agaugust:


Yes, tell us How may combat hours do SAAF Gripens fly in a year ? .

You said SAAF pilots don't get to fly.

Compare flying hours please!

Is that difficult?

MikeCZAR:


A-Darter: 20km

Stop telling random lies.

A-Darter range is ONLY maximum 19 km.

"Guided by a heat-seeking homing head, the A-Darter maximum range is approximately 12 miles (19 km)."

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38741:a-darter-contract-moves-missile-programme-forward&catid=35:Aerospace

#Stop posting random lies
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agaugust:


Citataion showing completed project or operational use today. You don't know what proof is?

I notice 99% of your comments no longer carry any citations or proof. You just lie serially like a man bewitched with lying spirit
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There's no project.

It is a standard.

Every equipment bought after the 98 defence review must the compatible with the CNIS.

MikeCZAR:
You said SAAF pilots don't get to fly.

Compare flying hours please!

Is that difficult?

We are talking about war, so you post your Gripen combat hours per year, I know it is ZERO, but please post it, don't be ashamed now
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agaugust:


Stop telling random lies.

A-Darter range is ONLY maximum 19 km.

"Guided by a heat-seeking homing head, the A-Darter maximum range is approximately 12 miles (19 km)."

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38741:a-darter-contract-moves-missile-programme-forward&catid=35:Aerospace

#Stop posting random lies
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You wanted him to the range is 12,427 miles?

stillchris:


so how will your gripen locate an enemy target 400km away since SANDF lacks the capability?

is it sangoma witches that will relay it to them through data link?

we still outclass you bra

Bwahahahahaha… our tactical data link is not restricted by matter of distance, even in overseas it can still be accessed. Moegoe.

agaugust:


We are talking about war, so you post your Gripen combat hours per year, I know it is ZERO, but please post it, don't be ashamed now
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I have no problem with you shifting goal posts.


Which war is NAF flying air to air combat?

MikeCZAR:


No match!

Why are getting the Rafale if its the best. Why don't they just get more Sukhois.

Regarding that I was just kidding, but the Russians once brought the SU-35 and others jets to SA.

After the coming to power of the democratic government. Maybe the thinking was that since the ANC was in power the defence might start looking to Russia.

They held exercises and with long range missiles the Cheetahs were able to hold their own.

More than a match!


Of course the are getting more Sukhois. The IAF already has over 200 SU-30s, and are still going to get more sukhois (T-50).


The problem with you South-Africans is severe handicap in understanding. Only 36 Rafales were bought to fill the Indian military's MMRCA role. The SU-30 isn't that sort of a fighter.


- so you admit you were lying...... Progress!

stillchris:


so how will your gripen locate an enemy target 400km away since SANDF lacks the capability?

is it sangoma witches that will relay it to them through data link?

we still outclass you bra

Is 400km a standard?

Where is that 400km coming from?

All Nigerians have now finally been put under the train with this so called ATR42 overrated toy. Bwahahahaha…

Henry120:


More than a match!


Of course the are getting more Sukhois. The IAF already has over 200 SU-30s, and are still going to get more sukhois (T-50).


The problem with you South-Africans is severe handicap in understanding. Only 36 Rafales were bought to fill the Indian military's MMRCA role. The SU-30 isn't that sort of a fighter.


- so you admit you were lying...... Progress!

I've proved Russian fighters are problematic and need massive maintenance compared to western jets.

No match. In terms of fire powerand protection.

The Russians after 94 brought the SU-35, MIG-29 and other jets.

Before heading home they held exercises with SAAF.

MikeCZAR:
Compare flying hours!

are you trying to compare flying hours between your 20+ years idle airforce to a Nigerian airforce that has flown more than 10,000 combat sorties since the time SANDF was formed?

don't ever compare your inexperienced airforce with NAF wof more than 20 years combat experience

are you a comedian?

MikeCZAR:
I've proved Russian fighters are problematic and need massive maintenance compared to western jets.

No match. In terms of fire powerand protection.

The Russians after 94 brought the SU-35, MIG-29 and other jets.

Before heading home they held exercises with SAAF.

The only evidence we can see is western planes falling off the Sky.

stillchris:


are you trying to compare flying hours between your 20+ years idle airforce to a Nigerian airforce that has flown more than 10,000 combat sorties since same time SANDF was formed?

are you a comedian?

Help your brother!

Compare yearly flying hours!

Henry120:


The only evidence we can see is western planes falling off the Sky.

Evidence of what?

Russian engines are problematic that has been proven.


They need more regular maintenance compared to "western" aircraft.

MikeCZAR:


Is 400km a standard?

Where is that 400km coming from?

You want other people to post citations for you, yet you NEVER post one citation upon many requests to prove your own claims.

ATR-42 radar is 407 km range. Confirmed for NAF.

You say it's Seaspray radar on ATR-42, I asked for citation, you ran away.....keep running.....keep telling lies...

agaugust:


You want other people to post citations for you, yet you NEVER post one citation upon many requests to prove your own claims.

ATR-42 radar is 407 km range. Confirmed for NAF.

You say it's Seaspray radar on ATR-42, I asked for citation, you ran away.....keep running.....keep telling lies...

The Gripen radar is 500km. Confirmed by SAAF.

MikeCZAR:
Evidence of what?

Russian engines are problematic that has been proven.


They need more regular maintenance compared to "western" aircraft.

Western engines are worse.

MikeCZAR:
The Gripen radar is 500km. Confirmed by SAAF.

Citation needed !
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agaugust:

Citation needed ! .

he's gradually becoming a pesty troll

agaugust:


Citation needed !
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Why does he due to give citation when you have failed to provide yours.? Yes gripen rada range is 500km.

Henry120:


Western engines are worse.

No, when it comes to maintenance they are better than Russian ones.

Even India confessed the SU-30MKI engines were troublesome.

agaugust:


You want other people to post citations for you, yet you NEVER post one citation upon many requests to prove your own claims.

ATR-42 radar is 407 km range. Confirmed for NAF.

You say it's Seaspray radar on ATR-42, I asked for citation, you ran away.....keep running.....keep telling lies...

Gripen's radar range is 500km as confirmed by SANDF.

FighterPilot:


Why does he due to give citation when you have failed to provide yours. Yes gripen rada range is 500km.

Do you know that MikeCZAR has not posted a single citation for over 100 comments he wrote here in 7 days ?

Also, he says ATR-42 radar is Seapray radar, I asked for proof, he refused....so....let him prove the name of the radar with a citattion and I will post proof of the 407 km range

MikeCZAR:
Your ATR-42MP uses the Seaspray surveillance radar.

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MikeCZAR:
No, when it comes to maintenance they are better than Russian ones.

Even India confessed the SU-30MKI engines were troublesome.

All engines require maintenance, proper maintenance. F-15 engines are just as troublesome.

agaugust:

Citation needed ! .

Citation needed.

MikeCZAR:



1. How many protected aircraft were shot down?

A. Afraid of answering or you don't how to read?

A-Darter: 20km

IRIS-T: 25km

PL-9C: 22km

I wonder where does this Agu gets all his specs from. Normally he would take an article that is erroneous to be a fact just to suit his fallacious wishes. He cannot even figure out even if the article is erroneous.

MikeCZAR:
Citation needed.

You go first, post the proof of the radar you named since 3 days ago

MikeCZAR:
Your ATR-42MP uses the Seaspray surveillance radar.

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Henry120:


All engines require maintenance, proper maintenance. F-15 engines are just as troublesome.

Yes, the problem comes also comes from maintenance cycles between flying.

F-15? Really now Henry?

agaugust:


You go first, post the proof of the radar you named since 3 days ago


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You claimed the ATR-42MP has a radar range of 300km months ago!

You been failing to substantiate that claims!

Now you've increased it to 400km.

Substantiate your claims first then we have a mature debate.

FighterPilot:



I wonder where does this Agu gets all his specs from. Normally he would take an article that is erroneous to be a fact just to suit his fallacious wishes. He cannot even figure out even if the article is erroneous.

He's claim is correct I challenged him to change to range on Wikipedia.

MikeCZAR:
You claimed the ATR-42MP has a radar range of 300km months ago!

You been failing to substantiate that claims!

Now you've increased it to 400km.

Substantiate your claims first then we have a mature debate.

I said 330 km range last year. Today I say 407 km radar range for ATR-42 and I stand by it.

Tell us your source of ATR-42 Seaspray radar, then I will post the 407 km range source.

We cannot agree on radar range if we don't agree on what type/name of radar is on the aircraft.

You made your claim before mine. You failed to answer me since then, show us source of the Seaspray radar and I will immediately post the 407 km range source.


Fair deal....or no deal
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