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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by ZeroTolerance: 2:04pm On Jul 02, 2015
spyder880:


Oga, I disagree with this picture as the face of Obollo afor, why not be objective and show the roads Sullivan just completed from Ikem, through Obollo Eke to Obollo afor till joining Makurdi express? Is it not a new road?
So I should show one good road out of hundreds of bad roads as the 'face of Obollo Afor''?
Another road in Obollo Afor

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Nobody: 2:16pm On Jul 02, 2015
^^^^
angry angry angry lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed cry cry

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by ZeroTolerance: 2:34pm On Jul 02, 2015
More of Obollo Afor... As you can see, people actually live in these rural areas, contrary to what some fools say.

Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by passion007: 2:38pm On Jul 02, 2015
^
Bro, keep it civil.
I agree with your viewpoint, but let's dispense with the name-calling.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by asha80(m): 2:41pm On Jul 02, 2015
passion007:
^
Bro, keep it civil.
I agree with your viewpoint, but let's dispense with the name-calling.
I wonder why he cannot do without name calling
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Kcinho(m): 3:39pm On Jul 02, 2015
ZeroTolerance:
So I should show one good road out of hundreds of bad roads as the 'face of Obollo Afor''?
Another road in Obollo Afor
it's obvious Enugu North senatorial district has been neglected for the past 16yrs. But you can't get the desired attention through name calling or insults.
Mind you obollo afor is one of the towns that have gotten government attention even if it's "just" one road. There are many towns in uzouwani that have never appeared in the news for anything good or bad. Probably the government doesn't know they exist. Even election campaigns rarely reach them. (very bad Rocky and dusty road, no gsm service, no water, no electricity, no functional health centre, dilapidated schools etc).
I had the opportunity of visiting one of the towns and I was struck with the hardship people in this same Enugu "obodo Oyibo" pass through. Someone actually bragged another town was still further down and his town was "london" compared to them. Currently trying to lobby for a rural outreach programme for some of them but convincing volunteers hasn't been easy.
So brother thank God you are from obollo afor and pray this government remembers the area this time.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by spyder880(m): 4:00pm On Jul 02, 2015
ZeroTolerance:
So I should show one good road out of hundreds of bad roads as the 'face of Obollo Afor''?
Another road in Obollo Afor

At least you have agreed that the last government did any roads at all in Nsukka zone. People would have thought the area is abandoned.

How I wish all roads could be built at the same time. I live in Port Harcourt and even with billions in free oil revenue, most roads are worse than Obollo afor roads.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by ZeroTolerance: 4:20pm On Jul 02, 2015
spyder880:


At least you have agreed that the last government did any roads at all in Nsukka zone. People would have thought the area is abandoned.

How I wish all roads could be built at the same time. I live in Port Harcourt and even with billions in free oil revenue, most roads are worse than Obollo afor roads.
Oga you are just deceiving yourself. So 1 road in the midst of hundreds of bad roads now makes Obollo Afor comparable to PH? Even Enugu city will struggle to compete with PH in that aspect. You asked for the face of Obollo Afor and the Pic I provided is exactly that because that is how 99% of the roads there are.
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by knowledgeable: 4:24pm On Jul 02, 2015
BuddahMonk:
Thanks bro, come to Anambra State, the way Odekpe and Onitsha treat you if you want to erect new building is enough for you to accept they are not Igbos. Odekpe people learnt it from Onitsha and are now doing more than them.

During the Cartoon Riot of 2006, the entire Igala people in Ogbaru were housed and protected in the palace of then Okakwu of Odekpe Igwe FCB Isamade when the riot was intensive and escalating , they said Odekpe originated from Igala bla bla, they even started threatening people who were going from street to streets looking for Northerners to kill that they should not try touch any Igala person.

Ok now fast forward 2006 to 2015 is it not the same Igala people that are killing Anambras people because of Oil wells found in Aguleri, is it not the same Igala that are setting houses on fire at Uzo Uwani because they are protesting of not being in Kogi with their kith n kins..

Igboman wake up.... Igboman be sober.... Igboman increase the consciousness.... Ignorance is a bliss.

[size=18pt]Its pure Ignorance and nothing more, [/size]



@Buddamonk, I don't know who you are, but I encourage you to write a book on the collections of questions and answers you've delt with on this nairaland web site for Igbos and other Nigerians to see another star of Igboland.
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Unemadu: 7:05pm On Jul 02, 2015
ZeroTolerance:
More of Obollo Afor... As you can see, people actually live in these rural areas, contrary to what some fools say.

Calling people fools for airing their opinion?
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by spyder880(m): 7:33pm On Jul 02, 2015
ZeroTolerance:
Oga you are just deceiving yourself. So 1 road in the midst of hundreds of bad roads now makes Obollo Afor comparable to PH? Even Enugu city will struggle to compete with PH in that aspect. You asked for the face of Obollo Afor and the Pic I provided is exactly that because that is how 99% of the roads there are.

lf only you can get a little more training about your online attitude, especially the way you abuse people, I would have loved us to debate about development in Nsukka zone. I am an insider and knows more of Nsukka zone than most people. 12 years of my life was spent there.

No need to descend to your level just to prove a point. Have a good day.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by cjrane: 7:45pm On Jul 02, 2015
ZeroTolerance:
So I should show one good road out of hundreds of bad roads as the 'face of Obollo Afor''?
Another road in Obollo Afor
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by cjrane: 7:48pm On Jul 02, 2015
ZeroTolerance:
So I should show one good road out of hundreds of bad roads as the 'face of Obollo Afor''?
Another road in Obollo Afor

Going by your mentality, then anyone that showed any paved road in Nigeria or well built house is wrong for that because more streets in Nigeria are untarred than the tarred ones, just as many more Nigerians don't live in mansions showed in Nairaland.

I can categorically state that your reasoning is flawed. There is no absolute in life. A little of everything. Even in the most advanced or wealthiest countries, there still some untarred roads as there are poor people.

You should show the untarred roads as what has not been done well, just as showing the tarred ones as example of what was done well. That is called having a balanced view.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Unemadu: 7:49pm On Jul 02, 2015
all4naija:
^^^^
angry angry angry lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed cry cry

How are u? tongue

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Unemadu: 7:55pm On Jul 02, 2015
So now that an Nsukka man is governor we pray the Zone gets the attention it deserves. Case closed. But when will my village man be governor so my village will be trAnsformed?
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Abagworo(m): 8:03pm On Jul 02, 2015
ZeroTolerance:
Oga you are just deceiving yourself. So 1 road in the midst of hundreds of bad roads now makes Obollo Afor comparable to PH? Even Enugu city will struggle to compete with PH in that aspect. You asked for the face of Obollo Afor and the Pic I provided is exactly that because that is how 99% of the roads there are.

Government is not all about roads. Roads cost a lot of money but other things can be done to improve life while roads are gradually tackled.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Nobody: 8:14pm On Jul 02, 2015
Unemadu:


How are u? tongue
I am good! How are you too? grin cheesy
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Nobody: 9:30pm On Jul 02, 2015
We've been so corrupted by our system that we now hold up wrong as right. Very unfortunate. If a governor doesn't come from your area, such place won't develop and we're at home with that.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Nobody: 10:16pm On Jul 02, 2015
knowledgeable:



@Buddamonk, I don't know who you are, but I encourage you to write a book on the collections of questions and answers you've delt with on this nairaland web site for Igbos and other Nigerians to see another star of Igboland.

Cool bros, though I might not be ready for it but In my own little way I will always push for it, one of my major goals in to unified Igbo people especially from the Western Igboland to look Eastward.
I was in Asaba on Monday and I saw a massive flyover there, do you know the name of the gigantic flyover, its Ekwumekwu Flyover. Many of our youths in Igboland don't know about Ekwumekwu but they know about Oyedepo, Adebayo, Sango, Dan Fodio and El Kanemi.

Igbos have really suffered in Nigeria and because of the way igboland is fragmented its always easy for distractors to penetrate.

I know what ignorance is causing , a united Igboland will unsettle Nigeria that is why nobody wants to see that happen, do you see how Ikwerre were hurriedly regarded as an ethnic nationality?.

Last time I went to SabMiller Onitsha to visit a friend, I saw in their gate a banner about a quiz competition they were organising for Eastern junior schools, when I saw that two schools from Asaba were participating in the competition I was elated because am seeing that the corporate world is gradually breaking down the frontier and this is what I want to do with the resources God will bless me with.

Imagine what the Unity in Igboland did when Zik's NCNC candidate Dennis Osadebey won the Midwest Region defeating Awolowo's AG that was controlling the region as mother Western region before.
We need to extend that hand of brotherhood, I don't see the reason while SE should be pro Ijaw but too cold to Anioma despite how the Ijaws treated us in the past.

Whether some Anioma are rejecting being Igbos shouldn't be the problem but not engaging the ignorant person on reasonable conversation is, don't throw away the baby with the bathing water.

Please when your done reading this kindly open the book of Nehamiah 1 vs 1-11 for Igbos all over the world trying to make ends meet in legitimate way.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by eaglechild: 10:25pm On Jul 02, 2015
ZeroTolerance:
More of Obollo Afor... As you can see, people actually live in these rural areas, contrary to what some fools say.
More people live in Abakpa and Emene.

I hope the government deals with all (which it hopefully should be able to) but if not, it is clear where the priority lies and where more impact can be made with less funds.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by spyder880(m): 10:50pm On Jul 02, 2015
eaglechild:

More people live in Abakpa and Emene.

I hope the government deals with all (which it hopefully should be able to) but if not, it is clear where the priority lies and where more impact can be made with less funds.


Abakpa and Emene infrastructure hold the key to the continued developement of the entire Enugu urban, you can imagine how chaotic it will be for squatters to invade the whole of urban Enugu and build all manner of shanties everywhere. The way to keep them at bay is to develop these little towns in the outskirts,

1. We can do a major road in Emene, maybe a dual carriage if possible,
2. Run good roads into Nkwubor and Ugwomu
3. Link Ugwuomu to Amorji, or run all the way and connect Nkwubor to either Ugwuogo Nike or Mbu in Isi Uzo lga
4. You will succeed in achieving two things at the same time, keep the villagers busy as more people move in to buy farm produce, then you decongest Enugu as more people build and start doing business in Emene and environs
5. Private housing estates and commercial farmers will chase all the lands inside till Mbu Akpoti in Isi Uzo lgagrin

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by ZeroTolerance: 11:06pm On Jul 02, 2015
cjrane:


Going by your mentality, then anyone that showed any paved road in Nigeria or well built house is wrong for that because more streets in Nigeria are untarred than the tarred ones, just as many more Nigerians don't live in mansions showed in Nairaland.

I can categorically state that your reasoning is flawed. There is no absolute in life. A little of everything. Even in the most advanced or wealthiest countries, there still some untarred roads as there are poor people.

You should show the untarred roads as what has not been done well, just as showing the tarred ones as example of what was done well. That is called having a balanced view.
Did you read the post I quoted at all? He said I was misleading people by posting that picture saying it's not the face of Obollo Afor. However, 99% of the roads in Obollo Afor are like that, so it's actually the face of Obollo Afor.
So I should leave all the bad roads surrounding me in Obollo Afor to go on a long search for one good road wherever it's hidden to satisfy who?

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by ZeroTolerance: 11:14pm On Jul 02, 2015
eaglechild:

More people live in Abakpa and Emene.

I hope the government deals with all (which it hopefully should be able to) but if not, it is clear where the priority lies and where more impact can be made with less funds.

The population of Enugu city is around 700 000, that is less than 20% of Enugu state's 4 million population, so the earlier you accept that your population theory does not hold watter, the better. Besides, repairing the few remaining bad roads in Enugu does not the govt him from constructing/repairing roads other places.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Nobody: 11:18pm On Jul 02, 2015
Hello all
My skin literally crawls when I see insults...
I have zero tolerance for insulting posts
I cannot even see past the bad words to see any point the insulting poster could be making
E jiho njonjo omume mal' ayi please

Even our resident critic lipsrsealed, Mr all4naija does not insult people here
He just shows our "bush and dusty" Enugu some mega loving cheesy

Okay...that is it
Back to the matter at hand,
I would push for Anioma State....over Adada, Etiti et al
Makes the most sense
However....the powers that be may not allow it
A clamour has to be made for it to become the dominant rhetoric in state creation discourse
Thanks

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by spyder880(m): 11:26pm On Jul 02, 2015
Just a short while from now, the works of gburu gburu will start to show, I will go to Emene this weekend to look at the quality of the new road, if the guy goes below Sullivan quality, my camera will say so grin

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by ZeroTolerance: 11:34pm On Jul 02, 2015
eaglechild:

More people live in Abakpa and Emene.

I hope the government deals with all (which it hopefully should be able to) but if not, it is clear where the priority lies and where more impact can be made with less funds.

There is no way Enugu can be so starved of funds that the only roads Ugwuanyi can do in 4 years are Emene and Abakpa and you know it. Unless you encourage looting of funds or there is some kind of bias you are trying so hard to hide behind all these grammar. You gave a hint of it when you called me clannish for no reason pages back. It's only a matter of time before you blow up and expose yourself like that Biafrandream of a fool did after trying to hide behind grammar and flawed logic.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Nobody: 11:39pm On Jul 02, 2015
There is no reason why Nsukka and environs cannot get a massive face lift alongside the development projects in Enugu IMO
Abandoning Enugu would be tantamount to betrayal and craziness and not lifting Nsukka would be plain bureaucratic stupidity
Is there even a thing like that?

Anyway...my point is that success for Ugwuanyi is dependent on how he handles this
He has deep gloves to fill....Mr Chime's....
That is no easy feat

I wish him well
We do not need to become a laughing stock, at all
Not after this exciting sail we have had in the past eight years

Is it evident my political talk saavy is poor? cheesy
I will shut up now....and go back to reading

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Unemadu: 12:02am On Jul 03, 2015
ZeroTolerance:
The population of Enugu city is around 700 000, that is less than 20% of Enugu state's 4 million population, so the earlier you accept that your population theory does not hold watter, the better. Besides, repairing the few remaining bad roads in Enugu does not the govt him from constructing/repairing roads other places.

The population theory holds water.Enugu city has the most population density. The major reason why goverments want people to urbanize is so that development can be focused.
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by cjrane: 1:13am On Jul 03, 2015
Everything boils down to good planning.
Chime has already demonstrated that even the poorest revenue allocated state like Enugu, can plan well and still perform better than the highest revenue allocated states.

Enugu can continue to develop as well as Nsukka. They should start with major roads in Nsukka. You don't have to do everything immediately, but use good quality contractors such as Arab contractors to ensure every project completed is of the highest world class quality.

Ugwuanyi in his inaugural speech spoke about developing Emene - 9th mile area as Enugu's free trade and industrial zone. Of course he can lay the ground work for this by planning the area to the highest international standard. Demarcating areas for new residential estates, industrial zone and recreational parks within this huge expanse of land. Then begin to attract industrialists to buy plots in the industrial zone and property developers as Spyder to develop new housing estates in the residential part.
Once people know the whole place is planned like Obodo oyibo standard and government opens up the first feeder roads and electricity lines even if the roads are not tarred, those industrialists and property developers will come. Especially in this day and age when Igbos are looking for great industrial layouts to relocate or set up a new investment in the east.

So, the first step is to make a solid modern plan and then follow the plan a little each year based on availability of funds. In the picture below, several areas were earmarked for "future development". Which means, the government can acquire the area and then develop small portions of it in phases.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by ChimaAdeoye: 3:50am On Jul 03, 2015
The FTZ area will be about a 15 sq. km in size. That will be a fantastic new Enugu city!
It already has an International airport and a railway line to the ONNE port for export/Import. Two vital requirements for a FTZ to succeed.

It will be a stunning new opportunity to replicate Abuja style planning in Enugu!

If we can build a road like in the picture below to link Enugu-Abakaliki road at Emene, to the Enugu-Nsukka road at 9th mile. We would have opened a whole new city for development in our lifetime.

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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by eaglechild: 6:51am On Jul 03, 2015
ZeroTolerance:
The population of Enugu city is around 700 000, that is less than 20% of Enugu state's 4 million population, so the earlier you accept that your population theory does not hold watter, the better. Besides, repairing the few remaining bad roads in Enugu does not the govt him from constructing/repairing roads other places.
I don't know where you got your population stats from but Enugu state has an estimated population of about 3.26million with a density of 460/sqKm, while Enugu city has an estimated population of 722, 000 with a density of 17, 000/sqKm.

What i'm simply trying to make you realise is why your analogy is flawed. Abakpa and Emene are more densely populated hence road construction there will impact more lives than it would in the rural area both in economic and social terms.

Of course like I said earlier I believe the government should be able to handle rehabilitation of Obollo Afor roads, but in a situation where they have to choose we all know where the priority lies.
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by ZeroTolerance: 7:17am On Jul 03, 2015
Unemadu:


The population theory holds water.Enugu city has the most population density. The major reason why goverments want people to urbanize is so that development can be focused.
Where did you discuss the government wanting people to urbanize? Everywhere governments try to reduce rural - urban migration by trying to provide basic social amenities that make rural areas more conducive for living. What you wrote is completely wrong.

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