agaugust:


Citation needed
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Intelligence, surveillance, target acquisition, and reconnaissance

All things that the Kondor-E can do

agaugust:


....simply because SANDF-SAAF have ZERO airborne ISTAR
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Simply because that is fact

Patchesagain:


Are you saying that the Thales radar has a 10km range?

The radar posted by fighterpilot is what I replied too....dummy...learn to write within context of different arguments, a skill no Southie has

agaugust:


The Southie `pilot fighter` is posting man-portable shoulder carried 10 km range radar, foot walking soldiers have become ISTAR aeroplane in South Africa o !
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I told you that you don't know what is ISTAR. Those equipments are used in conjunction with ISTAR to make it complete suit. Unlike your ground forces who will have to rely on their radios for target acquisition. You even did not have simple basic radios. I wonder if you managed to procure them.

agaugust:


Hawk jet CANNOT work alone, needs Gripen jet to be airborne, you need multiple aircraft flying at the same time to do simple recce...LOL.

One single NAF Beechcraft ISTAR is = the whole SAAF aircraft fleet
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Weird that you would say that

Since your Beechraft is not ISTAR

Unless you mean I-STARE because that is all the crew of a VIP transport can do - stare out the window

agaugust:


Citation needed !
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Citation unnecessary

agaugust:


Lynx is naval helicopter on a warship, will it abandon the Valour frigate and go do land warfare ?

Just like your Maritime Patrol aircraft!!

Patchesagain:


Intelligence, surveillance, target acquisition, and reconnaissance

All things that the Kondor-E can do

Satellites are NOT real time 24-7, they move off the target, it cannot stay on on spot and keep track of a moving target for long.

A satellite is in orbit over one area temporarily, it loses tracking of target once it orbits off that longitude coordinate.

ATR-42 will keep track of a fast moving target no matter where the enemy runs to !

You don`t even know how satellites work....failed Southie science education
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agaugust:


The radar posted by fighterpilot is what I replied too....dummy...learn to write within context of different arguments, a skill no Southie has

What is the radar range of the Thales Squire radar?

That is what he is talking about

Patchesagain:


Intelligence, surveillance, target acquisition, and reconnaissance

All things that the Kondor-E can do

Thanks, we also have surveillance satellite which can rubbishes all this so called ISTAR into dust bin.

agaugust:


Satellites are NOT real time 24-7, they move off the target, it cannot stay on on spot and keep track of a moving target for long.

A satellite is in orbit over one area temporarily, it loses tracking of target once it orbits off that longitude coordinate.

ATR-42 will keep track of a fast moving target no matter where the enemy runs to !

You don`t even know how satellites work....failed Southie science education
.

Nowhere in the definition of ISTAR does it stipulate any of the things you are saying.

Definition of ISTAR: Intelligence, surveillance, target acquisition, and reconnaissance

Does the Kondor-E have the capabilities to do this: YES

What you dont realize- ISTAR is not some magical unicorn thing, infact, it is nothing special at all. My fvcking eyeball is an ISTAR asset.

patches689:


Just like your Maritime Patrol aircraft!!

ATR-42 Surveyor is for land and sea ISATR, it does NOT belong to our navy, it belongs to our air force.

It is a land based aircraft in our airport or forward air base on land, ATR-42 is NOT a ship borne helicopter you domingo fool
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agaugust:


ATR-42 Surveyor is for land and sea ISATR, it does NOT belong to our navy, it belongs to our air force.

It is a land based aircraft in our airport or forward air base on land, ATR-42 is NOT a ship borne helicopter you domingo fool
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ATR-42 is Maritime Patrol Aircraft

Lynx belongs to our airforce not our navy

It lives in a hanger at the airbase in cape town, it (being a helicopter and not a ship) can also operate on the land.

You are the domingo fool - you think that the Lynx can only operate at sea?

patches689:


Nowhere in the definition of ISTAR does it stipulate any of the things you are saying.

Definition of ISTAR: Intelligence, surveillance, target acquisition, and reconnaissance

Does the Kondor-E have the capabilities to do this: YES

What you dont realize- ISTAR is not some magical unicorn thing, infact, it is nothing special at all. My fvcking eyeball is an ISTAR asset.

Satellite is ZERO use in target acquisition once the target speeds off that longitude.

Next, if your satellite orbits off an area, it needs 24 hours to come back to the battlefield....your army is blind like a bat for 24 hours

During that time, NAF is busy wasting away the lives of SANDF men and equipment for 24 hours, before your satellite returns to view battlefield, the whole SANDF is dead
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agaugust:


Satellites are NOT real time 24-7, they move off the target, it cannot stay on on spot and keep track of a moving target for long.

A satellite is in orbit over one area temporarily, it loses tracking of target once it orbits off that longitude coordinate.

ATR-42 will keep track of a fast moving target no matter where the enemy runs to !

You don`t even know how satellites work....failed Southie science education
.

Your Maritime Patrol Aircraft will never survey a contested battle ground

agaugust:


Satellite is ZERO use in target acquisition once the target speeds off that longitude.

Next, if your satellite orbits off an area, it needs 24 hours to come back to the battlefield....your army is blind like a bat for 24 hours

During that time, NAF is busy wasting away the lives of SANDF men and equipment for 24 hours, before your satellite returns to view battlefield, the whole SANDF is dead
.

Kondor-E is just one system we have in the stable.

Gripen, Lynx, equipment from Cytoon and Vulture drones fit into the rest.

your ATR-42 cannot operate in a contested airspace.

Regardless:
Kondor-E fits the definition of ISTAR and that is all that is important.

Patchesagain:


Weird that you would say that

Since your Beechraft is not ISTAR

Unless you mean I-STARE because that is all the crew of a VIP transport can do - stare out the window

NAF Beechcraft ISTAR with radar dome .....see this and go hug ESKOM electricity transformer
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agaugust:


Satellite is ZERO use in target acquisition once the target speeds off that longitude.

Next, if your satellite orbits off an area, it needs 24 hours to come back to the battlefield....your army is blind like a bat for 24 hours

During that time, NAF is busy wasting away the lives of SANDF men and equipment for 24 hours, before your satellite returns to view battlefield, the whole SANDF is dead
.

That's untrue.

patches689:


Kondor-E fits the definition of ISTAR and that is all that is important.

Citation needed...

Your monkey model version of Kondo-E fits only Surveillance specs according to SIPRI.

FighterPilot:


That's untrue.

Prove me wrong, prove that satellites do not orbit, they freeze on one same spot for ever...prove your claims, I want to laugh at more South African universities educational standards today...

Patchesagain:


So then the SANDF is civilian because it is run by the Civilian Ministry of Defence?

Ministry of defence workers are civil servants you foooool ! Civilians use Kondor-E Satellite in Russia, it`s built for civilians !
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agaugust:


NAF Beechcraft ISTAR with radar dome .....see this and go hug ESKOM electricity transformer
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Why is it being flown by a VIP squadron?

agaugust:


Citation needed...

Your monkey model version of Kondo-E fits only Surveillance specs according to SIPRI.

Do you know the definition of ISTAR?

Yes?

Then thats your citation.

Patchesagain:


Citation unnecessary

Means you have NO PROOF of all your wild claims....nice surrender by Patchy the Pirate on Sunday
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patches689:



What is the radar range of the Thales Squire radar?

That is what he is talking about

Nope, his weblink was detailing man portable radar with 10 km range. Your problem not mine.

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patches689:


My fvcking eyeball is an ISTAR asset.

Post of the week....Symbol of frustration in South African camp
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patches689:


Lynx belongs to our airforce not our navy

Okay then, show us the ISTAR console inside your Lynx and tell us it`s flight endurance hours, plus altitude that will not let ZSU-23 eat it up
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patches689:


your ATR-42 cannot operate in a contested airspace.

FighterPilot:


Your Maritime Patrol Aircraft will never survey a contested battle ground

It does not need to fly above the battlefield, ATR-42 Surveys the battle from 407 km away you dunce
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patches689:


Why is it being flown by a VIP squadron?

That`s a different Beechcraft you dummy, the call sign numbers and colours are different you one eyed pirate ! I thought you said your eyeball is = ISTAR.....yet you cannot spot the difference in simple aircraft photos .....mumu pirate

This is a most unnecessary argument that Andrewza and I have thrashed for many days on this forum last year, NAF has Beechcraft ISTAR, I won`t entertain this argument again next time.


PHOTO 1 : NAF Beechcraft transport with no belly radar dome

PHOTO 2 : NAF Beechcraft ISTAR with big belly radar dome for ISTAR

PHOTO 3 : One eyed Patches the Southie pirate
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agaugust:




It does not need to fly above the battlefield, ATR-42 Surveys the battle from 407 km away you dunce
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Wahhahaahahahahahaahahahahababababbaab!!!! You killed me. That is a radar range it has nothing about giving real time visuals. The radar searches for threats ahead. I told you that you know nothing about military hardwares. Stop making a fool of yourself.