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Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by After1one: 3:09am On Jun 15, 2015 |
AhmedMustapha: The little boy whynotthetruth is a bigot and hypocrite. Simple. He keep shifting the goal post and posting meaningless trash without evidence or stats to prove his lies. From Ebonyi and co are not owing, to they are viable and now to infrastructure comparison when those region are just like 1763BC. Same Ebonyi where cholera is killing people daily cos of no good water but he wont advice them cos Yoruba are his problem. Rubbish. |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by After1one: 3:12am On Jun 15, 2015 |
[s] MizMyColi:[/s] Another yeebhoe hypocrite. She will never condemn the likes of Ochendo that steal them blind and still force his stooge, son and family on them but will be quick to curse Tinubu when they are all same looters and useless leaders. Buhahahahaha. Una own hypocrisy is inbuilt and factory fitted. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by MizMyColi(f): 6:51am On Jun 15, 2015 |
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Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by francizy(m): 7:03am On Jun 15, 2015 |
Truckpusher: It's good that am not the only one trying to talk sense into that boy.. Kudos to you man! |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by After1one: 7:17am On Jun 15, 2015 |
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Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by fx45(m): 7:28am On Jun 15, 2015 |
Whynotthetruth:Even at that, Aba has a very vibrant and buoyant economy. The only downside is bad roads and blocked drainages. |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by nduchucks: 7:39am On Jun 15, 2015 |
When you people decide to exercise your rights to be patriotic, you'd start using your brains to profer solutions to these problems rather than wallow in sorrowful mourning of losing the recent elections. Smh |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(m): 8:29am On Jun 15, 2015 |
jstbeinhonest: Outside Lagos, probably his other submission on that may hold some water... |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(m): 8:34am On Jun 15, 2015 |
AhmedMustapha: And when you were given recent info...it never changed your partisan outlook because it is not anything patriotism or growth of the system but myopic gains of partisan inclinations.... |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(m): 8:37am On Jun 15, 2015 |
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Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by PassingShot(m): 8:47am On Jun 15, 2015 |
Whynotthetruth:When I have ample time, I will analyse what GEJ earned, what he met as debt, what he added to our debt and what he squandered. I have always been very fair in my views to issues and on many occasions I have proved it to you with past posts of mine. I wish you were as half principled, truthful and not fanatical. Got no time for further talk now. |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(m): 8:53am On Jun 15, 2015 |
0lumide: It is unfortunate that the only thing you saw here is tribal bashing...Anyway, let me oblige you the facts about voting pattern in Nigeria about SW since independence...I also challenge you to present that of SE/SS to prove me wrong... The South-West zone has 14,296,163 registered voters, which represents 19.44% of the total number of voters nationwide. In terms of national electoral strength, the zone is number 2. Taking into account the electoral behaviour of the South-West since independence, the zone has proven itself, without exception, of incapable of voting anyone other than its own. In the 1st Republic, it voted mainly Action Group in favour of Chief Obafemi Awolowo with about 69% voters’ turnout. In the 2nd Republic, it voted 78.75% of its total votes cast for UPN in favour of Chief Awolowo, with 70% voters’ turnout. In the June 12, 1993 presidential election, the pattern was repeated more or less the same, except that the total percentage of SDP’s votes in favour of Chief MKO Abiola rose up to 84.5% in the zone. In the 1999 presidential election, mainly because the only two candidates for the presidency were both from the South-West, the zone’s voters’ turnout was abysmally low (48.09%) with about 68% of the votes cast to APP in favour of Chief Olu Falaye. 2003 also recorded poor voters’ turnout with 71% of votes cast for Obasanjo’s PDP. In 2011, with no Southwestern candidate fielded by any of the major parties, the South-West voted PDP when a functional alliance with the CPC failed to field in Sen. Tinubu or his nominee. Besides, with the vicious experience of AD in 2003 when the PDP Federal Government uprooted its governments in five states of the zone, the South-West cannot now afford to risk having an opposition PDP government at the federal level again; certainly not after the hard pains and toils of forming the APC. It is therefore existential for the South-West to vote APC at the presidential election. http://dailytrust.com.ng/daily/politics/50349-2015-presidential-election-how-and- why-pdp-will-lose |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by AhmedMustapha(m): 8:59am On Jun 15, 2015 |
Whynotthetruth:What recent info? You mean propaganda? I've told you only fellow hypocrites will believe even a sentence of your post. My request is simple as at 2007, Only Imo made the list of top 10 economically buoyant states. If you have that of 2015, kindly post it here. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nigerian_states_by_GDP 1 Like |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(m): 9:04am On Jun 15, 2015 |
AhmedMustapha: 1)It is either you're dump hence lack ability to read and understand... otherwise show me from original post till now where it is ever stated here that any SE except Anambra is NOT owing anybody?... 2)What's the content of the link I gave you if those are not facts...what again is fact to you?... 3)You're really dumb...so the link I gave did not show you that all the SE states are leading in all indices of economic development before any other region in Nigeria...and it is just the most recent study....smh... 4)I would not engage you any further if this show of ineptitude and crass ignorance even when being spoonfed with facts from verifiable sources are staring you in the face....Open those links I sent to you and see the contents boy....Stop all these empty rhetorics... |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(m): 9:11am On Jun 15, 2015 |
AhmedMustapha: Don't you think it is high time you kept quiet?... ![]() https://www.nairaland.com/2263635/south-east-south-west-south-south-lead- attainment |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(m): 9:14am On Jun 15, 2015 |
PassingShot: Don't make me take you down that lane of unmasking you again... ![]() |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by AhmedMustapha(m): 9:16am On Jun 15, 2015 |
Whynotthetruth:You can keep deceiving yourself-this is an excerpt from your hypocritical piece " Ebonyi state is still healthy economically, why should Osun state be dead already? If Enugu is still forging ahead strong economically, why should Oyo state be bleeding?" And this has been trashed severally here, you now shift the goal post to economically viable states to suit your stinking hypocrisy. I've said it, when you're done advising the man in Abia,Enugu and Ebonyi then you can do same to others. You posted Imo as a backward South East state because it's APC when it is even the most economically viable state in the SE. Keep deceiving yourself again I say. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(m): 9:18am On Jun 15, 2015 |
AhmedMustapha: Would you mind telling me why and how my link is propaganda and yours better?... ![]() Check out all indices of economic development aptly analyzed below...present such info to counter me bro... https://www.nairaland.com/2263635/south-east-south-west-south-south-lead- attainment Just being curious... what's your state?... ![]() 1 Like |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Nobody: 9:22am On Jun 15, 2015 |
0lumide: I stopped going back and forth with him when I realised this an igbo vs yoruba /Apc vs PDP thread |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by AhmedMustapha(m): 9:32am On Jun 15, 2015 |
Whynotthetruth:I'm also tired of the inconclusive argument just try to be objective when next you post. Hasta la vista |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(m): 9:35am On Jun 15, 2015 |
AhmedMustapha: 1)Just confirmed you're dumb...I was waiting for you to show me where it is stated that those SE are not owing as you blindly accused me of... 2)Plz what is the difference between using these different terms; Economically viable...economically strong...forging strong ahead economically... ![]() 3)How did you prove those states not viable?...Did you hear anybody sending or asking for relief in Ebonyi or Enugu state?...Did you hear of anybody collapsing and dying?...smh... 4)What single industry did Rochas introduce in Imo state to make it most viable to overtake any other SE state ![]() 5)I deal on realities not beating around shadows like you...and I have given you enough attention arguing over inanities....I drop it here all till I see any constructive post not empty and sheepish rhetorics.... |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(m): 9:41am On Jun 15, 2015 |
AhmedMustapha: Hope you read the link so that you don't go around spewing trash all over people?... ![]() |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(m): 9:46am On Jun 15, 2015 |
SarahBabyxx: It is not my problem what meaning you read into my post bearing in mind your prejudice... but also as you congratulate him for spewing lies about voting patterns, enjoy the piece below it shows voting pattern since independence; ![]() ![]() The South-West zone has 14,296,163 registered voters, which represents 19.44% of the total number of voters nationwide. In terms of national electoral strength, the zone is number 2. Taking into account the electoral behaviour of the South-West since independence, the zone has proven itself, without exception, of incapable of voting anyone other than its own. In the 1st Republic, it voted mainly Action Group in favour of Chief Obafemi Awolowo with about 69% voters’ turnout. In the 2nd Republic, it voted 78.75% of its total votes cast for UPN in favour of Chief Awolowo, with 70% voters’ turnout. In the June 12, 1993 presidential election, the pattern was repeated more or less the same, except that the total percentage of SDP’s votes in favour of Chief MKO Abiola rose up to 84.5% in the zone. In the 1999 presidential election, mainly because the only two candidates for the presidency were both from the South-West, the zone’s voters’ turnout was abysmally low (48.09%) with about 68% of the votes cast to APP in favour of Chief Olu Falaye. 2003 also recorded poor voters’ turnout with 71% of votes cast for Obasanjo’s PDP. In 2011, with no Southwestern candidate fielded by any of the major parties, the South-West voted PDP when a functional alliance with the CPC failed to field in Sen. Tinubu or his nominee. Besides, with the vicious experience of AD in 2003 when the PDP Federal Government uprooted its governments in five states of the zone, the South-West cannot now afford to risk having an opposition PDP government at the federal level again; certainly not after the hard pains and toils of forming the APC. It is therefore existential for the South-West to vote APC at the presidential election. http://dailytrust.com.ng/daily/politics/50349-2015-presidential-election-how-and- why-pdp-will-lose |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by fx45(m): 9:49am On Jun 15, 2015 |
Whynotthetruth:Lagos is included! 60% of that megalopolis is slum. There is a very poor drainage system and the roads are bad too with no functional streetlighting. There's very poor physical and infrastructural planning. Just two hours of continuous rainfall exposes Lagos to mind-boggling flooding. The streets are dirty and the environment emits a very pungent and sickly stench. Take a trip to Oshodi, Ojota, Mile12, Mushin, Bariga...... The list is endless. Majority of the people live in squalor and in an unhealthy/unfriendly environment. |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(m): 9:53am On Jun 15, 2015 |
fx45: There are parts of Lagos not prone to such as you stated above... Anyway, this is not the aim of this piece...such is prone to sentiments...so let's skip and move on...good morning boss... |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by mandarin: 10:04am On Jun 15, 2015 |
When a state like Osun can no longer fulfil its obligations it can be concluded that its technically bankrupt. Although Osun is not the only culpable state in this case, there are 18 of them and if not for oil derivation for some of the Niger Delta state, the story would have been the same. For those clamouring for new states, my advise is perish such dreams and work on an economic stability of the current ones. Secenerio analysis and forecasts are needed by states to build virile economy for example, now that United States is the largest producer of oil in the world and wont be needing Nigerian oil and if the British should shun Nigeria oil and Iran beging to produce and the price of oil drop to like $25-$30 a barrel, how will states fare? These are possibilties that should open the eyes of the leadrship. We must admit that Jonathan and his crew were TOTAL failure and am particularly dismayed that a professionally trained economist in Okonjo Iweala failed to conduct scenario testing by just looking at inernational politics and the rise of fracking in United States after oil price was between $80-$110 a barrel. That was a colossal failure on her part as the coordinating minister of the economy. However, state governors are greater failures for not seeking to look for how to use their oil allocations to buiild avenues for wealth generation for their states, they screwed the whole country, its a shame. Ogbeni Aregbesola should begin to have a rethink on his socialism leaning and pay his workers, he must pay them and likewise all the governors of these 18 states. HAVE THEY NOT RECEIVED THEIR OWN SALARIES? what about security votes and all those infllated contacts? they should just pay workers. Guys, you can all call Tinubu anything but we have to give it to him and Fashola for looking into the future and seeking ways to move Lagos forward without trickles from oil. As of today, without oil in Nigeria only Lagos can function well and will do much better if mismanagement is tackled. There is no regional exception to this but we must admit that a lot of these politicians committed too much resources to the last election and who is suffering for it now? Also, the civil service reform of Bisi Akande was jettison by Oyinlola PDP in order to win sympathy and Aregbe could not revert because that will be politically suicidal, Nigeria need a honest approach to governance. You can imagine that Fayose's stomach infrastructure will have to be suspended because Ekiti is also in the limbo and politicians commit over 60% of states incomes to politiking and its like that all over. Akwa Ibom cannot feel it because of steady oil derivation incomes but take away the oil and the state will be among the poorest in southern Nigeria. For those shouting BIAFRA and NIGER DELTA REPUBLIC or Lower Niger have you done your scenario testing with oil at $10 or at $5 and see if you can survive? To me, Nigeria must focus on building the domestic market, practice Regional federalism and begin to focus on delivering economic policies of emancipation. 1 Like |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by fx45(m): 10:10am On Jun 15, 2015 |
Whynotthetruth:Good morning Sir! The problem is that majority of these people are untravelled and such are very ignorant of what happens outside their zone. The fact that we're bold enough to call out our leaders for incompetence and for not meeting up to expected levels of service delivery does not imply that the state is in ruins. It simply means that we demand more from these leaders instead of shielding them because of unneccesary ethnic rivalry. We're never deceived or hoodwinked by propaganda. T.A Orji tried it and failed. The message these South-Westerners have failed to get is that they should start holding their leaders accountable. They should demand more from them! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(m): 10:34am On Jun 15, 2015 |
fx45: I for sure share your sentiments... and I have been privileged to visit almost all SW states except Osun and knows firsthand what's there... It is based on my experience that I came up with this piece because I want them to hold their local leaders accountable... Most of them believe Nigeria began in Shagamu and ended in Badagry...They rarely travel outside their locals...I did most of my travels to their respective states just for knowledge sake, sightseeing and know what life is like outside my immediate environment... though I almost met a waterloo in one such travels.... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(m): 10:53am On Jun 15, 2015 |
mandarin : thanks so much for not seeing this article through an ethnic lens and constructively marshalling out your points though I may want to differ with some of them...Wish my girlfriend@ SarahBabyxx and my guy@AhmedMustapha alongside other ethnic jingoists were as broad minded too it would have made an interesting discuss... In all suffice it to say that, be sure there can never be a time oil(energy) would seize to be a major factor in the world; though till USA influence or grip on world politics is whittled down, they will keep playing politics with price of oil using UAE as front remembering their I think 1894 or thereabout treaty...In this case, though Jonathan had issues with them with his gay law and establishing more business relationship with China as against them hence they wanted him out but there primary target in this oil price mess is Russia...they need to clip Putin... 3 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Nobody: 11:46am On Jun 15, 2015 |
Whynotthetruth: I'm not an 'ethnic jingoist''....I'm not even from the SW but I might as well be called a SWner since I spent most of my life in this region No one was disputing the fact that SW states are in debt but the fact that you compared them with SOME states in the SE in a way that suits your purpose....fact is DEBT is DEBT....you can't try to sugarcoat it by making one region look less just to suit you purpose The laughable part of your article was how you compared Ebonyi with osun....a state that we don't even know where its allocation goes to and Is still borrowing.....you even went as far making Enugu look like its economically strong when in fact it is one of most indebted states As for your 'advice' for the SW....they know what is going...you think we don't know how akala ran Oyo?? I lived in ibadan for a while and I knw Akala is the worst thing that ever happened to OYO......I'd leave you to compare and contrast Akala and Ajimobi.....I don't even want to talk about Gbenga Daniel......go to Ogun they you'd know wassup....atleast if they 'borrowed' we know it was used for something....what did Elechi use the money for? Are you people holding him accountable? Don't even get me stated on Aba (Abia) The fact is your house is burning and you want to put out the fire in another man's house....we're not all stupid we can read between the lines |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(m): 6:41pm On Jun 15, 2015 |
SarahBabyxx: Sorry for my late reply... Yes, your last part confirms your prejudice and mindset which is a prerequisite for an ethnic jingoist; who only sees whatever opinion through such lens...Till you read this article with an open mind, you will keep saying same thing though in different ways... Fine...you have been in SW for long just like I do know them and not from a distance too... Have you been to SE especially Ebonyi state ![]() Ebonyi has similar economic fortunes as Osun both in agricultural terms, natural resource, and federal allocation; hence should be in almost same condition as Osun but they are not...They are by far better than Osun state so far... Enugu borrowed for its projects and I think they have some good results to show for it; hence even Fr Mbaka that runs as opposition to bad governance in the SE has not much complaint so far(cf with his stance on previous governments both in and out of Enugu state)...Can same be said of the Oyo?... I know some stuffs about ALL these states both on paper and in reality....where area are u from? |
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Nobody: 6:49pm On Jun 15, 2015 |
Whynotthetruth: Ok ![]() |
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