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Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by Achilies(m): 4:56pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
Over confidence made tinubu to underestimate saraki and that have cost dearly.. Saraki is just a front. The real politicians tinubu should be worried about are those arewa politicians. They are out to clip his wings. It's no longer a pdp and apc battle It is now a regional thing and the north ( anpp and cpc) are out to reduce the influence of tinubu (acn) I much as the can. Saraki wouldn't have won the seat of SP without the help of some top northern politicians.... Saraki is not the real threat if tinubu wants to regain is popularity he should first destroy those behind saraki. Saraki is just a front the real enemies are those behind him. 1 Like |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by NgeneUkwenu(f): 4:56pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
lolababe331e: I am at a loss too! Anyway I will do an interesting thread tomorrow, if I have the chance... |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by NgeneUkwenu(f): 4:58pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
Achilies: So all the Members of Reps from Kastina, Kano, Zamafara, Jigawa etc we saw clearly on TV trying to break Dogara's head are all anti Tinubu? Learners!!! 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by kinibigdeal(m): 5:02pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
worldmoney: Not only SS/SE now in SW I can assure you that. Tinubu don't create influence he buy influence which makes him a bad leader BUT Obasanjo create influence which makes him a Nationalist. Even in is farm without bribing he can install, forestall and forcast influence. That's why politicians will continue to visit him. Right now in Africa, obasanjo remain a force internationally. Someone that went to Bukina faso then to stop the coup with just a single warning. That's a leader with influence not a mere ex governor ruining state's to buy influence. That's what barcanista fails to acknowledge |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by galadima77(m): 5:06pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
I've always known only an FC Barcelona fan can be this objective in matters beyond soccer... nice piece |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by oladele97: 5:08pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
horlabiyi:his he the only only politician who work with Awo and Abiola, where is omoboriowo and others |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by Nobody: 5:13pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
kinibigdeal:Well point of correction, on Obanikoro I said Koro was an Ally and a former commissioner under Tinubu. Now to address your question on Funsho williams. Firstly, Funsho left AD in 2003. Koro left AD in 2005. In fact, Koro was elected Senator under AD in 2003 while Funso lost 2003 Guber to Tinubu. Funsho's exit didn't crumble AD as AD stood firm and defeated him in 2003. But since Tinubu Éxit, AD became history. Obanikoro won the Senatorial ticket in 2003 because of his good stewardship as Home Affairs Commissioner and his relationship with Tinubu. Did Tinubu betray Afenifere? There was a power play over the control of structure, Tinubu left them with his followers. As for Saraki, he isn't the first SP but I can list 6 SPs that has come and gone without having prominence. As for Saraki's betrayal that is out of question. By the way: there is a big difference between someone that controls political structure and someone that occupies political office 6 Likes |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by kennylawd: 5:13pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
mikeansy:For those us that understood the politics of Tinubu's sell out to GEJ in 2011 to betray Bakare and the alliance with CPC, we know that APC cannot stand or win the Presidential elections without Tinubu political and financial support |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by hadura29(m): 5:29pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
barcanista of all people, I comment my reserve... Hmmmm I smell fish... Hala Madrid.. barcanista: |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by OgaInnocent(m): 5:30pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
Zeezy99: My brother ur head dey there. U correct die! Tinubu was once powerful, but Tinubu is no longer powerful...his reign has expired. As simple as that. |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by Longluk: 5:34pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
One thing that the OP didn't mention is that....both of them are not indegene of Lagos and Kwara. Tinubu hail from Iragbiji in Osun State while Saraki is from Ogun state before his father come to Kwara to be Godfather. |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by duality(m): 5:40pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
NgeneUkwenu: I meant that he is now also part of the party leadership. |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by Achilies(m): 5:41pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
[color=#000099][/color] NgeneUkwenu: My dear all those things na public display o. Nothing more. Do u honestly think that saraki would have been elected as SP without the backing of some heavy weights? Tinubu should not underestimate any politician in a federal level.. Ask yourself this. Who called those 51apc senators to icc for a meeting?. And how come only only tinubu loyalist seems to be the only once who attended the so called meeting? |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by NgeneUkwenu(f): 5:49pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
duality: Ok Better! I will do a thread on that tomorrow! |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by eliwa47(m): 5:52pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
why are we comparing death with sleep? who's saraki compared with jagaban? Hmmmm!! 1 Like |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by onatisi(m): 5:54pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
oladele97:tinubu would never have been the governor of lagos state ,if not for the fact the he begged and begged baba adesanya and co then to change the results of AD primaries to favour him .it was funsho williams that won the AD governorship in house primaries then but he had to be appeased because of the fact that tinubu spent heavily on nadeco and AD ,and the only way to compensate him was the ticket. Then baba adesanya ,faale and co were the political godfathers then and also yoruba leaders,tinubu rode on their platform and later destroyed it in order to create his own . |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by duality(m): 5:56pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
NgeneUkwenu: will be waiting to read it. |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by NgeneUkwenu(f): 5:56pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
Achilies: How many times, will I lecture you guys that, what Saraki did was no brainer? It takes an elementary treachery and betrayal skill to pull it off. Even a deaf and dumb can pull that off. Do you think if APC Had supported Saraki, PDP would have voted him instead of Lawan? Remember PDP had stated in their retreat that they were waiting to see who APC backs, so that they can vote enblock for their opponent. And you cannot begrudge PDP on that, at least having 49 Senators is not something you can wave off. Saraki betrayed his party simple! 1 Like |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by OAM4J: 5:57pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
This is barcanista when he chooses to be objective and not just write to support his party interest. My friend barca, you will do much better when you decide to write always on a neutral ground. @topic I have never been a fan of Tinubu but I laugh when people compare Saraki to Tunubu. Politically Tinubu is thousands of miles away from Saraki. When Saraki forms his party and has 2 more states in addition to Kwara under his party then I will begin to see him as an heavyweight. Presently he is only Kwara godfather like Adedibu used to be at Oyo; thanks to Amala politics which has been re-branded by Fayose as Stomach infrastructure. As it stands Saraki is on a dangerous ground, everyone is now dealing with him with care and he cannot be trusted by any party. Should APC expel him, I doubt he can find a home in PDP and he is not grounded enough to start his own party. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by JustCalMeDBoss(m): 6:00pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
My take even though tinubu has more weight so was saraki's father, when he tried to impose his daughter, saraki's sister on kwara saraki won him. So will saraki win tinubu. Goliath thought he was everything until he met david. |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by Nobody: 6:04pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
Duality, I understand what you mean but I tell you that a man like Saraki does not deserve PDP lifeline. I also believe we shouldn't really back him so as not be seen as rewarding treacherous people and backstabbers. GEJ gave all to Saraki yet he stabbed him. Tinubu have no such history and honestly, I have no sympathy for Saraki duality: 1 Like |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by barcaboi(m): 6:11pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
u make sense bro.....a totally unbiased view |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by winniz: 6:15pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
barcanista: Which Tinubu are you laundering his image? same Tinubu that collected 5b from Jonathan and betrayed his presidential candidate in 2011 or same Tinubu that sold the speaker ship that was zoned to SW to tambuwal? 1 Like |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by lurther: 6:16pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
Hahahahaaha! After campaigning for saraki to be senate president, you so suddenly turn around to support Tinubu. It seems as if you are for the highest Bidder at any point in time. Since you said you are now trying to be neutral, should nigerians as a whole now accept Tinubu's imposition of senate president, deputy, HOR Speaker and deputy on all Nigerians? It seems to me that you are a mercantile on nairaland. Today you are for PDP, tomorrow APC, next tomorrow Tinubu, another day GEJ. Later you start to edit and delete your threads. Are you any different from the treacherous Saraki? barcanista: 3 Likes |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by Achilies(m): 6:22pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
[color=#000099][/color] NgeneUkwenu: Ok I hav heard u. |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by winniz: 6:23pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
Barcanista simply just tell nairalanders you have gone back to APC and stop fooling yourself, APC have paid you to come launder Tinubus image and attack Saraki. I guess you have forgotten how you were supporting Saraki to become SP all of a sudden you are now praising Tinubu and attacking same Saraki you once supported. You are just a political jobber. 1 Like |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by Nobody: 6:39pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
winniz:What happened in 2011 was Tinubu an ACN man mobilising for a PDP rebel to spite PDP and for the interest of his party. That to me is not "backstabbing". winniz:Nobody paid me any money. For the record I've Never liked Saraki because of his deeds. My support for him was for the interest of PDP and not Saraki. In fact, it would have been the opposite if Saraki was the APC anointed. In the article I only laid matter to bare without singing anybody's praise and for the record, Saraki isn't a PDP man and is not a PDP asset. Saraki don't even deserve PDP's patronage or sympathy because of his antecedents. In fact, I will be the last person to sing his praise and I look forward to the day that he will be treated for what he is. PDP only need to use Saraki when they need to and dump him when the time comes. We don't need to be concerned of his political fortune or misfortune. 2 Likes |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by Midastorch(m): 6:40pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
You just nailed it.thats the truth nothing but the truth..I use to say this.if Mohammed Lawal is to be alive the Saraki clan would have been history by now. |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by fx45(m): 6:44pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
Eshinwaju:He has always been a PDP man from time immemorial.... We have pardoned his unfortunate and ill-advised misadventure to APC. He has seen the light and he is back to the fold now. Just like Saraki and his co-travellers will also return in due course. The era of chanting about voodoo change is gone |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by Nobody: 6:46pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
lurther:For the record I've Never liked Saraki because of his deeds. My support for him for SP position was for the interest of PDP and not Saraki. In fact, it would have been the opposite if Saraki was the APC anointed. In the article I only laid matter to bare without singing anybody's praise and for the record, Saraki isn't a PDP man and is not a PDP asset. Saraki don't even deserve PDP's patronage or sympathy because of his antecedents. In fact, I will be the last person to sing his praise and I look forward to the day that he will be treated for what he is. PDP only need to use Saraki when they need to and dump him when the time comes. We don't need to be concerned of his political fortune or misfortune. As for treachery, I've never benefitted from any party whether APC or PDP. I've never been in the employ of any candidate. Any party that I decide to support should be grateful to me and if I decide to drop my support, the party or candidate should move on because I gave my support at my own volition. It would have been different IF after benefitting a lot from a party or candidate, I turn my back at that party or candidate. That is what treachery is. Meanwhile, I don't see how this article negatively affects PDP and I am still PDP. 1 Like |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by kinibigdeal(m): 6:47pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
barcanista: What an infinitesimal defense from you! To go with your point, how did Tinubu's exit destroy AD that Funsho williams exit didn't? What a puzzle that need a back tract explanation from you. What led to the destruction of AD initiated by Tinubu that the arrow is not deflecting back today?. Probably your self praise of a Fiasco needs a masterpiece of brevity. You are erroneously wrong to say Obanikoro became a senator due to his stewardship and relationship with Tinubu. You are already exposing your sympathy Brother. Probably you need to know some fact about Obanikoro himself who remain a contemporary to Tinubu CV for CV(Ain't talking about buying influence and corrupting our judicial system to gain control). Obanikoro was formally a chairman of Surulere Local Govt under AD, a state deputy chairman under Otedola administration(military governor then), chairman Lagos island, A founder of grassroots democratic movement(GDM) that fought Abacha to standstill E.t.c..Are you saying a man with such rising profile before he became a senator got the senatorial ticket because of Tinubu influence? Then I will ironically say tinubu got is governorship ticket because of Obanikoro influence against Funsho williams candidacy "what a conglomerate premises you are creating bro". Back to Saraki and Tinubu's connotation, Saraki remain a force to reckon with in this country and a senior citizen with the constitutional power to silence Tinubu forever. Saraki is the senate president of the Federal Republic of Nigeria(wikipidia) while Tinubu is regarded as one of the leaders in APC solely. Spot the difference before you miss your flight bro! In Tinubu's political career he will never be and he will remain ONLY the leader or Asiwaju of APC(That's if APC remains before 2019). He has never been a Nationalist but a mere governor through the mistakes of Pa. Olu Falae and co while saraki is now a Nationalist with the constitutional power to interfere in the affairs of this country regarding external threat, internal threat, resource reform etc if Saraki and Buhari is holding a close door meeting regarding the country, a Tinubu cannot do that with Buhari because he is a party man. Now saying someone that control mainly is party is stronger than someone that has the constitutional power to make, amend laws regarding the country "Is a statement gone too far and out of proportion" 1 Like |
Re: Saraki Vs Tinubu Comparism: Why Overrate Bukola Saraki? by HzRF(m): 6:48pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
shidof:Just because it doesn't suit you own perceive sense and reasoning If I reason hw u want. Will that put food on ur table All I listed ain't hearsay Itz fact |
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