Patchesagain:


All your ATRs are doing is streaming a video feed - SABC does that

ATR-42 has it's own data-link inbuilt, that's a military grade tech.

You have only knowledge of MTV and MNET movie transmission on cable TV.....that's all you ever know.

Mumu

Patchesagain:


ATR is not a dedicated ISTAR platform - it's an MPA

What is in ISTAR that ATR-42 cannot do ? Tell us
.

Patchesagain:


Augustus

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Thanks, the story says "South Africa wanted to show big power, your court judge ordered the Sudanese leader's arrest, he snubbed your law in your own face in your own country, he slapped J.acob Zum.a in the mouth and walked to Pretoria airport, boarded aircraft, flew out and 50 million South African people, your judiciary, police, president, parliament, and law enforcement agents could not effect a South African court order of arrest inside South African territory."

Patchesagain:


Seaspray is used on both platforms

http://www.selex-es.com/documents/737448/24128094/body_pressback_aesa_family_radar_es.pdf

If you had read the link you would know this

Now, ATR 400km range please

Nope, your source does NOT say ATR-42 uses Sea Spray Radar, quote where it says so you fraud !

#Triple-Trap
.

agaugust:

What is in ISTAR that ATR-42 cannot do ? Tell us .

IT CANNOT INTEGRATE WITH OTHER PLATFORMS.

Your ATR42 is just a wasteful expenditure just take it as such and move on.

agaugust:


It operates ONLY on Valour frigates, Submarines, and Hawk jets. Not all other equipment that exist in SANDF.

Also NOTHING shows that SANDF has it for the army, only some navy vessels and air force aircraft.

The claim made here was that ALL equipment in South African military including artillery and vehicles have Link.ZA data-link, that is FALSE !

Nothing special anyway, NAF was doing real time data-link of Boko Haram combat situational awareness, command and control from Sambisa forest and other battle zones directly in real time video display 700 km away to Abuja military HQ command centre.

Also, your data-link has NEVER been tested in combat or war, the World Cup is a sporting event for football fans
.

All of that was in 2010 and as in 2015 it was mandatory for all SANDF equipments to be integrated on the system including the army's ISTAR cytoons. The LINK- ZA continues to evolve beyond expectation.

Tactical data link is not a weapon that will need to be tested in a battle in order to convince prospective buyers. It is just a mere communication network. Your insinuation is tantamount of asking someone if a certain television will work during war or not. Well but that was only an example. Data link does not need to be battle tested because it is just purely a communication network that integrate all the military platforms to work as a unit. I didn't expect such a low, layperson attitude out of you, because you always pretend to know a lot. You see, Google will never teach you everything about military hardwares, rather you will need to go to school.

Henry120:


Fighterpilot's comments are always disgraceful! For a person who claims to work for the SAAF, i don't need to look further to see why they only have 9 Gripen Pilots after 16 years.

Bwahahahahaa… what an impudence!!! an utter ignorance exhibited by my fellow Nigerian. You are such a black tire and next time you must make a concise research before you think of putting your dirty fingers on that keyboard.

SANDF received their first batch of gripens in 2010 and this year is 2015. So, tell me since when is 2015-2010=16 years, well perhaps that will be the answer in Nigerian mathematics.


Read this and stop fooling yourself around.

http://www.pilotspost.co.za/arn0000089

FighterPilot:



Bwahahahahaa… what an impudence!!! an utter ignorance exhibited by my fellow Nigerian. You are such a black tire and next time you must make a concise research before you think of putting your dirty fingers on that keyboard.

SANDF received their first batch of gripens in 2010 and this year is 2015. So, tell me since when is 2015-2010=16 years, well perhaps that will be the answer in Nigerian mathematics.


Read this and stop fooling yourself around.

http://www.pilotspost.co.za/arn0000089

Dullard

where in that fantacised article does it say you have more than 9 pilots?

dumb he-goat

stillchris:


Dullard

where in that fantacised article does it say you have more than 9 pilots?

dumb he-goat

Look at this handicapped man, so if you count those fighter pilots on the image, they make the sum of nine isn't? Those are not even the total of SANDF fighter pilots.

agaugust:


ATR-42 has it's own data-link inbuilt, that's a military grade tech.

You have only knowledge of MTV and MNET movie transmission on cable TV.....that's all you ever know.

Mumu

SABC and Mnet do what your ATR does

Can the Nigerian military do what the SANDF does?

NO!

Case closed

agaugust:


What is in ISTAR that ATR-42 cannot do ? Tell us
.

It is a Maritime Patrol Aircraft

agaugust:


[s]Thanks, the story says "South Africa wanted to show big power, your court judge ordered the Sudanese leader's arrest, he snubbed your law in your own face in your own country, he slapped J.acob Zum.a in the mouth and walked to Pretoria airport, boarded aircraft, flew out and 50 million South African people, your judiciary, police, president, parliament, and law enforcement agents could not effect a South African court order of arrest inside South African territory."[/s]

That is not what happened

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8 SOUTH AFRICAN GRIPEN PILOTS TOOK PART IN EXERCISE LION EFFORT 2012 HELD IN SWEDEN

-We sent ALL our Gripen pilots to Sweden that year? Not one single Gripen pilot on South African soil for a number of weeks?

-OR we only left ONE Gripen pilot at home in 2 Squadron to operate and guard against any domestic/regional unforseen threat?

-How did 8 Gripen pilots go to Sweden in 2012 when f00ls on here were insisting we only had "6 Gripen pilots fact!" at that time?

-Your numbers then were wrong, what makes you think they are right now?

Let these M0RONS keep believing we only have 9 Gripen pilots. Infact let them think we only have 3. The more uninformed they are, the better.

agaugust:


Nope, your source does NOT say ATR-42 uses Sea Spray Radar, quote where it says so you fraud !

#Triple-Trap
.

Seaspray 7000E, at less than 80kg, is the mid range Seaspray radar system. It is the
direct successor to the many hundreds of previous generation technology Seaspray radar
systems that are in service world-wide, and is appropriate to medium naval helicopters and
Maritime Patrol Aircraft (MPA) such as the AgustaWestland AW159 and Alenia Aeronautica
ATR 42 and 72, or other platforms. Seaspray 7000E is in service, in production and under
contract on a range of programmes for platforms including AW159 and SH-3D naval
helicopters and Beechcraft 200, King Air 350, CASA CN235, Fokker F27 and Alenia
Aermacchi ATR72 MPA

http://www.selex-es.com/documents/737448/24128094/body_pressback_aesa_family_radar_es.pdf

So, by the wording we see in the artical - a new sea-spray has been released, and it replaces the old seasprays in use with platforms such as the ATR42


So, either:

1. You are only semi-literate
2. You are a lair

Which is it?


Also, the ATOS system has the Seaspray as a fundimental part of it,
http://www.selex-es.com/documents/737448/18917854/body_mm07800_ATOS_LQ_.pdf

Now, 400km radar range citation please

stillchris:


Dullard

where in that fantacised article does it say you have more than 9 pilots?

dumb he-goat

uhh... the picture of more than 9 pilots sitting for their pre-flight Briefing?

Patchesagain:


uhh... the picture of more than 9 pilots sitting for their pre-flight Briefing?

uhh... ground crew/navigators don't sit for briefings too?

FighterPilot:


Look at this handicapped man, so if you count those fighter pilots on the image, they make the sum of nine isn't? Those are not even the total of SANDF fighter pilots.

dumb he-goat.

hawks pilots

ground crew/navigators

no where in that article does it say you have more than 9 gripen pilots

Patchesagain:

It is a Maritime Patrol Aircraft

it has been upgraded for land surveillance last year in UK.

stillchris:

uhh... ground crews/navigators don't sit for briefings too?

Bwahaha… since when do ground crews wear pilot gears?

FighterPilot:


Bwahaha… since when do ground crews wear pilot gears?

dumb he-goat

only those seated at the first two rows

and you did read where he mentioned HAWKS pilots didn't you.

Dullard

thought your initial question was crew attending briefings too

agaugust:


Thanks, the story says "South Africa wanted to show big power, your court judge ordered the Sudanese leader's arrest, he snubbed your law in your own face in your own country, he slapped J.acob Zum.a in the mouth and walked to Pretoria airport, boarded aircraft, flew out and 50 million South African people, your judiciary, police, president, parliament, and law enforcement agents could not effect a South African court order of arrest inside South African territory."

I am personally happy that Sudanese President was not arrested. All South Africans are happy for that move.


South Africa is not a puppet of the imperialist called ICC. That's all. Let African problems be solved by Africans. The ICC is just a western machine used to prosecute only Africans when the atrocious mongers like George Bush and Tony Blair are left to scot free.

stillchris:


dumb he-goat

only those seated at the first two rows

and you did read where he mentioned HAWKS pilots didn't you.

Dullard

thought your initial question was crew attending briefings too

Only those sitting where? Bwahahahaa… look at this black tire. Stop making a joke of yourself. Gripens and Hawks are now made to operate same avionics so as to enable pilots to fly the same platforms. The pilots can fly the same platforms interchangeably depending on their hours.

FighterPilot:



Only those sitting where? Bwahahahaa… look at this black tire. Stop making a joke of yourself. Gripens and Hawks are now made to operate same avionics so as to enable pilots to fly the same platforms. The pilots can fly the same platforms interchangeably depending on their hours.

Huh see excuse of life

Is there an end to your dumbness? Or you just gonna keep talking without proving sh1t?

I hope you know you are not taken seriously on this thread due to your challenges

Dullard.

Still no proof you have more gripen pilots

FighterPilot:



South Africa is not a puppet of the imperialist called ICC. That's all. Let African problems be solved by Africans. The ICC is just a western machine used to prosecute only Africans when the atrocious mongers like George Bush and Tony Blair are left to scot free.

Bal bla bla bal bla......

Yet the puppet tries to fulfill it's masters wish to look like a good boy.

Even patches claimed you were trying to hand him over.

FighterPilot:



Only those sitting where? Bwahahahaa… look at this black tire. Stop making a joke of yourself. Gripens and Hawks are now made to operate same avionics so as to enable pilots to fly the same platforms. The pilots can fly the same platforms interchangeably depending on their hours.

There is no evidence you have more than 9 Pilots.

FighterPilot:



Only those sitting where? Bwahahahaa… look at this black tire. Stop making a joke of yourself. Gripens and Hawks are now made to operate same avionics so as to enable pilots to fly the same platforms. The pilots can fly the same platforms interchangeably depending on their hours.

The 9 Gripen Pilots can also fly the hawk. Hawk pilots who haven't been trained on the Gripen cannot fly the Gripen.


SAAF only has 9 Gripen Pilots.

Henry120:


The 9 Gripen Pilots can also fly the hawk. Hawk pilots who haven't been trained on the Gripen cannot fly the Gripen.


SAAF only has 9 Gripen Pilots.

The guy is an imbec1le if he thinks hawks pilots can fly the grpen

ssaengine:
8 SOUTH AFRICAN GRIPEN PILOTS TOOK PART IN EXERCISE LION EFFORT 2012 HELD IN SWEDEN

-We sent ALL our Gripen pilots to Sweden that year? Not one single Gripen pilot on South African soil for a number of weeks?

-OR we only left ONE Gripen pilot at home in 2 Squadron to operate and guard against any domestic/regional unforseen threat?

-How did 8 Gripen pilots go to Sweden in 2012 when f00ls on here were insisting we only had "6 Gripen pilots fact!" at that time?

-Your numbers then were wrong, what makes you think they are right now?

Let these M0RONS keep believing we only have 9 Gripen pilots. Infact let them think we only have 3. The more uninformed they are, the better.

As at that time dummy, you only had 6 qualified Gripen pilots.

Yes, you only have 9 Gripen Pilots. We aren't bothered, it is SAAF which has to deal with a severe pilot shortage.

stillchris:


The guy is an imbec1le if he thinks hawks pilots can fly the grpen

Fighterpilot is suffering from down syndrome.

Henry120:


The 9 Gripen Pilots can also fly the hawk. Hawk pilots who haven't been trained on the Gripen cannot fly the Gripen.


SAAF only has 9 Gripen Pilots.

SA hawks have avionics that simulate those of gripens. It is a very easy task for pilots to cross floor to other platform like gripens and that's what they do from time to time.

Henry120:

Fighterpilot is suffering from down syndrome.

I didn't know the truth will offend you that much.

The gripens were first introduced in SA airspace in 2010. This is contrary to what the slowpoke Henry insinuated by suggesting that gripens have 16 years in SA.