Henry120:


Why don't you prove us wrong, cite one operational use of LinkZA in Combat or proper exercise use?

We have on multiple occasions.

Henry120:


Fighterpilot's comments are always disgraceful! For a person who claims to work for the SAAF, i don't need to look further to see why they only have 9 Gripen Pilots after 16 years.

16 as of 2013/14

Patchesagain:


Multiple instances of its use have been posted.

NO single citation has NEVER been posted for Link-ZA operations in reality
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agaugust:


[s]You have to use ISTAR to search and collect the data first, that is first.

No data gathered, means nothing to transmit on data-link.

ATR-42 has data-link + ISTAR = NAF is complete[/s]
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Name your datalink

Henry120:


We would shoot down their tiny Gripens.

With 3 pilots flying obsolete planes that are armed with obsolete missiles?

Top kek

agaugust:


Proof that ALL have Link-ZA, post a proof that the job was completed on ALL SANDF equipment
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We have, on multiple occasions.

Henry120:


You are delusional! The T-90A2 and T-72B3 are more than a match.


The SU-30MKI is the best fighter jet in it's class. Why should the Indians settle for less, when they can get the best?


Evidence of cheetahs shooting down SU-30MKIs.

"because i say so"

agaugust:


You mean the ugly side of it's incapacity.

Consoles process data, so data-link has no console to analyse data......becomes half useless, the target is NON-IDENTIFIED, your Hawk jet just attacks anything that moves in that target location even if it is a friend....

The data is transmitted (via data-link) to ground stations and other platforms for assement

BLUEFOR trackers and IFF tech is in wide service with the SANDF

agaugust:


[s]Most of SANDF budget is spent on soldiers salaries and HIV anti-retroviral drugs for 30 battalions of living-dead zombie soldiers of RSA.[/s]

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Not even worth responding to

agaugust:




After you southies post citation that ATR-42 uses SeaSpray radar. Then I will immediately post my own range proof....407 km
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Thats not how it works.

Post your citation to back up your claim.

agaugust:


[s]Make counter-arguments and stop crossing out or striking through other people's comments at random like a M0R0N.

No wonder you got banned yesterday for trolling.[/s]

Read his post
Understand what he is saying
Respond accordingly

agaugust:


[s]Good job, also arrest South African government officials who bribed FIFA to give RSA 2010 world cup hosting which you did NOT deserve[/s]
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No proof it was a bribe.

In the end of the day, we had a world cup, and we pulled it off flawlessly.

With regards to the war criminal, he forgot he is coming to a free country

agaugust:


LOL.....you that thinks satellite does not move off a target's longitude, you think satellite freezes on on spot for hours

Your BSc should be withdrawn
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Satellite is just one platform in the vast stable of SANDF ISTAR platforms

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Patchesagain:


We want to arrest Bashir because he is a fvcking war-criminal

"Sudanese dictator snubs South African court and leaves the country

Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir has left South Africa, a Sudan minister said on Monday, defying a Pretoria court order for him to remain in the country until it ruled on an application for his arrest.

Bashir, who was attending an African Union summit in South Africa, has been indicted by the International Criminal Court (ICC) over war crimes and crimes against humanity."

http://www.businessinsider.com/sudan-president-detained-may-be-charged-with-genocide-2015-6


Nobody in this world respects the spine-less South Africa

We all slap 50 million Southies in the face and walk away !
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JACOB ZUMA RUBS HIS MOUTH AFTER A HOT SLAP FROM SUDANESE PRESIDENT

The frigates will use their Thales Navale MRR 3D E/F-band search radars to assist the South African Air Force build up a comprehensive air picture over each stadium and its environs. The SAAF is tasked with maintaining a 50km “no-fly” zone around each stadium on match days. The ships can transmit their radar-pictures real-time to the Air Force Command Post in Pretoria or to Gripen fighters tasked with intercepting aircraft intruding into these areas using Link ZA *2.
http://www.armsdeal-vpo.co.za/articles15/world_cup.html

The locally developed Impi tactical modem is fast gaining acceptance within the South African National Defence Force (SANDF) as a cost-effective blue-force tracker, already in use by members of the Special Forces and the South African Air Force (SAAF).

Impi has been integrated into the Chaka tactical C2 (Command & Control) support software which, according to Cobus Valentine, the Command & Control specialist at Saab Grintek Defence, is the only tool currently used by the SANDF to provide ‘jointness.’

“A Parachute Action Group was flown from Waterkloof onboard a SAAF C-130. The aircraft was tracked as well as the Special Forces members aboard the aircraft. They then jumped over the submarine and while they jumped, the parachutists were tracked. Only when they went under the water did we lose the track, but as soon as they popped up from the water, the track was transmitting again,” Valentine recalled.
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?Itemid=105&catid=50:Land&id=36095:saabs-impi-effectively-tracking-blue-forces-&option=com_content&view=article


One practical application of Link ZA is as catalyst for the SA Air Force’s BAE Systems Mk 120 Hawk LIFT radar-simulation system (RSS), which uses a radio-frequency network established among as many as eight aircraft engaged in an exercise. Each aircraft constantly transmits its position via a Link ZA datalink, and each aircraft's mission computer calculates the positions of the other aircraft relative to itself. That picture is displayed as a real-time radar image on one of each pilot’s three multifunction displays (MFD).
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6184

Do you want more about linkZA in operational use?

agaugust:
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[s]"Sudanese dictator snubs South African court and leaves the country

Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir has left South Africa, a Sudan minister said on Monday, defying a Pretoria court order for him to remain in the country until it ruled on an application for his arrest.

Bashir, who was attending an African Union summit in South Africa, has been indicted by the International Criminal Court (ICC) over war crimes and crimes against humanity."

http://www.businessinsider.com/sudan-president-detained-may-be-charged-with-genocide-2015-6


Nobody in this world respects the spine-less South Africa

We all slap 50 million Southies in the face and walk away !
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JACOB ZUMA RUBS HIS MOUTH AFTER A SLAP FROM SUDANESE PRESIDENT [/s]

And so?

We chased him out of our country.

We have shown the world that we do not accept warcriminals in our land.

The SELEX Galileo airborne tactical observation and surveillance (ATOS) mission system is installed with four interchangeable strategic operator stations to simplify the operations. It includes three sensors including an electro-optical turret FLIR system Star Safire HD, AESA SELEX Galileo Sea Spray 7000E search radar and an ESM (Electronic Support Measures) sensor from Elettronica.
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/atr-72-mp-maritime-patrol-aircraft/

Now that we have shown that it uses sea-spray radar

Provide a link for 400km range of ATR42 radar.

Thank you.

Patchesagain:
The SELEX Galileo airborne tactical observation and surveillance (ATOS) mission system is installed with four interchangeable strategic operator stations to simplify the operations. It includes three sensors including an electro-optical turret FLIR system Star Safire HD, AESA SELEX Galileo Sea Spray 7000E search radar and an ESM (Electronic Support Measures) sensor from Elettronica.
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/atr-72-mp-maritime-patrol-aircraft/

Now that we have shown that it uses sea-spray radar

Provide a link for 400km range of ATR42 radar.

Thank you.

bloody liar

there are different variants of ATR and what yoh have shown is ATR 72. not 42-500 which is what Nigeria operates.

this is the spec. for our version. you bloody liar

The ATOS, designed and built by Selex ES, a Finmeccanica company, includes two operator stations and manages a sensor suite which comprises multi-mode radar, electro-optical IR turret, color and b/w cameras, Automatic Identification System (AIS), Direction Finder (DF) and video recording equipment. With its modular architecture, the ATOS allows the entire surveillance system to be easily tailored to specific customer requirements, for instance by integrating Electronic Support Measures (ESM) or other subsystems and sensors.

http://www.aleniaaermacchi.it/products-prodotti/advanced-surveillance-sorveglianza-avanzata/atr-42mp-1

sometime last year, Nigeria upgraded and added more features to anable it being used for land operations. and it did well.

you can't deny seeing the videos and pics. evem though we know you will lie that you didn't
you need to stop being decietful just to score cheap points on an internet forum. bloody liar

you think everyone on this forum has a south african dull brain?

agaugust:
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"Sudanese dictator snubs South African court and leaves the country

Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir has left South Africa, a Sudan minister said on Monday, defying a Pretoria court order for him to remain in the country until it ruled on an application for his arrest.

Bashir, who was attending an African Union summit in South Africa, has been indicted by the International Criminal Court (ICC) over war crimes and crimes against humanity."

http://www.businessinsider.com/sudan-president-detained-may-be-charged-with-genocide-2015-6


Nobody in this world respects the spine-less South Africa

We all slap 50 million Southies in the face and walk away !
.
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JACOB ZUMA RUBS HIS MOUTH AFTER A SLAP FROM SUDANESE PRESIDENT

Do you mean like this? bwahahahaah…

MikeCZAR:
Because an aircraft without radar can be used.

You mentioned UAVs last week.

mumu ill1terate zomb1e... how can you do ISTAR without RADAR? i mentioned UK Watchkeeper uav which has the I-Master synthetic aperture radAr and ground (SAR) moving target indicator(GMTI). Do you even know what surveilance radar is? zomb1e you think when yo have gopro camera then you automatically have istar... south african illitera.te, keep receiving free education from NIgerians, you want to use radarless hawk for istar. you think istar is just to take pictures

FighterPilot:


Do you mean like this? bwahahahaah…

#Dullard

Patchesagain:

And so?
We chased him out of our country.
We have shown the world that we do not accept warcriminals in our land.

LAME

Patchesagain:
The frigates will use their Thales Navale MRR 3D E/F-band search radars to assist the South African Air Force build up a comprehensive air picture over each stadium and its environs. The SAAF is tasked with maintaining a 50km “no-fly” zone around each stadium on match days. The ships can transmit their radar-pictures real-time to the Air Force Command Post in Pretoria or to Gripen fighters tasked with intercepting aircraft intruding into these areas using Link ZA *2.
http://www.armsdeal-vpo.co.za/articles15/world_cup.html

The locally developed Impi tactical modem is fast gaining acceptance within the South African National Defence Force (SANDF) as a cost-effective blue-force tracker, already in use by members of the Special Forces and the South African Air Force (SAAF).

Impi has been integrated into the Chaka tactical C2 (Command & Control) support software which, according to Cobus Valentine, the Command & Control specialist at Saab Grintek Defence, is the only tool currently used by the SANDF to provide ‘jointness.’

“A Parachute Action Group was flown from Waterkloof onboard a SAAF C-130. The aircraft was tracked as well as the Special Forces members aboard the aircraft. They then jumped over the submarine and while they jumped, the parachutists were tracked. Only when they went under the water did we lose the track, but as soon as they popped up from the water, the track was transmitting again,” Valentine recalled.
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?Itemid=105&catid=50:Land&id=36095:saabs-impi-effectively-tracking-blue-forces-&option=com_content&view=article


One practical application of Link ZA is as catalyst for the SA Air Force’s BAE Systems Mk 120 Hawk LIFT radar-simulation system (RSS), which uses a radio-frequency network established among as many as eight aircraft engaged in an exercise. Each aircraft constantly transmits its position via a Link ZA datalink, and each aircraft's mission computer calculates the positions of the other aircraft relative to itself. That picture is displayed as a real-time radar image on one of each pilot’s three multifunction displays (MFD).
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6184

Do you want more about linkZA in operational use?

It operates ONLY on Valour frigates, Submarines, and Hawk jets. Not all other equipment that exist in SANDF.

Also NOTHING shows that SANDF has it for the army, only some navy vessels and air force aircraft.

The claim made here was that ALL equipment in South African military including artillery and vehicles have Link.ZA data-link, that is FALSE !

Nothing special anyway, NAF was doing real time data-link of Boko Haram combat situational awareness, command and control from Sambisa forest and other battle zones directly in real time video display 700 km away to Abuja military HQ command centre.

Also, your data-link has NEVER been tested in combat or war, the World Cup is a sporting event for football fans
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stillchris:


bloody liar

there are different variants of ATR and what yoh have shown is ATR 72. not 42-500 which is what Nigeria operates.

this is the spec. for our version. you bloody liar

Bros you know South Africa is suffering from ISTAR hunger, thirst, famine, and starvation.

50 million South Africans have NEVER seen a dedicated ISTAR aircraft in their country's history, so they will call ATR-72 an ATR-42.

Let's not blame them, it's due to total ISTAR backwardness in the whole nation of South Africa

Patchesagain:


And so?

We chased him out of our country.

We have shown the world that we do not accept warcriminals in our land.

Bwahahaaaha

Liar Lair Liar Liar !!!!!!!!

You did NOT chase away Bashir, you wanted to capture him and show the world some bravado...

Patchesagain:


We want to arrest Bashir because he is a fvcking war-criminal

South Africa wanted to show big power, your court judge ordered the Sudanese leader's arrest, he snubbed your law in your own face in your own country, he slapped J.acob Zum.a in the mouth and walked to Pretoria airport, boarded aircraft, flew out and 50 million South African people, your judiciary, police, president, parliament, and law enforcement agents could not effect a South African court order of arrest inside South African territory

.....YOUR BONE-LESS COUNTRY WILL NEVER LEAD AFRICA.....COWARDS, everybody slaps South Africa in the mouth
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Patchesagain:


The SELEX Galileo airborne tactical observation and surveillance (ATOS) mission system is installed with four interchangeable strategic operator stations to simplify the operations. It includes three sensors including an electro-optical turret FLIR system Star Safire HD, AESA SELEX Galileo Sea Spray 7000E search radar and an ESM (Electronic Support Measures) sensor from Elettronica.


[size=13pt]http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/atr-72-mp-maritime-patrol-aircraft/[/size]

Now that we have shown that it uses sea-spray radar

Provide a link for 400km range of ATR42 radar.

Thank you.

LooooooooooL

OMG ! My sides ! My sides are spinning in orbit.....rib cracker laughter !

Patches posted ATR-72 radar and called it ATR-42 Surveyor

This guy knows NOTHING ! He cannot even use google to make searches that 12 year old kids can do.

Now go back again, first pray to God to open your blocked brain, find ATR-42 radar name and post the source to prove your claim that it uses Sea Spray Radar....we are all waiting

#Self-Trap

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with our atr-42 positioned at the far east and far west we can detect any vessel in all of the gulf of guinea,.. then we vector in 3 frigate, 4 corvette, 2 stealth opv and 9 missile boats plus air cover from our world class airforce. south african marine department does not even come close

agaugust:


It operates ONLY on Valour frigates, Submarines, and Hawk jets. Not all other equipment that exist in SANDF.

Also NOTHING shows that SANDF has it for the army, only some navy vessels and air force aircraft.

The claim made here was that ALL equipment in South African military including artillery and vehicles have Link.ZA data-link, that is FALSE !

Nothing special anyway, NAF was doing real time data-link of Boko Haram combat situational awareness, command and control from Sambisa forest and other battle zones directly in real time video display 700 km away to Abuja military HQ command centre.

Also, your data-link has NEVER been tested in combat or war, the World Cup is a sporting event for football fans
.

Stop changing the confines of the argument - you wanted operational info about linkza now you have it

GBADS iron an intergrated datalink, new datalink compliant radios are being rolled out and ground based radar systems are datalink compliant same goes for the Impi bluefor trackers, artillery using the link has been posted many times

All your ATRs are doing is streaming a video feed - SABC does that

You have been vanquished again!

agaugust:


Bros you know South Africa is suffering from ISTAR hunger, thirst, famine, and starvation.

50 million South Africans have NEVER seen a dedicated ISTAR aircraft in their country's history, so they will call ATR-72 an ATR-42.

Let's not blame them, it's due to total ISTAR backwardness in the whole nation of South Africa

ATR is not a dedicated ISTAR platform - it's an MPA

agaugust:


Bwahahaaaha

Liar Lair Liar Liar !!!!!!!!

You did NOT chase away Bashir, you wanted to capture him and show the world some bravado...




South Africa wanted to show big power, your court judge ordered the Sudanese leader's arrest, he snubbed your law in your own face in your own country, he slapped J.acob Zum.a in the mouth and walked to Pretoria airport, boarded aircraft, flew out and 50 million South African people, your judiciary, police, president, parliament, and law enforcement agents could not effect a South African court order of arrest inside South African territory

.....YOUR BONE-LESS COUNTRY WILL NEVER LEAD AFRICA.....COWARDS, everybody slaps South Africa in the mouth
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agaugust:



LooooooooooL

OMG ! My sides ! My sides are spinning in orbit.....rib cracker laughter !

Patches posted ATR-72 radar and called it ATR-42 Surveyor

This guy knows NOTHING ! He cannot even use google to make searches that 12 year old kids can do.

Now go back again, first pray to God to open your blocked brain, find ATR-42 radar name and post the source to prove your claim that it uses Sea Spray Radar....we are all waiting

#Self-Trap

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Seaspray is used on both platforms
http://www.selex-es.com/documents/737448/24128094/body_pressback_aesa_family_radar_es.pdf

If you had read the link you would know this

Now, ATR 400km range please