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Re: Its Obvious That Muhammad Exist In Bible by Scholar8200(m): 4:59pm On Jun 18, 2015 |
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Re: Its Obvious That Muhammad Exist In Bible by malvisguy212: 7:21pm On Jun 18, 2015 |
CryptDarpick:are you not interlingent? Ishmael was the half brother of Isaac, muhammed cannot be descendant of both, IMPOSSIBLE, ishmael was an Arab and Isaac was a Jew. The different is soo clear. If a name is soppose to be omitted, it got to be Isaac because ishmael was his senior, but the quran and bible omitted ishmael, why? Because the covenant of prophethood is to come from Isaac ALONE. If the verse you claimed was talking about only the children of isreal, then you are wrong, soo wrong because; Surah 45:16: And verily We gave the Children of Israel the Scripture and the Command and the Prophethood, and provided them with good things and favoured them above ALL PEOPLE. (Pickthall) Surah 2:47: “O Children of Israel! Remember My favour wherewith I favoured you and how I preferred you to (ALL) CREATURES.” (Pickthall) Is this verse talking about only the children of isreal or ALL PEOPLE? Clearly written, Allah favour the children of isreal to all other creatures. All true prophets of God must establish who they are. Every single one of the true prophets who were descendants of Isaac and Jacob came from families who were already worshippers of the true God. They all worshipped the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. As for Muhammad, his parents were Arab pagans and so were his grandparents. Additionally, Muhammad himself was a pagan until the time of his alleged “calling as a prophet” by Allah. Is it not strange that after choosing every single one of His prophets from families who were already true believers, God would now choose a pagan worshipper who came from a pagan family as his prophet? We do not think so. That is why it should not surprise us to find many pagan rituals in the religion of Islam. Muhammad incorporated them into the religion of Allah. Therefore, to accept Islam is to accept paganism and its lone stone-kissing prophet. And as the Qur’an itself testifies clearly in Surah 29:27, Muhammad simply cannot be a prophet of the true God. Galatians 4:22-28: It is written that ABRAHAM acquired TWO SONS, one by the slave woman and one by the free woman; but the one by the slave woman was actually born in the manner of flesh, the other by the free woman through a promise…Now WE, brothers, are children belonging to the PROMISE THE SAME AS ISAAC WAS. Peace! |
Re: Its Obvious That Muhammad Exist In Bible by Nobody: 7:47pm On Jun 18, 2015 |
malvisguy212:And what verse in the quran says that covenant of prophethood is to come through isaac alone? If the verse you claimed was talking about only the children of isreal, then you are wrong, soo wrong because;Yes, that verse was speaking about jews. And here its simple, favour here refers to the fact that the jews have had more prophets than any other people, thats the favour. All true prophets of God must establishRecycling your pagan rubbish alone, lol! Muhammad was never a pagan. And Tell me, who did abrahams father worship? I think you read. Y topic about your pagan claims, but just for the sake of recycling you're bring it up again. Galatians 4:22-28: It is written that Lol! Just read the rubbish you wrote above. Clown |
Re: Its Obvious That Muhammad Exist In Bible by malvisguy212: 9:20pm On Jun 18, 2015 |
CryptDarpick:the covenant begins with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Terah Abraham father worship other God this was not a problem because the covenant begins with Abraham, Genesis 12:1-3 give details how Abraham was called. that is were it began. God did not recognised terah in his covenant. The quranic verse I post was clear, allah favour the Jew among ALL people, but if you want to keep on deceiving your self, muslims who are viewing , I pray God will open there mind. and why did you deactivate your other account Abuman? 1 Like |
Re: Its Obvious That Muhammad Exist In Bible by Nobody: 10:38pm On Jun 18, 2015 |
malvisguy212:So think about it this way, the covenant continued through ishmael but after him, the people lost touch and guidance. Think of it as what happened to Abraham repeating it self. The quranic verse I post was clear, allah favour the Jew among ALL people, but if you want to keep on deceiving your self, muslims who are viewing , I pray God will open there mind.Everyone knows the jews were favored over all, theyve had more prophets, witnessed more miracles, received the first fully detailed law, It is not wonder that after all these blessings bestowed by God on the Children of Israel that Moses tells them: “Recall that Moses said to his people, "O my people, remember God's blessings upon you: He appointed prophets among you, made you kings, and granted you what He never granted any other people.” 5:20 and why did you deactivate your other account Abuman?Wrong guess. |
Re: Its Obvious That Muhammad Exist In Bible by Scholar8200(m): 8:38am On Jun 19, 2015 |
CryptDarpick:Note, God expressedly said to Isaac that he was the sole (of all Abraham's biological offspring) beneficiary of the Oath/Covenant. Hence the covenant did not continue through Ishmael or Midian or any other. |
Re: Its Obvious That Muhammad Exist In Bible by Nobody: 9:05am On Jun 19, 2015 |
Scholar8200: Note, God blessed Ishmael as well, and through his bloodline the last and most beloved of all prophets was begotten. |
Re: Its Obvious That Muhammad Exist In Bible by Scholar8200(m): 9:11am On Jun 19, 2015 |
CryptDarpick:The blessing to Ishmael made no mention of a seed by whom ALL nations would be blessed! This was only in the promise/Oath to Abraham through Isaac till Jesus Christ came! |
Re: Its Obvious That Muhammad Exist In Bible by Nobody: 11:45am On Jun 19, 2015 |
Scholar8200: I guess we'll agree to disagree. |
Re: Its Obvious That Muhammad Exist In Bible by unphilaz(m): 6:21am On Jun 21, 2015 |
alansary0064: Is Mohammed spirit or mere man? |
Re: Its Obvious That Muhammad Exist In Bible by Nobody: 7:10am On Jun 21, 2015 |
Sahih International And if they deny you, [O Muhammad] - already were messengers denied before you. And to Allah are returned [all] matters. 35:5 Sahih International O mankind, indeed the promise of Allah is truth, so let not the worldly life delude you and be not deceived about Allah by the Deceiver. Sahih International Indeed, Satan is an enemy to you; so take him as an enemy. He only invites his party to be among the companions of the Blaze. 35:7 Sahih International Those who disbelieve will have a severe punishment, and those who believe and do righteous deeds will have forgiveness and great reward. 35:8 Sahih International Then is one to whom the evil of his deed has been made attractive so he considers it good [like one rightly guided]? For indeed, Allah sends astray whom He wills and guides whom He wills. So do not let yourself perish over them in regret. Indeed, Allah is Knowing of what they do. |
Re: Its Obvious That Muhammad Exist In Bible by Nobody: 7:18am On Jun 21, 2015 |
Sahih International [All] praise is [due] to Allah , who created the heavens and the earth and made the darkness and the light. Then those who disbelieve equate [others] with their Lord. 6:2 to top Sahih International It is He who created you from clay and then decreed a term and a specified time [known] to Him; then [still] you are in dispute. 6:3 to top Sahih International And He is Allah , [the only deity] in the heavens and the earth. He knows your secret and what you make public, and He knows that which you earn. 6:4 to top Sahih International And no sign comes to them from the signs of their Lord except that they turn away therefrom. 6:5 to top Sahih International For they had denied the truth when it came to them, but there is going to reach them the news of what they used to ridicule. 6:6 to top Sahih International Have they not seen how many generations We destroyed before them which We had established upon the earth as We have not established you? And We sent [rain from] the sky upon them in showers and made rivers flow beneath them; then We destroyed them for their sins and brought forth after them a generation of others. 6:7 to top Sahih International And even if We had sent down to you, [O Muhammad], a written scripture on a page and they touched it with their hands, the disbelievers would say, "This is not but obvious magic." 6:8 to top Sahih International And they say, "Why was there not sent down to him an angel?" But if We had sent down an angel, the matter would have been decided; then they would not be reprieved. 6:9 to top Sahih International And if We had made him an angel, We would have made him [appear as] a man, and We would have covered them with that in which they cover themselves. 6:10 to top Sahih International And already were messengers ridiculed before you, but those who mocked them were enveloped by that which they used to ridicule. 6:11 to top Sahih International Say, "Travel through the land; then observe how was the end of the deniers." 6:12 to top Sahih International Say, "To whom belongs whatever is in the heavens and earth?" Say, "To Allah ." He has decreed upon Himself mercy. He will surely assemble you for the Day of Resurrection, about which there is no doubt. Those who will lose themselves [that Day] do not believe. 6:13 to top Sahih International And to Him belongs that which reposes by night and by day, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing. 6:14 to top Sahih International Say, "Is it other than Allah I should take as a protector, Creator of the heavens and the earth, while it is He who feeds and is not fed?" Say, [O Muhammad], "Indeed, I have been commanded to be the first [among you] who submit [to Allah ] and [was commanded], 'Do not ever be of the polytheists.' " 6:15 to top Sahih International Say, "Indeed I fear, if I should disobey my Lord, the punishment of a tremendous Day." 6:16 to top Sahih International He from whom it is averted that Day - [ Allah ] has granted him mercy. And that is the clear attainment. 6:17 to top Sahih International And if Allah should touch you with adversity, there is no remover of it except Him. And if He touches you with good - then He is over all things competent. 6:18 to top Sahih International And He is the subjugator over His servants. And He is the Wise, the Acquainted [with all]. 6:19 to top Sahih International Say, "What thing is greatest in testimony?" Say, " Allah is witness between me and you. And this Qur'an was revealed to me that I may warn you thereby and whomever it reaches. Do you [truly] testify that with Allah there are other deities?" Say, "I will not testify [with you]." Say, "Indeed, He is but one God, and indeed, I am free of what you associate [with Him]." 6:20 to top Sahih International Those to whom We have given the Scripture recognize it as they recognize their [own] sons. Those who will lose themselves [in the Hereafter] do not believe. 6:21 to top Sahih International And who is more unjust than one who invents about Allah a lie or denies His verses? Indeed, the wrongdoers will not succeed. 6:22 to top Sahih International And [mention, O Muhammad], the Day We will gather them all together; then We will say to those who associated others with Allah , "Where are your 'partners' that you used to claim [with Him]?" 6:23 to top Sahih International Then there will be no [excuse upon] examination except they will say, "By Allah , our Lord, we were not those who associated." 6:24 to top Sahih International See how they will lie about themselves. And lost from them will be what they used to invent. 6:25 to top Sahih International And among them are those who listen to you, but We have placed over their hearts coverings, lest they understand it, and in their ears deafness. And if they should see every sign, they will not believe in it. Even when they come to you arguing with you, those who disbelieve say, "This is not but legends of the former peoples." 6:26 to top Sahih International And they prevent [others] from him and are [themselves] remote from him. And they do not destroy except themselves, but they perceive [it] not. 6:27 to top Sahih International If you could but see when they are made to stand before the Fire and will say, "Oh, would that we could be returned [to life on earth] and not deny the signs of our Lord and be among the believers." 6:28 to top Sahih International But what they concealed before has [now] appeared to them. And even if they were returned, they would return to that which they were forbidden; and indeed, they are liars. 6:29 to top Sahih International And they say, "There is none but our worldly life, and we will not be resurrected." 6:30 to top Sahih International If you could but see when they will be made to stand before their Lord. He will say, "Is this not the truth?" They will say, "Yes, by our Lord." He will [then] say, "So taste the punishment because you used to disbelieve." 6:31 to top Sahih International Those will have lost who deny the meeting with Allah , until when the Hour [of resurrection] comes upon them unexpectedly, they will say, "Oh, [how great is] our regret over what we neglected concerning it," while they bear their burdens on their backs. Unquestionably, evil is that which they bear. 6:32 to top Sahih International And the worldly life is not but amusement and diversion; but the home of the Hereafter is best for those who fear Allah , so will you not reason? 6:33 |
Re: Its Obvious That Muhammad Exist In Bible by unphilaz(m): 1:52pm On Jun 21, 2015 |
alansary0064: WAS/IS muhammed the al-Ruh al-Quddus or a man? |
Re: Its Obvious That Muhammad Exist In Bible by Ovacoma: 1:03pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
Hmmm, no answer! |
Re: Its Obvious That Muhammad Exist In Bible by Amujale(m): 9:14pm On Apr 16, 2020 |
Even though the proposed existence of Muhammad is highly debatable, let’s assume that the evil Arabian fundamentalists that began the Muhammadian movement did so based on a real person,:- What year was Muhammad supposedly born? What year did Muhammad supposedly die? What years are claimed as the dating of the NT of the Christian Bible? Was Muhammad a virtuous dude or a brutal military officer? |
Re: Its Obvious That Muhammad Exist In Bible by Amujale(m): 9:16pm On Apr 16, 2020 |
To associate Muhammad with the NT of the Christian Bible is to admit that the story of Muhammad is a combination of fakery and falsehood. https://www.nairaland.com/5795996/african-origin-civilisation |
Re: Its Obvious That Muhammad Exist In Bible by Amujale(m): 9:44pm On Apr 16, 2020 |
Christianity and Islam combined to form the worst ideologies ever to set foot on African soil. https://www.nairaland.com/5795996/african-origin-civilisation |
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