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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 11:11am On Jun 12, 2015 |
lionel4power:I still have a lot to teach you! The systems TDL, radar, FLIR, TV cameras etc enable it to undertake such missions. SA is one of the leading countries in electronic warfare components developments. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:30am On Jun 12, 2015 |
Henry120: That is a crude photoshop So painfully crude i suspect you used microsoft paint |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 12:22pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
MikeCZAR:mumu instead of you to accept that saaf lacks ELINT, ISTAR Capabilities. So if ISTAR is just a mere mission why did the UK and NATO constructed an ISTAR only aircraft? And why do they operat the watchkeeper dedicated istar UAV |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 12:31pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
MikeCZAR:Yep, I know, I just wanted to prove that stupidd called henry wrong 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 12:42pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
lionel4power: South African defence companies designs ELINT and ISTAR equipments. Who the hell are you to ever insinuate that SA lack all that capability. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:51pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Bwahahahaha Humble pie shoved down your throat again ! Do you see any source that says Nigeria has Automatic Grenade Launchers ? No source, but does Nigeria have it? Yes ! Any proof? PHOTO EVIDENCE ! Smart people know what an AGL looks like, same way smart people know what ELINT dome looks like and it's location. NAF ATR-42 Surveyor has ELINT dome, PHOTO EVIDENCE proves it, go kiss a frog tonight, it's Friday MikeCZAR: I already did...MikeZAR eating humble pie for weekend, it's Friday bashing here The British Sentinel dome on top of fuselage is NOT radar, it's ELINT SATCOM hardware dome, confirmed by military sources : "The modifications include a canoe-shaped radome under the forward fuselage to house the radar antenna, a radome on the upper fuselage to house the SATCOM antenna." http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/astor/ Next time, remember that radars for ISTAR aircraft are under fuselage, not above it like AWACS, MikeCAR Olodo The Nigerian ATR-42 upgrade put the dome, ELINT dome on top fuselage like the British and Chinese airforce. South Africa can go try put a dome on their C-47 Dakota and lets see all the 50 year old aluminium aircraft fall into pieces .
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:10pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Yes ! NAF is equal in ISTAR to USAF, RAF, we are world class ! LOL....LOLZ...My sides South Africans don't know about Multi-Mission ISTAR....too advanced for a Soweto brain Actually the British air force is now upgrading her own Sentinel ISTAR aircraft to do maritime patrol like Nigerian air force ATR-42. South Africans know NOTHING about ISTAR, their race and generations have NEVER seen one such aircraft Let me educate you 50 million Southies in the village nation of ANC. You see, powerful countries like Nigeria, China, Britain, etc do buy ISTAR aircraft for land patrol or maritime patrol initially, then later do upgrade and add the other capacity to get the aircraft to be perfect on land and sea operations, it is called MULT-MISSION ISTAR you South African born fooooools ! NAF has upgraded our ATR-42 Maritime to now do perfect land ISTAR plus sea ISTAR, upgrade done in Britain. RAF of Britain is now upgrading their own land ISTAR, the Sentinel, to do maritime ISTAR after Nigeria advanced ahead of them. "The United Kingdom is to begin the process of upgrading its fleet of Raytheon Sentinel R.1 Airborne Stand-Off Radar (ASTOR) surveillance aircraft to conduct maritime operations in mid-2015, the government disclosed on 24 October.The news that work to upgrade the Sentinel R.1's maritime capabilities will soon begin, the RAF is looking to introduce enhanced capabilities to the surveillance aircraft to turn it into a true multi-mission platform." http://www.janes.com/article/45057/uk-to-upgrade-sentinel-r-1s-for-maritime-operations That is why Nigerian ATR-42 became multi-mission ISTAR aircraft perfected for maritime war and land war, that's why NAF wrecked Boko Haram as Nigeria controlled the entire battle-fields the size of Scotland, from the air ! That is how Nigeria will delete the SANDF in battle from 330 km away ! All 50 million South Africans have learnt from a Nigerian free web education classroom again today o ! NAF = USAF =RAF = PLAAF in ISTAR....we play with super powers ! GAME OVER.....See Nigerian air force ISTAR power below . 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 1:24pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
agaugust: C-47 has been doing ELINT when Nigeria was still a bush |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:25pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
agaugust: So you are saying that the ATR42 is just as good as the Bombadier Dash, EC-130H, Boeing OC-135B Open Skies, Boeing RC-135? Ok, citations please, compare the ATR42 to the above in terms of capabilities and numbers How will Nigeria delet SANDF from 330km away when your ATR42 does not have that range and you have no weapons that extend that far? Dude, you are a complete and utter joke... but now i can say that you are a delusional joke 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:26pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
lionel4power: The Southies think any aircraft with radar is an ISTAR aircraft, even if it is a transport helicopter Boeing 747 of KLM airlines has radar, so it is now ISTAR according to South African 33% brain calculations . 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:26pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
agaugust: Do me a favor, draw arrows towards the domes you are referring to. I want this to be on record for all. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 1:27pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
agaugust: Bragging with ISTAR partial air link without any integration of the system on all your platforms. If I were you I would have been ashamed because the whole world see you as a fool to boast that technology without a dedicated tactical data link. NAF ISTAR <US and UK because their system are all integrated in one unit that communicate with all their platforms as a unit. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:27pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
agaugust: Judging by your comments, you dont even know what ISTAR means |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:30pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: NAF Mi-35 Hind E has all those your hardware too, so does that make it an ISTAR platform ? Electronic warfare is NOT same as ISTAR you domingo ! Almost every military jet fighter and helicopter has EW hardware on board. Odenson |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 1:31pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
agaugust: Mi-35 is standard you fool. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:31pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:31pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
agaugust: Does it comply to the definition of ISTAR? If so it does, if not it does not. You seem to be of the opinion that ISTAR is some special snowflake unicorn capability that is so hard to get. In reality its nothing special at all. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 1:36pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
agaugust: Any aircraft integrated with radar and surveillance cams that can effectively communicate with ground stations can do ISTAR. positive. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:03pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
Patchesagain: You have cataract in your eyes ? Patches now blinded by envy and humi.liation, plus plenty of tears ? PHOTO 1 : Nigerian air force PHOTO 2 : British Royal air force Birds of the same feather flock together in the skies .....NAF & RAF Playing In The Big League . 2 Likes
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:36pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
agaugust: You only have one photo of this "dome"? Provide us with a clearer one |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 2:46pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
agaugust: Your master Eeben Barlow also knows that SADC was using ELINT from yesteryears when Nigeria was still a bush. you only started acquiring that capability yesterday but you already want to compete with your master. We don't run to Europe just to that, we have hundred of companies locally that can do that. http://eebenbarlowsmilitaryandsecurityblog..com/2010/07/counter-terrorist-magazine.html?m=1 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:11pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
FighterPilot: You are quoting a blog....find another source or sharaaaap ! . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:14pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
Patchesagain: One single photo evidence of NAF ELINT dome is enough, we don't need twenty. Case proved. Case closed. Game over . 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 5:52pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
lionel4power:Do a bit of research before you engage me. Do you know what ISTAR means? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 5:57pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
agaugust: No, it doesn't. But if wanted any air force can reconfigure them for ISTAR. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 7:07pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
agaugust: why cant you provide a more clear image? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:21pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Why can't you provide one single image/photo of South African navy's many Oto Melara Super Rapid guns that you claim to have? . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 8:03pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
FighterPilot:citation needed for the above trash. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 8:05pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: dumm.y stop equating EW with ISTAR. And citation needed for your claim 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 8:36pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
MikeCZAR:sa zombi.e the concept of ISTAR is still mystical to you thats why you call it a mere mission. Because s.a don't have it. How do you gather intelligence? Do you have consistent surveilance capability? All saaf can manage is mere recon and target acquisition. Show us your intel gathering airborne platform? Show us surveilance airborne platform. S.A ZOMB1ES DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ONLY MOUTH. Look below for DEDICATED ISTAR PLATFORMS ZULU. 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 8:52pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
Did you look properly at what your bush country dont have? Only mouth |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 9:13pm On Jun 12, 2015 |
Saaf gripen doesnt have the endurance of a dedicated platform. A gripen is a multirole aircraft, if you want to do istar you will have to sacrifice things like weapons payload, fuel carriage, higher crew workload. E.t.c plus short time on station. The gripen can only dash in and out of the theather to re fuel or rearm. Look below for istar king of Africa. 2 Likes
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