mzilakazi:
Somalian Air force cadets in Turkey.

Somalians turned Nigerian Air force cadets in Turkey.

http://somalianewsroom.com/2014/10/24/putting-the-puzzle-together-what-does-the-future-hold-for-somalias-military-forces/somali-air-force-cadets-in-turkey/

mzilakazi:
Turkey is helping rebuild Somalia. A well known fact.


http://www.somalilandpress.com/in-pictures-turkey-begins-training-somali-forces/

Henry120:


You have 26 fighters, even your concocted figure represents a massive shortfall.


Anyway, the SAAF has 9 qualified Gripen pilots, until substantiated evidence is provided to the contrary.


Enjoy your $68 million JF-17.

jln115:

Realy massive shortfall? Need I remind you that NAF has less than half of that number of mig 21s.

And only 3 pilots to fly them!

And the Gripen beats the JF handsdown in basically every aspect.

Henry120:


If you actually understood English, you wouldn't really be asking me this question.

-Radar difference is 10km in favour of the Gripen, just slightly better than the JF-17 block 1.

- JF-17 block 1 has a range of 1350 KM, much much better than the Gripen

- speed Mach 1.8 to Mach 2 in favour of the Gripen C/D

- the JF-17 has a better radar down look detection.

- the JF-17 can carry nuclear missiles, the Gripen cannot.

- the JF-17 has 7 harpoints to the 8 on the Gripen

- the JF-17 is way more manoeuvrable than the Gripen

- the Gripen has a slightly better thrust than the JF-17.

- the G limit is 8 to 8.5 in favour of the Gripen.


If these specifications do not represent an Aircraft that is just as good as the Gripen, and provide the bang-for-the-buck, then your mental limitations not mine.


Aircrafts cost

Gripen: $68 million a unit

JF-17 : $25- 30 million a unit.

Henry120:


We don't fly MIGs.


The Gripen is an over-priced JF-17. This has been well proven.

Henry120:


We don't fly MIGs.


The Gripen is an over-priced JF-17. This has been well proven.

jln115:

Gripen is faster
Has better wing loading
Way better RCS
More hard points
Way more manoeuvrable
Much better software
Better HMD
Lower stall speed
Lower maintenance costs
Better radar
Better G force endurance.

And BTW carrying a nuclear warhead is not much different than carry an ordinary warhead.

Must I say more?

jln115:

Really massive shortfall? Need I remind you that NAF has less than half of that number of mig 21s.

And only 3 pilots to fly them!

And the Gripen beats the JF handsdown in basically every aspect.

jln115:

Yes you fly Migs.

Henry120:


We don't fly MIGs.


The Gripen is an over-priced JF-17. This has been well proven.

agaugust:


Yes, say more about the aspects where JF-17 beats Gripen which you are afraid to quote . Start with combat range.....then show us videos to compare maneuverability....



Range? Weapons mix/options? Ground radar look down? Runway take off distance? Maneuverability? Altitude.....with JF-17 shooting down the Gripen from higher heights above the Gripen pilot's head? Thinking like a salon barber as usual....not surprising
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agaugust:


Hey barber, show us a MiG currently in NAF service, one photo or weblink will do. Have a nice cut

jln115:

Yes you fly Migs, and the Gripen is far superior than the JF in every way,its been proven here over and over.

jln115:

Gripen is faster
Has better wing loading
Way better RCS
More hard points
Way more manoeuvrable
Much better software
Better HMD
Lower stall speed
Lower maintenance costs
Better radar
Better G force endurance.

And BTW carrying a nuclear warhead is not much different than carry an ordinary warhead.

Must I say more?

jln115:

Better climb rate, better manoeuvrability, shorter landing distance, better rcs,higher payload ect ect And you have 0 proof that the jf has better ground search radar.

Thinking like a Nigerian as usual...not surprising.

jln115:
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jln115:

shorter landing distance.

Henry120:


No offence, are you a barber?

Henry120:


The JF-17 is more manoeuvrable than the Gripen, this isn't even in question. Gripen only has a hard-point more. There is proof to show the JF-17 ground detection radar is better, not forgetting it also has a higher combat radius and altitude.

agaugust:


Your photo is a NAF Chengdu F-7 Airguard

Come on, you can do better than that, so show us a MiG jet in NAF service .....make it a nice cut, show your skills man ...
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agaugust:


The Gripen landing distance is with aid of a landing restraint drag chute, every jet gets shorter landing run with drag chutes, the JF-17 will do better if it deploys it's own landing drag cute
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Henry120:


Is the single digit difference between the Gripen Block 2 and the JF-17 block 1 enough to cost $38 million?

jln115:

Uhm...I think ive made it pretty clear that I'm definitely not a barber on a number of occasions.

Henry120:


So, how come Agaugust keeps referring to you as a barber?

Henry120:

So, how come Agaugust keeps referring to you as a barber?

jln115:

The only single digit difference between the 2 is the max g foce the aircraft can endure, and believe me, that 0.5 Gs makes a huge difference when you have a fighter that weighs more than 14 tons fully loaded, thus it means the airframe of the gripen can endure 6 ton worth of g force more than the jf-17 when they are both loaded at the same weight of 12 tons.

jln115:

Because he's retardded.

agaugust:


The Gripen landing distance is with aid of a landing restraint drag chute, every jet gets shorter landing run with drag chutes, the JF-17 will do better if it deploys it's own landing drag cute
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agaugust:





[size=16pt] ~ 200 foreign cadets from 14 countries training in Turkey's military academies

List includes Gambia and Ethiopia as at 2013

http://www.todayszaman.com/columnist/abdullah-bozkurt/turkeys-security-deals-with-partner-nations_303343.html

The photo of large numbers of cadets you Southie E-fool posted is actually a mix of Ethiopian and Somali cadets combined

http://www.somalilandpress.com/in-pictures-40-ethiopian-and-somaliland-cadets-graduate-together-from-military-college/

There are Nigerian cadets in Turkey as at today :

"To enable her cadets obtain valuable sea time experience, Nigeria has entered into a pact with Turkey."

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/as-nigeria-and-turkey-activate-sea-time-pact/161937/

Both you and the other 5 Southies that liked your post of lies are just a tag team of E-fools made in Soweto
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Henry120:


That can both handle Gs at high levels, and modern pilots can comfortably withstand a G-Force of 9.


What this means is, the Gripen's ability to handle a. G force of 8.5 is absolutely nothing to brag about.

Henry120:


That can both handle Gs at high levels, and modern pilots can comfortably withstand a G-Force of 9.


What this means is, the Gripen's ability to handle a. G force of 8.5 is absolutely nothing to brag about.

Henry120:


Are you sure, he's pretty emphatic on the fact that you can give a clean cut?

jln115:

Nope Gripen is more manoeuvrable thanks to its much much lower wing loading and canards.

And no, you have 0 proof that the Junk Fighter has better ground search rather.

And don't forget the gripen has much higher speed, much lower stall speed,better RCS, better software,better hdm, higher payload , ect ect ect

mzilakazi:



The cadets on an Atak gunships were Somalians. 100% Confirmed.

[size=16] Nigeria is none of the countries training pilot cadets in Turkey. Give me one source that will ever prove me wrong.[/size]