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Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by TIMEISWISDOM(m): 7:24pm On May 11, 2015
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Wsdm:
I am yet to come to terms on why the other part of the country will not allow these people to simply go away and form their 'Isreal' in Africa. Each time they have an opportunity the maim the North and destroy its essence- a study case is the proxy war on Boko haram where Ihejirika led the army to kill General Shuwa, destroyed the largest cattle market in Africa(Potiskum), destroyed the largest fishery market in Africa(Bama) and thousands of innocent civillians all in the name of fighting boko haram. I have started telling my Northern friends that if the present elite refuses to devide this country, we shall do that during our time. Buhari should just stablise the Northern economy and let us seperate. If the Northern elites did not seperate this country at the apropriate time;one day they will slip into power like GEJ and also look for an opportunity to destroy any development we have achieved. Every body in the North seems to be in total darkness about boko haram. So is not a rocket science that someone is truly behind it- and who could that be order than the people in power who have shown such desdain to the North. They have done that before, did it now and shall be happy to do it again. Just imagine the amount of destruction that happened to the North and all these people could do is to blame the North for salvating themselves by voting out the 'plague'. The seperation I shall scheme for as long as i live. Proudly Arewa.
[/s]Wake up Bro you are Hallucinating

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Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by kabo(m): 8:25am On Jun 15, 2015
undecided
Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by Nobody: 8:38am On Jun 15, 2015
Nigeria is a trap
Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by aminaadamu(f): 9:17am On Jun 15, 2015
grin
Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by Nobody: 9:23am On Jun 15, 2015
wadetaw202:


If Igbo's were not selfish and self centered to kill sadauna of sokoto and other northerners to pave way for January 1966 coup, all these wouldn't have happened. The very selfish demonic plans of igbos in January sowed the seed for northern violence against Igbo's. Before the nzeogwi-ironsi coup, there was nothing like violence against Igbo's and Nigeria was also at peace. Nzeogwu and co's decision to stage a coup sowed the seed for tribalism and ethnical violence in Nigeria.


Igbos did not kill Sarduana. Nigerian army officers did.
The army entered the scene because of wide spread political violence.
Have you heard about "operation wetie"?

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Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by Volksfuhrer(m): 10:54am On Jun 15, 2015
Op, do some soul searching and critical thinking. Both sides were equality guilty of the bloodletting. The Civil War was unfortunate, but none of the parties involved in every incident that led to the war was innocent!

The first coup was no doubt a blunder, not because it "failed" as some would have you believe! It was a colossal blunder because it eventually became an NCNC coup, instead of a normal military insurrection. The NPC group saw through it, and the rest is now history.

The military was very well politicized, unbeknown to the few true professionals amongst its rank and file like the Nzeogwus. Ifeajuna on the other hand was a keen NCNC supporter; so was Ironsi, though he wasn't complicit in the plot but benefitted immensely from the largesse of the NCNC all the same!

Nzeogwu and others who were not part of the NCNC clan thought they were partaking in a patriotic duty, not knowing they were being used by ifeajuna who masterminded the putsch.

And the results? Every high-ranking military officer sympathetic to the NPC group was killed. Every high ranking politician sympathetic to the NPC alliance was also killed. Nzeogwu fumed at this betrayal by his fellow conspirators who took charge in the south and labelled them tribalists! But by then it was too late, the wind had already been sown.

Now you moan that the British supported the FG. To whom did you expect the British should've lent support? To Biafra? You must be joking.

Get this, the British installed the Northern Oligarchs to preserve British interest in Nigeria. And if you must know, they also advised the North not to secede when they had their revenge coup, because of the newfound oil in the Niger Delta. Besides, the British at that time had become disenchanted with the group that decimated the political heirs to their erstwhile colony!

I repeat, the war was unfortunate! And this country would never heal from it if we continue to point accusing fingers on the North alone. Yes, the North committed humongous atrocities, but the East had their fair share of mass killings too, albeit on a smaller scale, of non-indigenes resident in the East just before the war. Perhaps, if the non-indigenes had been large enough, the pogrom in the east would have matched its northern counterpart. Morally speaking, both sides were simply guilty of genocide!

My apologies to those who find this post offensive, but the truth must be told without embellishment.

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Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by SonOfEl(m): 1:34pm On Jun 15, 2015
wadetaw202:


Don't try to make excuses for selfish, self-centered and greedy outlooks of nzeogwu, ironsi et al. They shouldn't have been greedy in the first place. If they didn't do what they did, Nigeria would have been a peaceful country by now and maybe no Yoruba would have raised any eyebrow if igbos win elections in Lagos state. But that singular act by nzeogwu, ironsi and later ojukwu has raised suspicion about igbos and their motives.

young man I believe your history files are rusty. Google up pre independence attacks on Igbo's in northern Nigeria. 1953 case is a strong instance.
Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by anulaxad(m): 1:42pm On Jun 15, 2015
vanunu:
Nigeria is a criminal nation, while they allowed northern cameroon to secede, they killed 3million igbos for attempting to secede. Murderers.
Why?
'Northern' you mean western Cameroon of which was never really part of our country but a German colony. They voted peacefully in small scale referendum to decide to join eastern Cameroon instead of Nigeria after world war 2.
Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by SonOfEl(m): 1:43pm On Jun 15, 2015
Volksfuhrer:
Op, do some soul searching and critical thinking. Both sides were equality guilty of the bloodletting. The Civil War was unfortunate, but none of the parties involved in every incident that led to the war was innocent!

The first coup was no doubt a blunder, not because it "failed" as some would have you believe! It was a colossal blunder because it eventually became an NCNC coup, instead of a normal military insurrection. The NPC group saw through it, and the rest is now history.

The military was very well politicized, unbeknown to the few true professionals amongst its rank and file like the Nzeogwus. Ifeajuna on the other hand was a keen NCNC supporter; so was Ironsi, though he wasn't complicit in the plot but benefitted immense from the largesse of the NCNC all the same!

Nzeogwu and others who were not part of the NCNC clan thought they were partaking in a patriotic duty, not knowing they were being used by ifeajuna who masterminded the putsch.

And the results? Every high-ranking military officer sympathetic to the NPC group was killed. Every high ranking politician sympathetic to the NPC alliance was also killed. Nzeogwu fumed at the betrayal of his fellow conspirators who took charge in the south and labelled them tribalists! But by then it was too late, the wind had already been sown.

Now you moan that the British supported the FG. To whom did you expect the British should've lent support? To Biafra? You must be joking.

Get this, the British installed the Northern Oligarchs to preserve British interest in Nigeria. And if you must know, they also advised the North not to secede when they had their revenge coup, because of the newfound oil in the Niger Delta. Besides, the British at that time had become disenchanted with the group that decimated the political heirs to their erstwhile colony!

I repeat, the war was unfortunate! And this country would never heal from it if we continue to point accusing fingers on the North alone. Yes, the North committed humongous atrocities, but the East had their fair share of mass killings too, albeit on a smaller scale, of non-indigenes resident in the East just before the war. Perhaps, if the non-indigenes had been large enough, the pogrom in the east would have matched its northern counterpart. Morally speaking, both sides were simply guilty of genocide!

My apologies to those who find this post offensive, but the truth must be told without embellishment.






who made you custodian of truth? do not speak on assumption please. unbiased historians especially from foreign inks have proven the complicity of Britain and northern Nigeria to control the nation. there was no case of any genocide from the Igbos to ANY tribe in Nigeria in any scale. so take correction, and stop trying to conceal your biase.

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Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by Volksfuhrer(m): 4:11pm On Jun 15, 2015
SonOfEl:


who made you custodian of truth? do not speak on assumption please. unbiased historians especially from foreign inks have proven the complicity of Britain and northern Nigeria to control the nation. there was no case of any genocide from the Igbos to ANY tribe in Nigeria in any scale. so take correction, and stop trying to conceal your biase.


Did you read my post at all? Where did I say the British were not complicit?

Volksfuhrer:

Get this, the British installed the Northern Oligarchs to preserve British interest in Nigeria. And if you must know, they also advised the North not to secede when they had their revenge coup, because of the newfound oil in the Niger Delta. Besides, the British at that time had become disenchanted with the group that decimated the political heirs to their erstwhile colony!

When you said Igbos committed no atrocities, I could only wonder at the level of propaganda you've been stuffed with.

If you are not ready to face the truth, I can't help you. Revelations of some of the atrocities that went on in the East came up at the Oputa Panel. Yes, they were not as great as the northern version, but they were mass killings all the same.

I would advise you to read Azikiwe's The Origin of The Civil War. He was honest enough to give account of the pogrom orchestrated against Northerners resident in the East, between August and September 1966 about a year before the war. But the massacre in the North was between September and October 1966. You do the math. Both sides were equally guilty!
Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by SonOfEl(m): 5:19pm On Jun 15, 2015
Volksfuhrer:


Did you read my post at all? Where did I say the British were not complicit?



When you said Igbos committed no atrocities, I could only wonder at the level of propaganda you've been stuffed with.

If you are not ready to face the truth, I can't help you. Revelations of some of the atrocities that went on in the East came up in the Oputa Panel. Yes, they were not as great as the northern version, but they were mass killings all the same.

I would advise you to read Azikiwe's The Origin of The Civil War. He was honest enough to give account of the pogrom orchestrated against Northerners resident in the East, between August and September 1966 about a year before the war. But the massacre in the North was between September and October 1966. You do the math. Both sides were equally guilty!

if there was anything the then eastern region was guilty of, it was self-determination, fighting for survival in your own home. zik, though nationalistic, did great disservice to biafra. his political 'correctness' made him loved by the north, but disliked by easterners. he wanted to have both sides, Nigeria and Biafra.
Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by wadetaw202: 11:41pm On Jul 26, 2015
SonOfEl:


young man I believe your history files are rusty. Google up pre independence attacks on Igbo's in northern Nigeria. 1953 case is a strong instance.

So old man, ironsi's coup was a revenge right?
Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by wadetaw202: 11:44pm On Jul 26, 2015
noblezone:



Igbos did not kill Sarduana. Nigerian army officers did.
The army entered the scene because of wide spread political violence.
Have you heard about "operation wetie"?


Operation wetie has nothing to do with Igbo's. It occurred in the southwest between akintola, omoboriowo and awolowo's supporters.

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Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by omonnakoda: 11:45pm On Jul 26, 2015
basilo101:

Ok. Igbo officer killed sadurna so why cant hausa officers kill Azikiwe or Ironsi and leave ordinary igbos on d streets alone? Did any innocent hausa on d street get killed during Nzeogwu coup?
It does not work like that reactions do not have to be equal and opposite.Sometimes when making payment one may choose to make advance deposit

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Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by SonOfEl(m): 6:43am On Jul 27, 2015
wadetaw202:


So old man, ironsi's coup was a revenge right?

you see...this is why Nigeria can never be one...because of bigoted individuals like you.
Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by SonOfEl(m): 6:48am On Jul 27, 2015
wadetaw202:


Operation wetie has nothing to do with Igbo's. It occurred in the southwest between akintola, omoboriowo and awolowo's supporters.

Igbos were at the helm of affairs at the time in most of the public offices. so young military officers acted based on their sense of responsibility. the coup was nationalist, not tribalist.
Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by SonOfEl(m): 6:53am On Jul 27, 2015
omonnakoda:
It does not work like that reactions do not have to be equal and opposite.Sometimes when making payment one may choose to make advance deposit

awfully lame excuse....even ancient laws would say 'eye for eye'....any excuse you are giving is a lame attempt in covering your envy and hate for Igbos, because you fear Igbo domination..... inferiority complex....

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Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by omonnakoda: 7:03am On Jul 27, 2015
SonOfEl:


awfully lame excuse....even ancient laws would say 'eye for eye'....any excuse you are giving is a lame attempt in covering your envy and hate for Igbos, because you fear Igbo domination..... inferiority complex....
It is no excuse. You can tell yourself all kinds of tales to make yourself feel good but the truth is if you have the effrontery to slap the president do not expect that all you will get in return is a slap. Do you think one EBoe live is equal to one Akintola? No it is 10000 to 1 .So next time hopefully you will think TWICE
Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by SonOfEl(m): 7:08am On Jul 27, 2015
omonnakoda:
It is no excuse. You can tell yourself all kinds of tales to make yourself feel good but the truth is if you have the effrontery to slap the president do not expect that all you will get in return is a slap. Do you think one EBoe live is equal to one Akintola? No it is 10000 to 1 .So next time hopefully you will think TWICE

you go fear analysis....... keep marstubating your delusion.
Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by vanunu: 7:08am On Jul 27, 2015
wadetaw202:


If Igbo's were not selfish and self centered to kill sadauna of sokoto and other northerners to pave way for January 1966 coup, all these wouldn't have happened. The very selfish demonic plans of igbos in January sowed the seed for northern violence against Igbo's. Before the nzeogwi-ironsi coup, there was nothing like violence against Igbo's and Nigeria was also at peace. Nzeogwu and co's decision to stage a coup sowed the seed for tribalism and ethnical violence in Nigeria.

U must be lie muhammed's younger brother,
Why do u nigerians lie shamelessly. In Jos in 1945, hundreds of igbos were killed for no fault of their own, and the igbos did not accuse the whole of the north for organising the killings . Also in kano in 1953 and 1956, thousands of igbos were again killed.
Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by omonnakoda: 7:12am On Jul 27, 2015
SonOfEl:


you go fear analysis....... keep marstubating your delusion.
lol masturbate na the new one wey dey reign for una,no more ZOO?
You folk are pathetic.Do you have any ideas of YOUR OWN?
Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by SonOfEl(m): 7:18am On Jul 27, 2015
omonnakoda:
lol masturbate na the new one wey dey reign for una,no more ZOO?
You folk are pathetic.Do you have any ideas of YOUR OWN?

lol.......tell that to your brothers....Igbos whether good or bad, are known for their high IQ, not amala and photoshopped brain....and the use of the word ' masturbation' in other forms of usage is new to you....just as I expected.
Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by GangBangers: 7:30am On Jul 27, 2015
wadetaw202:


If Igbo's were not selfish and self centered to kill sadauna of sokoto and other northerners to pave way for January 1966 coup, all these wouldn't have happened. The very selfish demonic plans of igbos in January sowed the seed for northern violence against Igbo's. Before the nzeogwi-ironsi coup, there was nothing like violence against Igbo's and Nigeria was also at peace. Nzeogwu and co's decision to stage a coup sowed the seed for tribalism and ethnical violence in Nigeria.

You are a big idiot. The northerners have always been killing igbos since before 1960. Bloody Islamic fool.
Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by meccuno: 7:45am On Jul 27, 2015
wadetaw202:


If Igbo's were not selfish and self centered to kill sadauna of sokoto and other northerners to pave way for January 1966 coup, all these wouldn't have happened. The very selfish demonic plans of igbos in January sowed the seed for northern violence against Igbo's. Before the nzeogwi-ironsi coup, there was nothing like violence against Igbo's and Nigeria was also at peace. Nzeogwu and co's decision to stage a coup sowed the seed for tribalism and ethnical violence in Nigeria.
are you for real? Some times I wonder how old most people who comment on this forum are........even if a book is opened for you during an exam you will still fail.....
Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by meccuno: 7:52am On Jul 27, 2015
Wsdm:
I am yet to come to terms on why the other part of the country will not allow these people to simply go away and form their 'Isreal' in Africa. Each time they have an opportunity the maim the North and destroy its essence- a study case is the proxy war on Boko haram where Ihejirika led the army to kill General Shuwa, destroyed the largest cattle market in Africa(Potiskum), destroyed the largest fishery market in Africa(Bama) and thousands of innocent civillians all in the name of fighting boko haram. I have started telling my Northern friends that if the present elite refuses to devide this country, we shall do that during our time. Buhari should just stablise the Northern economy and let us seperate. If the Northern elites did not seperate this country at the apropriate time;one day they will slip into power like GEJ and also look for an opportunity to destroy any development we have achieved. Every body in the North seems to be in total darkness about boko haram. So is not a rocket science that someone is truly behind it- and who could that be order than the people in power who have shown such desdain to the North. They have done that before, did it now and shall be happy to do it again. Just imagine the amount of destruction that happened to the North and all these people could do is to blame the North for salvating themselves by voting out the 'plague'. The seperation I shall scheme for as long as i live. Proudly Arewa.
and some people would read this an over look it as tribalism..........but if it was an igbo man, some certain names would pop up like pop corns...........
Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by meccuno: 8:04am On Jul 27, 2015
vanunu:


U must be lie muhammed's younger brother,
Why do u nigerians lie shamelessly. In Jos in 1945, hundreds of igbos were killed for no fault of their own, and the igbos did not accuse the whole of the north for organising the killings . Also in kano in 1953 and 1956, thousands of igbos were again killed.
that's why I just prefer to read.......cause the level of misinformation and information to suit cause is appalling.......just sorry for those who don't take time to read......
Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by Nobody: 9:17am On Jul 27, 2015
wadetaw202:


If Igbo's were not selfish and self centered to kill sadauna of sokoto and other northerners to pave way for January 1966 coup, all these wouldn't have happened. The very selfish demonic plans of igbos in January sowed the seed for northern violence against Igbo's. Before the nzeogwi-ironsi coup, there was nothing like violence against Igbo's and Nigeria was also at peace. Nzeogwu and co's decision to stage a coup sowed the seed for tribalism and ethnical violence in Nigeria.
You don't know what you are saying.

The killing of Igbos in the north date back to 1945.

So Nzeogwu's coup started tribalism in Nigeria?

When sadauna of sokoto made his anti-igbo speech,has there been any Nzeogwu's coup?

When sadauna of sokoto began his northernization policy,has there been any Nzeogwu's coup?

When sadauna and his prime minister were favouring northerners in the military,has there been any Nzeogwu's coup?

Pls don't talk what you don't know!

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Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by wadetaw202: 11:39am On Aug 01, 2015
GangBangers:


I am a big idiot. My Igbo father is an OSU, the outcast. He impregnated my prostitute mother and that gave birth to my Bloody Foolish self. The only hope for me is suicide due to the wretched state of my life. Shame on me. I spit on myself
Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by wadetaw202: 11:44am On Aug 01, 2015
SonOfEl:


you see...this is why Nigeria can never be one...because of bigoted individuals like you.

meesr unbigoted old man, you would answer my question if you still have some sense of reasoning left in your old head.
Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by SonOfEl(m): 11:48am On Aug 01, 2015
wadetaw202:


meesr unbigoted old man, you would answer my question if you still have some sense of reasoning left in your old head.

coward hiding under social media...even your father and mother wouldn't dare spew such trash if they see me face to face....
Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by wadetaw202: 12:57pm On Aug 01, 2015
SonOfEl:

my father is a bastard and my mother is a prostitute, just like her mother before her. I am a flaaathead and the only thing i can do well in my life is empty chest-beating. It is not my fault o; it is because i come from a cursed tribe and because my head is damn too flat.
Re: The Formerly Secret Files On The Nigerian War Over Biafra. By Mark Curtis by SonOfEl(m): 1:34pm On Aug 01, 2015
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wadetaw,
I didnt know you really wanted to be me....*shakes head pitifully* thank God for social media

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