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Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by BlackKenichi(m): 5:26pm On May 10, 2015 |
pkjag:I believe (well western linguists believe) the word Swahili comes from the Arabic word Sawahil which mean coastal dweller (or something to that effect). Personally I can see the connection: Sawahil -> Sawahili -> Swahili. pkjag: At the bolded part -That's more of an anthropology area of study. However to be fair I do agree that linguists should have a basic level of fluency with any language that they are studying. pkjag:Those are called idioms. pkjag:That's a good thing. Listen I'm not dissing African linguists or studies about African and Africans. All I'm saying is that not all western linguists are bad, flawed etc when it comes to African languages or studies in general. On the contrary many are very good. Remember a long time ago they thought that the Nubian languages weren't Nilo-Saharan but Afro-Asiatic and not indigenous to Africa yet it was a westerner that found otherwise. |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by Nobody: 5:55pm On May 10, 2015 |
BlackKenichi:See sawahil isn't very satisfactory to african linguists, see this is where speaking an african language is beneficial. The swahili initially called themselves Wangozi and spoke Kingozi. There are numerous folklore among the swahili and Mijikenda of Kenya. One of them goes that when the arabs landed in africa around the place where Lamu island is circa 300-700 A.D, they met the local island people whom they asked who lived in those areas. The Wangozi people told them that sisi ni wa siwa hili which means that we are of this island, so the arabs called them wa siwa hili meaning of island this which later became waswahili the prefix wa means of and is also a plural for many nouns. Also the sawahil word doesn't explain where the ki prefix came from, in swahili, it is common to add a suffix in most arabic words, to my knowledge there is no arabic word in swahili that has a prefix to the root. In arabic the swahili language/people is written as [size=13pt]السواحلية[/size] which reads al sawahileeya, the al in arabic is either a definite or indefinite article depending on the sentence structure so it might mean the or a. See no ki anywhere, they don't bother to differentiate the people or the language, both adopt the same form. The sahel/sahil word means desert, Lamu/east african coast is not a desert, the arabic word for island is jazeera. So the arabs might have adopted the word, it doesn't have any connotation with regards to the swahili way of life. These are some of the arguments being made by east african linguists, something which could never have been done by a white man. |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by BlackKenichi(m): 6:15pm On May 10, 2015 |
pkjag:Hmm! Interesting. Never heard of that explanation. |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by Nobody: 6:21pm On May 10, 2015 |
Am getting educated here. Just as a demonstration, I sat among the Pokomo for a few weeks. They were speaking their language which is very, very close to Swahili. It was my first time to hear it and you know what, in a matter of hours, I did not need an interpreter. It's just like the relation between other Bantus sharing the same region like the difference in the Luhya Subtribes or between the Kikuyu and Kamba languages. |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by Nobody: 6:32pm On May 10, 2015 |
BlackKenichi:Yep blame it on western propaganda on african education, i also heard it few years after i cleared highschool after getting drunk on a lot of their misconceptions. See the way the arabs can't say swa- they say sawa-, well sawa means okay in swahili. And in standard arabic (excluding the quran) there are no vowels (except alif, the first letter) indicated in writing (there are only three a, i and u), so you use previously taught pronunciation to identify a word once you see the root, so the root becomes swhl, therefore you can insert any vowels to suit your tongue, since the word doesn't have an arabic origin they used sawahil instead of siwa hili probably because it didn't sound right to them. |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by Nobody: 6:37pm On May 10, 2015 |
muafrika:The Taita and Pokomo are not Mijikenda though their languages are close to swahili, i hear the Giriama in Malindi are the closest, it's like swahili with a funny accent but without the arab words ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by sonzo666: 7:35pm On May 10, 2015 |
BlackKenichi: some basics of bantu linguistics: Muntu/moto=====>bantu/bato mukongo/mokongo===>bakongo muhindi/mohindi====>bahindi muhausa/mohausa===>bahausa I=ki=chi=li=gi and sometimes =e itambala=kitambala=chitambala=litambala...etc..=women headgear chikaya=kikaya=ikaya=likaya= plant leave You use the prefix "isi/esi/osi( plurial asi/basi/agi/besi) mainly to express somebody origin. isikongo/esikongo/igikongo==>somebody of kongo origin isikuyu/igikuyu/esikuyu====>somebody of kuyu origin.To call person a kikuyu doesn't make any sense coz kikuyu is the language spoken by asikuyu/agikuyu(those of kuyu origin);the kikongo is the language spoken by asikongo/agikongo/basikongo/besikongo.Therefore there are no kikuyus in Kenya,there are agikuyu/asikuyu/besikuyu or kuyus in English. etc....etc 1 Like |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by Nobody: 3:48pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
Happy Madaraka day to all Kenyans on Nairaland ![]() ![]() |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by Nobody: 5:21pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
pkjag:Hey, Happy Madaraka day¡¡¡ and to all Kenyans¡ It's the 51st anniversary right? Did Museveni get to talk? I love his anti colonial freestyle speeches with words like "Wabeberu." |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by Nobody: 5:36pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
muafrika:Yes he talked about Al shabaab and the guerilla troops in Uganda and his swahili is actually very good, the South african deputy president was also there, kwani where were you? |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by Nobody: 1:26am On Jun 02, 2015 |
pkjag:Mashambani. |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by Ajuran: 5:15pm On Jun 11, 2015 |
BlackKenichi: She is not mixed with Cushitic. Stop claiming my people |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by BlackKenichi(m): 9:03pm On Jun 11, 2015 |
Ajuran:Tut tut tut. I don't claim Cushitics. Genetics does! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by Ajuran: 10:41pm On Jun 11, 2015 |
![]() BlackKenichi: You are not Cushitic or have Cushitic DNA, no more than a White man, Chinese or Arab. Infact Arabs/North Africans have more Cushitic DNA than Bantus. |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by Nayah(f): 10:56pm On Jun 11, 2015 |
Bantu forever warriors strong people and so proud . I m lucky to be one of them thank God ![]() |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by BlackKenichi(m): 12:17am On Jun 12, 2015 |
Ajuran:I never said I had Cushitic DNA. I said East African Bantus from Kenya, Tanzania, Burundi and Rwanda have cushitic DNA.This has been shown and proven by professional geneticists. Unless you can show otherwise, deal with it. Also MENAs don't have as much Cushitic blood. |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by Nobody: 5:46am On Jun 12, 2015 |
BlackKenichi:Seriously, some of those studies make a lot of assumptions. I know we do not have any cushitic blood in us because we love peace. And we don't like to blow ourselves up. 1 Like |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by Nobody: 5:50am On Jun 12, 2015 |
Nayah:Me too @@ 1 Like |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by BlackKenichi(m): 6:04pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
muafrika:LOL! Many genetic studies done by credible professional geneticists seem to show that many East African Bantu ethnic groups have Cushitic blood! |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by Nobody: 7:10pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
BlackKenichi:And what particular haplogroup would that be. The first humans were in the East African region before dispersal to the rest of Africa and the world. Besides, Cushites only migrated from the North less than 2,000 years ago and found Bantus alredy settled in the region. Somalis displaced the Oromo who were at the time occupying the Southern Ethiopia regions, who inturn responded to the southward push by pushing neighbouring Bantus downwards. Bantus had settled as far East as Shungwaya, currently a coastal point in Southern Somalia and this is considered the most Easterly, and recent dispersal point. My point is, these people were adverse parties, and African tribes did not intermarry in those days, with the exception of the age old practice of conquest where enemies men were killed and their women taken as bounty - Bantus did that a lot. Also, consider the short statured people who were the original East Africans. Nobody seems to consider them and their huge contribution to the current demography of East African populations, Nilotes included. Finally, Bantu looks found in East Africa can be found in Southern Africa, and Central Africa. Cushites are a negligible populace and are not found in Central and Southern African countries. As for the scientists, they seem to limit the number of haplogroup variations that are considered African and more specifically, subsaharan African, while at the same time acknowledging Africa as the origin of Mankind. Is it so strange for the original to have aspects of what mutated out of it? |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by Santi222(m): 10:28pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
Lovely. |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by BlackKenichi(m): 11:21pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
muafrika: Cushitic Mt-DNA L0, L3x, L3a, L4, L5, M1 and U6 has been found in East African Bantu women like the Kikuyu and Tanzanian Bantus. Cushitic Y-DNA E-M215* and T has also been found has been found in East African Bantu men like the Kikuyu and Tanzanian Bantus muafrika:If anything it's the other way round. Cushitic peoples went as far as Southern Tanzania. The Iraqw people are fine example of a surviving relic of South Cushitic people in Tanzania muafrika:No argument from me. muafrika: A common misconception. Not all migrations involve bloodshed. And many migrations did lead to intermixing between the migrants and natives. muafrika:Says who? muafrika:I doubt someone like Nelson Mandela could fit in Central and East African bantu populations. muafrika:That's because the Bantu populations of East Africa have absorbed them genetically. |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by Nobody: 6:10am On Jun 13, 2015 |
BlackKenichi:Tanzania has about 80 differing tribes. Like the rest of African Countries. You can't just say Tanzania Bantu Women. Not even 10% have been genetically mapped. Same with Kenya. The history of the Kikuyu agrees. The Agikuyu assimilated whole two tribes. The Athi, who are believed to have been of origins similar to the Cushite, and Gumba - a hunter gatherer group(says their own authentic history). The Kikuyu have been genetically mapped. And I think only five more out of over 45 Kenya tribes. That is not a sample. EVERY African tribe is unique genetically as tribes were the autonomous nation's of the pre colonial Africa. You ask says who? We have always known our history. We do not depend on foreigners opinions on who we are. All tribes here know their origins, their assimilated tribes and the stories behind all such events. Like I said, a very negligible African population is genetically mapped and using it as a sample is a mistake that will make genetic scientists look very stu.pid in the near future. I doubt someone like Nelson Mandela could fit in Central and East African bantu populations.In what way? You need to visit Nairobi, Daresalam and Kinsasha just to have a feel of how people look like. That's because the Bantu populations of East Africa have absorbed them genetically. The proof that Cushite have always been a small group is with the currently surviving Cushite tribes. The Somali are just about 25 million. And I believe that number includes the Oromo of Kenya and Ethiopia. They just don't increase as fast as Bantus. Mostly because of their nomadic lifestyle. Nomadic behavior should also explain the presence of the Iraqw further south. And also consider the history of the East African plains, which was previously dominated by other tribes like the Masaai. |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by BlackKenichi(m): 3:29pm On Jun 13, 2015 |
muafrika:That's true. However geneticists have genetically mapped a few Tanzanian Bantu groups and results are still the same. Here are 2 studies done on East Africa. Both studies have a genetic samples of different peoples and both of them include Tanzanian and Kenyan bantu peoples like the Kikuyu, Luhya, Taveta, Sukuma, Turu etc. http://ethiohelix..ae/2013/05/another-extensive-thesis-on-east.html http://ethiohelix..ae/2013/01/east-african-mtdna-variation-has.html muafrika:At the bolded - Kinda proving my point. muafrika: Please spare me the "All Bantu ethnic groups look a like" BS. Nelson Mandela had clear Khoisan genes flowing through him. muafrika:Oromos and Somalis are different peoples. muafrika:How do you explain the Mt-DNA and Y-DNA haplogroups found mainly in Cushitic peoples being found amongst Tanzanian Bantus? |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by Nobody: 4:03pm On Jun 13, 2015 |
BlackKenichi: That just proved my point take this list for example; Would you believe that these list comprises mostly of Nilotes and cushites? ![]() Nairobi cannot be a sample. It's a metropolitan area with different tribes. Only the bolded are bantu groups; The Dinka Samples are from Krings etal. (1999) The Sudan and Ethiopia Samples are from Soares et al. (2011) The Tigrai, Amhara, Gurage, Oromo and Yemeni1 Samples are from Kivisild et al. (2004) The Beta Israel Samples are from Beharet al. (2008) The Ethiopian Jewish Samples are from Non et al. (2011) The Somali Samples are from Soares et al. (2011) and Watson et al. (1997) The Daasanach and Nyangatom Samples are from Poloni et al. (2009) The Turkana2 Samples are from Poloni et al. (2009) and Watson et al. (1997) The Nairobi Samples are from Brandstatter et al. (2004) The Kikuyu Samples are from Watson et al. (1997) The Hutu Samples are from Castrì etal. (2009) The Iraqw Samples are from Knight etal. (2003) The Burunge and Turu Samples are from Tishkoff et al. (2007) The Datoga and Sukuma Samples are from Tishkoff et al. (2007) and Knight etal. (2003) All the remaining samples: Dawro Konta, Ongota, Hamer, Rendille, Elmolo, Luo, Maasai, Samburu and Turkana are new and sampled along with this study. |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by BlackKenichi(m): 4:17pm On Jun 13, 2015 |
muafrika: My point still stands. Both of those studies had Tanzanian and Kenyan bantu samples. Btw the Burunge and Datoga aren't Bantu. |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by Nobody: 4:35pm On Jun 13, 2015 |
BlackKenichi:I had suspicions about the two. The three syllable names and prefixes looked Bantu. |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by Ajuran: 11:52am On Jun 14, 2015 |
That fool will go to the ends of the earth to to dig up any connections to Bantus. Lmao. Bantus have as much Cushitic DNA as Whites, Arabs and Asians as all humans are from Africa and have same origins. If we are talking about modern humans, Cushitics are more related to the people they are near Arabs/berbers and have the same language family as. The Somali language has no Bantu words, yet has arabic words. Many of Somali practices that are ancient can be found in Egypt. STOP CLAIMING. |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by Nobody: 12:01pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
Ajuran:What happened to your photos yesterday. I was just about to invite my fellow Bantus to discuss you peculiarly girly face when you caused the topic to be hidden. ![]() Do you have something stuck in your throat? |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by Ajuran: 12:02pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
muafrika: I never posted my photo here. And i never hid any topics |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by BlackKenichi(m): 12:59pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
Ajuran:Yet I bring proof and evidence to back up my claim and you don't. Oh btw Cushitic languages are also related Chadic and Omotic languages as well. Kenyan and Tanzanian bantu peoples like the Kikuyu, Taita, Sukuma, Turu, Mijikenda/Swahili, Kamba, Chagga all have cushitic blood in varying degrees. Deal with it. |
Re: Beautiful and Handsome Bantu People Photos Here! by Ajuran: 3:45am On Jun 15, 2015 |
BlackKenichi: Chadic and Omatic are not Cushitic. As you can see in the map, Ethiopians/Somalis dont all speak Cushitic even though we are related, Some Ethiopians and Eritreans speak Semetic, while groups next to them like the Afar speak Cushitic.
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