Whenever another suicide-bomber kills himself and
several others,
we wonder what pushed him toward murder and
suicide.


Because the terrorists have almost all been Muslims,
we are tempted to think that there must be something
about this religion
that causes its young men to want to kill themselves
in the process of ridding the world of a few more
'infidels'.


However, as is becoming more clear,
the vast majority of followers of Islam
do not approve such acts of terror.
There are probably at least 1,000 peaceful Muslims for
every violent 'Muslim'.
Thus, the answer probably does not lie in exploring the
Muslim faith,
looking for the causes of suicidal and murderous
behavior.


Rather, there must be something in the minds of these
suicide-bombers
causing them to sacrifice their own lives to kill random
strangers.
Many of their victims never gave a second thought to
Islam.

commentus later

Islam . . . does not come hand in hand with enlightenment.
When you create dogma, and you fail to provide a means to self reason, you end up with a catastrophe.

The suicide bombers believe they sacrifice theirself for allah



Afterall islam also came through war

Buh do they really sacrifices demselves for Allah, does the Quran signifies dat?

Both: the man was born innocent; the religion gives a new him a new birth into a monster by a revelation supposedly gotten by another man who is a founder of a religion to force another man to follow his religion. Man, religion; religion, man!

MightySparrow:
Both: the man was born innocent; the religion gives a new him a new birth into a monster by a revelation supposedly gotten by another man who is a founder of a religion to force another man to follow his religion. Man, religion; religion, man!

So wat ur tryna say in essence is the religion made the terrorist?

sylarsquins:

So wat ur tryna say in essence is the religion made the terrorist?

Religion + Muhammed = Terrorism

Would they have condemned the act if it was only non muslims being killed? If yes, then I will boldly say its not a religious war.

sylarsquins:
Whenever another suicide-bomber kills himself and
several others,
we wonder what pushed him toward murder and
suicide.
Because the terrorists have almost all been Muslims,
we are tempted to think that there must be something
about this religion
that causes its young men to want to kill themselves
in the process of ridding the world of a few more
'infidels'.

However, as is becoming more clear,
the vast majority of followers of Islam
do not approve such acts of terror.
There are probably at least 1,000 peaceful Muslims for
every violent 'Muslim'.
Thus, the answer probably does not lie in exploring the
Muslim faith,
looking for the causes of suicidal and murderous
behavior.
Rather, there must be something in the minds of these
suicide-bombers
causing them to sacrifice their own lives to kill random
strangers.
Many of their victims never gave a second thought to
Islam.

You are very wrong here, there are very clear verses in the quoran and hadiths that instructs muslims to fight, kill and die for the cause of allah and they are promised heavenly rewards (including 72 virgins) for committing these heinous acts. cc: parisbookaddict could you provide us with relevant verses that prove what I wrote above?

MightySparrow:



Religion + Muhammed = Terrorism

Islam is a religion of peace, or violence, depending on your location.

If I'm in saudi arabia, pakistan or Iran, and I 'insult' islam or mohammed, I will be killed.

If I'm in europe and I insult islam or mohammed, I will be scolded and muslims will only issue a verbal threats.

If I'm in the US and I insult islam or mohammed, nothing will happen because I have right to own a gun and defend myself. Besides, muslims are tiny minority.

So islamic violence is a function of place and location and can be mathematically expressed thus:

IV = F(P+L+X)

where IV = ISLAMIC VIOLENCE ( < infinity )
P = PLACE ( >0, <infinity)
L = LOCATION (>0, <infinity)
X = other variables (eg armed, unarmed, poor, rich).

Jagoon:


You are very wrong here, there are very clear verses in the quoran and hadiths that instructs muslims to fight, kill and die for the cause of allah and they are promised heavenly rewards (including 72 virgins) for committing these heinous acts. cc: parisbookaddict could you provide us with relevant verses that prove what I wrote above?

So are you saying the Quran and the Religion Islam forged the terrosist?

MightySparrow:


Religion + Muhammed = Terrorism

Do you mean this outta facts or outta ur hatred for the reigion?

sylarsquins:


So are you saying the Quran and the Religion Islam forged the terrosist?

Yes infact the first islamic terrorist was the founder of islam(mohamed) and he encouraged his followers to continue this acts of terrorism until the whole world accepts islam. They call it jihad.

Jagoon:


Yes infact the first islamic terrorist was the founder of islam(mohamed) and he encouraged his followers to continue this acts of terrorism until the whole world accepts islam. They call it jihad.

you are so desperate to comment.keep saying what you don't know dunce!

Jagoon:


You are very wrong here, there are very clear verses in the quoran and hadiths that instructs muslims to fight, kill and die for the cause of allah and they are promised heavenly rewards (including 72 virgins) for committing these heinous acts. cc: parisbookaddict could you provide us with relevant verses that prove what I wrote above?

no problem

sylarsquins:
Whenever another suicide-bomber kills himself and
several others,
we wonder what pushed him toward murder and
suicide.
Because the terrorists have almost all been Muslims,
we are tempted to think that there must be something
about this religion
that causes its young men to want to kill themselves
in the process of ridding the world of a few more
'infidels'.
However, as is becoming more clear,
the vast majority of followers of Islam
do not approve such acts of terror.
There are probably at least 1,000 peaceful Muslims for
every violent 'Muslim'.
Thus, the answer probably does not lie in exploring the
Muslim faith,
looking for the causes of suicidal and murderous
behavior.
Rather, there must be something in the minds of these
suicide-bombers
causing them to sacrifice their own lives to kill random
strangers.
Many of their victims never gave a second thought to
Islam.

Martyrdom is a bad euphemism for suicide. And as far as I know Islam
is the only religion that approves this practise.
Muslims often say that (terrorist) killings and suicide bombings are
prohibited in Islam well there is no mention of suicide bombing in the
quran, obviously, because there wasn't that method of warfare in 7th
century Arabia;
but what of the prohibition of suicide. Well, it is frowned upon unless it
is in the cause of their god, Allah.
If a muslim takes a gun and blows his head off it is suicide as we know
it and is discouraged in Islamic circles and I dare to say amongst most
circles.
However a muslim willingly dying in the process of trying to kill the kafir
(unbelievers ) and those spreading corruption in the land and in the
cause of Allah's will is not considered suicide. This is why you often hear
of sunnis blowing themselves up to kill their shi'a Muslim brothers,
churches etc.
Death in the cause of Allah's will is encouraged, supported and promoted
as well as fully endorsed in Islam. No muslim can refute this, if (s)he
does this then (s)he contradicts and disowns the quran.
Let's look at some quran verses and one or two narratives from the
hadiths, sahih muslim and sahih burhari, 2 of the most respected and
authenticated sources in Islam.
The Qur'an:
Qur'an (4:74)-"Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of
this world for the other. Whoso FIGHTETH IN THE WAY OF Allah, BE HE
SLAIN or be he victorious, on him WE SHALL BESTOW A VAST REWARD"
Qur'an (9:111)-"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and
their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they
fight in His cause, AND SLAY AND ARE SLAIN: a promise binding on Him
in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the
Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then
rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement
supreme."
Qur'an (2:207)-"And there is the type of man who GIVES HIS LIFE to
earn the pleasure of Allah..."
Qur'an (61:10-12)"O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that
will save you from a grievous Penalty? That ye believe in Allah and His
Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with
your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but
knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath
which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity:
that is indeed the Supreme Achievement."
This verse was given at the battle Uhud and uses the Arabic word, Jihad.
The dark-eyed virgins are mentioned in several places as well, including
verses 44:54 and 52:20.
For those who swing the other way, there are"perpetual
youth"verse6:17, otherwise known as"boys"verses52:24and76:19.
Qur'an (17:33)"And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden,
EXCEPT BY RIGHT"
An important verse that is used by Muslims to not only justify their own
deaths, but that of other bystanders who might be believers as well.
Like we saw 2days ago when the Muslims in Paris killed a muslim police
officer in their quest to avenge their prophet. The end justifies the
means, with the goal being the defeat of the kafir, their submission and
finally the establishment of Islamic rule.
Qur'an 3:151
Soon shall we cast TERROR into the hearts of the unbelievers, for that
they joined companion with Allah...
Mohammed was the original terrorist.
Qur'an 8:89
And fight with them until there is no more filna(disorder, unbelief) and
religion should be only for Allah
This is just a little taste of the evil commands in the quran which
encourages persecutions, intolerance and prejudice.
Now From the Hadith:
Bukhari (52:54)- The words of Muhammad:"I would love to be martyred
in Allah's Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and
then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get
resurrected again and then get martyred." This is why modern-day
Jihadists often say that they love death.
Muslim (20:4678) - During the battle of Uhud, Muhammad was desperate
to push men into battle. He promised paradise for those who would
martyr themselves, prompting a young man who was eating dates to
throw them away and rush to his death.
Muslim (20:4655) - A man asks Muhammad "which of men is the best?"
Muhammad replies that it is the man who is always ready for battle and
flies into it "seeking death at places where it can be
expected." (Tellingly perhaps, the next most saintly man in Islam is the
hermit who lives in isolation "sparing men from his mischief."
Muslim (20:4681) - "Surely, the gates of Paradise are under the
shadows of the swords." After hearing Muhammad say that martyrdom
leads to paradise, a young man pulls his sword and breaks the sheath
(indicating that he has no intention of returning) then flings himself
into battle until he is killed.
Muslim (20.4635) - "Nobody who enters Paradise will (ever like to)
return to this world even if he were offered everything on the surface
of the earth (as an inducement) except the martyr who will desire to
return to this world and be killed ten times for the sake of the great
honour that has been bestowed upon him."
Each week, there are about ten attempted suicide bombings - all by
Muslims NOT atheists, Hindus, buddists, pagans, humanists, New age .
The reason why Muslims are prone to self-detonation has nothing to do
with genetics, desperation or suicide. It is the ideology that promotes
martyrdom by promising paradise to those who lose their lives for Allah
as commanded by Mohammed
A suicide bombing is really an act of homicide. When Muslim apologists
say that Islam is against suicide bombings by pointing to the hadith that
oppose killing oneself, such as Bukhari (23:446), they are being
disingenuous and self righteous.
Muslims in the conservative and Islam dominated arab world, who are
less concerned about public relations, celebrate and revere suicide
bombers, knowing that martyrdom in battle is glorified by their religion.
As the Ayatollah Khomeini once put it, "The purest joy in Islam is to kill
and be killed for Allah."
Muhammad was quite shrewd in making suicide a crime while at the
same time painting paradise in the most prolifically morally decadent
terms - an endless Fun of sex, food, and aesthetic comfort.
The frustration of the young believer, who is convinced that such
eternal gratification lies just on the other side of death, but is
forbidden from attaining it directly by his own hand, therefore comes
to think of martyrdom as a relief - particularly if he is deprived of
these comforts in life. Given this, it's a wonder that suicide bombings
aren't more common than they are.

Jagoon:


Yes infact the first islamic terrorist was the founder of islam(mohamed) and he encouraged his followers to continue this acts of terrorism until the whole world accepts islam. They call it jihad.

Buh Jihad of old Doesn't involve the kilings of innocent people

crusadistic:
you are so desperate to comment.keep saying what you don't know dunce!

You are obviously upset the evils of your religion is being exposed.

sylarsquins:


Buh Jihad of old Doesn't involve the kilings of innocent people

Jihad in it's practical sense is the waging of "holy" war with the intention of forcing people to convert to islam and yes innocent people die in the process.

sylarsquins:


Do you mean this outta facts or outta ur hatred for the reigion?

. This is a shouting fact. Everywhere Islam is, violence is its signature. Is that hatred? Take a holiday in a typical village in Borno state for two weeks and come and write your experience on NL if you live to tell the story.

MightySparrow:
. This is a shouting fact. Everywhere Islam is, violence is its signature. Is that hatred? Take a holiday in a typical village in Borno state for two weeks and come and write your experience on NL if you live to tell the story.

Na I really aint a fan of the North, think I'll prefer. Abu. Dhabi. Wen I get bck I'll share my experience

true2god:
Islam is a religion of peace, or violence, depending on your location.

If I'm in saudi arabia, pakistan or Iran, and I 'insult' islam or mohammed, I will be killed.

If I'm in europe and I insult islam or mohammed, I will be scolded and muslims will only issue a verbal threats.

If I'm in the US and I insult islam or mohammed, nothing will happen because I have right to own a gun and defend myself. Besides, muslims are tiny minority.

So islamic violence is a function of place and location and can be mathematically expressed thus:

IV = F(P+L+X)

where IV = ISLAMIC VIOLENCE ( < infinity )
P = PLACE ( >0, <infinity)
L = LOCATION (>0, <infinity)
X = other variables (eg armed, unarmed, poor, rich).

. IV = F(P+L+X) + k where k is mandatory jihad. K can be small not actually negligible + spiritual awakening. If fact in Al - jannah when Muslims discover that Allah is merciful, they commit jihad on Him.

sylarsquins:


Na I really aint a fan of the North, think I'll prefer. Abu. Dhabi. Wen I get bck I'll share my experience

.
Abu Dhabi is too far na. The nearer the better. It is matter of time, soon some fundamentalist groups would arise who would find fault with the version of Islam being practised there. Then violence will follow.

MightySparrow:
.
Abu Dhabi is too far na. The nearer the better. It is matter of time, soon some fundamentalist groups would arise who would find fault with the version of Islam being practised there. Then violence will follow.

I don't do local vacations, I prefer abroad. Buh I doubt if any group wud be able to stand dese terrorist besides The Military

MightySparrow:
. IV = F(P+L+X) + k where k is mandatory jihad. K can be small not actually negligible + spiritual awakening. If fact in Al - jannah when Muslims discover that Allah is merciful, they commit jihad on Him.

Yes, the formulae IV = F(P+L+X) + k is more inclusive since islamic jihad is a constant (k) factor in the IV equation.

The IV = quran 9:29:

“Fight against those who … acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and know themselves subdued.”

sylarsquins:


I don't do local vacations, I prefer abroad. Buh I doubt if any group wud be able to stand dese terrorist besides The Military

.
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true2god:
Yes, the formulae IV = F(P+L+X) + k is more inclusive since islamic jihad is a constant (k) factor in the IV equation.

The IV = quran 9:29:

“Fight against those who … acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and know themselves subdued.”

I didn't realise that. No modifications Q.E.D

MightySparrow:
.
Alright, I recommend Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Syria with sponsorship. Terms and conditions applied.

I can see u want me. Dead at all cost buh God pass u

A leaf doesn't fall far from it's tree....

sylarsquins:


I can see u want me. Dead at all cost buh God pass u

I hate to hate you my dear I just want you to have a taste of the best of Islam. First hand knowledge and to officially report on NL

Jagoon:


Yes infact the first islamic terrorist was the founder of islam(mohamed) and he encouraged his followers to continue this acts of terrorism until the whole world accepts islam. They call it jihad.

“If your Lord had so willed (and, denying them free will, compelled humankind to believe), all who are on the earth would surely have believed, all of them. Would you, then, force people until they become believers?” ( the Qur’an, Jonah, 10:99).

"There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing."
(the Qur’an, Heifer, 2:256)

sylarsquins:


Buh Jihad of old Doesn't involve the kilings of innocent people

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