Bentleys and Porsches more likely to break down than cheaper family
models

Bentleys and Porsches might have the prestige and the biggest price tags, but they also more likely to break down than other cars, a study shows.

The luxury marques came bottom of a reliability league table of 37 car manufacturers compiled by What Car? and Warranty Direct.

But Honda was judged the most reliable with the Japanese car maker topping the table for the ninth year running.

Japanese makers fill eight of the top ten places with Suzuki and Toyota claiming second and third place. Chevrolet and Mazda share fourth place.

The table analyses the reliability of thousands of cars, from three to eight-years-old, using a formula that into account failure rates, age, mileage and cost of repair.

Overall, the most reliable models were the Honda Jazz and the Mitsubishi Lancer, both of which also had reasonable average repair costs.


Chart: Honda tops the reliability league for ninth year running
The least reliable model was the Audi RS6 which was also the most costly to fix, with an average repair bill of £1,003.

Electrical faults were the most common across all cars, accounting for almost a quarter of visits to garages. Axle and suspension faults were also common, affecting 22% of cars.

Air conditioning was the cause of least concern to motorists, being reported by just 3% of owners.

Jim Holder, What Car? editor, said: “Honda’s success in the reliability index is chiefly down to low failure rates. But, when things do go wrong, the cars are also relatively cheap to fix.

“Reliability is always one of the key attributes buyers look for when considering a used car purchase, so manufacturers that consistently demonstrate durability will always do well with the consumer.”

And David Gerrans of Warranty Direct, said:” “Household budgets continue to be stretched further in the current economic climate; the last thing people need is a car that costs them money they don’t have in unwanted bills.

“It is imperative that consumers research their intended purchases thoroughly before taking the plunge.”

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NL auto mechanics will swarm around and start condemning Honda

ITbomb:
NL auto mechanics will swarm around and start condemning Honda

so Kazeem was right after all,

How is reliably the same as repair cost?

Whoever wrote this piece is an Imbecilee. (No offence to OP)

From his logic changing $20 sensor twice a year for 5 years is the same as changing a $200 alternator ever 5 years

Reliability in engineering is the overall consistency of a product.
A QFD analysis would range the importance of each element a product and rank it.
Based on the ranking scores are given to know the most essential use of any part of a product.
The the important product are given high rank, and least important low rank.
The frequent replacement of lowly ranked element doesn't mean unreliable.

Example would you buy a car with yearly door handle fix or a yearly transmission fix?(assuming they cost the same to fix)
or radio vs Head lights.

icemann:
How is reliably the same as repair cost?

Whoever wrote this piece is an Imbecilee. (No offence to OP)

From his logic changing $20 sensor twice a year for 5 years is the same as changing a $200 alternator ever 5 years

Reliability in engineering is the overall consistency of a product.
A QFD analysis would range the importance of each element a product and rank it.
Based on the ranking scores are given to know the most essential use of any part of a product.
The the important product are given high rank, and least important low rank.
The frequent replacement of lowly ranked element doesn't mean unreliable.

Example would you buy a car with yearly door handle fix or a yearly transmission fix?(assuming they cost the same to fix)
or radio vs Head lights.

ITK spirit in full play mode.

Please I can't see the list well, can anybody tell me where the so called german machines fall.

With all their so called luxury and performance , still they couldn't perform in the first 5 mtcheeww.

Germanfanboiz please your machines will alwayss remain second best in certain parts of the world.

nurey:
Please I can't see the list well, can anybody tell me where the so called german machines fall.

With all their so called luxury and performance , still they couldn't perform in the first 5 mtcheeww.

Germanfanboiz please your machines will alwayss remain second best in certain parts of the world.

We aint bothered about reliability rating bro, we do the talking on the road not on paper.
lol

quite informative

chucky234:
We aint bothered about reliability rating bro, we do the talking on the road not on paper.
lol

While you are still doing the talk talk on road, the japs have stamped their insignia ON ROAD.

nurey:
Please I can't see the list well, can anybody tell me where the so called german machines fall.

With all their so called luxury and performance , still they couldn't perform in the first 5 mtcheeww.

Germanfanboiz please your machines will alwayss remain second best in certain parts of the world.

My friend park well. You and your minivan.

nurey:


While you are still doing the talk talk on road, the japs have stamped their insignia ON ROAD.

By Japs you meant Honda ?

chucky234:
By Japs you meant Honda ?

Nope, I am no car fanatic, I like different cars from different manufacturers. I am not a japlover nor germanfanboy. I just love good quality car.

I was a fan boy until my eye clear, if you look at all my other Comments you will agree. I drove a BMW while growing up and since I wasn't responsible in keeping the car running I shouted German cars are the bomb, until I started spending on cars and found out German cars are over rated, they break down too often, haven't you noticed that japs sells more cars in the world, why is it so if their cars are bad.

But.... Suzuki at number 2??

Ordinary SUZUKI

People have taken night pills by choosing to remain misers, thereby given up on good life, which makes it difficult for majority to now tell what is good life anymore. Definition of quality has long changed for the majority. That's why the world has very few wealthy men and women, also, the gap between the rich and the poor keeps widening.

The mind can be very deceptive if you allow it to control your life. Control your mind and you will receive life in abundance. Rationalizing a boring life doesnt attract a good life. Aim big, appreciate and desire them, and they become your reality.

My current oldest Lion, 1986 Peugeot 505 V6, still run perfectly. The last time I replaced something on that engine was in 2012 and it was the spark plugs. I don't want to go into the rest of my Lions.

Just like every Religious Master or scripture have said, "JUDGE NOT BY APPEARANCES". Then my own advice, as has always been, "DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ!" Your choice.

Ikenna

icemann:
How is reliably the same as repair cost?

Whoever wrote this piece is an Imbecilee. (No offence to OP)

From his logic changing $20 sensor twice a year for 5 years is the same as changing a $200 alternator ever 5 years

Reliability in engineering is the overall consistency of a product.
A QFD analysis would range the importance of each element a product and rank it.
Based on the ranking scores are given to know the most essential use of any part of a product.
The the important product are given high rank, and least important low rank.
The frequent replacement of lowly ranked element doesn't mean unreliable.

Example would you buy a car with yearly door handle fix or a yearly transmission fix?(assuming they cost the same to fix)
or radio vs Head lights.

Let me guess, u know more than the people that acrually made a research and put out this piece. U should make ur own research too and write something rather than ranting here. Repair costs and reliability are 2 different things (even though there is a relationship between the 2). This write up is not about repair costs, according to research, Honda costs more to repair than Suzuki, Chevrolet and even Peugeot but Honda is ranked more reliable. Also Renault costs less to repair but it is way below Toyota in reliability ranking.

A reliable car will most likely take u to ur destination even when there's system failure, while a less reliable car will shut down and refuse to even drive on every little system failure. And a reliable car will most likely costs lesser to fix (though this piece is not solely on repair cost. )

So what is the point of this ur write up?

lungwun:


My friend park well. You and your minivan.

You have been caught RED-HANDED germanfanboy

Imagine the position the merc was given, I have always known my beloved VW will soon be the standard for german cars.

ITbomb:
NL auto mechanics will swarm around and start condemning Honda

No matter how reliable it is, those legs scares in naija roads. There is never a day i dont see one accord or aka "EOD" leg pull on our roads. I'm usually scared and asked myself, what if this were to be on a fast lane on the highway?

Also, their gearbox in naija is a case study. My friend change his 2 years ago for a lot more than 250 thousand naira,barely 3 months he bought the car, after consecutive repairs of about 45 thousand naira each, afterwards he started looking for a buyer and sold it for a w202 kompressor Benz before he had peace of mind..I have never repaired my Benz to sum that amount ever since i bought it 3 years ago.

You could drive a benz a whole year without changing a breakpad. if you obey rules of abuse, you could drive the engine of a benz forever. If you use the right fuel or treat your fuel properly, your benz can remain like new for more than a dacade. So , that research has k leg, certain things like poor maintenance culture should have been factored into it. I dont even give a dame about it, i remain with Benz or Beemer

auhanson:


No matter how reliable it is, those legs scares in naija roads. There is never a day i dont see one accord or aka "EOD" leg pull on our roads. I'm usually scared and asked myself, what if this were to be on a fast lane on the highway?

Also, their gearbox in naija is a case study. My friend change his 2 years ago for a lot more than 250 thousand naira,barely 3 months he bought the car, after consecutive repairs of about 45 thousand naira each, afterwards he started looking for a buyer and sold it for a w202 kompressor Benz before he had peace of mind..I have never repaired my Benz to sum that amount ever since i bought it 3 years ago.

You could drive a benz a whole year without changing a breakpad. if you obey rules of abuse, you could drive the engine of a benz forever. If you use the right fuel or treat your fuel properly, your benz can remain like new for more than a dacade. So , that research has k leg, certain things like poor maintenance culture should have been factored into it. I dont even give a dame about it, i remain with Benz or Beemer

Gbam!

auhanson:


No matter how reliable it is, those legs scares in naija roads. There is never a day i dont see one accord or aka "EOD" leg pull on our roads. I'm usually scared and asked myself, what if this were to be on a fast lane on the highway?

Also, their gearbox in naija is a case study. My friend change his 2 years ago for a lot more than 250 thousand naira,barely 3 months he bought the car, after consecutive repairs of about 45 thousand naira each, afterwards he started looking for a buyer and sold it for a w202 kompressor Benz before he had peace of mind..I have never repaired my Benz to sum that amount ever since i bought it 3 years ago.

You could drive a benz a whole year without changing a breakpad. if you obey rules of abuse, you could drive the engine of a benz forever. If you use the right fuel or treat your fuel properly, your benz can remain like new for more than a dacade. So , that research has k leg, certain things like poor maintenance culture should have been factored into it. I dont even give a dame about it, i remain with Benz or Beemer

Am I the only one who doesn't experience 'leg pulling' in Honda? Been driving EOD for 3 plus years now, no leg pull whatsoever. I know we improvise a lot in this country, china and Korea parts come in handy especially when OEM parts are so expensive and not readily available. Everyone in some point or the other have found substandard parts handy. But please if u are driving a Honda, don't ever buy substandard ball joints or u will be sorry. U can buy Korea or china brake pads, engine mounts, struts, sapentine belts, linkages, etc, but don't ever buy substandard ball joints. Ball joint pulls is never a problem for Honda in other countries except Nigeria and some other African countries, so Honda doesn't even see it as a fault.

This list can't be used to judge reliability in Nigeria here, though I have not seen a broken down suzuki before but I know only 3 common types swift, XL7 and one that looks like the 2nd generation rav4.

Also Honda cannot be put ahead of toyota, cause the camry is more reliable than the accord to a certain degree.

Also the german cars are better than their jap counter parts and reliability like always say is subjective to user, if you don't abuse german cars, they will never disappoint you cause a lot of precision is taken into account before their vehicles are made. A brand new C-class will out live and be more reliable than a brand new camry or Accord of the same year both interior wise and exterior materials with all things being equal.

The only unreliable manufacturers I can pick for now are FORD and the VW.

Just my own opinion sha

nurey:


Also the german cars are better than their jap counter parts and reliability like always say is subjective to user, if you don't abuse german cars, they will never disappoint you cause a lot of precision is taken into account before their vehicles are made. A brand new C-class will out live and be more reliable than a brand new camry or Accord of the same year both interior wise and exterior materials with all things being equal.

The only unreliable manufacturers I can pick for now are FORD and the VW.

Just my own opinion sha

U might be right, but I tend to disagree. A car with a worn out interior and exterior can still take u to ur destination, but a car with faulty electronics might refuse to drive hence u are stuck. A Cadillac's interior is made with the best materials, but even a newbie knows it can refuse to move for no reason while a corresponding Toyota or Honda world hardly get system failure that would make the car undriveable. That is what reliability is all about. Let's not deceive ourselves, the main purpose of a car is the ability to take u from one point to another. Every other thing like the way u are driven, how sporty or how fast it takes u to ur destination, or how much luxury u get while going to ur destination are all secondary. What good is a luxury car when it can't even take u to ur destination?

Germans build their cars with focus on performance and handling, paying little attention to reliability. This is not a Nigerian thing, even in the US those German cars fail a lot and costs a fortune to fix. Even Mercedes themselves expect u to take ur car to the dealership whenever it breaks down and it costs a lot to diagnose and fix.

Research has shown that a Mercedes Benz c class is more likely to visit the repair shop a lot more than a corresponding Honda accord.

Ikenna351:
People have taken night pills by choosing to remain misers, thereby given up on good life, which makes it difficult for majority to now tell what is good life anymore. Definition of quality has long changed for the majority. That's why the world has very few wealthy men and women, also, the gap between the rich and the poor keeps widening.

The mind can be very deceptive if you allow it to control your life. Control your mind and you will receive life in abundance. Rationalizing a boring life doesnt attract a good life. Aim big, appreciate and desire them, and they become your reality.

My current oldest Lion, 1986 Peugeot 505 V6, still run perfectly. The last time I replaced something on that engine was in 2012 and it was the spark plugs. I don't want to go into the rest of my Lions.

Just like every Religious Master or scripture have said, "JUDGE NOT BY APPEARANCES". Then my own advice, as has always been, "DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ!" Your choice.

Ikenna

There's nothing more to be said.

You know a vehicle is reliable when a bad guy says so. I was watching breaking bad a few weeks ago and in one of the scenes, the bad guy asks the secretary of a guy he just rescued if she has a car, she said 'yes'. He asks her if it's reliable to which she replies, 'it's a camry'. He nods his head and admits that's the definition of reliability. Fact is the research didn't lie. Hate jap cars all you want, but they fulfil the main purpose for which they were made most times without leaving you stranded. To the guy that mentioned Honda legs and ball joint issues, the fault is mainly from Nigerian users who ignore the signs or buy substandard parts when they want to replace such a critical item.

abatically:


Am I the only one who doesn't experience 'leg pulling' in Honda? Been driving EOD for 3 plus years now, no leg pull whatsoever. I know we improvise a lot in this country, china and Korea parts come in handy especially when OEM parts are so expensive and not readily available. Everyone in some point or the other have found substandard parts handy. But please if u are driving a Honda, don't ever buy substandard ball joints or u will be sorry. U can buy Korea or china brake pads, engine mounts, struts, sapentine belts, linkages, etc, but don't ever buy substandard ball joints. Ball joint pulls is never a problem for Honda in other countries except Nigeria and some other African countries, so Honda doesn't even see it as a fault.

Excellent post.

So in your opinion the cause of this leg pulling is from using cheap non oem parts.

I knew there has to be a valid reason because the Accord has consistently won Car and Driver award wife the 70s.

CityNG:


Excellent post.

So in your opinion the cause of this leg pulling is from using cheap non oem parts.

I knew there has to be a valid reason because the Accord has consistently won Car and Driver award wife the 70s.

In my opinion yes. U will hardly see a tokunbo Honda's leg pull. But the moment our mechanics work on the suspension and change some parts, then the leg pulling starts.

Hello All,
I was discussing with one of my clients dis morning.. then she mentioned wanting to sell her Suzuki Swift 2008 model for 350k. Its a Nigerian used car.
I got curious to see the car for that price and behold it looks beautiful. Clean exterior and interior with stereo system but no gas on the AC, just blowing heat.
My concerns is the engineering part.... Don't know much about cars.
I asked her reasons for selling....? She says, she just developed a leg problem and its a manual car.
What do u advice I do?

nurey:
This list can't be used to judge reliability in Nigeria here, though I have not seen a broken down suzuki before but I know only 3 common types swift, XL7 and one that looks like the 2nd generation rav4.

Also Honda cannot be put ahead of toyota, cause the camry is more reliable than the accord to a certain degree.

Also the german cars are better than their jap counter parts and reliability like always say is subjective to user, if you don't abuse german cars, they will never disappoint you cause a lot of precision is taken into account before their vehicles are made. A brand new C-class will out live and be more reliable than a brand new camry or Accord of the same year both interior wise and exterior materials with all things being equal.

The only unreliable manufacturers I can pick for now are FORD and the VW.

Just my own opinion sha

Try Volkswagen Golf3 1.8L engine manual .......nurey comeback with your testimony

weyreypey:

Try Volkswagen Golf3 1.8L engine manual .......nurey comeback with your testimony

you want to awaken the sleeping dragon abi. a certain engine variant cannot be used as a yard stick for a big car company like VW so my brother go and rest. before I buy a German ride I must have a toyota as a backup plan

nurey:


you want to awaken the sleeping dragon abi. a certain engine variant cannot be used as a yard stick for a big car company like VW so my brother go and rest. before I buy a German ride I must have a toyota as a backup plan

So much for your neutrality.... Am sure you're deluded enough to see the big daddy Camry as perfectly Reliable too!

weyreypey:

So much for your neutrality.... Am sure you're deluded enough to see the big daddy Camry as perfectly Reliable too!

I have always been neutral, but I have an unbiased love for the VW (paSsat and paSsat cc) it's without doubt that the Camry is one of the most reliable car you can find on Nigerian road.

my brother, let's not be biased you even know the toyota is so reliable it will outlive and outshine any German counter part thrown at it. I thought the honda accord (HALA) was the oldest accord until I saw the 1981-1985 accord still up and strong in the hellish weather of kano city.

think reliability, go japanese, think luxury go german

nurey:


I have always been neutral, but I have an unbiased love for the VW (paSsat and paSsat cc) it's without doubt that the Camry is one of the most reliable car you can find on Nigerian road.

my brother, let's not be biased you even know the toyota is so reliable it will outlive and outshine any German counter part thrown at it. I thought the honda accord (HALA) was the oldest accord until I saw the 1981-1985 accord still up and strong in the hellish weather of kano city.

think reliability, go japanese, think luxury go german

Outliving Germans ke? Don't make me laff o.....Fayose's Benz comes to MInd....vw beetle... Regular 123... Ha don't go dia o...not to mention the 124 that has refused to die