Syncan:



Lol, now let's watch the drama unfold.

Yes o...with pop corn, coke and a big sense of humour.

italo:


Abeg make your zing prepare food for Johnw47 too o.

You know say hunger sef dey make person confuse.

Yes o, abeg rich4god prepare for Johnw74 too o, so he wouldn't accuse us of discriminating against him, abeg o, I have not recovered from the last one.

Syncan:



Hahahaha, now he asks how saying Our father is the right way to pray. Did Jesus tell you how many times you should say it? Just take a look at the bold, do you know you just said that Jesus did not pray well in the garden of Gethsemane? lets see what happened there Matt. 26:44 "And he left them, and went away again, and prayed the third time, saying the same words". Did you see that Jesus spent his time in the Garden saying same thing? Yet you have the audacity to tell Jesus that "Prayer isn't reciting same thing over and over again". Ok, make I just dey observe you.

Thank you for agreeing that the Psalmist told the angels and the hosts to praise the Lord. At least it means you agree that angels and hosts can pray, for praise just like supplication are forms of prayers. If any one can Pray, such a one can praise, such a one can Petition, such a one can supplicate for another. The Psalmist asked them to praise the Lord, why? for he the psalmist feels the goodness and greatness of God, so he is simply telling them to Praise God for him, just same way some people (not you) asks their brethren to praise God for them. What is wrong with that, it is scriptural not so? Was the psalmist praying in that passage or not.

Twisting what I said may make you feel good but it doesn't help you at all.
Jesus gave an example of how to pray, that is what He was asked,

Our Father who art in Heaven....We pray to the Father
Hallowed be thy name.... we acknowledge His Holyness
Thy Kingdom come....we show we long for his kingdom
Thy will de done on earth as it is in heaven...we acknowledge He is in charge
Give us this day our daily bread....we ask Him for our needs
forgive us our trespasses as we forgive our debtors...we ask for forgiveness of sins, we don't ask man.
lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil....ask his protection
etc.

I say again the psalmist asked the angels and other Heavenly beings to praise God,
he didn't ask them to praise God for Him, the psalmist is very capable of doing that himself.

Syncan:



Hahahaha, now he asks how saying Our father is the right way to pray. Did Jesus tell you how many times you should say it? Just take a look at the bold, do you know you just said that Jesus did not pray well in the garden of Gethsemane? lets see what happened there Matt. 26:44 "And he left them, and went away again, and prayed the third time, saying the same words". Did you see that Jesus spent his time in the Garden saying same thing? Yet you have the audacity to tell Jesus that "Prayer isn't reciting same thing over and over again". Ok, make I just dey observe you.

Mat 26:42 He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.

Jesus understandably asked the Father that request three times that night, and not all at the same time, and you say blasphemously that He was praying repetitiously, when Jesus Himself said that type of prayer was of the heathen.

Mat_6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

italo:


Ha! Syncan! It seems that we Catholics (Jesus, the four living creatures and us) don't know how to pray.

What are we going to do? See below.

Matt26:44 So he left them and went away once more and prayed the third time, saying the same thing.

Rev4:8 Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under its wings. Day and night they never stop saying:

“‘Holy, holy, holy

is the Lord God Almighty,’[b]

who was, and is, and is to come.”

The Angels never stop praising God, saying day and night "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty"

good on them.

To God it is praise,
to you it is repetitous praying.

also see this: https://www.nairaland.com/2411104/how-jesus-reacted-worship-mary/2#35474607

johnw74:



Twisting what I said may make you feel good but it doesn't help you at all.
Jesus gave an example of how to pray, that is what He was asked,

Our Father who art in Heaven....We pray to the Father
Hallowed be thy name.... we acknowledge His Holyness
Thy Kingdom come....we show we long for his kingdom
Thy will de done on earth as it is in heaven...we acknowledge He is in charge
Give us this day our daily bread....we ask Him for our needs
forgive us our trespasses as we forgive our debtors...we ask for forgiveness of sins, we don't ask man.
lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil....ask his protection
etc.

Jesus also told you that we should not say any other prayer...or that we must never repeat the Our Father abi?

johnw74:

I say again the psalmist asked the angels and other Heavenly beings to praise God,
he didn't ask them to praise God for Him, the psalmist is very capable of doing that himself.

Oh! So the Psalmist doesn't need the Angels to praise God for him, he was only telling them to Praise God. But the Angels need the psalmist to tell them when to praise God abi...l

Very importantly, you dodged the question, as expected.

Was the psalmist praying or not?

italo:

[/b]
In the anti-Catholic mind: if I say the Psalmist was not praying, I will sound silly. If I say the Psalmist was praying, it would mean the Catholics are right to ask for intercession. I will rather beat around the bush or change the topic.

Psa 148:1 Praise ye the LORD. Praise ye the LORD from the heavens: praise him in the heights.
Psa 148:2 Praise ye him, all his angels: praise ye him, all his hosts.

I suppose you think the psalmist was praying to the sun and moon too.

Psa 148:3 Praise ye him, sun and moon: praise him, all ye stars of light.

The psalmist was writing his thoughts, on this ocassion about the LORD deserving the praise of all of his creation.

Psa 148:5 Let them praise the name of the LORD: for he commanded, and they were created.

Read the whole psalm and who knows, you might understand?

johnw74:



Mat 26:42 He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.

Jesus understandably asked the Father that request three times that night, and not all at the same time, and you say blasphemously that He was praying repetitiously, when Jesus Himself said that type of prayer was of the heathen.

Mat_6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

So Jesus did not repeat the same prayer 3 times?

johnw74:



Twisting what I said may make you feel good but it doesn't help you at all.
Jesus gave an example of how to pray, that is what He was asked,

Our Father who art in Heaven....We pray to the Father
Hallowed be thy name.... we acknowledge His Holyness
Thy Kingdom come....we show we long for his kingdom
Thy will de done on earth as it is in heaven...we acknowledge He is in charge
Give us this day our daily bread....we ask Him for our needs
forgive us our trespasses as we forgive our debtors...we ask for forgiveness of sins, we don't ask man.
lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil....ask his protection
etc.

I say again the psalmist asked the angels and other Heavenly beings to praise God,
he didn't ask them to praise God for Him, the psalmist is very capable of doing that himself.

Since Jesus did not pray "Our Father" in the garden, so he didn't pray abi? SMH. We that say "our father" nko? You start to count how many we say in order to decide if the number was ok...or we have to add more.

Aha, at bold, No he didn't, he was teaching them in Sunday school or Catechism class to Praise God. Lol. Or reminding them maybe....lest they forget.

Yeah, and was he praying?

johnw74:



The Angels never stop praising God, saying day and night "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty"

good on them.

To God it is praise,
to you it is repetitous praying.

also see this: https://www.nairaland.com/2411104/how-jesus-reacted-worship-mary/2#35474607

And praise is not prayer?

Who is your "pastor" or G.O?

italo:


And praise is not prayer?

Who is your "pastor" or G.O?

His name is daddy.

johnw74:



Psa 148:1 Praise ye the LORD. Praise ye the LORD from the heavens: praise him in the heights.
Psa 148:2 Praise ye him, all his angels: praise ye him, all his hosts.

I suppose you think the psalmist was praying to the sun and moon too.

Psa 148:3 Praise ye him, sun and moon: praise him, all ye stars of light.

The psalmist was writing his thoughts, on this ocassion about the LORD deserving the praise of all of his creation.

Psa 148:5 Let them praise the name of the LORD: for he commanded, and they were created.

Read the whole psalm and who knows, you might understand?

Was the psalmist praying?

Simple qweshion!

italo:


Jesus also told you that we should not say any other prayer...or that we must never repeat the Our Father abi?


Oh! So the Psalmist doesn't need the Angels to praise God for him, he was only telling them to Praise God. But the Angels need the psalmist to tell them when to praise God abi...l

Very importantly, you dodged the question, as expected.

Was the psalmist praying or not?

What you said here is just confused garbage.

as far as dodging your question on the last page, I answered it before reading this post,
"as expected"....who would dodge you?

italo:
So Jesus did not repeat the same prayer 3 times?

Naaah, He "understandably asked the Father that request three times that night, and not all at the same time". Do you even understand this guy?

italo:
So Jesus did not repeat the same prayer 3 times?

You blasphemously say Jesus prayed repetitiously while Jesus Himself said that kind of prayer is of the heathen.

Syncan:



Since Jesus did not pray "Our Father" in the garden, so he didn't pray abi? SMH. We that say "our father" nko? You start to count how many we say in order to decide if the number was ok...or we have to add more.

Aha, at bold, No he didn't, he was teaching them in Sunday school or Catechism class to Praise God. Lol. Or reminding them maybe....lest they forget.

Yeah, and was he praying?

Just more confused rubbish.

johnw74:


Just more confused rubbish.

Was the Psalmist Praying?

italo:


And praise is not prayer?

Who is your "pastor" or G.O?

You blasphemously say Jesus prayed repetitiously and now you are dodging it.

Syncan:



His name is daddy.

Mocking the LORD.

italo:
Was the psalmist praying?

Simple qweshion!

simple question which i answered you at length, and showed what a dil you are, look for it.

Syncan:


Naaah, He "understandably asked the Father that request three times that night, and not all at the same time". Do you even understand this guy?

You blasphemously say Jesus prayed repetitiously when Jesus himself said that type of praying is off the heathen.

Syncan:



Was the Psalmist Praying?

I answered italo's post look for it, I'm sure you only see what you want to see.

The mocking rc's:

italo:


Abeg make your zing prepare food for Johnw47 too o.

You know say hunger sef dey make person confuse.

Syncan:



Yes o, abeg rich4god prepare for Johnw74 too o, so he wouldn't accuse us of discriminating against him, abeg o, I have not recovered from the last one.

Mocking God:

Syncan:



His name is daddy.

In these verses God is talking specifically about rc's

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

the rcc forbids priests and nuns to marry
the rcc commands abstaining form meats on fridays.

johnw74:


Mocking the LORD.

So your pastor or G.O is now your LORD, ok.

johnw74:

You blasphemously say Jesus prayed repetitiously when Jesus himself said that type of praying is off the heathen.

SMH

johnw74:

I answered italo's post look for it, I'm sure you only see what you want to see.

I asked the question first, it is not hard to say yes or no is it? Was the psalmist praying?

johnw74:
The mocking rc's:
Mocking God:
In these verses God is talking specifically about rc's
1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
the rcc forbids priests and nuns to marry
the rcc commands abstaining form meats on fridays.

Why are you so filled with bitterness, now you're deviating from the issue on ground, just like Italo said you would. Chai

Syncan:


So your pastor or G.O is now your LORD, ok.



SMH




I asked the question first, it is not hard to say yes or no is it? Was the psalmist praying?

Why are you so filled with bitterness,

You have it wrong, Im saying it as it is. It could be bitter to you.

now you're deviating from the issue on ground, just like Italo said you would. Chai

Why do you lie, I told you I answered, again I say look for it.

Syncan:

Naaah, He "understandably asked the Father that request three times that night, and not all at the same time". Do you even understand this guy?

It's a pity that someone can reason this way.

Isn't repetitive prayer meant to be at different times? One after the other?

Can someone make repetitive prayers at the same time?

Can I say 10 hail marys at the same time?

It's honestly a pity.

I am surprised no one even looked to analyze what happened in luke 9:29-31. Anyway I must say I did learn a lot on this thread. Kudos to everyone

jnrbayano:


Answer my question first bro so that I can answer yours.

Here is it again,

"I delivered him (that target in my example) from that danger. No?"

Yes you did buh the stance here makes your example of no effect as we ain't told in the bible she is seated with God at the moment.

She was born mortal and remained mortal as such she shears same fate as all mortal men until the return of our Lord Jesus Christ .

Of course Jesus did listen to her plea in the bible buh remember, that was as she was living (in flesh and blood) and as such could even be an example to man kind (children obey ur parents).

It's written, it's appointed unto man (Mary inclusive) to die (natural death), and after death, judgment.

Tallesty1:
This short prayer says otherwise.





We fly to thy patronage, O holy Mother of God;
despise not our petitions in our necessities,
but deliver us always from all dangers,
O glorious and blessed Virgin.
Amen.


I wonder who gave her such power.

catholics claim not to worship Mary,but honour her.the problem is,they don't know that extreme honour to a man steers up jealousy in the heart of God.they simply give Mary too much honour, which makes them worship her indirectly.you don't need to call a thing your God before you can be worshiping it,you worship it when you value it more than God...simply put,catholics honour Mary more than they honour Jesus...

Ochek:


Yes you did buh the stance here makes your example of no effect as we ain't told in the bible she is seated with God at the moment.

She was born mortal and remained mortal as such she shears same fate as all mortal men until the return of our Lord Jesus Christ .

Of course Jesus did listen to her plea in the bible buh remember, that was as she was living (in flesh and blood) and as such could even be an example to man kind (children obey ur parents).

It's written, it's appointed unto man (Mary inclusive) to die (natural death), and after death, judgment.

Glad you answered.

Now what point do you wanna make again about that prayer?

Mary believed in Jesus, without that she wouldnt be saved, we need to know some key things.THERE IS NO OTHER MEDIATOR OR INTERCESSOR JESUS IS OUR HIGH PRIEST ANYONE THAT EXHALTS A CREATURE ABOVE THE CREATOR CANNOT ENTER HEAVEN. Exodus 20:4 and Leviticus 26:1 Dont bow or worship any image of anything or any person known or unknown it is IDOLATRY and no Idolater can enter Heaven.

misreal:
catholics claim not to worship Mary,but honour her.the problem is,they don't know that extreme honour to a man steers up jealousy in the heart of God.they simply give Mary too much honour, which makes them worship her indirectly.you don't need to call a thing your God before you can be worshiping it,you worship it when you value it more than God...simply put,catholics honour Mary more than they honour Jesus...

Yeah, and God came to report to you.