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The Source Of Yoruba From Benin Is Very Authentic by kalus(m): 4:09pm On Jun 25, 2015 |
Culled from VANGUARD Thursday, May 20, 2004 The statement credited to Oba Erediauwa Omonoba Uku Akpolokpolo, that the Yoruba race originated from Benin Kingdom, was very rich in details and calls for re-examination by historians of high repute from all the Nigerian Universities and recognized institutions not from uneducated and bias sources of chambers or shrines of some Obas or traditional rulers as presently being envisaged or contemplated. The statement from Ooni of Ife disputing the fact of Oba of Benin was not strong enough. I was fascinated by the different versions of uncoordinated folk stories we were told about the origin of the Yoruba. As a Yoruba man from Abeokuta I was told Oduduwa was the first man created by God just like the Bible said Adam and Eve were the first to be created by God. The Bible says Cain the only surviving child of Adam and Eve went to another city called Nod to marry his wife. The question is who created the wife, the wife's parents or the family of the in-law if any. Just like I asked in my innocent mind as a student in the primary school then who created Oduduwa and how did Oduduwa marry his wife? My Teacher never told me the answer. We were even told Oduduwa was the son of Lamurudu from far East in Saudi Arabia and that some of our Yoruba cousin can be found in Uganda. Many conflicting stories which are very difficult to prove or binding on history. These are some of the missing gaps of history. Oduduwa had sixteen children we were told and the eldest was Orangun of Ila and the Egbas in Abeokuta were descendants of the female child of Oduduwa named Alaketu. None ever disputed the fact that Oranmiyan the last born of Oduduwa also ruled the Benin Kingdom. Why did Benin allowed the last child of Oduduwa to be made a king over them or his descendants, if there was no blue blood connection? Oba of Benin gave a detailed account of fact of history that are very difficult to dispute. The Yoruba share so many things in common with the Edo's in names and culture, which must be the reason why it is very difficult to dispute the version of Omonoba Uku Akpolokpolo. Again, to the Bible, Adam and Eve never told or shown Cain the only surviving child the Garden of Eden where God created them, just like Oduduwa never shown the place and real evidence how he was created by God. Archeologically, the Yoruba race is not more than 2000 years meaning other tribes existed before the Oduduwa appearance. None availability of any other serious fact to negate this lend credibility to Oba Benin's version. Two versions of history both version of History from Oba of Benin and Yoruba agreed that Oramiyan the last son of Oduduwa returned to Ife from Benin after he installed his son, Eweka the first as Oba of Benin. He met his father Oduduwa who was very advanced in age and blind, more also all properties had been shared and distributed among his fifteen brothers and sisters. Alternatively, seven brothers according to Oba of Benin, Oduduwa was at a dilemma on what to do because he assumed Benin Kingdom would be enough as Oranmiyan's inheritance. Both version of history agreed that the name Benin meant "the land of the annoyed" because Oranmiyan left the place in annoyance. Again, Oba of Benin was right on this. Oduduwa found an easy way out. He gave Oranmiyan his staff as symbol to show his brothers and sisters to be able to collect ten percent of revenue derived from yearly harvest throughout Yoruba land. With this, Oranmiyan was able to collect over 150 percent of all the returns throughout the uncoordinated kingdom. Oduduwa also grudgingly agreed to allow his last son Oranmiyan to be king at Ile Ife after his death. The reason for this was unknown as this was against the custom and tradition of giving priority to first child or son who was Ila of Irangun. On the other hand, could it be said that Orangun was too afraid to challenge his junior brother or Oranmiyan was indeed the senior? This is something the present Orangun of Ila should explain. Oduduwa was primarily a priest and voodoo man. It is said until today that it is only one day that is free of ritual worship in Ile Ife and the day is never made public. Oduduwa took vacation just for one day. In one of the ritual ceremonies where nobody was allowed to be seen outside, a foreign woman of no means of tracing her background was captured and was to be used as scarifices for the gods. She was later spared because she was found to be pregnant beside, it was against ritual requirement. The child from the woman was dedicated to the gods and act as a servant to assist Oduduwa in his day-to-day ritual and voodoo job. The child was named Ooni: meaning "this is Spared One". After the death of Oduduwa his son, Oranmiyan was invited to take over the job of his father, which was primarily ritual and voodoo, as well as traditional ruler of Ile Ife. Oranmiyan refused because he had succeeded in building an economically viable place at Oyo Ile with administratively sound method of government around the Oyomesi council in chief and it would be degrading to leave this and move to Ile Ife to be involved in daily ritual sacrifices. Oranmiyan gave a condition that he must be buried at Ife to symbolise his right to Ife thrown. It was on condition of this that Ooni the son of the slave woman that was captured and dedicated to gods that was assisting Oduduwa continued the work of Oduduwa at Ife. This is the reason why ALafin of Oyo will never accept Ooni of Ife as a king or a superior in any Yoruba gathering of Obas. Ooni's assumed superiority was a British creation because the King of England assumed a king at Ife, the cradle of Yoruba, must be superior to all Obas just like the British did in Abeokuta by imposing Alake's superiority over other Obas at Abeokuta. In case of Egbas, Sorunke who led the Egbas from Ibadan to the present Abeokuta was from Oke Ona, where Oba Tejuoso is the King. This is the reason why there is conflict between Alake and Osile till date. Oranmiyan was buried at Ife and not at Oyo, which is the reason for the Opa Oranyan at Ife till today. Ooni was not a true son or direct descendant of Oduduwa and his title was not recognised. Ooni was just his name which became his title. Ooni like other Yoruba Obas paid duties to Oranmiyan during and after the death of Oduduwa. This practice stopped after the Oyo Empire was destroyed. It is rather difficult to accept the Ooni's version as against the Omonoba Polopolo. Oranmiyan was a belligerent person. A war hero and where his brothers and sister refused to give the yearly ten percent duty as agreed with the staff of Oduduwa he would use force. He later appointed his representatives in each of the kingdoms of Yoruba to monitor the returns, thus the creation of Oyo Empire that led to the end of the kingdom Oduduwa created which was not properly coordinated. The new empire grew with amazing rapidity throughout West Africa and was like the Ghana or Shonghai Empire of the medieval history in the south of Sahara. Oyo Empire started slave trade to weaken opposition. An administration like the British Oranmiyan's administration was the best in Africa and could be likened to the British system of Administration during the colonial government. The empire expanded up to the present Benin republic. Those who escaped the control of Alafin are the Yorubas living in Benin Republic, which was formerly Dahomey, On the East side, Oranmiyan never bothered Benin Kingdom because of his son, and his son never looked for him. At least there was no record of history of any transaction between father and son. Benin Kingdom continued to progress and Oyo Empire continued to expand to the west coast. In Lagos, there could not be a clash, it was a place of reunion for Edo's and Yoruba it was said Eko, which is Lagos, and in our local dialect is a Benin word. Oyo Empire later suffered from over expansion and some local hero started to emerge to challenge the authority of the Oyo kingdom or that of the Alafin of Oyo. Among them was the Lisabi Agboagbo Akala who liberated the Egbas from Oyo Empire to create a fearless Egba Kingdom. Lisabi was never a king. In fact, he was murdered by the Alake of Egbaland because of his popularity. Egbas as a kingdom with its own National Anthem "Lori Oke ati Pele" was merged with Nigeria by the British Empire after 1914. In addition, Lagelu emerged from Ibadan, Ogendegbe from Ijeshaland and Shou of Ogbomosho and Ilorin through the deserter Chief of Army Staff of Oyo who was killed by Alimi a Fulani; thus, the end of Oyo Empire. The attack from the Sokoto Caliphate from the North finally nailed the coffin of the Oyo Empire.The collapse of the Oyo Empire led to the Yoruba Wars. The present Oyo town has nothing to do with Old Oyo town, it was just a new creation to symbolise the memory of the Old. The Egbas and Ijebus took over the control of southwest towards the Atlantics because of lucrative slave trade and closeness to the white man. The emergence of western civilisation further weakened the Old Oyo Empire, the empire collapsed and the ruminants of it can still be found at the old site. The irony of it is Alafin of Oyo in the present Oyo town continued to live in the memory of his ancestors' glory of the Old Oyo Empire. In conclusion, Ooni who is not a direct son or descendants of Oduduwa cannot be considered viable in this discussion, but Alafin of Oyo must examine his place in history and that of his senior brother Orangun of Ila the first son who had disappeared into history because he never challenged Oranmiyan. The abdication of the thrown is a loss of right. However, can a son be greater than his father? or can a river be greater than its source? The source of Yoruba from Benin is very authentic than Saudi Arabia or Lamurudu, which cannot be traced, in Saudi Arabian history |
Re: The Source Of Yoruba From Benin Is Very Authentic by Juxtified(m): 4:32pm On Jun 25, 2015 |
Of course its authentic. Don't know why the yorubas are so afraid to accept it |
Re: The Source Of Yoruba From Benin Is Very Authentic by absoluteSuccess: 4:46pm On Jun 25, 2015 |
How to claim Yoruba is fast becoming benin history here. Whatever happens to igodomigodo, ewuare and ogiso? They dont compare to the glorious name Oduduwa? SMH. |
Re: The Source Of Yoruba From Benin Is Very Authentic by kalus(m): 4:49pm On Jun 25, 2015 |
Juxtified:I don't know ooooo There's an interesting controversy going on in Nigeria about Yoruba origins. Oba of Benin Erediauwa had traced the history of Oduduwa to one Ekaledehan, a Benin Prince. The Ooni of Ife, Oba Okunade Sijuwade said Oduduwa descended by Chain from Heaven - what a story!! (And to think it I used to believe it ) Now Oba of Lagos is supporting the Oba of Benin on Yoruba history |
Re: The Source Of Yoruba From Benin Is Very Authentic by tpiadotcom: 5:03pm On Jun 25, 2015 |
This is a repeat thread i think, is it not? |
Re: The Source Of Yoruba From Benin Is Very Authentic by absoluteSuccess: 5:08pm On Jun 25, 2015 |
Juxtified:Because they know you can go all the way to authenticate any of your fanciful fable from a baseless and unknown writer as culled from the pages of a sourceless newspaper, written to lend a voice to a kings biography turned canonbook, as is the practise of establishing truth known to you, kids. The year this writeup turn out was the year the king of edo published his memoirs and created the edo Oduduwa. that the name of the writer of the op is missing shows the mischief maker want to hide something. We all know where vanguard is coming from (mouthpiece of the east, before 'daily sun' took over) how can a nonentity's whitewash of Yoruba history become evidence-in-chief to authenticate a story? is because it appear as 'unknown reader's opinion' on vanguard that made it 'authentic fact of history'? |
Re: The Source Of Yoruba From Benin Is Very Authentic by Habayomie(m): 5:27pm On Jun 25, 2015 |
From this write-up,where is it written that Oduduwa hails/migrated from Benin kingdom?? The two kingdoms co-existed.simple. None came from each-other!! 1 Like |
Re: The Source Of Yoruba From Benin Is Very Authentic by tpiadotcom: 5:32pm On Jun 25, 2015 |
Re: The Source Of Yoruba From Benin Is Very Authentic by scholes0(m): 8:08pm On Jun 25, 2015 |
kalus: Edo/Bini people should stop trying to twist history...... You current royal lineage is from Yorubaland (Ile-Ife to be precise) and before that, you say you were ruled by Ogisos (Sky Kings), which is eerily similar to the Yoruba story of Oduduwa descending from the heavens...... Just accept the truth. 1 Like |
Re: The Source Of Yoruba From Benin Is Very Authentic by macof(m): 12:03am On Jun 26, 2015 |
scholes0:have you heard any yoruba elder tell you Oduduwa descended from heaven? Wtf has "descending from heaven" got to do with a living breathing man? Dats spiritual stuff |
Re: The Source Of Yoruba From Benin Is Very Authentic by scholes0(m): 12:08am On Jun 26, 2015 |
macof: Please, What are you saying? I dont get your point..... According to some Yoruba Oral traditions, Oduduwa came from the Sky. (that was at the time he was sent by Olodumare the Supreme being, to create man) read up. |
Re: The Source Of Yoruba From Benin Is Very Authentic by macof(m): 12:14am On Jun 26, 2015 |
scholes0:What I am saying is the descending from heaven bit is spiritual not about the King Like other Orisas, it's left for you to identify the historic and spiritual |
Re: The Source Of Yoruba From Benin Is Very Authentic by absoluteSuccess: 5:58am On Jun 26, 2015 |
macof:You are the only Yoruba with this historical/spiritual duality of Oduduwa's origin. The idea is your baby. No need anchor it on the elders as they may be clueless about it. Where do you think the 'historical Oduduwa' came from? |
Re: The Source Of Yoruba From Benin Is Very Authentic by kalus(m): 8:52am On Jun 26, 2015 |
scholes0: was Oduduwa, Adams? the first man on earth. so you still believe this cock and bull story 1 Like |
Re: The Source Of Yoruba From Benin Is Very Authentic by absoluteSuccess: 9:11am On Jun 26, 2015 |
kalus:Is bible a collection of Yoruba tales? Why cant you seperate historical tradition of a people from a theological tradition from foreign land on this, Adam? Please train up your mind, you are on culture section of nairaland, not in Bible study or sunday school. 1 Like |
Re: The Source Of Yoruba From Benin Is Very Authentic by macof(m): 10:06am On Jun 26, 2015 |
absoluteSuccess: Am not the only one. Where do you think I got the idea from? An Igbo ![]() I've met a babalawo who talked about Oduduwa in ways that couldn't relate to a King of the 12th/13th century...igba iwa that Oduduwa brought to create the world, would a human being create the world that predated him? priests symbolically use it and no woman can see it I think it is Odu Osa meji that talked about the marriage between Odu and Orunmila which gave all coming Babalawos the power of the Igba Iwa What I don't know is the connection between Odu and Oduduwa. ..some babas are never clear Without any solid evidence I think Oduduwa came from Igala/Okun area 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Source Of Yoruba From Benin Is Very Authentic by absoluteSuccess: 11:14am On Jun 26, 2015 |
macof:Without any solid evidence, then the pristine source of the story of Oduduwa remains. Because if that source has not mentioned Oduduwa, maybe the secondary revisionists wont have a focal name amongst thousands of folk heros we have. Why dont Edos claim Orunmila? Because their claim is a game. Ayunlo ayunbo l'owo nyenu. 1 Like |
Re: The Source Of Yoruba From Benin Is Very Authentic by fatiaforreal: 5:38pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
His Majesty, Oba of Benin, needs to explain further why Oranmiyan became the first Oba of Benin and not the 32nd Ogiso. It's like saying an Igbo prince was brought home from Ibadan to rule over a kingdom in igboland as the firstOba of that kingdom. If Oranmiyan was indeed the son of the fleeing Ekalerdahan, he would have ruled as an Ogiso, not as an Oba. In truth, the Oba made a good effort in correcting some impression about Oduduwa which Yorubas have failed to do over time, deliberately or not. However, the story by the his majesty that Ekalerdahan fled to Ife and was made the ruler because he was good to the people especially in the area of traditional medicine is a huje historical joke, it doesn't hold any water. It's a case of replacing one lie with another. Ekerlerdahan probably ended in the belly of a leopard in the jungle and is by no means comparable to the great Oduduwa. The truth is, Oduduwa was the head of a formidable migrant group who took over Ife in a pure military conquest from the original inhabitants, the Ugbo people led by Obatala. Though, Oduduwa the great set up an all inclusive government, it is understandable life couldn't have been the same with the people of Ugbo, hence they resorted to guerilla warfare , taking the new Ife people as slaves. Ugbo people are still in existence today, refered to as Ilajes, in the riverine area of Ondo state. The Ugbos had their history of ile Ife, strikingly similar to the history given by the Oduduwa party. According to the Ugbos, Ajanoron(Ajalorun) came from heaven to create Ife; his son Oromakin was the first ruler, Olugbo of Ugbo. The Ugbos had lived for centuries prior to arrival of Oduduwa. Oduduwa's Ife gave their own story thus: Oduduwa came down from heaven to create Ife. The same story, different names. According to both account, the first Ife was destroyed by flood which led to migration to the present Ile Ife. The question is where was the first Ife? History have it that west Africa was the last part of Africa to be populated by humans; kingdoms in the northern parts of Nigeria are much older than those in the south. The Niger Benue confluence is the place of disperse of most of the people in the southern part of Nigeria. The people who migrated from this confluence, the first to settle in present Ife were known as the Kwa people. Another group also migrated from the confluence to present day Benin, they were known as EFA people, but some fewer people were already on ground. Those already on ground were the Ijaw people. Ijaw quarters in Benin are the oldest human settlement in Benin. The most authoritative source of Benin history as far as the world is concerned remains Jacob Egarevba whose work corroborated those of historians of antiquity. According to his book, the earliest Bini people came from Nupe which is stil within the Benue confluence civilization. This is where Benin originated from as well as the earliest Yoruba people, the Ugbos. The Ugbos were joined in second Ife by the Oduduwa group whose migration through Sudan, Borgu, Nupe, and down to Ife was documented in Arabic by Sultan of Sokoto, Sultan Muhammad Bello,1779-1839, to found the first citystate in southern Nigeria, marking the fusion of the different groups and the birth of the Yoba kingdom. It is not true that Ekalerdahan was Oduduwa. Read the history of the Ijaws and see the real Oduduwa. Oshodi Olalekan |
Re: The Source Of Yoruba From Benin Is Very Authentic by tpiar: 5:59pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
so what is the meaning of what you typed? ![]() |
Re: The Source Of Yoruba From Benin Is Very Authentic by macof(m): 3:13am On Dec 15, 2015 |
fatiaforreal. Northern kingdoms are older than southern ones? Says who? Yoruba came from nupe, Borgu? ?? Says who? |
Re: The Source Of Yoruba From Benin Is Very Authentic by fatiaforreal: 1:03pm On May 25, 2016 |
MATTER FINALLY LAID TO REST From the custodians of the Ogiso tradition, one of the oldest families in Igodomigodo/Benin, The Ogiamien Family, have declared: 1) Obas of Benin are tenants while Ogiamiens are Landlords as evidenced by Ekiopa treaty 2) Oduduwa had no link with Ogisos 3) The tittle Oba, was forced on Binis by Oranmiyan 4) That the Obas of Benin are historically from Ife. Who could have more facts than the Aborigenes who are descendants of the Ogisos, the Ogiamien? They also debunked the Ekalerdahan fabrication as an attempt to hide the origin of the Obas, and confirmed Ife as older than Benin. Pls read it up yourself. |
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