FighterPilot:


Data link is far more important since it communicate with all platforms at the same time.

Data link CANNOT communicate information that has NOT been first detected by ISTAR you fool !

You ever seen a computer doing data processing before data gathering ? Mumu, Southie universities cannot teach you basics of data processing.

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ATR-42 Surveyor radar range is 407 km....any Southie ready to prove otherwise ?

It's been a bad ISTAR week for them Sowetans
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agaugust:


Fool, ATR-42 is a long range ISTAR platform, it does NOT fly into battlefield if their is capable threat. Yet ATR-42 Surveyor has anti-missile self defences, chaff/flare counter measures, and anti-jamming devices.

NAF ATR-42 does not use only radar you M0R0N, it has long range TV camera with magnification lens to video watch the battlefield from a safe distance beyond reach of enemy air defences, and if need be it can be escorted by jet fighters to stop enemy jets in the air.

No country in the world flies ISTAR aircraft into battle theatre of air to air threats without escort by fighter jets. You are a domingo block head.

SANDF/SAAF does not have any ISTAR aircraft with long range TV camera for visuals of battlefield from same distance, you will never understand ISTAR until 50 million South Afrivans raise funds via bank loan to buy one of Nigeria's type of aircraft
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Bwahahahahaha… To complete an ISTAR with visuals, one has to take that risk. Those cams cannot perform the magic of taking visuals hundreds of kilometres away. Your luxurious ATR42 will never stand a fighter jet, that is why is escorted by defence fire. It will not do such against SANDF which is well equipped with powerful fighters. It will kiss the ground sooner than expected.

Your ATR is just only as good as patrolling pirates in the sea.

agaugust:

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ATR-42 Surveyor radar range is 407 km....any Southie ready to prove otherwise ?

It's been a bad ISTAR week for them Sowetans
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Because you say so sir.

agaugust:


Indian local industry input in manufacture and inadequate maintenance can be a cause for Indian Su-30 MKI crashes.

China flies 100 units of Su-30 MKK and have very very rare crash incidents.

American and European jets are crashing more than the Russian jets. F-16, F-18, F-15, Tornado, and new generation 4 Eurofighter Typhoons have crashed, then the new thriller...5 Rafale jets have crashed in 5 years
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and they still won't see anything wrong with this fact because it's WESTERN.

these south africans and their western as5licking is just too obvious.

that's why their government wants to covertly arrest bashir so their western lords will praise them.

FighterPilot:


Thanks for pulling out that honest admission that your overrated glorified piece of technology you have been dubbed to buy is yet to stop Boko haram.

Thank you very much.

Terrorist

we had those ATR before boko haram wentvon rampage. it was recently upgraded because we needed to boost our ISTAR capabilities.

are you also saying the US, and world powers have dupped themselves too?

oh.. the stup1dity

agaugust:


Data link CANNOT communicate information that has NOT been first detected by ISTAR you fool !

You ever seen a computer doing data processing before data gathering ? Mumu, Southie universities cannot teach you basics of data processing.

With tactical data link there is no matter of first. Whoever sees what everyone sees it simultaneously. That's why NATO and US are so reluctant to share this tech with anyone, they instead want monopoly on the system.

stillchris:


Terrorist

Bwahahahaha…

It is not me, rather blame Boko haram for humiliating your recently wasteful transaction.

MikeCZAR:
Yes, the old Cheetahs did.

The Leopard 2, Challenger 2 and Abrams are better than all those tanks.

No, there's problem with their engines. The Indian air force even said this but the Russians are denying it.

Also their maintenance cycles are shorter than western jets.

- No evidence.

- you cannot read and understand properly. Seems to be a severe structural flaw you South-Africans have in your educational system. I said, they are more than a match for any western system, and the T-14 is simply in a whole new class above anything anyone has.

- the Problem is from India, not the Russians. Thousands of fighter planes fly with Russian engines. Chinese 5th Generation fighters are powered by Russian engines. The Chinese fly over a hundred SU-30s, Same as Russia, Indonesia etc etc.

Western Fighter jets in the last decade have a worse reliability record. Hungary lost 2 Gripen Jets in one month(may). F-16 and F-15's have been falling of the sky like they got hit by a high frequency EMP burst.


The SU-30's are very capable fighters hence they need proper maintenance.

FighterPilot:



Bwahahahahaha… To complete an ISTAR with visuals, one has to take that risk. Those cams cannot perform the magic of taking visuals hundreds of kilometres away. Your luxurious ATR42 will never stand a fighter jet, that is why is escorted by defence fire. It will not do such against SANDF which is a well equipped with powerful fighters. It will kiss the ground sooner than expected.

Your ATR is just only as good as patrolling pirates in the sea.

ATR-42 Long range TV cameras with magnification of images you dummy

I forgot that you have English comprehension problems....do you know the meaning of image magnification lens ? No, you don't.

Even American and British ISTAR aircraft will be escorted by jet fighters if their is enemy air to air threat.

ATR-42 has anti-missle defense countermeasures.

NAF F-7 jets will face your Gripen jets and trust NAF has an edge with ATR-42 mini AWACS role, the 407 km radar has air to air mode and the Gripen will be detected before the Gripen detects the ATR-42.

We act before you, the ATR-42 monitors the entire battle space and we see your Gripens before they see our ISTAR and interceptors

LOL, I thought you were an air force man, or are you a toilet cleaner in SAAF ? You can't even figure out a battle scenario
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FighterPilot:


With tactical data link there is no matter of first. Whoever sees what everyone sees it simultaneously. That's why NATO and US are so reluctant to share this tech with anyone, they instead want monopoly on the system.

You have no operational data link. LinkZA only exists on paper.

Henry120:


You have no operational data link. LinkZA only exists on paper.

Because you say so. You have the right to utter any nonsense. Of course that's your mouth.

agaugust:


ATR-42 Long range TV cameras with magnification of images you dummy

I forgot that you have English comprehension problems....do you know the meaning of image magnification lens ? No, you don't.

Even American and British ISTAR aircraft will be escorted by jet fighters if their is enemy air to air threat.

ATR-42 has anti-missle defense countermeasures.

NAF F-7 jets will face your Gripen jets and trust NAF has an edge with ATR-42 mini AWACS role, the 407 km radar has air to air mode and the Gripen will be detected before the Gripen detects the ATR-42.

We act before you, the ATR-42 monitors the entire battle space and we see your Gripens before they see our ISTAR and interceptors

LOL, I thought you were an air force man, or are you a toilet cleaner in SAAF ? You can't even figure out a battle scenario
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And our PL-9C missiles have a longer range than theirs.

FighterPilot:


Bwahahahaha…

It is not me, rather blame Boko haram for humiliating your recently wasteful transaction.

All I see is Boko Haram in the grave or in captivity, we humiliate them on the streets.

SANDF cannot stop humiliation by Rhino thieves on daily basis inside your homeland.

See your Boko friend being dragged on the street after being disarmed in battle....you envy our war history
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FighterPilot:


Because you say so.

Why don't you prove us wrong, cite one operational use of LinkZA in Combat or proper exercise use?

Henry120:


And our PL-9C missiles have a longer range than theirs.

He knows, he is just afraid to go there, the ISTAR terror alone scares every Southie, they fear to fight against superior technology....and that fvcking deadly ATR-42 radar range of 407 km....African king !
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agaugust:


All I see is Boko Haram in the grave or in captivity, we humiliate them on the streets.

SANDF cannot stop humiliation by Rhino thieves on daily basis inside your homeland.

See your Boko friend being dragged on the street after being disarmed in battle....you envy our war history
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Boko continues to harass Nigeria as at June 2015

Henry120:


Why don't you prove us wrong, cite one operational use of LinkZA in Combat or proper exercise use?

Even if it is against Rhino poachers, they should show us one use of LinkZA datalink
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agaugust:


He knows, he is just afraid to go there, the ISTAR terror alone scares every Southie, they fear to fight against superior technology....and that fvcking deadly ATR-42 radar range of 407 km....African king !
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ISTAR fails to scare Boko haram, so how will it scare me down here in Pretoria? Bwahahahaha… It stand no chance in SA.

stillchris:


Terrorist

we had those ATR before boko haram wentvon rampage. it was recently upgraded because we needed to boost our ISTAR capabilities.

are you also saying the US, and world powers have dupped themselves too?

oh.. the stup1dity

Fighterpilot's comments are always disgraceful! For a person who claims to work for the SAAF, i don't need to look further to see why they only have 9 Gripen Pilots after 16 years.

FighterPilot:


With tactical data link there is no matter of first.

You have to use ISTAR to search and collect the data first, that is first.

No data gathered, means nothing to transmit on data-link.

ATR-42 has data-link + ISTAR = NAF is complete
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Henry120:


- No evidence.

- you cannot read and understand properly. Seems to be a severe structural flaw you South-Africans have in your educational system. I said, they are more than a match for any western system, and the T-14 is simply in a whole new class above anything anyone has.

- the Problem is from India, not the Russians. Thousands of fighter planes fly with Russian engines. Chinese 5th Generation fighters are powered by Russian engines. The Chinese fly over a hundred SU-30s, Same as Russia, Indonesia etc etc.

Western Fighter jets in the last decade have a worse reliability record. Hungary lost 2 Gripen Jets in one month(may). F-16 and F-15's have been falling of the sky like they got hit by a high frequency EMP burst.


The SU-30's are very capable fighters hence they need proper maintenance.

No match.

What I'm saying is why get a SU-30s which requires massive maintenance compared to fighters of its class from other countries. Unless your procurement is heavily politically influenced and you've to overlook everything else.

Evidence of?

agaugust:


Even if it is against Rhino poachers, they should show us one use of LinkZA datalink
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Thanks God anti Rhino poaching is not a military responsibility.

FighterPilot:


ISTAR fails to scare Boko haram, so how will it scare me down here in Pretoria? Bwahahahaha… It stand no chance in SA.

See Boko Haram running away from ISTAR....NAF scatters Bokos, Shekau III is now on the run for cover

SAAF cannot show you this video....only NAF.....watch and weep for the ISTAR-LESS SAAF .....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rykows2Bj3M&feature=youtu.be
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agaugust:


He knows, he is just afraid to go there, the ISTAR terror alone scares every Southie, they fear to fight against superior technology....and that fvcking deadly ATR-42 radar range of 407 km....African king !
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We would shoot down their tiny Gripens.

agaugust:


You have to use ISTAR to search and collect the data first, that is first.

No data gathered, means nothing to transmit on data-link.

ATR-42 has data-link + ISTAR = NAF is complete
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All SANDF equipments are now Link-ZA compatible and can relay and collect data. We do not rely only on one platform (ATR42) like Nigeria would. A one eyed man relies only on one eye remember, so you are exactly that man.


NIGERIA HAS NO TACTICAL DATA LINK. Do you even know what is a tactical data link sir?

Henry120:


You have no operational data link. LinkZA only exists on paper.

The Gripen has one of the most advanced data links in the world.

Henry120:


We would shoot down their tiny Gripens.

With what sir? Catapults!!!! bwahahahaha…

FighterPilot:


All SANDF equipments are now Link-ZA compatible and can relay and collect data.

Proof that ALL have Link-ZA, post a proof that the job was completed on ALL SANDF equipment
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MikeCZAR:


No match.

What I'm saying is why get a SU-30s which requires massive maintenance compared to fighters of its class from other countries. Unless your procurement is heavily politically influenced and you've to overlook everything else.

Evidence of?

You are delusional! The T-90A2 and T-72B3 are more than a match.


The SU-30MKI is the best fighter jet in it's class. Why should the Indians settle for less, when they can get the best?


Evidence of cheetahs shooting down SU-30MKIs.

Henry120:


We would shoot down their tiny Gripens.

Gripen pilots with short range missiles and lack of qualifying flight hours. Those SAAF pilots hardly every fly or train.

SAAF Gripen jet is used as a mere deterrent NOT threat.

Henry120:


And our PL-9C missiles have a longer range than theirs.

1. How many SAAF aircraft protected special counters measures were shot down in Angola?

2. 3rd Generation vs 5the generation missile.

4. Range of 22km.