ojesymsym:

Nice analysis, could you also be kind enough to critique this design, I offered up for some criticism recently and
I got some very instructive ones, would not mind more of sure before actual construction.
https://www.nairaland.com/2413088/3-bedroom-drawing-open-criticism

You did not do any justice to Bedroom#2, too small.. the kitchen is bigger than that bedroom.
Reduce the Livingroom/dinning room/kitchen and give more space to the Bedroom2.
Apart from that, I really love the simplicity of the plan. I am sure some people with finicky eyes may see more.

Hajji M.

ojesymsym:


Nice analysis, could you also be kind enough to critique this design, I offered up for some criticism recently and I got some very instructive ones, would not mind more of sure before actual construction.
https://www.nairaland.com/2413088/3-bedroom-drawing-open-criticism

The plan is not clear. Can you make it bolder than its current look?

FastShipping:

The plan is not clear. Can you make it bolder than its current look?

Very, very big on my monitor (27inch) here... how are you viewing it? I can even read the writings clearly.
Tried it on my Samsung Galaxy III phone too, and I can enlarge it pretty well; when turned landscape mode.

Hajji M.

mufutau55:


Very, very big on my monitor (27inch) here... how are you viewing it? I can even read the writings clearly.
Tried it on my Samsung Galaxy III phone too, and I can enlarge it pretty well; when turned landscape mode.

Hajji M.

I am using 24 inch flat screen monitor HP (W2071d). They word are written in blue and tiny. I don't want to strain my eyes.

Let me try it again.

There's huge dichotomy between criticisms and corrections/suggestions. Someone insinuating that,THE WHOLE PLAN IS FLAWED, doesn't look like correction to some.
Abdul put the plan online, that's why some print missiles are been targeted at him. He is gonna take the constructive ones, then shred others.

@Abdulwastecx,
This is what I understand from some feedbacks.

@FastShipping the whole plan is NOT totally flawed. You had the best feedback but your approach is very poor.
You need to take a 30seconds course on providing feedback.

This I got from google will suffice:
Constructive criticism is the process of offering valid and well-reasoned opinions about the work of others, usually involving both positive and negative comments, in a friendly manner rather than an oppositional one. The purpose of constructive criticism is to improve the outcome.
Constructive criticism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructive_criticism

OneVote:
@Abdulwastecx,
This is what I understand from some feedbacks.

@FastShipping the whole plan is NOT totally flawed. You had the best feedback but your approach is very poor.
You need to take a 30seconds course on providing feedback.

This I got from google will suffice:
Constructive criticism is the process of offering valid and well-reasoned opinions about the work of others, usually involving both positive and negative comments, in a friendly manner rather than an oppositional one. The purpose of constructive criticism is to improve the outcome.
Constructive criticism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructive_criticism

You are entitled to your own opinion like me or anyone else. I said the plan is flawed because the two other rooms have no cross ventilation. The master bath has no window.

Enjoy.

FastShipping:


You must be joking, right? Put what email here? You were the one that claimed you have 6,7 bedroom in U.S home plans to post here showing laundry situated in the kitchen. So why should anyone need to post their email here before you can post the so called 6,7 bedroom home plans?

I Said I'll show you, I didn't say online. Come to my own neck of the wood or put your email address up here for me to send it to. You asked me to put my plan online?

sule4:

I Said I'll show you, I didn't say online. Come to my own neck of the wood or put your email address up here for me to send it to. You asked me to put my plan online?

OK

OneVote:
@Abdulwastecx,
This is what I understand from some feedbacks.

@FastShipping the whole plan is NOT totally flawed. You had the best feedback but your approach is very poor.
You need to take a 30seconds course on providing feedback.

This I got from google will suffice:
Constructive criticism is the process of offering valid and well-reasoned opinions about the work of others, usually involving both positive and negative comments, in a friendly manner rather than an oppositional one. The purpose of constructive criticism is to improve the outcome.
Constructive criticism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Seconded!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructive_criticism

Take you, One vote.

FastShipping:


I am using 24 inch flat screen monitor HP (W2071d). They word are written in blue and tiny. I don't want to strain my eyes.
Let me try it again.

If you are using Internet Explorer.. on the bottom status line... increase the View to 125% instead of 100% and it should be fine,
you have a very big and good monitor too.. I have the HP 2711x.

Hajji M.

mufutau55:


If you are using Internet Explorer.. on the bottom status line... increase the View to 125% instead of 100% and it should be fine,
you have a very big and good monitor too.. I have the HP 2711x.

Hajji M.

I saw it. He just needs to move the kitchen from its current location to the dining area. The veranda in the front needs to go completely and create an open space for living room and dining. No need to divide the dining and living room due to constraint of space. The visitors toilet needs to be scrapped so the second bedroom can be extended by about 2ft towards where the living room is. Size of the master bedroom needs to be reduced by about a feet.

In all, it is a basic 3 bedrooms.

its good the way it is. u need visitors toilet so that any visitor is not going to be sharing the main building toilet whenever they come

as far as im concerned, its all good

i don't see anything wrong with having the washing and drying machine in the kitchen so i think the plan without rhe laundry is better off but knowing Nigerians they would like to say "i have a laundry room".

FastShipping:

I saw it. He just needs to move the kitchen from its current location to the dining area. The veranda in the front needs to go completely and create an open space for living room and dining. No need to divide the dining and living room due to constraint of space. The visitors toilet needs to be scrapped so the second bedroom can be extended by about 2ft towards where the living room is. Size of the master bedroom needs to be reduced by about a feet.
In all, it is a basic 3 bedrooms.

I knew there are some things I am missing... you hit the bulls eye. Good observations and suggestions.

Hajji M.

FastShipping:


I saw it. He just needs to move the kitchen from its current location to the dining area. The veranda in the front needs to go completely and create an open space for living room and dining. No need to divide the dining and living room due to constraint of space. The visitors toilet needs to be scrappgeed so the second bedroom can be extended by about 2ft towards where the living room is. Size of the master bedroom needs to be reduced by about a feet.

In all, it is a basic 3 bedrooms.

Nigerians love to separate their living room from the dinning area.
the kitchen can be moved from its current location to the laundry location, that i will do
i think the visitor's toilet is important and will stay
the veranda in the front is an important because of its unique functionality and aesthetic look
The master's bedroom is ok and will stay

abdulwastecx:


Nigerians love to separate their living room from the dinning area.
the kitchen can be moved from its current location to the laundry location, that i will do
i think the visitor's toilet is important and will stay
the veranda in the front is an important because of its unique functionality and aesthetic look
The master's bedroom is ok and will stay

supported, now can we go on with the cost analysis? I'm itching seriously for more.

abdulwastecx:


Nigerians love to separate their living room from the dinning area.
the kitchen can be moved from its current location to the laundry location, that i will do
i think the visitor's toilet is important and will stay
the veranda in the front is an important because of its unique functionality and aesthetic look
The master's bedroom is ok and will stay

Actually, that response was for Hajj on another plan entirely different from yours. Here is the plan I was discussing with hajj: https://www.nairaland.com/2413088/3-bedroom-drawing-open-criticism

FastShipping:


You are entitled to your own opinion like me or anyone else. I said the plan is flawed because the two other rooms have no cross ventilation. The master bath has no window.

Enjoy.

I will disagree with you sir. The single windows in those room have a dimension of 1500mm x 1200mm which is big enough to allow flow of air. cross ventilation is good but in situation where its not possible to get a wider window will do. Ventilation also depend on the vegetation cover, movement of earth round the sun and the wind direction.
Check out this design of a building in USA

abdulwastecx:


I will disagree with you sir. The single windows in those room have a dimension of 1500mm x 1200mm which is big enough to allow flow of air. cross ventilation is good but in situation where its not possible to get a wider window will do. Ventilation also depend on the vegetation cover, movement of earth round the sun and the wind direction.
Check out this design of a building in USA

To my understanding the way homes are built in Nigeria is different from that of U.S. I am currently building too my plan came from the U.S. In some of my bathrooms no window space provided. The architect is here on nairaland and he told me it is against building code in Nigeria to have bathrooms without windows or bedroom without cross ventilation. I told him ventilator machines are there for a reason and he agrees. We have a system where there is vent in every room through the vent spaces meant for heat and A/C. It is not necessary to have two windows before one can achieve a cross ventilation. Seeing one window space in an American styled room doesn't mean there are no other ways air flows in and out of the room. Furnace/air extractors are built with homes here.

You are one heck of an engineer. I admire your analysis here. You eyes for detail and analytical skill is second to none.

FastShipping:


To my understanding the way homes are built in Nigeria is different from that of U.S. I am currently building too my plan came from the U.S. In some of my bathrooms no window space provided. The architect is here on nairaland and he told me it is against building code in Nigeria to have bathrooms without windows or bedroom without cross ventilation. I told him ventilator machines are there for a reason and he agrees. We have a system where there is vent in every room through the vent spaces meant for heat and A/C. It is not necessary to have two windows before one can achieve a cross ventilation. Seeing one window space in an American styled room doesn't mean there are no other air flows in and out of the room. Furnace are built with homes here.

You are one heck of an engineer. I admire your analysis here. You eyes for detail and analytical skill is second to none.

you are absolutely right sir...

Here to register my presence...

what is the external dimension of this bldg?

13.2m x 12.2m

abdulwastecx:
13.2m x 12.2m

How much to complete this with moderate finishing?

USAutoBuy:


How much to complete this with moderate finishing?

i will soon bring down detail breakdown but in summary
1.5m for foundation including dpc 150mm thick, 3 course above ground level, wire mesh, 15 foundation columns etc.

2. superstructure to roof level = N1.5m for a wall of 3m high, 225mm thick, ring lintel, 15.super structure column and head course

3. roofing and nogging = 1.5m with well treated hard roof truss timber, long span roofing sheet, pvc

4. finishes such as plumbing, electrical, plastering, tiling, windows doors, burglary proof etc. 2m.

abdulwastecx:

I will soon bring down detail breakdown but in summary
1.5m for foundation including dpc 150mm thick, 3 course above ground level, wire mesh, 15 foundation columns etc.
2. superstructure to roof level = N1.5m for a wall of 3m high, 225mm thick, ring lintel, 15.super structure column and head course
3. roofing and nogging = 1.5m with well treated hard roof truss timber, long span roofing sheet, pvc
4. finishes such as plumbing, electrical, plastering, tiling, windows doors, burglary proof etc. 2m.

Is the first Items for Foundation etc... N1.5m or .5m (500k)?.

Hajji M.

mufutau55:

Is the first Items for Foundation etc... N1.5m or .5m (500k)?.
Hajji M.

Has to be 500k

the "1" is numbering the steps

USAutoBuy:

Has to be 500k
the "1" is numbering the steps

I think it's a typo... because when I added all the expenses on Page 1 it's N1,024,900 already plus the borehole for N110,000
it's at N1,134,900 already.. so it has to be N1.5m.

Hajji M.

mufutau55:

I think it's a typo... because when I added all the expenses on Page 1 it's N1,024,900 already plus the borehole for N110,000
it's at N1,134,900 already.. so it has to be N1.5m.
Hajji M.

Even a bigger foundation i did about a year ago was about 500k

Inflation things

USAutoBuy:


Even a bigger foundation i did about a year ago was about 500k

Inflation things

ELEMENT NR 1
SUBSTRUCTURE (ALL PROVISIONAL)

A Setting out of foundation using profile board sum ₦ 30,000.00

B Provision of water source (bore hole ) sum

Preparation of soil for building construction
E Excavating; trench for strip foundation; exceeding of 675mm in
width; maximum depth not exceeding 750mm 140 m ₦ 400.00 ₦ 56,000.00

Filling
G Back filling with selected materials arising from excavations,
deposited and compacted in 150mm layers 10 room ₦ 3,000.00 ₦ 30,000.00

H 450mm Thick filling imported and deposited over the back filled
earth, deposited and compacted in 150mm Layers 8 trip ₦ 15,000.00 ₦ 120,000.00

Concrete work
J Plain in - situ concrete ( 1:3:6/19mm Aggregate )
Vibrated reinforced in - situ concrete ( 1:3 :6 / 19mm
Aggregate ) filled into formwork
and well packed around reinforcement ( formwork and
reinforcement both measured separately ) in :
1. Number of bags of cement for strip footing/column work 60 bag ₦ 2,000.00 ₦ 120,000.00

2. trip of sand for the foundation work of 10tonnage sand 2.0 trip ₦ 30,000.00 ₦ 60,000.00

3. trip of gravel of 30 tonnage gravel 1 trip ₦ 190,000.00 ₦ 190,000.00

4. workmanship for the concrete work 60 bag ₦ 800.00 ₦ 48,000.00

K DPC oversite concrete of 100mm thick
15cubic meters ( 1:3:6/19mm Aggregate )
1. Number of bags of cement for the oversite concrete 60 bag ₦ 2,000.00 ₦ 120,000.00

2. trip of sand for the foundation work of 10tonnage sand 3.0 trip ₦ 28,000.00 ₦ 84,000.00

3. trip of gravel of 30 tonnage gravel 0.0 trip ₦ 190,000.00 ₦ -

4. workmanship for the concrete work 60 bag ₦ 800.00 ₦ 48,000.00

Reinforcement for column base (basket ) and starter column
High Yield steel bar to BS 4461 in strength and
bent bars ( All Provisional )
L 12mm Diameter in column bases 20 nr ₦ 1,200.00 ₦ 24,000.00

M 12mm Diameter in column as starter bars 10 nr ₦ 1,200.00 ₦ 12,000.00

N 10mm Diameter ditto as links and stirrups 10 nr ₦ 1,000.00 ₦ 10,000.00

O workmanship for both column base and starter column 20 nr ₦ 2,200.00 ₦ 30,000.00

Sawn formwork to
P Four sides of Columns (24 nr) 20 nr ₦ 900.00 ₦ 18,000.00

Q Edges of bed 150mm high 10 nr ₦ 900.00 ₦ 9,000.00

R 2 x 3 brazing 50 nr ₦ 250.00 ₦ 12,500.00

S Workmanship and other miscellaneous sum ₦ 15,000.00

Blockwork
Superior quality hollow sandcrete blockwork bedded and
jointed in cement and sand mortar (1:6) in foundation and
filled solid with weak concrete ( 1:3:6/19mm Aggregate)
T 225mm thick sancrete block 1500 nr ₦ 155.00 ₦ 232,500.00

U Cement for moltar joint 30 bag ₦ 2,000.00 ₦ 60,000.00

V Sand for block mortar joint 1 trip ₦ 28,000.00 ₦ 28,000.00

W workmanship for block laying 1600 nr ₦ 60.00 ₦ 96,000.00

To collection ₦ 1,453,000.00

SUBSTRUCTURE
ELEMENT NR 1 To Bill ( Summary ) ₦ 1,453,000.00

here is the summary of the foundation work.
1. setting out = 30k
2. strip footing of 140m = 56k
3. back filling, imported laterite and compaction = 30 + 120k = 150k
4. concrete for foundation and foundation column of 20nr = 418k
5. DPC = 252k
6. iron work for the foundation = 76k
7. formwork 54.5k
8. block work = 416.5k
TOTAL = N1,450,000

depending on location and the cost of materials, the above listed price vary, for example
removing back filling = - 150k
removing dpc =-252k
removing the introduced foundation column = -(76k + 20k) ( formwork to foundation column)
block work can also be reduced if the block is made by the contractor/building owner = - 50k
a cheaper gravel in areas like south west and north will reduce the cost of the foundation footings =-180k
Total possible reduction = 728k

minimum cost of foundation (excluding dpc) = N1,450,000 - N728,000 = N725,000