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Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by Demmzy15(m): 4:07pm On Jun 20, 2015
sylarsquins:


Na I really aint a fan of the North, think I'll prefer. Abu. Dhabi. Wen I get bck I'll share my experience
You could visit Malaysia, Dubai or Qatar these are good and nice Shariah Islamic States! grin

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Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by Demmzy15(m): 4:12pm On Jun 20, 2015
MightySparrow:
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Alright, I recommend Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Syria with sponsorship. Terms and conditions applied.
What of Morocco, Algeria, Egypt, Sudan, Mauritania, Tunisia, Jordan, Saudi Arabia(work in an oil company), Qatar, UAE, Oman, Malaysia, Indonesia, etc cool
Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by Nobody: 4:45pm On Jun 20, 2015
MightySparrow:



I hate to hate you my dear I just want you to have a taste of the best of Islam. First hand knowledge and to officially report on NL

Buh since uve experienced it I think dat wud be enuf for us both
Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by MightySparrow: 4:47pm On Jun 20, 2015
Demmzy15:

What of Morocco, Algeria, Egypt, Sudan, Mauritania, Tunisia, Jordan, Saudi Arabia(work in an oil company), Qatar, UAE, Oman, Malaysia, Indonesia, etc cool
These places are not practising pure Islam. You could stay in Nigeria and work in Oil company but to have a real feel of Islam as practised and handed down by Muhammed please visit the recommended places du Allah!
Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by Nobody: 5:38pm On Jun 20, 2015
Hmmm, its so funny dat d op asked about terrorism as a broad topic but the only replies given here are false attributions to islam.
Have we forgotten that terrorism isn't peculiar to islqm alone. Orhave pple quickly fogotten joseph kony of the lords resistqance army, congo or hitler of germny or severqal other offenders like that
So long as pple keep attributing terrorism to a particular religion, the issue will never be solved.
*islam doesn't preach terrorism.
Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by Demmzy15(m): 5:40pm On Jun 20, 2015
MightySparrow:

These places are not practising pure Islam. You could stay in Nigeria and work in Oil company but to have a real feel of Islam as practised and handed down by Muhammed please visit the recommended places du Allah!
All the countries I mentioned above practice Shariah law. Adultery is punishable even if you're a tourist, alcohol consumption is prohibited(but tourist are allowed in some areas). Qatar and UAE has warned tourist from dressing provocatively. The countries I mentioned have Emirs, Sultans and Kings as their heads which signifies pure Islamic States. What you should know is that, the Islamic countries at war don't rule with Shariah law and they follow secular law which causes more trouble! The ones with Shariah are the most successful and rich!

But I'm not condemning democracy, there are ways you can do things without spilling blood.

So you want to compare an oil company in Saudi, Qatar, UAE to one in Nigeria?! shocked You must be high on lipton! grin
Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by MightySparrow: 6:53pm On Jun 20, 2015
Demmzy15:

All the countries I mentioned above practice Shariah law. Adultery is punishable even if you're a tourist, alcohol consumption is prohibited(but tourist are allowed in some areas). Qatar and UAE has warned tourist from dressing provocatively. The countries I mentioned have Emirs, Sultans and Kings as their heads which signifies pure Islamic States. What you should know is that, the Islamic countries at war don't rule with Shariah law and they follow secular law which causes more trouble! The ones with Shariah are the most successful and rich!

But I'm not condemning democracy, there are ways you can do things without spilling blood.

So you want to compare an oil company in Saudi, Qatar, UAE to one in Nigeria?! shocked You must be high on lipton! grin

That means Islam cannot Succeed without oil. The more reason the Mudlim north wants to rule by jihad anyway the prophet way laid caravan business wayfarers to fund his ministry. Lest I forget did Mohammad rule any town in his life time?
Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by Demmzy15(m): 7:20pm On Jun 20, 2015
MightySparrow:


That means Islam cannot Succeed without oil. The more reason the Mudlim north wants to rule by jihad anyway the prophet way laid caravan business wayfarers to fund his ministry. Lest I forget did Mohammad rule any town in his life time?
What is this one saying?! So you mean if a land has been blessed with oil, then it shouldn't be explored because it's a Muslim land?! I don't understand, please explain better!

Muslim North wants to rule with Jihad?! grin grin grin Are you making any sense?! Better go and sit down, religion has nothing to do with extremism. If it did, then Christianity isn't left out! The countries I listed above says contrary!
Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by Demmzy15(m): 7:24pm On Jun 20, 2015
qbd2:
Hmmm, its so funny dat d op asked about terrorism as a broad topic but the only replies given here are false attributions to islam.
Have we forgotten that terrorism isn't peculiar to islqm alone. Orhave pple quickly fogotten joseph kony of the lords resistqance army, congo or hitler of germny or severqal other offenders like that
So long as pple keep attributing terrorism to a particular religion, the issue will never be solved.
*islam doesn't preach terrorism.
Tell them o my sister!
Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by Nobody: 7:53pm On Jun 20, 2015
Demmzy15:

Tell them o my sister!

Yea right they don't preach Terrorism, what about Jihad. Can you pls expain what That means?
Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by Nobody: 7:54pm On Jun 20, 2015
qbd2:
Hmmm, its so funny dat d op asked about terrorism as a broad topic but the only replies given here are false attributions to islam.
Have we forgotten that terrorism isn't peculiar to islqm alone. Orhave pple quickly fogotten joseph kony of the lords resistqance army, congo or hitler of germny or severqal other offenders like that
So long as pple keep attributing terrorism to a particular religion, the issue will never be solved.
*islam doesn't preach terrorism.

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Yea right they don't preach Terrorism, what about Jihad. Can you pls expain what That means?
Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by Nobody: 8:07pm On Jun 20, 2015
sylarsquins:


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Yea right they don't preach Terrorism, what about Jihad. Can you pls expain what That means?
Literarilly it means, struggle and the greatest jican do is jihad (struggle) against the soul.
In justified circumstances e.g war, it could also be used to refger to the physical struggle (fight).
The thing is just dat diseased minded individuals on unjustified violent missions tend to twist islamic verses to suit their purpose just as the media muslims as terrorists also choose to belive and twist texts to support their accusarion.
Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by Demmzy15(m): 8:43pm On Jun 20, 2015
sylarsquins:


Yea right they don't preach Terrorism, what about Jihad. Can you pls expain what That means?
The word " jihad" means struggling or striving. Holy war in Arabic is "Al-Harbul Muqadis" and this word is not found in the Quran or Sahih Hadeeth.

In a religious sense, as described by the Quran and teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (s), "jihad" has many meanings. It can refer to internal as well as external efforts to be a good Muslims or believer, as well as working to inform people about the faith of Islam.

If military jihad is required to protect the faith against others, it can be performed using anything from legal, diplomatic and economic to political means. If there is no peaceful alternative, Islam also allows the use of force, but there are strict rules of engagement. Innocents - such as women, children, or invalids - must never be harmed, and any peaceful overtures from the enemy must be accepted. The Milltary Jihad is to be carried out by a legitimate army(Saudi Army, Qatari Army, etc) not by groups. It is called for by the Supreme ruler of the country or State

Jihad is not a declaration of war against other religions. It is worth noting that the Quran specifically refers to Jews and Christians as "people of the book" who should be protected and respected. All three faiths worship the same God. Allah is just the Arabic word for God, and is used by Christian Arabs as well as Muslims.

Please visit the link I provided to you above!
Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by Nobody: 9:45pm On Jun 20, 2015
Demmzy15:

“If your Lord had so willed (and, denying them free will, compelled humankind to believe), all who are on the earth would surely have believed, all of them. Would you, then, force people until they become believers?” ( the Qur’an, Jonah, 10:99).

"There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing."
(the Qur’an, Heifer, 2:256)

Story your quoran is full of lies and contradictions.
Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by Demmzy15(m): 9:53pm On Jun 20, 2015
Jagoon:


Story your quoran is full of lies and contradictions.
Ode! grin tongue
Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by Nobody: 10:09pm On Jun 20, 2015
Demmzy15:

The word " jihad" means struggling or striving. Holy war in Arabic is "Al-Harbul Muqadis" and this word is not found in the Quran or Sahih Hadeeth.

In a religious sense, as described by the Quran and teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (s), "jihad" has many meanings. It can refer to internal as well as external efforts to be a good Muslims or believer, as well as working to inform people about the faith of Islam.

If military jihad is required to protect the faith against others, it can be performed using anything from legal, diplomatic and economic to political means. If there is no peaceful alternative, Islam also allows the use of force, but there are strict rules of engagement. Innocents - such as women, children, or invalids - must never be harmed, and any peaceful overtures from the enemy must be accepted. The Milltary Jihad is to be carried out by a legitimate army(Saudi Army, Qatari Army, etc) not by groups. It is called for by the Supreme ruler of the country or State

Jihad is not a declaration of war against other religions. It is worth noting that the Quran specifically refers to Jews and Christians as "people of the book" who should be protected and respected. All three faiths worship the same God. Allah is just the Arabic word for God, and is used by Christian Arabs as well as Muslims.

Please visit the link I provided to you above!

Story for the gods
Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by Demmzy15(m): 10:19pm On Jun 20, 2015
sylarsquins:


Story for the gods
At lest I've answered your question, my conscience is free!!!
Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by true2god: 10:20pm On Jun 20, 2015
Demmzy15:

All the countries I mentioned above practice Shariah law. Adultery is punishable even if you're a tourist, alcohol consumption is prohibited(but tourist are allowed in some areas). Qatar and UAE has warned tourist from dressing provocatively. The countries I mentioned have Emirs, Sultans and Kings as their heads which signifies pure Islamic States. What you should know is that, the Islamic countries at war don't rule with Shariah law and they follow secular law which causes more trouble! The ones with Shariah are the most successful and rich!

But I'm not condemning democracy, there are ways you can do things without spilling blood.

So you want to compare an oil company in Saudi, Qatar, UAE to one in Nigeria?! shocked You must be high on lipton! grin
Sharia law does not make any muslim rich. All the wealthy muslim countries like Saudi arabia, kuwait, Uae, qatar are rich because they have a large deposit of oil and gas which are exploited and paid for my american and european oil exploration companies (such as texaco, chevron, mobil, agip, total-elf etc). Pakistan, afganistan, kazastan, oman, somalia, northern sudan, algeria, bangladesh, djibuti, mauritania etc, practise sharia and are still very poor.

Kuwait, qatar, uae, and saudi arabia were also very poor before oil expolaration in their countries. Full implementation of sharia in any country (without oil and gas) bring poverty.

Stop spreading false information.

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Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by true2god: 10:28pm On Jun 20, 2015
qbd2:

Literarilly it means, struggle and the greatest jican do is jihad (struggle) against the soul.
In justified circumstances e.g war, it could also be used to refger to the physical struggle (fight).
The thing is just dat diseased minded individuals on unjustified violent missions tend to twist islamic verses to suit their purpose just as the media muslims as terrorists also choose to belive and twist texts to support their accusarion.
Jihad does not mean struggle against the soul but fighting for the cause of allahh. Mohammed did not 'struggle against his soul' but he physically waged war against the infidels and pagans in order to win battles for islam and allahh.

The concept that jihad means struggle against the soul is a new definition which has no place in islamic history. In the battle of badr which the first khalifa led against the apostates, it is never against the soul but to bring apostates back to islamic fold.

Please stop the lies that jihad is a struggle against the soul, it is a physical war against the infidels as recorded in the hadith and the sunnah.

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Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by true2god: 10:34pm On Jun 20, 2015
Demmzy15:

The word " jihad" means struggling or striving. Holy war in Arabic is "Al-Harbul Muqadis" and this word is not found in the Quran or Sahih Hadeeth.

In a religious sense, as described by the Quran and teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (s), "jihad" has many meanings. It can refer to internal as well as external efforts to be a good Muslims or believer, as well as working to inform people about the faith of Islam.

If military jihad is required to protect the faith against others, it can be performed using anything from legal, diplomatic and economic to political means. If there is no peaceful alternative, Islam also allows the use of force, but there are strict rules of engagement. Innocents - such as women, children, or invalids - must never be harmed, and any peaceful overtures from the enemy must be accepted. The Milltary Jihad is to be carried out by a legitimate army(Saudi Army, Qatari Army, etc) not by groups. It is called for by the Supreme ruler of the country or State

Jihad is not a declaration of war against other religions. It is worth noting that the Quran specifically refers to Jews and Christians as "people of the book" who should be protected and respected. All three faiths worship the same God. Allah is just the Arabic word for God, and is used by Christian Arabs as well as Muslims.

Please visit the link I provided to you above!
You are not completely honest. See what Islamic sources teach with regard to muslim-christian-jews relationship:

Sahih Muslim Book 019, Number 4366: “It has been narrated by ‘Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: “I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.”

Ibn Ishaq, Life of Muhammad (Karachi) p.553: …the Apostle of Allah said, “Kill any Jew that falls into your power.”

Bukhari Vol.4 Bk.52 No.176 Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar: Allah’s Apostle said,“You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, ‘O ‘Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)!There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.”

Quran-5.60 “…[the Jews] whom Allah has cursed and brought His wrath upon, and of whom He made apes and swine, and who served the Shaitan…”

Quran-5:72 “Surely, they have disbelieved who say: “Allah is the Messiah … and the Fire will be his abode and for the Zalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers) there are no helpers.” [Not only does this verse say Christians burn in hell, it also equates them to “polytheists”, thus negating their “special status” as “people of the book”.]

Quran-9.29 “Fight against those who … acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and know themselves subdued.”

That is one of the reasons it is criminal offense for any Jews or christian to step his foot on mecca or medina.

Stop lying for the arabs or islam.
Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by Nobody: 11:11pm On Jun 20, 2015
Demmzy15:
At lest I've answered your question, my conscience is free!!!
Was feelin slpy dat ws y I sent dat, will reply u tomorrow.
Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by Demmzy15(m): 11:45pm On Jun 20, 2015
true2god:
Sharia law does not make any muslim rich. All the wealthy muslim countries like Saudi arabia, kuwait, Uae, qatar are rich because they have a large deposit of oil and gas which are exploited and paid for my american and european oil exploration companies (such as texaco, chevron, mobil, agip, total-elf etc). Pakistan, afganistan, kazastan, oman, somalia, northern sudan, algeria, bangladesh, djibuti, mauritania etc, practise sharia and are still very poor.

Kuwait, qatar, uae, and saudi arabia
were also very poor before oil expolaration in their countries. Full implementation of sharia in any country (without oil and gas) bring poverty.

Stop spreading false information.
For your mind you be one exposer o! There is something I just want to point out-Oman, Kazakhstan, Sudan, Mauritania, Pakistan, etc are countries which are far peaceful and better than Nigeria. Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Somalia are countries with majority Muslims but they don't practice Shariah. There are areas in Nigeria that are majority Muslims but Shariah law isn't practiced to the standard. So countries with majority Muslims doesn't automatically mean Shariah is practiced. So from this post of yours, you've failed miserably to show downfalls of Shariah!

Wars happening in the Islamic World today all have political origins not religion, some miscreants then involved religion with it! I won't reply your other posts because we've done that several and it fell to deaf ears!
Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by true2god: 1:30am On Jun 21, 2015
Demmzy15:

For your mind you be one exposer o! There is something I just want to point out-Oman, Kazakhstan, Sudan, Mauritania, Pakistan, etc are countries which are far peaceful and better than Nigeria. Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Somalia are countries with majority Muslims but they don't practice Shariah. There are areas in Nigeria that are majority Muslims but Shariah law isn't practiced to the standard. So countries with majority Muslims doesn't automatically mean Shariah is practiced. So from this post of yours, you've failed miserably to show downfalls of Shariah!

Wars happening in the Islamic World today all have political origins not religion, some miscreants then involved religion with it! I won't reply your other posts because we've done that several and it fell to deaf ears!
You dont have to reply to my post because I will always expose your lies. In this same NL a muslim once said that saudi arabia dont practice sharia the way it ought to be practised. It is only Nigerian muslims that are better islamic scholars than Saudi arabia sheiks.

Read the economic history of saudi arabia, qatar, uae and kuwait (before oil exploration in their respective countries) and you wil notice that they as a poor as the present-day yemen. If tomorow a large deposit of oil and gas is discovered in yemen or pakistan, their economic fortune will also change like what we have currently in qatar.

No rich arab nation with a functional economic system that is not tied to oil. Aran or muslim countries do not manufature anything for human consumption. They are just like Africans. The imam that told you that saudi arabia or qatar is rich as a result of sharia is lying to you.

You said countries that practice sharia are peaceful. That is a lie. Saudi arabia have been practcing sharia for over 1000 years and there had been war before it temporarily ceased in 1932 after the wahabbi rebels purge saudi arabia (throught genocide like current ISIS model) of anything they deem 'unislamic'. Even today, the shia are persecuted in saudi arabia and are not allowed to build any mosques (despite the fact that they are citizens).

So how does sharia bring peace and justice when the majority sunnis are still oppressing the minority shia in saudi arabia?
Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by Nobody: 11:24am On Jun 21, 2015
Demmzy15:

For your mind you be one exposer o! There is something I just want to point out-Oman, Kazakhstan, Sudan, Mauritania, Pakistan, etc are countries which are far peaceful and better than Nigeria. Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Somalia are countries with majority Muslims but they don't practice Shariah. There are areas in Nigeria that are majority Muslims but Shariah law isn't practiced to the standard. So countries with majority Muslims doesn't automatically mean Shariah is practiced. So from this post of yours, you've failed miserably to show downfalls of Shariah!

Wars happening in the Islamic World today all have political origins not religion, some miscreants then involved religion with it! I won't reply your other posts because we've done that several and it fell to deaf ears!

You must be a big dunce and a stack islamic illiterate to suggest a war torn country like Sudan is better than and more peaceful than Nigeria. That said you also need to be reminded that the first miscreant that brought religion into his political battle was mohamed himself and those you now label as miscreants are merely following the foot steps of your god.
Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by Demmzy15(m): 11:50am On Jun 21, 2015
Jagoon:


You must be a big dunce and a stack islamic illiterate to suggest a war torn country like Sudan is better than and more peaceful than Nigeria. That said you also need to be reminded that the first miscreant that brought religion into his political battle was mohamed himself and those you now label as miscreants are merely following the foot steps of your god.
No need to make mouth and rain curses, the only part of Sudan at war is "Darfur" which is not up to half the land size of Sudan. The Nigerian Army intervened in darfur some years back. The Northeast of Nigeria is at war but that doesn't mean the whole Nigeria is war torn country. What you should know is that, the educational system and other sectors of Sudan is better than Nigeria. But as you know, Sudan doesn't have resources as Nigeria
Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by kaybee88(m): 12:57pm On Jun 21, 2015
MightySparrow:
. This is a shouting fact. Everywhere Islam is, violence is its signature. Is that hatred? Take a holiday in a typical village in Borno state for two weeks and come and write your experience on NL if you live to tell the story.
but your choice holiday destination would be Dubai/malaysia/Turkey Abi
Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by Nobody: 1:22pm On Jun 21, 2015
Demmzy15:

No need to make mouth and rain curses, the only part of Sudan at war is "Darfur" which is not up to half the land size of Sudan. The Nigerian Army intervened in darfur some years back. The Northeast of Nigeria is at war but that doesn't mean the whole Nigeria is war torn country. What you should know is that, the educational system and other sectors of Sudan is better than Nigeria. But as you know, Sudan doesn't have resources as Nigeria

Move to Sudan then so you can practise your evil and archaic sharia in pieces. tongue
Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by Nobody: 1:25pm On Jun 21, 2015
true2god:

Jihad does not mean struggle against the soul but fighting for the cause of allahh. Mohammed did not 'struggle against his soul' but he physically waged war against the infidels and pagans in order to win battles for islam and allahh.

The concept that jihad means struggle against the soul is a new definition which has no place in islamic history. In the battle of badr which the first khalifa led against the apostates, it is never against the soul but to bring apostates back to islamic fold.

Please stop the lies that jihad is a struggle against the soul, it is a physical war against the infidels as recorded in the hadith and the sunnah.
Typing error, if u cud read it ud have seen I said jihad literarilly means struggle, and the greatest jhad one can do is jihad (struggle) against the soul.
I'm not saying jihad doesn't entail d physical fight, but pple have come to regard it as only the physiocal fight while forgetting dat it originally means struggle. So if some verses are quoted with the word jihad they immidiately thinbk its all about fight, while neglecting the other aspect of jihad it could be reFfering to.

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Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by true2god: 1:40pm On Jun 21, 2015
qbd2:

Typing error, if u cud read it ud have seen I said jihad literarilly means struggle, and the greatest jhad one can do is jihad (struggle) against the soul.
I'm not saying jihad doesn't entail d physical fight, but pple have come to regard it as only the physiocal fight while forgetting dat it originally means struggle. So if some verses are quoted with the word jihad they immidiately thinbk its all about fight, while neglecting the other aspect of jihad it could be reFfering to.
Your attempt at re-defining jihad does not hold water. Jihad has only one meaning and that is fighting the infidels in order to ensure that all man aknowledge that there is no god except allahh and mohammed is his messenger.

The 21st century definition of jihad (that is soul struggles) modern muslims try to invent is an altaqiyya for confusing the ignorant people.

There is only one true meaning of jihad, and that is physically fighting the infidels for the cause of allahh. Mohammed, Abu Bakr, uthman dan fodio, kamen borno, and the turks, all at one point fought jihad for the cause of allahh.

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Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by Nobody: 3:50pm On Jun 21, 2015
true2god:
[s]Your attempt at re-defining jihad does not hold water. Jihad has only one meaning and that is fighting the infidels in order to ensure that all man aknowledge that there is no god except allahh and mohammed is his messenger.

The 21st century definition of jihad (that is soul struggles) modern muslims try to invent is an altaqiyya for confusing the ignorant people.

There is only one true meaning of jihad, and that is physically fighting the infidels for the cause of allahh. Mohammed, Abu Bakr, uthman dan fodio, kamen borno, and the turks, all at one point fought jihad for the cause of allahh[/s]
al'taqiyya

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Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by Demmzy15(m): 5:04pm On Jun 21, 2015
Jagoon:


Move to Sudan then so you can practise your evil and archaic sharia in pieces. tongue
I have friends studying 'medicine' in University Of Khartoum! tongue tongue
Re: Muslims against or in support of Terrorism by Nobody: 5:43pm On Jun 21, 2015
Demmzy15:
I have friends studying 'medicine' in University Of Khartoum! tongue tongue
Off all the places in the world they prefer Sudan to go study?. Smh

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