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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:58pm On Jun 22, 2015 |
agaugust:Yes, like a 3rd Generation missile in Nigerian air force! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 10:00pm On Jun 22, 2015 |
patches689:Junk fighter-17 uses the RD-33 engine. Slightly modified. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 10:07pm On Jun 22, 2015 |
NaijaPikinGidi: Stop dreaming! Can't "appreciate a situation"? Mr I know how to do my job? Here: http://m.hindustantimes.com/world-news/suspected-boko-haram-attack-2-girl-suicide-bombers-kill-30-in-nigeria/article1-1361726.aspx |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 10:26pm On Jun 22, 2015 |
DictatorZAR:I slay one Zulu and another spring forth in primitive anger lolz. the post 1994 report says S.A is one of the most unequal countries in the world; your university shot down due to water shortages; you have one of the largest slums on mother earth. only 15% Zulus ever made it out of the poverty line lolz.. you sound like s broken record trying to play a sad song. Zulu has destroyed every single legacy left by your masters for over 300 years. you are of the dumbest black specie with no legacy, heritage or identity. your history is written in slavery and a humiliating bail out by the entire Africa continent. counting you among humanity is a diplomatic attempt at the courtesy of pretence. Zulu belongs to the sewer pipes where they get flushed into the dark, murky mist of waste where you whirl in an endless circle of worthless nothingness. you are Africa's burden and the world's chief cry baby. buying your freedom was a waste to Africa; we should have used that money to rear pigs which are superior to you in breeding and by training. what a waste of humanity Zulu is. run along now, you drooling nitwit with a primitive smirk on your nkoboti stained teeth. now I have had you e murdered, you can call me the Zulu slayer. I can feel the heat of your pain across this platform. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:45pm On Jun 22, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: Buhahahahahaha you paid $68 million for a JF-17. Looool 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:35pm On Jun 22, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: RD-93 actually. The funny thing is, the RD-93 has the ability to give 10% more thrust that is actually stated. Basic level , thrust Gripen Block 2 : 54.0 KN Thrust/ weight ratio : 0.97 JF-17 Block 1 : 49.4KN Thrust/ weight ratio : 0.96 The difference between the 2 engines is so little, when we add the fact that the RD-93 can add 10% more thrust. You soweto dullards payed 3 times more for a JF-17. LOL! 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 12:30am On Jun 23, 2015 |
FighterPilot:stop posting pics of random place and calling it random names. Mumu nah who we go ask |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 12:33am On Jun 23, 2015 |
Henry120: |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 12:51am On Jun 23, 2015 |
FighterPilot:dude if only you knew the meaning of 'mumu'... You've just destroyed yourself. Nobody will take you seriously again. #suicide :-| 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Centrifude(m): 5:20am On Jun 23, 2015 |
Henry120: WooooooooooW!!!!! LMFAO That's your interpretation of a Vertical Takeoff Now I realise that what Patches has been saying about you is true, you just claim sh*t and you expect people to believe you. That's not a Vertical takeoff because the plane was already in the air, when it moved vertically. We all know how you see the JF-17 as a Godly plane but the fact is it can't do what you're saying. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_VTOL_aircraft There's a list of a many of the known Aircraft capable of Vertical Takeoff. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:26am On Jun 23, 2015 |
Henry120:Saab Grintek is making lots of making. Its systems have been integrated in many helicopters and fighters around the world. Because you say so? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:28am On Jun 23, 2015 |
Henry120:Yes, the RD-93 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 7:13am On Jun 23, 2015 |
Henry120: Jf-17 is not more maneuverable Radar look down range for the grip is unconfirmed Apart from the JF-17 s range - Gripen is better in every way you yourself admit it |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 7:15am On Jun 23, 2015 |
Henry120: ANd yet the Gripen is better you admit this yourself - better radar and combat suite, carries more munitions, is faster, more maneuverable, more advanced weapons systems and is combat tested And - the Gripen is constantly upgraded unlike your jf-17 Proof in the pudding: Argentina wanted grip c/D and only when denied did they look at the jf-17 (this is after they were initially denied the latest grip) Valour class combat suite is not defective You can ramble on about your monkey model j-10 all you want - it's blatantly obvious which platform is better |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 7:16am On Jun 23, 2015 |
Henry120: You mean we paid $68 million for a jet that is better than a JF-17 This is by your own admission |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 7:17am On Jun 23, 2015 |
Henry120: ANd yet the Gripen has a better thrust/weight ratio Jf-17 is trash - runs on a civilian grade operating system ffs |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 8:08am On Jun 23, 2015 |
Henry120: Gripen is not a junk fighter. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ssaengine: 10:01am On Jun 23, 2015 |
http://m.news24.com/news24/Africa/News/Nigeria-treasury-virtually-empty-says-angry-Buhari-20150622 Abuja - Nigeria's president Muhammadu Buhari on Monday slammed the state of the country's finances, claiming his predecessor had left Africa's biggest economy deep in debt and the treasury "virtually empty". I wonder where they'll get the money to buy "a squadron or 2" of JF-17's. Just thinking out loud. 4 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 11:34am On Jun 23, 2015 |
DictatorZAR: Jess!! That is almost total population of SA. Lol!! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 11:45am On Jun 23, 2015 |
Nigeria, Africa's most populous country, produces less grid electricity than the Republic of Ireland. South Africans consume 55 times more energy per head, and Americans 100 times more. Over 50% of Nigeria's 160 million people receive no electricity at all. http://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/adam-smith-international-partner-zone/nigerian-power-breakthrough-global-development |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 12:30pm On Jun 23, 2015 |
ssaengine: They have started feeling pressure from last year. http://www.punchng.com/news/nigeria-is-broke-amaechi-insists/ |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 12:51pm On Jun 23, 2015 |
I've been lazy to do this....but I have time on my hands today. MYTH OF 9 SAAF GRIPEN PILOTS SMASHED Pic 1 - Gripen pilots who took part in Presidential Inauguration flypast 2009. Pic by SAAF photographer Christo Crous titled "2 Squadron Gripen pilots". Taken from his facebook page. Pics 2,3,4 - More Gripen pilots who ALL took part in Exercise Lion Effort 2012 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 12:57pm On Jun 23, 2015 |
MYTH OF 9 SAAF GRIPEN PILOTS SMASHED - PART 2 Pic 1 - Blokkies "Cobra" Joubert. Test and operational pilot Pic 2 - Another Gripen pilot. Did a solo display at AAD 2014. That is a total of 15 Gripen pilots purely from pics Ball is now in Nigeria's court. Show us (with proof) which of these pilots no longer fly for the SAAF. You were brave enough to say 18 aircrew = 9 pilots. So be brave again, show us which of these pilots no longer fly, giving you a total of 9 pilots.
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 1:23pm On Jun 23, 2015 |
5 current Gripen pilots can be seen (sitting on the ground) in 2009 when they were still Hawk pilots (note the different flight suites between Gripen and Hawk). The pilot sitting on the far left/front was in the process of converting from Hawk to Gripen but was killed in a motorbike accident. Again...ball is in Nigeria's court. #showusyourproof
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:59pm On Jun 23, 2015 |
Patchesagain: E-fool on E-debates. JF-17 upgrades are well known, Block 1 in 2012, Block 2 in 2015, Block 3 planned for 2016-17. E-fool |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:03pm On Jun 23, 2015 |
saengine: Photograph does not make a pilot combat qualified, how many hours does he fly/train in a year? saengine: Your photo of 2009 is six years ago ! LOL ! Hilarious, combat pilots need yearly qualifications, so show us proof that you have 9 Gripen pilots that have done 150 flight hours each in 2014. Your pilots are NOT combat qualified in SAAF Gripen fleet, they can only take off and land or do air shows for Mandela's funeral. Lucky you did not confront Sudan, MiG-29 would have shot down your inexperienced and unqualified Gripen pilots with Sudan's BVR missiles . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:09pm On Jun 23, 2015 |
saengine: Pilots walking on the ground is not same as pilots flying in the air, does your Gripen operate on the floor where those men are walking? 2012 is three years ago, your pilots have lost their combat qualification, they need 150 hours flight each per year, they get just about 12 hours each.....TOTALLY DISQUALIFIED from combat.....SAAF Gripens will fall to even Ugandan air force Su-30 Flankers ! BTWN.....99% of your combat pilots for Gripen are white, and some old men whites ready to retire....Soweto Black Mutant brains CANNOT fly a 4th Generation jet fighter......same story we hear about your Valour frigate and Submarines, one set of crews for each vessel, 1 Frigate 1 Sub is all SAN can deploy to war. Bank loan can buy you weapons but CANNOT buy you black/coloured btains to operate them . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 2:14pm On Jun 23, 2015 |
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 2:34pm On Jun 23, 2015 |
agaugust: No matter how high a bird can fly it will always come down to roast. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nutuk: 2:49pm On Jun 23, 2015 |
pavri: Hello all, I saw this forum by coincidence and joined. I am from Turkey and when I saw a discussion going on about whether the Rooivalk or T_129 is better I wanted to join and correct a few common mistakes. Firstly someone remarked that Turkey did not chose the Rooivalk because she technically failed, this is not true. The Rooivalk and Italian A_129 where shortlisted in the Turkish tender to provide a platform on which Turkey wanted to create a new chopper with complete renewed avionics, selfdefence suites, weapons pack etc. etc. The idea was to build on an existing proven platform to reduce development time, costs, overruns and delays. The Rooivalk as one of the shortlisted helicopters that technically fullfilled the requirements was not selected due to dissagreements with Denel on the prize of the chopper, not on technical details. The Rooivalk is a fine platform. Reacting to the ongoing discussion whether Rooivalk or the T_129 would win is a bit strange as it is not that the helicopters but the weaponspack on board determines the result. Usually the most modern chopper has the advantage, just ask yourself whether an Apache blk II or blkIII would be better. The blkIII with the newer avionics, selfprotection suite and wider weapon capabilities would be ofcourse in advantage. So I think it is similar with other helicopters, I don't know in how far the Rooivalk has received upgrades but the T_129 is brandnew with the T_129A model in production now, very soon the T_129B1 (2016) will be taken into production and around 2018 the B2 model. There will be mainly differences in the capabilities and selfprotection suites. B2 model will carry the MildarII (MMW radar) and the latest HEHSIS (helicopter selfprotection suite) which is recently installed and tested on two S-70 blackhawk helicopters. It's the only selfprotection suite in the world as far as I know that makes use of AESA antenna's. To be short the T_129 is really using the latest technology that exist which gives her quite some advantages and unique abilities. Last I want to say is all modern atack helicopters are quite fine, it's the way how effective the user army use them that determines their strength, example: no any other army than the US army can use the Apache blk III to her full efectiveness, cos only the US has the full infrastructure that supports the helicopter to her full extend. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nutuk: 2:57pm On Jun 23, 2015 |
[img]http://kokpit.aero//image/data/P1120961.JPG[/img] And to answer on the discussion whether these are Nigerian students I cannot really confirm but I know that Nigerian military students are trained in Turkey and the uniforms they are wearing are Turkish cadet uniforms. So it is impossibile to tell from uniform whether they are Nigerian of Somali, but they do not look like Ethiopians and Somalians to me (again I am not sure) 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:40pm On Jun 23, 2015 |
Nutuk: Thanks man ! . |
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