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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:11am On Jun 15, 2015 |
Henry120: Western MBT are better them. The problem with the current Russian jets is their engines and maintenance cycles. The modified soviet era engines are problematic look at India's SU-30MKI fleet. I'm not saying they're inferior. They are just problematic compared to what we'd describe as "western jets". The SA's retired Cheetah jets proved a match for the SU-35 when SAAF used long range missiles.(R-Darter) |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:18am On Jun 15, 2015 |
FighterPilot: Insults won't buy you ISTAR aircraft overnight. I have always called ATR-42 the mighty Surveyor on this forum since one year ago, I used the word before you. My reference is to your second post, you said visuals, because you thought radar gives visuals at close range. I educated you that radar gives signals not visuals, be grateful, Malay Pig, say thank you to Nigerians who open your tiny Pig eyes 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:19am On Jun 15, 2015 |
FighterPilot: ATR-42 radar range is 407 km. On this forum, I am known to be honest . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:22am On Jun 15, 2015 |
agaugust:Various systems can be used to collect intelligence. Including signal interception and cameras. The F-7 is an interceptor! Nothing more! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:22am On Jun 15, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: In which battle or war? . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:24am On Jun 15, 2015 |
agaugust:So? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:27am On Jun 15, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: F-7 jet of PAF and BAF carry air to surface guided weapons for ground attack, and recce pod for surveillance. That's multi-role. F-7 jet is an interceptor and strike fighter http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=1052 . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:27am On Jun 15, 2015 |
agaugust:Yes, surveillance radar gives visuals/images. FREE EDUCATION. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:29am On Jun 15, 2015 |
agaugust:We are talking about Nigeria not the "can't-fight PAF". Pakistan has various upgraded versions of the F-7. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:33am On Jun 15, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: All F-7 jets are standard multi-role fighters built for interceptor/strike role. The link I posted is general info for all F-7, not NAF alone. Learn to read with your head, not your fingers....http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=1052 . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:39am On Jun 15, 2015 |
agaugust:We are talking about NAF not PAF. Pakistan operates upgraded variants of that jet. "standard multi-role fighters built for interceptor/strike role" what does this even mean? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:45am On Jun 15, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: You are obviously senile! The T-72B3, T-80U and T-90A2 are more than a match for any western MBT. The T-14 is on a whole new level. It is pound for pound the best MBT in the world. Indian MKI's are the best in their class. The Problem with the incidences with Indian MKI's are primarily down to indian maintenance/ mechanical faults. HAL bears primary responsibility for for their action or inaction with india's SU fleet. Western, Primarily US made fighter jets have been involved in more crashes than those from Russia in the last half a decade. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 11:53am On Jun 15, 2015 |
MikeCZAR:then why did you say it can be used for istar? When you know it doesnt have radar. Illiterat.e 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 12:21pm On Jun 15, 2015 |
agaugust: A black tire is not am insult, it is just another way of referring to a fool. Fool, how can the radar give visuals if it does not have cams? That is logical and basic. I am quite sure that you have a problem understanding English, you poor Igbo man. I work with radars everyday. I have only said that it will be useless to survey the battle field over 400 km since you will not be getting any visuals. ISTAR does not require only signals but visuals as well for target acquisition purposes. Then if you do it only with your radars it will not be a complete ISTAR. Your luxurious wasful expenditure will unfortunately have to come to the battle ground in order to survey it in details. Doing it 400 kms away will not help you fool. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:28pm On Jun 15, 2015 |
Henry120:And? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 12:28pm On Jun 15, 2015 |
agaugust: You see now you are the most controversial element on Nairaland. You should be offered an award for that category. The 330km ground search radar range was confessed out of your own mouth and now it has suddenly changed. Why do you always want to remain an "X" which will always have to be solved on Nairaland. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 12:48pm On Jun 15, 2015 |
Henry120:Yes, the old Cheetahs did. The Leopard 2, Challenger 2 and Abrams are better than all those tanks. No, there's problem with their engines. The Indian air force even said this but the Russians are denying it. Also their maintenance cycles are shorter than western jets. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 12:50pm On Jun 15, 2015 |
lionel4power:Because an aircraft without radar can be used. You mentioned UAVs last week. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 12:52pm On Jun 15, 2015 |
One thing that I respect about BOKO HARAM is that they care less about a luxurious wasteful expenditure called ATR42. They do not respect it at all and they continue to ran down every credible feature that this overrated tech is said to have. They have proved that it can easily be penetrated and broken down, every bit of it, piece by piece. They humiliate this tech such that it is now clear on everyone's eyes that the Italians dubbed Nigerians into falling for this luxurious wasteful expenditure. They knew well Nigerian military was still poor to boast such a tech, they knew it was still just a kid to get into such big expensive shoes. YOU HAVE BEEN DUPPED. Meanwhile, BH attacks a Babangida community in Yobe burning down a police station and houses to the ground. http://dailypost.ng/2015/06/15/boko-haram-attacks-babangida-in-yobe/ |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 1:34pm On Jun 15, 2015 |
FighterPilot: you are the biggest and most disgraceful foolish south african on this thread. your son would shake his head in shame if he gets to know his father's level of reasoning. and you claim to be in the military. if this is the product of the SANDF, your defence review should also include eradicating illiteracy from it's illiterate personnel. you should also respect ISIS, PKK, IRA etc... (being a lover of terrorists) because US and these military high tech weapons are yet to stop them. you deserve no respect as you have proven toto reason like a sub-human. terrorist 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:02pm On Jun 15, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: Indian local industry input in manufacture and inadequate maintenance can be a cause for Indian Su-30 MKI crashes. China flies 100 units of Su-30 MKK and have very very rare crash incidents. American and European jets are crashing more than the Russian jets. F-16, F-18, F-15, Tornado, and new generation 4 Eurofighter Typhoons have crashed, then the new thriller...5 Rafale jets have crashed in 5 years . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:07pm On Jun 15, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: Means you are too dull to understand basic terminology. All F-7 jets are built for multi-role, interceptor and strike roles combined....including NAF F-7NI jets. "The J-7 has been designed to perform ground attack missions in all weather conditions." http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/j7f7fighteraircraft/ http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=1052 Now think before you talk next time....Odenson |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:09pm On Jun 15, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: FighterPilot: Two South Africans d.estroying e.ach other on Nairaland . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:14pm On Jun 15, 2015 |
FighterPilot: Like you think we will panic because you have data-link....is Link.ZA a jet fighter ? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:15pm On Jun 15, 2015 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:18pm On Jun 15, 2015 |
FighterPilot: ATR-42 Surveyor radar range is 407 km.....that's confirmed now. Live with it.....oh ! You are afraid of the African king of radars ? Cool. Trust me, I don't make claims without evidence. It's 407 km radar on NAF ATR-42 just confirmed. We enjoy the fear and terror Nigerian ISTAR gives 50 million South Africans . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 2:22pm On Jun 15, 2015 |
agaugust:I'm not saying because their engines are troublesome they'll always crash. Their engines are problematic and requirement a lot of maintenance compared to western ones. SA experimented with some in the early 90s. As a result, PLA Air Force has been knowing the stability of Russian engines. www.china-defense-mashup.com/chinese-avic-top-head-admits-the-poor-quality-of-jet-engine.html |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 2:24pm On Jun 15, 2015 |
agaugust: You are nothing but just a chameleon who changes everything the way they want in order to suit their fallacious wishes. So, which one do we take, since I guess that next time it will change to 600 kms? You are such a desperate chameleon. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 2:27pm On Jun 15, 2015 |
agaugust: Data link is far more important since it communicate with all platforms at the same time. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:32pm On Jun 15, 2015 |
FighterPilot: Fool, ATR-42 is a long range ISTAR platform, it does NOT fly into battlefield if their is capable threat. Yet ATR-42 Surveyor has anti-missile self defences, chaff/flare counter measures, and anti-jamming devices. NAF ATR-42 does not use only radar you M0R0N, it has long range TV camera with magnification lens to video watch the battlefield from a safe distance beyond reach of enemy air defences, and if need be it can be escorted by jet fighters to stop enemy jets in the air. No country in the world flies ISTAR aircraft into battle theatre of air to air threats without escort by fighter jets. You are a domingo block head. SANDF/SAAF does not have any ISTAR aircraft with long range TV camera for visuals of battlefield from same distance, you will never understand ISTAR until 50 million South Afrivans raise funds via bank loan to buy one of Nigeria's type of aircraft . 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 2:33pm On Jun 15, 2015 |
stillchris: Thanks for pulling out that honest admission that your overrated glorified piece of technology you have been dubbed to buy is yet to stop Boko haram. Thank you very much. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:35pm On Jun 15, 2015 |
jln115: You were telling lies. |
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