see 330 km away !!!!!

SAAF can only dream while NAF displays !
.

Patchesagain:


Do you need to be reminded what ISTAR is?

Something far more than ordinary Recce that is done by Gripen, F-7, Jaguar toys
.

agaugust:


Gripen showed face for about 30 minutes max endurance, Only after NATO did a SEAD on Libyan air defences that were already crippled by years of military embargo.

ATR-42 does not need to enter enemy airspace, it just flies around loitering on Nigerian air base and it's wizard eyes of a radar can see 330 km away !!!!!

SAAF can only dream while NAF displays !
.

Gripen is an ISTAR platform that can operate in a contested airspace.

You dont have a simular platform

End of story.

Also, citation for Gripen 30 min endurance - last time you said that you got humiliated

agaugust:


Something far more than ordinary Recce that is done by Gripen, F-7, Jaguar toys
.

Do you need to be reminded what ISTAR is?

[size=16pt]

Patchesagain:


Gripen is an ISTAR platform that can operate in a contested airspace.

Show us Gripen jet ISTAR pod...not Recce pod, I mean ISTAR pod...show us....Olodo

.[/size]

Patchesagain:


Do you need to be reminded what ISTAR is?

Something South Africa does NOT have....that's what ISTAR is
.

agaugust:
[size=16pt]

Show us Gripen jet ISTAR pod...not Recce pod, I mean ISTAR pod...show us....Olodo

.[/size]

Intelligence, surveillance, target acquisition, and reconnaissance = ISTAR

Done with Gripen with Recon pod and targeting pod.

agaugust:


Something South Africa does NOT have....that's what ISTAR is
.

Intelligence, surveillance, target acquisition, and reconnaissance

Recon Pod = Intelligence, surveilance, reconnaissance

Targeting pod = target aquisition and targetting

Gripen = ISTAR

Deal with it

mzilakazi:


Bwahahahahaha… So what makes them the winners?

Have you been blind and insane?

agaugust:
[size=16pt]

Show us Gripen jet ISTAR pod...not Recce pod, I mean ISTAR pod...show us....Olodo

.[/size]

Surely you don't even know what is an ISTAR? Educate yourself first, that's why you confuse it with tactical data link.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence,_surveillance,_target_acquisition,_and_reconnaissance

agaugust:


No, SAAF has NO ISTAR capability, what you have is ordinary Recce.

F-7 jets carries Recce pod, does that make a jet fighter an ISTAR aircraft? No !

So NAF can call our F-7 jets ISTAR aircraft? Why did we buy ATR-42 and Beechcraft 350ER ?

SAAF Gripen carries the same Recce pod made for Jaguar jets, so NAF too cxan claim our 18 Jaguar jets are ISTAR aircraft?


"Easily integrated onto any air platform, the DJRP is a robust, lightweight, low drag structure with a combat proven pedigree on numerous aircraft types including Jaguar, Tornado, Harrier and Hawk and has been selected by the South African Air Force for Gripen"

https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/nited-kingdom/defence/air-group/isr/digital-joint-reconnaissance-pod

[size=13pt]Recce pods do NOT make ISTAR aircraft, many jet fighters all over the world carry Recce pods and nobody is calling them ISTAR aircraft.....[/size]

SAAF is 66 years behind NAF, your toy Recce pods works on our old 1980s Jaguar jets

.

Only because you are using a plane (ATR-42 surveyor) with built-in recce pods, so that makes you better in ISTAR. The gripen Reece pods are perfectly equipped to do what your ATR-42 does.

A perfect example would be that of a lap top with built-in Bluetooth ™ device and that which would have to use bluetooth™ dongles in order to share data but at the end of the day they achieve the same results. A lap top with built-in camera and the one that would have to use external accessory cameras, etc. Yet, they all achieve same results.

agaugust:


The only battle tested data-link in Africa is Nigerian military top brass sitting in Abuja HQ, and watching live battle in Sambisa forest real-time video images and commanding/controlling a whole war hundreds of kilometers away.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/amosu-how-we-monitored-sambisa-military-operations-from-abuja/208413/

No country in Africa has ever done that in history.

Nigerian data-link works, that's the difference between us and SANDF
.

Data link? apart from ISTAR, which tactical data link do you use? Could it be Link-11, 16 or 22. Tell us exactly what other platforms are connected to your ISTAR,

That's why I told you that you cannot see slight differences between tactical data link and ISTAR. Your F7s Jets, Frigates/OPVs are linked by what system? Can you briefly relate that information to us.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I have searched for NAF integrated tactical data link but all to no avail. It looks like they have partial data link ground station which is only restricted and limited to their ATR-42 Surveyor, maritime patrol/surveillance aircraft.

agaugust:


Something South Africa does NOT have.... ATR-42 Surveyor aircraft....ISTAR master of Africa....NAF
.

What is that?


Nigerians don't know what they are talking about.

And you didn't answer my question.

SAAB offer India to fly gripen E jets.


http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/sweden-offers-gripen-jet-to-india/

agaugust:


The only battle tested data-link in Africa is Nigerian military top brass sitting in Abuja HQ, and watching live battle in Sambisa forest real-time video images and commanding/controlling a whole war hundreds of kilometers away.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/amosu-how-we-monitored-sambisa-military-operations-from-abuja/208413/

No country in Africa has ever done that in history.

Nigerian data-link works, that's the difference between us and SANDF
.

. LMAO!!!! They were watching the sprinting contest for the fastest soldiers to escape BK ( lots of cowards busy running away from fighting )