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Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by anonymous6(f): 1:18pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
gatiano: I think some african americans will go back to Africa but the majority of them won't and they don't have to cause America is their home in the end of the day as well, they sacraficed alot in America and it is not that simple like you said to go back to Africa as if its a whole land mass of the same people, they will have to chose what country and tribal culture they would want to relate to and thats through ancestral DNA which is even debatable with some people. The same goes with white americans, many are able to trace their ancestral homeland but many are a mix of different European ethnicities and many have evolved as Americans, so majority of them are not going any where. Another thing you need to take into account is world populations are growing, natural resources are either decreasing or getting more competitive to get, Global warming is raring its ugly head more and economies are changing quicker then we predicted, that will affect how people migrate from one place to another 4 Likes |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by anonymous6(f): 1:34pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
Lushore1: wow thanks for posting the video, this is interesting Lushore1: True 1 Like |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by Nobody: 3:59pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
USA is more developed than all the African countries... most Black americans would not want to relocate back to Africa - they still see Africa as an under devolped continent. fightforchange1: 1 Like |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by gatiano(m): 7:41pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
Most of you, My Brothers and Sisters always do not view things from their own experiences and many atimes see things with someone else's eye. That is what is called having eyes but can't see. Most of us Nigerians grew up under the system of having Housemaids, Houseboys, House girls and in extreme wicked instances relatives as maids. How did most of our parents feel when these maids decide to leave? I have seen and experience hundreds of families, They feel very sad and bad about it, especially those maids who are very compliant. There are a lot of cases where, people lock up maid(somebody else's children) up in their houses, even happening in uk and us because those news are reported on this forum. Master don't always want to release their maids (this is a confirmed history and experiences within our own community and people). It does not matter how much you pay them, most don't pay and no member of these families care about the future of the maids. Even some broke families even want to keep their maids without paying them. Oprah winfrey and Michael Jordaon are rich house girl and house boy respectively, no arguements to that, so are all the rest except those that have changed their names, those are on a journey of coming back home. About the changing of name, Those of us in Nigeria, when we get these helpmaids from Cotonou, Togo, Niger etc, Don't we change their names to what suit our tongue? The most common which are John and Sunday? Only God can forgive us for that depressing act. We are nice to some but never considered their future. We are NICE! Since our families have been taken away for over 500 years, They have never had 1 month peace, not even one week. 500 YEARS and the sight of rest or peace for them, yet we african say they deserve to stay there till when? after another 500 years? If my aunty should maltreat me unnecessary, My Mother would say "My child, enough is enough come back home". Having said that, What about us at home on the Fatherland? We are home but it does not seem and feel so. We are at home and yet must still have to come back home. Because without arguments, we are also houseboys and housegirls, We have billionaire houseboys and housegirls, I dare you to argue the facts. When our so called billionaire have common cold , where do they run to? You all know the answer to that. Who controls the services of our ports all across Africa? google is your friend. Whoever does control your ports controls what comes in and what moves out. So what have we got, except fiat paper money, and using it to build enormous houses on fertile land? To show and proof that we so called africans have lost all shame, We hustle for visa, then go to seek help from the other Houseboys and house girls both in europe and the americas, we lost it to the extent that we went into south-africa too. I leave the rest to your thoughts. Now that the united state is dead broke with its allied, Do for a second think they would let our people go freely? Definitely NOT. However They would come home, they are already doing so. See with your eyes, and define what you see as your eyes has seen or seeing it. Don't or Quit seeing things with eyes and describing what you saw with another person's definition, it is bad for your health. Talking about population, The Black people of the earth don't consistute nuissance (if you know what it means) to this earth. We are just about 1 billion and 10 million people (i added 2 million extra). Do your counting and I am talking Black Black persons which can also include the Black halfcastes. There will never and was never a time in the history of the earth that We Black Black people would be more than that 1 billion 8 million. Anscestral DNA, Do not be fooled by the scientific grammatics of these light or pink race people. Now that the tides have turned against them, They are looking for an aboringinal people to align with. We are not brothers, we are a completely seperate people, the only connection that can be there is if they intermarry with our "MEN", Then their child would graft back into Black, Once the child is Black, He is no longer their brother or sister, such is how nature and mathematics made it. It takes 7 generations for Black to go white(200 years), Once on the 7th generation, He/she is no longer family, how can? Black has both the dominant and the recessive genes, how would someone with only a recessive gene be our family? You see Lion and skunk friend before? It take only one for light race to return to half Black and after 2 more generations, Totally Black. Climate conditions, You all have eyes, It is extreme, but is it warming or cooling? keep your eyes opened. About space in Africa, Do you people know how big Africa is? How long does it take to travel from lagos to jones-burg? and how long from lagos to london? The Sahara WILL come back to live, We have the remedy. Who dried it in the first place? well, I know must don't still believe the science and tech we possess. All prophets of the past, and the greeks, including Jesus, Where did they get all their learnings from? Kemet or khemet, Do you all know how big it was compare to today, Do you know Mali Empire extended from the atlantic to the mediterranean? from Mali to Morrocco? How else would Musa could have been the wealthest known Man ever lived? yet only in our era? Africa is the place of learning, it was, it will be forever. Initiation means being exposed to some higher knowledge, the learning process of it is called Ritual. We are all coming back HOME, TO FATHERLAND. 2 Likes |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by AAinEqGuinea: 10:28pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
I'd like to continue seeing Africa to find more people like me, network with them, and help them out where I can. I've thought about changing my name but I'm unsure of what to change it to. I question everything so I don't know if I would have accepted a tribal name either even if I were born in Africa. How does my name matter if my name means Holy Sun but I'm the biggest crook ever. I don't see Africa in a vacuum like 99% of people do. I see Jamaica and much of the Caribbeans as "Africa-West", parts of southeastern Asia as "Africa-East", and America's South as "Africa-North" (there are whites there, so "South Africa-North". Who said that the boundaries of Africa had to stop at the Oceans? We know many Blacks took their mainland African cultures with them and still practice an evolved version of their culture today. Aside from cultural and language barriers, all black people act the same in ways I hate and love. I don't need the whole group, I'll just like to carefully pick the ones who I'd like to build with. Most African Americans don't care about Africa... If African Americans are a problem here, they'll be a problem there, a hallmark for a dangerous proportion of black people across the globe. I came up with this, You can take the black man off his land but you can't take the blackness out the man 5 Likes |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by Nobody: 2:01am On Jun 15, 2015 |
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Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by AAinEqGuinea: 2:54am On Jun 15, 2015 |
Sowell25:Many African Americans are NOT in position to judge. I know many may think I'm selling-out "my race" but the only thing I have in common with many of these people is that at same point our ancestors more than likely came over as slaves. Many Blacks remain stuck in slavary, to the point to where many are embracing it, accepting the position at the bottom. It's same fate for too many Africans as well. Let them all reunite somewhere. The issue is bigger and many are afraid to confront such an issue head on.. Blackness brings with it advantages, what if there are evolutionary and possibly psychological disadvantages. Most if not all white people cant go out in sun without frying, thats their flaw (among others). But today they seem to outdo Africa's direct descendants.. Black is black it doesnt matter which side of the Atlantic its on, the only difference in America is there's a limit to how much these crazy white people will tolerate from poor African Americans. Find the worst slum in Lagos and that street could easily be ghetto parts in America or Kingston. White people wont let that happen they'll instead throw public funds at the decay. Its not African Americans in poverty thats the problem, it's being stuck in poverty thinking. As a group, we have money, but smdh lol it goes to the dumbest indulges. Africa has it own way of coping with their black problem. At the end of the day Africa's problems arent different from mine. HoweverI know there's a lot of Black people with immense potential, but the elements of their environment holds them back. If I could get more of the determined and smart Africans here I would, or if I could visit and work with as many as I can. I would like to see more of Africa on my next visit. I've taken a week long trip to Cameroun in 2009 (my first trip out the US) with my old college friend but he has since moved his family here to the States so now he has no reason to return. I'm saving money now to find out where my next trip will be. 3 Likes |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by Glamrock(f): 5:41am On Jun 17, 2015 |
Absolutely! 1 Like |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by Lushore1: 10:54am On Jun 17, 2015 |
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Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by Nobody: 8:35pm On Jun 18, 2015 |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by gatiano(m): 4:15pm On Jun 24, 2015 |
I just read what I would post below, and I am finally convinced that all of them in the americas subcontinent are bound for fatherland, They are all coming back. "THE WATERS TOOK THEM, THE WATERS WOULD BRING THEM BACK". http://themoonlitroad.com/ibo-landing/ Sorry, I could only make the link. |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by gatiano(m): 11:40pm On Jun 25, 2015 |
I stated on this tread about 10 days ago that, regardless of the Black people status especially in the united states and the ones who see white people as friends are houseboys and housegirls. Operah Winfrey is a housegirl, and definitely p-diddy has been shown to his face who he is, For defending his son's honour without harming anybody, He was reminded that He is still an houseboy. Almost A billion dollar Blackman oo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0H7BFVWklA While the one that has impersonate, the Naccp white girl, that claimed that she's black is working all freely gaining a celebrity status. Should they come back or stay there been rubbished? They rubbish one of us, they rubbish all of us, never forget that black people. |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by fightforchange1(f): 6:49pm On Jun 26, 2015 |
bigfrancis21: ooooh I wanna b a part of that organization if you start it ..... pweety please.....!! seriously.. and i think that people should have a formal ceremony for the people that submit that dna like a initiation into the tribe...... |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by tpiadotcom: 6:55pm On Jun 26, 2015 |
It takes 7 generations for Black to go white(200 years), not sure about that. . . . . . . maybe if they stay strictly white and marry only white. . . . . . . even then, why are there so many "coloured" populations around the world? you may be right however. Once on the 7th generation, He/she is no longer family, how can? probably no longer after the third or fourth gen perhaps. Would be regarded as extended, if at all. Or maybe clan. there would still be a risk of interbreeding however.
true I suppose. |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by Ambi25: 8:36pm On Jun 26, 2015 |
that is the right thing to do. It's high time they connect with their root |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by AkanIgbo: 10:22pm On Jun 26, 2015 |
AAinEqGuinea: I don't think that you know the hearts and minds of most African Americans to be making a blanket statement about them not caring about Africa. Every major university in America teaches about Africa and Africans; including Historically Black Universities, of which many African Americans attend. There are 107 Historically Black Universities in the USA and countless other State and private universities all throughout the USA that teaches African Culture and history. If you are saying that most African Americans don't know much about Africa then that is a different statement. It is a true statement, because most African Americans probably don't know much about Africa. Then again most Africans probably don't know much about America and African Americans. So a better statement is that both groups don't know each other; and that is the fault of the Africans, because they are the ones that warred on the ancestors of African Americans and sold them into slavery. And with the exception of Ghana, Benin and a Chieftan in Cameroon; none of the other African nations have even bothered to apologize for the role of their ancestors in the slave trade. http://www.theroot.com/articles/history/2014/06/why_won_t_the_united_states_apologize_for_slavery.html http://exposingbimbia..com/p/related-works.html Many African Americans have and continue to trace their roots through DNA testing. There are a lot of companies in the USA that cater to this, including a company called African Ancestry. That is what that company does; it traces the ancestry of African Americans. http://www.africanancestry.com/assets/img/testimonials/uploads/w06xjgvifbk8cgcs40.pdf So your statements probably need to be revised. On a side note; there is a reason why the modern country of Cameroon made a statement on slavery. DNA testing is showing that a lot of African Americans have roots Cameroon among the Tikar Bamilieke, Bamoun, Fang, Hausa and the Fulani of Cameroon. African Americans have been visiting Cameroon as tourists to see the slave port of Bimbia. Another thing that you might not know is that African Americans have been immigrating to Ghana in record numbers. Those tourists and immigrants are probably why Ghana and eventually Cameroon are likely to have economic growth spurts in the coming years. Other countries to watch for are the two Congos, Angola and Gabon. A lot of African Americans are tracing their roots to those countries too. http://afkinsider.com/29041/african-americans-visiting-moving-ghana-record-numbers/ |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by AAinEqGuinea: 11:25pm On Jun 26, 2015 |
AkanIgbo: You can't somehow tell me not to generalize but then you proceed with an unwarranted generalization yourself @red I won't be long-winded but I'll end with this, too many AA don't care about themselves. Your or my lost of life is only worth a mention ONLY IF a racist killed one of us, but if black ppl killed one of us... NOTHING, just normal day in the hood. No protests, no community sobbin . You can't care about other people, especially those across the globe, until you care about yourselves first. This story is no different than many parts of Nigeria. I read their stories, many Nigerians have had enough of the problems too. Of course there are those more adventurous and accomplished and clearly the shoe of my story doesn't fit them. Please don't get me started, I don't wanna hear how you think all these AA hoes are salvageable. 1 Like |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by AkanIgbo: 4:29pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
AAinEqGuinea: Again you are generalizing about Africans Americans. African Americans obviously care about each other, because they learned that they had to work together to gain their human rights in their own land. They worked together to build their own universities. They worked together to enter into the trades and the professions and to build their own business. Hell it is the African American civil rights struggles that have allowed Africans from the Continent to immigrate to the USA for school and employment; so African Americans do care about people and they do care about their culture, which is why they are outraged at the continued racism against them in the land that their ancestors built. Now if you want to talk about who doesn't care then you don't have to go around the Globe; you don't have to look any further than Sub Saharan continental Africa. The leadership in those countries continue to make the Europeans and the Asians rich, while continuing to keep their own citizens living in poverty. The leadership of those countries still value the Europeans and even the Arabs and now the Chinese over their own Black people. Don't get me started; but after hundreds of years of enslaving their own people for sale to the Europeans and then being enslaved by the Europeans in their own land (call it colonization if makes you feel better), you would think that our people in Africa would have had enough and demand some changes from their greedy ass corrupt so called leadership. But no. A bunch of folks are still too caught up in a bunch of petty tribal crap and they and we as a people fall further and further behind the rest of the World. On a side note; why do Black people around the World always try to find divide in one another; rather than coming together as a people and realizing that the rest of World see us as a bunch of Niggers and just want to exploit us. Just that alone should be reason enough for all of us to come together as a people and work towards and for our own interests. To utilize our own professionals. To build our own business. To rebuild our own ancestral homelands. To embrace and respect one another; but instead of that we are reduced to the Igbos don't like Yorubans. The Nigerians don't like the Ghanans. The Kenyans don't like the Somalis. Nigerians don't like African Americans. News flash: many African Americans have roots in Nigeria, so if Nigerians don't like African Americans that means that Nigerians don't like themselves. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by AAinEqGuinea: 6:12pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
AkanIgbo:You've generalized African Americans to fit some rosy perception. Collective efforts and accomplishments were the hallmarks of AA history but they're no different than any collective group of blacks who have moved backwards from the times you now see as ideal. Coming together doesn't mean we need to suddenly pack up and venture back to Africa. AAs need to come together and address, then fix, their community problems first. I live in a segregated city, and I love that it's segregated. You have criminal minded blacks running around affected by this so-called Willie Lynch syndrome or post slavery disorder which is an attempt to justify them being menaces to their own society. These types of blacks typically are not trying to hear preaching of black history stories. These stories are not golden lifeline needed to feed their family or quench their materialistic appetite. everyone needs to fix yourself first. Racism is a problem, but blacks people are usually their own problem as well (see below). why do Black people around the World always try to find divide in one another? if you're talking about whitey, this is nothing new. Did we forget that they've been like this for the last 100+ years, so I'm done talking about their "supremacy". In my mind they're not supreme because they continuously invent methods to give them an edge. If you're asking why blacky doesn't get along then you're on to something. I've hinted at black man's high emotionalism and insecurities. For starters, we've thoroughly convinced ourselves that a measure of who are is by using social constructs not one black person created or controls. How are we not still slaves simply being rewarded trinkets? All we can do is play along We must be reminded that not every Black man in Montgomery, Ala boycotted or marched with MLK Jr., each with their respective reasons. When these blacks were seen not boycotting the buses they were heavily harassed by King's supporters. Fast forward to today, and whitey is still racist so maybe the antagonists were right all along to go on with their lives during that time. Moral of the story; you can't save everyone, many aren't worth it, and they're not trying to hear the preaching. They're too far gone. 2 Likes |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by Rivertemz: 6:24pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
A bad example of African-Americans migrating to the continent is the History of Liberia. 3 Likes |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by Nobody: 8:06pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
AkanIgbo You are forgetting something important. Africans are not one people. If you think the inter-country rivalry is serious you should check out intertribal and inter clan animosity. You should see what Somali clans are doing to each other. What some tribes within Kenya are doing to each other. You've heard of what the Hutu/Tutsi war did. You should see the Nigeria civil war. The sad thing is that even western ideals like democracy and governance cannot withstand the power that tribalism does wield in Africa. They just become a convenient tool for yet another tribe to rule over another, to eliminate another tribe, time for one tribe to "eat," euphemism for plundering the country's wealth at the expence of the "others" etc. The future of Africa is not in Western Ideals of civilization. African leaders could not be compared with the vampire feudal Lords and Kings of Europe of a similar time e. g during the middle ages, who reigned terror on their people in dreadful ways. We just need to get the basics of our ancestral political, social and economic systems and translate them to our time. We are many "nations". Around 2000 in number the last time I checked. With historically deep reasons for perception of similarly different nations. There is always a deep rooted reason for why a community perceives and relates to another and it won't change just because some irreverent people from a very far away land impose some artificial boundaries disregarding the existence of both the nations and their leaders and telling them they are now brothers, countrymen. This is why democracy will never take root in Africa. It has ignored the reality on the ground, and has ensured the suffering of people that were better off without it. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by gatiano(m): 10:01pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
[size=14pt]Hate crimes shake Brazil's religious melting pot[/size] Rio de Janeiro (AFP) - Brazil's image as a religious melting pot has been shaken in recent weeks by a series of hate crimes, raising alarm over growing intolerance amid a surge in Evangelical Christianity. Brazilians are known for fusing African, European and indigenous beliefs into a diverse array of colorful local traditions. But that syncretism has recently come under fire in a wave of attacks on practitioners of spiritualism and Afro-Brazilian religions. Earlier this month, Gilberto Arruda, a well-known medium popular with the stars, was found murdered, his hands bound and face swollen, at a spiritual center in Rio de Janeiro. Arruda, 73, was known for practicing "spiritual surgery," and claimed to be able to receive the spirit of a World War II German doctor. The tomb of the country's most famous medium, Chico Xavier, was also vandalized in Minas Gerais state. Several days earlier, also in Rio de Janeiro, an 11-year-old girl, Kailane Campos, was hit in the head with a stone when two men assaulted her family on its way home from a Candomble service, an Afro-Brazilian religion whose practitioners dress in white for ceremonies. http://news.yahoo.com/hate-crimes-shake-brazils-religious-melting-pot-105550566.html Now, African can't practice their religion, else they be killed. I thought only christian were to be persecuted in the last days, It is actually the christians that has for thousands of years be doing the persecuting, and accepting homosexualism. |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by AkanIgbo: 4:27am On Jun 28, 2015 |
Rivertemz: A good example of African-Americans migrating to the continent is the History of Ghana. Since independence the country of Ghana has went out and actively sought African Americans to do business with and to immigrate to Ghana. WEB Dubois immigrated to Ghana. He was one of America's great Civil Rights leaders. African Americans have been visiting and immigrating to Ghana for a very long time. 1 Like |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by AkanIgbo: 4:30am On Jun 28, 2015 |
muafrika: I understand what you are saying, but people in other countries are from different ethnic groups too; but they learn to put their dislikes for each other behind them in order to advance as a group. And advancement as a group usually means taking advantage of Black people, who for whatever reason will never come together even when we are being enslaved and murdered. 1 Like |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by semitunde: 1:25pm On Jun 28, 2015 |
bigfrancis21: @your last paragraph, isn't that reason why we have Liberia and Sierra Leone? |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by Rivertemz: 6:28pm On Jun 28, 2015 |
AkanIgbo:I know that and that's great, but you must acknowledge the damage it had caused over the past two centuries in Liberia. African Americans have to literally change their mentality to contribute any positivity if they choose to migrate to an African country. If its worth the commitment or not. If they individually choose to migrate, then its perfectly fine, WEB Dubois is a perfect example. But its not a primary result compared to the mass migration of African Americans that migrated to Liberia and basically f****d up the social and political atmosphere of that country. 1 Like |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by barwaaqo: 11:14pm On Jun 28, 2015 |
I want to go to Senegal or Botswana. I can't wait to make the move I'm SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ready to leave this place behind. I plan on working to help the environment once I'm there maybe starting some planting and breeding programs. Promoting indigenous 'religion' and contemporary african fashion are other interest I have, there also needs to be more of an african influence on the architecture, the homes and buildings should reflect they are actually in AFRICA. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by bigfrancis21: 11:28pm On Jun 28, 2015 |
semitunde: Yes, but it is still not enough. The AA-descended peoples of Sierra Leone are not a majority of the population of the country. 1 Like |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by Rivertemz: 11:30pm On Jun 28, 2015 |
barwaaqo:I really like how you think, especially when you mentioned more african influence in architecture. That's a thought that has crossed my mind. but please before you do plan on moving, think wisely about the economic advantage you could benefit from and help improve in a specific country. first of all, what intrigues you about senegal or botswana, two very different regions. Im not surprised you didn't say Nigeria, even if it was a tourist attraction, it's a competitive place to make a type of living, Nigerians are very sharp and decisive, it's alot harder to make wealth in Nigeria, because everyone else is making money and hustling fast compared to black people in America. We don't play games in Nigeria. Do realize you would either be starting from bottom up or have at least several connections with wealthy people in the places you're interested in. |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by tsdarkside(m): 9:31am On Jul 06, 2015 |
bigfrancis21: nooo....you shall integrate with us....welcome back..... |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by tsdarkside(m): 9:34am On Jul 06, 2015 |
Udmaster: true word..i think its better they stay in america,and strike a deal with the native americans.....then the native-americans and africa will be one.... 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Afro American Migration To The Motherland by tsdarkside(m): 9:36am On Jul 06, 2015 |
gatiano: word,gbamu!!! 1 Like |
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