UyiIredia:


Instead of being surprised prove me wrong. Show me a verse that states that polygamy is wrong.

What God has put together, no man should put assunder... Mark 10.9

That sums it all...

Adultery i know and agree with...lets leave it at that

You call it piffles but the amount of violence in the world increased drastically from the early 20th century
Nerve gas
H bomb A bomb
Now we have anthrax and terrorism...

FrancisTony:

Matthew5:17
Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fufill.

Reference to fufill - In the beginning, God made Adam and Eve to live as a Man and a Woman not a Man and many women.
Jews made their LAW to be polygamous and that's why Jesus said he didn't come to destroy but fufill it meaning their law wasn't okay.

1Corinthians7 : 2

Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband.



Well, I don't believe in Jehovah witness piffles.

masonkz:


And you're being intelligent with this post of yours?

Who talked about polygamy being right or wrong here?

Your comments suggest you dislike polygamy or the idea of it being legalized. Correct me if I'm wrong.

FrancisTony:

What God has put together, no man should put assunder... Mark 10.9

That sums it all...

Loooooool ! OH MY GOD ! Abeg Francis, no kill person. Ye ! How dis one take talk say polygamy is forbidden ?

pickabeau1:


i wish u did not bring bible into your liberal agenda
The Bible is clear on same sex relations

The angels were hosted by Lot in Sodom and the people preferred to lay with men as against women
yet you say na inhospital..

Gen 19.1 -9

dont twist the Bible... support your homolove as a personal thing
Dont bring Bible into it







And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;

2 And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.

3 And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat.

4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:

5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,

7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.

8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

9 And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.

Interesting!. Are we talking of same bible that said the below?

1st Corinthians 14:34-35

Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church

I do hope you all adhere to this, else judgement awaits you all.

:-

I dont see your point

masonkz:


Interesting!. Are we talking of same bible that said the below?

1st Corinthians 14:34-35

Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church

I do hope you all adhere to this, else judgement awaits you all.

:-

pickabeau1:
I dont see your point

My post is stop quoting bible only when it comes to gay people!

Does not change what it says

The Bible advocates submission...it is quoted

It advocates fidelity... it is quoted

Are u also a christian gay?

masonkz:


My post is stop quoting bible only when it comes to gay people!

UyiIredia:


Your comments suggest you dislike polygamy or the idea of it being legalized. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Interesting.

And in which of my posts did you come to this conclusion?? Of course you'd be ready to jump into all sorts of conclusion.


I'm all for equal rights and fairness in a relationship. If the women are happy and are actually supporting polygamy being legalised, I'd gladly carry out a placade to support them.

pickabeau1:
Does not change what it says

The Bible advocates submission...it is quoted

It advocates fidelity... it is quoted

The bible advocates slavery, it is quoted.

The bible advocates women being silent in churches, it is quoted.

Infact the bible advocates many things that christians discard today all in the name of old testament and what not.

pickabeau1:
Are u also a christian gay?

I'm gay, and no I don't see myself a Christian.

masonkz:


The bible advocates slavery, it is quoted.

On the slavery part.. it was christians who actually abolished slavery...can u show it
The Bible all men are equal before God..both the Jew and the Greek

Infact the bible advocates many things that christians discard today all in the name of old testament and what not.

I'm gay, and no I don't see myself a Christian.

We are clear then...

No problem then

masonkz:



Interesting.

And in which of my posts did you come to this conclusion?? Of course you'd be ready to jump into all sorts of conclusion.


I'm all for equal rights and fairness in a relationship. If the women are happy and are actually supporting polygamy being legalised, I'd gladly carry out a placade to support them.

Then you should get that placard ready since the people involved in such relationships do so by consent.

UyiIredia:


Then you should get that placard ready since the people involved in such relationships do so by consent.

sigh.


Read my post again, and reply accordingly.

pickabeau1:

On the slavery part.. it was christians who actually abolished slavery

Christians abolishing slavery doesn't negate the fact that the bible supports it. Nor does it change the fact that the bible post I quoted some posts away, is right there in the bible.

masonkz:


Christians abolishing slavery doesn't negate the fact that the bible supports it. Nor does it change the fact that the bible post I quoted some posts away, is right there in the bible.

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Show me where the bible advocates slavery
The Bible even declared a Jubilee (every 7 years) where slaves must be freed

masonkz:


SMH.

Again, how many women in USA are calling out for polygamous marriage?

You just keep going in circles without facing the real question here.

Look, I don't enjoy answering one question many times, if you can't grasp simple logic, its not my fault....

How many men called for gender equality....
It as simple as ABC, America recognises the rights of consenting adult men to marry, why must they now impinge on the right of an adult man to marry 2 consenting women?
Isn't consent the base?
It now falls on the woman to choose to marry or not to marry? And if married, they can divorce... QED

masonkz:


Interesting!. Are we talking of same bible that said the below?

1st Corinthians 14:34-35

Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church

I do hope you all adhere to this, else judgement awaits you all.

:-

Now I see you just want to argue, is ur boyfriend boring you?

pickabeau1:

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Show me where the bible advocates slavery
The Bible even declared a Jubilee (every 7 years) where slaves must be freed

Lol.

Wouldn't there be a slave first, before you talk about freedom??

Isn't it logical to state that yes, you can have slaves, but free them after 7 years?


Anyway, here you go:

Leviticus 25:44-46a

Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life.

Exodus 21:20-21
When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money

masonkz:


Interesting!. Are we talking of same bible that said the below?

1st Corinthians 14:34-35

Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church

I do hope you all adhere to this, else judgement awaits you all.

:-

Typical naive conclusion that is ignorant of the context in which that statement was made. The following excerpt from an article explains things:

At first glance, this seems to be a blanket command that women are never allowed to speak at all in the church. However, earlier in the same epistle (1Corinthians 11:5), Paul mentions women’s praying and prophesying as allowable activities, and we know that older women are
to teach younger women ( Titus 2:4). Therefore, 1 Corinthians 14:33–35 must not be an absolute command for women to always be silent in church.

The concern of 1 Corinthians 14, and much of the epistle, is order and structure in the church. The Corinthian church was noted for the chaos and lack of order rampant in
that assembly (verse 33). It is interesting that no elders or pastors are mentioned in the book, and the prophets who were there were not exercising control (see verses 29, 32, 37). Everyone in the church service was participating with whatever expression they desired, whenever they desired. As a result, those with the gift of tongues were speaking
simultaneously, those with a revelation from God were shouting out randomly, and no one was concerned with
interpreting what was being said, even if what was said could be heard above the din. The meetings quickly descended into chaos. Part of the confusion in the Corinthian church included women speaking in tongues and prophesying; these women were taking the lead in the services instead of being submissive to the authorities in the church (see 1 Timothy 2:11–15). Apparently, certain women in the Corinthian church were also out of order in disruptively asking questions during the already chaotic services.

http://www.gotquestions.org/women-silent-church.html

The site is an excellent resource for answers to dilemmas regarding Christianity.

njokusboy:


Now I see you just want to argue, is ur boyfriend boring you?

Please address the post jor. That's your bible right there.


No, my bf isn't boring me

UyiIredia:


Typical naive conclusion that is ignorant of the context in which that statement was made. The following excerpt from an article explains things:

At first glance, this seems to be a blanket command that women are never allowed to speak at all in the church. However, earlier in the same epistle (1Corinthians 11:5), Paul mentions women’s praying and prophesying as allowable activities, and we know that older women are
to teach younger women ( Titus 2:4). Therefore, 1 Corinthians 14:33–35 must not be an absolute command for women to always be silent in church.

The concern of 1 Corinthians 14, and much of the epistle, is order and structure in the church. The Corinthian church was noted for the chaos and lack of order rampant in
that assembly (verse 33). It is interesting that no elders or pastors are mentioned in the book, and the prophets who were there were not exercising control (see verses 29, 32, 37). Everyone in the church service was participating with whatever expression they desired, whenever they desired. As a result, those with the gift of tongues were speaking
simultaneously, those with a revelation from God were shouting out randomly, and no one was concerned with
interpreting what was being said, even if what was said could be heard above the din. The meetings quickly descended into chaos. Part of the confusion in the Corinthian church included women speaking in tongues and prophesying; these women were taking the lead in the services instead of being submissive to the authorities in the church (see 1 Timothy 2:11–15). Apparently, certain women in the Corinthian church were also out of order in disruptively asking questions during the already chaotic services.

http://www.gotquestions.org/women-silent-church.html

The site is an excellent resource for answers to dilemmas regarding Christianity.

So lemme get this straight, i have to consult an article while reading a bible . LMFAO

Y'all got me on a roll tonight

I thought the bible was explanatory enough. Now I have to consult an article before knowing whether to believe the bible for what it is or not.

Maybe I should also translate that article in my language and attach as an addendum to the bible and sell to the people at my villa. What do you think?

masonkz:



You don't get it. I have no issue with polygamy, but it should be fair. As much as men are calling for it, the women should also do same. That way the courts will truly know that women actually enjoy being in polygamous marriages. it's as simple as that!

Again, I ask, how many men called for gender equality....
Women cannot clamour for polygamy, they are free to go for polyandry to even things out...

Mind you, not all men like polygamy, but you don't see them up in arms against it...
Because polygamy hurts no one...
Marriage is a choice... if you don't wwant polygamy, don't marry into or stay in one.mm

I knew you were going there

As you rightly noted, that was the custom of those times

however that was not the intent

Back to the topic.. you are not a christian so no issue there on gaylove

masonkz:


Lol.

Wouldn't there be a slave first, before you talk about freedom??

Isn't it logical to state that yes, you can have slaves, but free them after 7 years?


Anyway, here you go:

Leviticus 25:44-46a

Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life.

Exodus 21:20-21
When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money

njokusboy:


Look, I don't enjoy answering one question many times, if you can't grasp simple logic, its not my fault....

How many men called for gender equality....
It as simple as ABC, America recognises the rights of consenting adult men to marry, why must they now impinge on the right of an adult man to marry 2 consenting women?
Isn't consent the base?
It now falls on the woman to choose to marry or not to marry? And if married, they can divorce... QED

I'm not about to repeat myself on this.

masonkz:


sigh.


Read my post again, and reply accordingly.

I have. Polygamy involves mutual consent just as monogamy does, there are women supportive of and/or engaging in it. in the US there are polyamorous relationships as I've explained, read up on it. Given all these, you should have no qualms with polygamy or polyandry or same-sex marriages involving more than 2 partners as the case may be.

pickabeau1:
I knew you were going there

As you rightly noted, that was the custom of those times

however that was not the intent

Back to the topic.. you are not a christian so no issue there on gaylove

Oh now we're going back to the topic??

masonkz:


I'm not about to repeat myself on this.

Ofcourse, you have been saying the same meaningless thing all day

UyiIredia:


I have. Polygamy involves mutual consent just as monogamy does, there are women supportive of and/or engaging in it. in the US there are polyamorous relationships as I've explained, read up on it. Given all these, you should have no qualms with polygamy or polyandry or same-sex marriages involving more than 2 partners as the case may be.

As I've stated, I have no problem with all the above. People's concern is actually WHY polygamy isn't legalised in the US, hence why I asked if women in the US are calling for the courts to legalise it, cos all I see is men agitating for it.

Simple.

njokusboy:


Again, I ask, how many men called for gender equality....
Women cannot clamour for polygamy, they are free to go for polyandry to even things out...

Mind you, not all men like polygamy, but you don't see them up in arms against it...
Because polygamy hurts no one...
Marriage is a choice... if you don't wwant polygamy, don't marry into or stay in one.mm

Again, I've addressed this.

Men already had the freedom that women were clamouring for. So it was more or less a one sided scale.

Oh, and yes, the men were actually the ones that approved gender equality. Afterall, men ruled the courts in those days. So,

njokusboy:


Ofcourse, you have been saying the same meaningless thing all day

if you feel so, soothe yourself

masonkz:


Oh now we're going back to the topic??

We were always on the topic
The Bible angle came in with myself and Francis

You dont take store by the bible so no issue there

Afterall Marriage Equality is now allowed
That means taxes for the govt, divorce settlements now being paid by richer individuals to others.. basically the same whatnots about MARRIAGE
so lets see how it goes

The major issue people have is the seeming intolerance by th gay crowd although one could say they experienced that too for so long

Even the marriage institution itself is not as it used to be anyway

masonkz:



So lemme get this straight, i have to consult an article while reading a bible . LMFAO

Y'all got me on a roll tonight

I thought the bible was explanatory enough. Now I have to consult an article before knowing whether to believe the bible for what it is or not.

Maybe I should also translate that artivcle in my language and attach as an addendum to the bible and sell to the bible at my villa. What do you think?

I think you are being foolish. The Bible is an anthology of books written by people over different time periods. As with any other literary work, it's statements must be understood within the general context of the Bible itself and its historical context. In the case of women being silent in churches, that article clearly showed that it wasn't an absolute command, since in other verses Paul allowed that women could pray and prophesy.