Henry120:


You spent 3 times an amount for a plane that is only 10% better than a JF-17 block 1.

Buhahahahahahahahahaha

agaugust:


Same way you Southies talk about project Biro when the OPV has NOT even been named

NAF fully tested/evaluated/selected/named JF-17 Thunder and close to signing contract for purchase of 25 to 40 units/examples.

50 years ahead of SAN project Biro of an unidentified untested unknown OPV that sails with Alice in wonderland
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agaugust:


Who mentioned Pakistan? NAF has chosen JF-17, we may meet again in Ivory Coast if your SANDF cowards have any courage to show face again.

agaugust:


Both Gripen Block I and JF-17 Block I cannot do air refueling.

Both aircrafts Block II can do air refueling.

Get your head checked for some loose bolts and nuts
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agaugust:


$2 Billion extra funds was released for new weapons in 2014. Defense budget remains at $6 Billion. Cash reserves stands at $30 Billion.

JF-17 costs only $25 million yet worth the technical value of a $68 million Gripen....Swedish rip off
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Henry120:
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This is exactly what is painful about the whole thing.

They paid $68 million for a Block 2 of fighter jet that is only marginally better than a JF-17 Block 1.

Henry120:


Why are you thinking like a potato farmer in a military thread?


Again I ask, why did Pretoria buy JF-17 thunders at $ 68 million a unit?

Henry120:

You are lost.

Sahabg:

China doesnot use JF17 cuz they have a similar plane called JL9
And here is Kamra where 54% of jf17 airframe is constructed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17P_zKJ86pY

agaugust:


Citation needed

agaugust:


Both Gripen Block I and JF-17 Block I cannot do air refueling.

Both aircrafts Block II can do air refueling.

Get your head checked for some loose bolts and nuts
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agaugust:


$2 Billion extra funds was released for new weapons in 2014. Defense budget remains at $6 Billion. Cash reserves stands at $30 Billion.

JF-17 costs only $25 million yet worth the technical value of a $68 million Gripen....Swedish rip off
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Henry120:

Rest assured, we will not buy a JF-17 at $68 million.

Sahabg:

http://www.janes.com/article/49991/block-2-jf-17-makes-first-flight-ahead-of-block-3-improvements
Those posts are made by jealous Indians just ask them where there Tejas is oh thats right nowhere

patches689:


yes, tested/evaluated/selected/named... just like the T80U,Su30,Scorpion and Super Tucano


Your cash strapped nation aint getting sh1t

jln115:

The JF-17 will never fly at 16900m, its not efficient to fly at those altitudes...Why? because AIR IS LESS DENSE AT ALTITUDE thus less oxygen for the engine to burn, but you don't know that because according to you air is more dense at higher altitude.

jln115:

Did you read my post? Its possible to calculate the RCS of any object using a math equation, although it isn't exactly the same as the real RCS of the aircraft due to other factors like radar absorbing material ect it does how ever give an overview of what it possibly is.

And ive also provided a source a few months ago, that the Gripen has a RCS of 1/10th of the F-16C, which is 1,2m2, thus 1,2/10= 0,12m2 RCS for the Gripen.

Sahabg:


http://www.janes.com/article/49991/block-2-jf-17-makes-first-flight-ahead-of-block-3-improvements

Those posts are made by jealous Indians just ask them where there Tejas is oh thats right nowhere

patches689:


JF-17 block one cannot

patches689:


Pakistan is offering the JF-17 for a low price ($25 million in the cheapest configuration) and touts the fact that this is a third the price of an F-16. But this is comparing apples and oranges. The low end JF-17 is little more than a day time interceptor
https://africadefensejournal./2011/11/28/chinese-jf-17-is-a-cheap-competition-for-the-f-16/

mzilakazi:


Still, any wise nation wouldn't go for a copy called Junk Fighter.

agaugust:


LOL....even old MiG-21 does night combat. Nobody makes a 4th generation air superiority jet that only fights daytime. LOL...E-fool
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agaugust:


Super Tucano was dropped in favour of Su-25, that was just about 6 months ago. Aircraft purchase is not 3 day shopping for rice and chicken in the market. Both JF-17 and Su-25 deals are confirmed to be at near contract signing stage by Janes Defence.

6 months process ia 1,000 times better than a 23 year delayed project Biro that has not even named the OPV

Yes Nigeria is buying shiit.....we just bought new helicopter gunships secretly.....Eurocopters from France, we got money even for aircraft bthat was never announced or budgeted for....sulk with envy dude....
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agaugust:


The Gripen too will NEVER fly at 15,240 m, it's NOT efficient to fly at those altitudes.....according to your own logic, E-fool.

Also the Gripen speed advantage is useless because mach 2 speed will burn off the engines at max power, now that's aeronautics science. fact
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agaugust:


Everywhere you go, Indians envy the Pakistani JF-17 Thunder, it annoys them.....rivalry.

Nobody is buying their Tejas jet or even trying to buy it, the thing is not even ready
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agaugust:


Same way Gripen A cannot
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agaugust:


LOL....even old MiG-21 does night combat. Nobody makes a 4th generation air superiority jet that only fights daytime. LOL...E-fool
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agaugust:


[size=16pt]JAS Gripen

J = Junk

A = Aircraft

S= Systems

JAS Gripen = Junk Aircraft Systems Gripen

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agaugust:


The Gripen too will NEVER fly at 15,240 m, it's NOT efficient to fly at those altitudes.....according to your own logic, E-fool.

Also the Gripen speed advantage is useless because mach 2 speed will burn off the engines at max power, now that's aeronautics science. fact
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patches689:


and the JF-17 will not fly at its max speed for the exact same reason

Gripen flying at 70% power is faster than a JF-17 flying at 70% power

agaugust:


Nope, the logic of jet speed is that no fighter goes full blast supersonic power.

Average speed for operation is about 1,400 km/hr to save fuel and engine life.

H.ell , you think air to air combat is an air race kinda Olympics where the fastest engine wins an engagement?

F-35 Lightening speed is mush slower than JF-17 !!!!!

Both Gripen and JF-17 will do that speed conveniently.

Anyway in modern warfare, jet speed for supersonic fighters is no longer a dog fight factor, the m.issiles s.hot at the j.et is always much faster and will cat up with the target.

Hilarious ! This guy thinks Gripen jet will out-run a missile from JF-17.....LOL....E-mumu