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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:36pm On Jun 25, 2015
Henry120:


But the Gripen C/D is barely better than the JF-17 thunder block 1.

Better is better

Barely winning a gold medal at the olympics is still winning a gold medal in the Olympics

It doesnt matter how narrow the win is, you are the winner and your opponent is the loser.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:37pm On Jun 25, 2015
mzilakazi:


Gripen is a winner with BVR.

JF-17 carries hypersonic missiles BVR/Stand Off range....beats the Gripen with faster missiles.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 3:37pm On Jun 25, 2015
agaugust:


Go tell the Pakistanis as JF is the project designation....Joint Fighter.

I gave you a taste of your own medicine and will feed you more spoons full anytime....
JAS-39 is a Swedish air force designation.


Junk fighter is a Pakistan aircraft!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:38pm On Jun 25, 2015
MikeCZAR:



The Gripen carries 5th Generation missiles, those are yet to be integrated into the junk fighter. So it doesn't!


So junk fighter is again beaten in close air to air combat.


In all the Gripen carries superior air to air weaponry.

JF-17 carries hypersonic missiles.

Junk Aircraft Systems Gripen is still stuck at mere supersonic armament and will NEVER carry a nuclear missile like the JF-17
.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 3:39pm On Jun 25, 2015
agaugust:


JF-17 carries hypersonic missiles BVR....beats the Gripen with faster missiles.
There's no hypersonic BVRAAM !


Stop dreaming!

The Gripen carries better AAMs.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:39pm On Jun 25, 2015
MikeCZAR:
India can humiliate Pakistan any day!

Same way India will humiliate Sweden any day.

Same way Pakistan will humiliate South African any day
.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:40pm On Jun 25, 2015
Henry120:


Nope, the Gripen C/D is only marginally better than the JF-17 A/B.

Again i ask, is the %10 difference enough to cost $38 million?

1. The Gripen is better - marginal is irrelevant.
2. You are quoting the price for the entry level JF-17 with allmost no capabilities.

Gripen is worth $60 million, proven by the fact that over 260 Gripen C/D have been purchased
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:42pm On Jun 25, 2015
Henry120:


Swedish over-priced barely capable fighter.

So then Sweden, South African, Brazil, Czechkoslovaki, Thailand and Hungary all got "tricked" into over-paying?

And at the same time, no one has bothered to buy the JF-17?

Yeah, sure

260 Gripen C/D sold.

That says it all.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:42pm On Jun 25, 2015
Henry120:


Nope, the Gripen C/D is only marginally better than the JF-17 A/B.

Again i ask, is the %10 difference enough to cost $38 million?

Sweden's SAAB bribed South African government with millions of dollars to buy the Gripen for the price of two JF-17s grin grin
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:42pm On Jun 25, 2015
agaugust:


South Africa has no money oooooh.....12 Gripen jets in cold storage, no cash for maintenance oooooh

No Gripen in storage

Contract for long term maintenance signed with SAAB

you dont know what you are talking about oooohhhh

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:43pm On Jun 25, 2015
agaugust:


[s]India is world number 4 ranked military power ahead of Britain and France[/s]
.

Some people actually think this
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:43pm On Jun 25, 2015
patches689:


So now we can add the Su25 to the list of airctraft that YOU have claimed that Nigeria have aquired?

Those are not helicopter gunships - and are realativly cheap

OP Biro is not 23 years old

Make a meaningfull post for once in your lifetime

Project Biro is 23 years old!

They are armed utility helicopters, just like the A109 or Bell, nothing cheap about them. Fool!

http://www.janes.com/article/48842/nigeria-looking-for-more-attack-aircraft
The NAF is looking at proposals for upgraded attack aircraft after its attempt to buy AH-1 Cobra helicopters was thwarted
One proposal reportedly endorsed by the NAF involves Puma gunship upgrades and Su-25 fixed-wing ground attack aircraft

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 3:44pm On Jun 25, 2015
agaugust:


JF-17 carries hypersonic missiles.

Junk Aircraft Systems Gripen is still stuck at mere supersonic armament and will NEVER carry a nuclear missile like the JF-17
.
The Gripen carries superior weaponry!

Nuclear weapons don't count!

The F-22 raptor kills Junk fighter any day! Does it carry nuclear weapons?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:44pm On Jun 25, 2015
agaugust:


JF-17 carries hypersonic missiles BVR....beats the Gripen with faster missiles.

Uhhh... you mean the CM-400AKG?

Thats ASM
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:44pm On Jun 25, 2015
MikeCZAR:
South African saab built Gripens!

SA Gripens are way better than the junk fighter.

It required bribery and corruption payments for SAAB to sell Gripen jets overseas tongue tongue

Junk Aircraft Systems JAS Gripen.....only junks need bribery to sell them !
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:45pm On Jun 25, 2015
patches689:


Better is better

As in the case of F-7 Vs MiG-21 ?

#TRAP
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:45pm On Jun 25, 2015
agaugust:


JF-17 carries hypersonic missiles.

Junk Aircraft Systems Gripen is still stuck at mere supersonic armament and will NEVER carry a nuclear missile like the JF-17
.

Does Nigeria have hypersonic missiles or nuclear weapons?

No!!

O sh1t, i forgot, you dont have the JF-17 either!!

lol - nigerians comparing platforms they dont have to platforms we do have cool cool cool
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 3:46pm On Jun 25, 2015
agaugust:

Same way India will humiliate Sweden any day.
Same way Pakistan will humiliate South African any day .
How is that going to be possible? grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

Embec..ile!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:46pm On Jun 25, 2015
agaugust:


Sweden's SAAB bribed South African government with millions of dollars to buy the Gripen for the price of two JF-17s grin grin
.

So they also bribed Sweden, Hungary, Brazil, Czechs and the Thai's?

And no one has been arrested?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 3:47pm On Jun 25, 2015
agaugust:


It required bribery and corruption payments for SAAB to sell Gripen jets overseas tongue tongue

Junk Aircraft Systems JAS Gripen.....only junks need bribery to sell them !
There's no proof of that!

The Gripen won!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:47pm On Jun 25, 2015
MikeCZAR:
JAS-39 is a Swedish air force designation.


Junk fighter is a Pakistan aircraft!

JF-17 is a Chinese/Pakistani designation.

JAS Gripen actually means Junk Aircraft Systems Gripen sold for more than double the value !!!
.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:47pm On Jun 25, 2015
patches689:


So then Sweden, South African, Brazil, Czechkoslovaki, Thailand and Hungary all got "tricked" into over-paying?

And at the same time, no one has bothered to buy the JF-17?

Yeah, sure

260 Gripen C/D sold.

That says it all.

Brazil would operate the Gripen NG.

The other countries you mentioned barely operate the type, and it's the Czech republic, not that cold war gibberish you are spewing.

Hungary lost 2 Gripens in one month, dummy.

Most of(80%) those Gripens are operated by Sweden and South-Africa fool.


In the same vein, Pakistan 250 units, Sri-lanka/ Burma 18-24 examples.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:48pm On Jun 25, 2015
Henry120:


[s]Project Biro is 23 years old!

They are armed utility helicopters, just like the A109 or Bell, nothing cheap about them. Fool!

http://www.janes.com/article/48842/nigeria-looking-for-more-attack-aircraft
The NAF is looking at proposals for upgraded attack aircraft after its attempt to buy AH-1 Cobra helicopters was thwarted
One proposal reportedly endorsed by the NAF involves Puma gunship upgrades and Su-25 fixed-wing ground attack aircraft[/s]

Citation for OP Biro please.

Yeah yeah - Su25 has been added to the list:
- Su30
- Scorpion
- Tucano
- JF-17
- Su-25

Nigerian military keeps window shopping and Nigerians on this forum keep comparing things they DONT HAVE to things we DO HAVE

LOL

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:48pm On Jun 25, 2015
MikeCZAR:
There's no hypersonic BVRAAM !


Stop dreaming!

The Gripen carries better AAMs.

Stand off, ASM....I did not say AAM

http://www.janes.com/article/44897/images-show-jf-17-flying-with-cm-400akg-hypersonic-asm

Junk Aircraft Systems Gripen will NEVER carry a hypersonic missile !
.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:49pm On Jun 25, 2015
Henry120:


Brazil would operate the Gripen NG.

The other countries you mentioned barely operate the type, and it's the Czech republic, not that cold war gibberish you are spewing.

Hungary lost 2 Gripens in one month, dummy.

Most of(80%) those Gripens are operated by Sweden and South-Africa fool.


In the same vein, Pakistan 250 units, Sri-lanka/ Burma 18-24 examples.


grin grin grin grin grin

.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:49pm On Jun 25, 2015
agaugust:


It required bribery and corruption payments for SAAB to sell Gripen jets overseas tongue tongue

Junk Aircraft Systems JAS Gripen.....only junks need bribery to sell them !

Now this is shitposting
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:50pm On Jun 25, 2015
patches689:


1. The Gripen is better - marginal is irrelevant.
2. You are quoting the price for the entry level JF-17 with allmost no capabilities.

Gripen is worth $60 million, proven by the fact that over 260 Gripen C/D have been purchased

It needed bribery and corruption to sell a Gripen for double it's true value....Junk Aircraft Systems Gripen.....sells with bribes grin grin
.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:51pm On Jun 25, 2015
agaugust:


JF-17 is a Chinese/Pakistani designation.

JAS Gripen actually means Junk Aircraft Systems Gripen sold for more than double the value !!!
.

Funny thing is, you are the only person who calls it that!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:51pm On Jun 25, 2015
MikeCZAR:



The Gripen carries 5th Generation missiles, those are yet to be integrated into the junk fighter. So it doesn't!


So junk fighter is again beaten in close air to air combat.


In all the Gripen carries superior air to air weaponry.

This is what the JF-17 carries

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 3:51pm On Jun 25, 2015
agaugust:


JF-17 is a Chinese/Pakistani designation.

JAS Gripen actually means Junk Aircraft Systems Gripen sold for more than double the value !!!
.
Junk fighter is not designation but what the JF-17 is!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 3:52pm On Jun 25, 2015
Henry120:

This is what the JF-17 carries
So?
The Gripen still carries superior weaponry!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:53pm On Jun 25, 2015
Henry120:


Brazil would operate the Gripen NG.

The other countries you mentioned barely operate the type, and it's the Czech republic, not that cold war gibberish you are spewing.

Hungary lost 2 Gripens in one month, dummy.

Most of(80%) those Gripens are operated by Sweden and South-Africa fool.


In the same vein, Pakistan 250 units, Sri-lanka/ Burma 18-24 examples.

Fact is: 260 Gripen C/D sold (this figure excludes the NG)

Fact is: just over 100 JF-17 ordered (ONLY BY PAKISTAN)

Fact is: Gripen operated by 5 nations (6 including NG)

Fact is: JF-17 operated by 1 nation


JF-17 is the "Gripen" being sold for $25 million - but no one will buy it!! That says everything!!

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