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| Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by KingSango(m): 6:23pm On Jul 02, 2015 |
Greetings, I've written a post showing the extreme weather that is happening all over the planet, including wrecking havoc in the United States of America. There were some mockers because some Africans, still invested in foreign gods, mock our ancestral celestial knowledge as being primitive and backwards. I was under the false impression this type of invasiveness and silliness died out with independence from Colonialism, but I am wrong. Look Sango is the Orisha of fire, the ancestor Alaafin Sango was defied only because he embodied the spirit of the fire of Olodumare. No Orisha is a human being, Orishas are cosmic forces. Oya is the element of air which is why she is the Ayaba/Queen of the 4 winds. Esu represents the cosmic energy force but this force is conscious in itself, so the ancestors named it Esu and give it the personality of a trickster. Esu is actually a neutral force but can change temperament from Yin to Yang or Yang to Yin, depending upon how Esu is acted upon, situations, Olodumare's will, etc. Orumila is the collective wisdom of the Creator, and it is a conscious force like Esu, in and off itself, the conscious wisdom directs the entire cosmos and knows all things. Orunmila is the Alaafin of the cosmos and 2nd only to Olodumare himself. By using human characters to describe the Orishas our ancestors invented a way in which we can focus upon them and direct intention, the whole system of IFA is a brilliant scientific metaphysical masterpiece. No other divination system on Earth matches its accuracy. Here is a scientist who says that the solar storms are affecting Earth's climate: A CME has to be directed toward Earth for it to affect Earth. I know this probably contradicts every one else, but solar activity has a direct effect on the Earth's climate/weather with a time delay of from 3 to 4 days to a week. I've been watching the correlation of sunspots on the near-side of the sun and the development of tropical depressions/storms on Earth since March. Sunspots are magnetic storms as well. There's a pretty direct correlation with sunspot groups that last a day or more and tropical or sub-tropical low air pressure system disturbances somewhere on Earth in the week following the sunspot group. Since the sun's and the Earth's magnetic fields can and do connect, the logical conclusion is that magnetic disturbances on the sun, along with the sun's electrmagnetic radiation, does effect the weather/climate on Earth. A massive CME directed toward Earth will heat up and expand the Earth's atmosphere as some one else explained, but there is no reason to think that the weather will be abnormal because of a CME. Earth has been through man solar storms before and life has survived. This lady is studying this and recognizing the affects upon the Earth's weather after a solar storm. Yet she doubts here own conclusions in the end because she has no more data to disprove the obvious conclusion, that solar storms do affect Earth's weather. Most solar flares are thousands of times bigger than the Earth itself. Imagine the Sun as your neighborhood and the Earth as a tennis ball. That's how big the Sun is actually compared to the Earth. It only takes 8 minutes for the light of the Sun to reach the Earth and 3 to 4 days it seems for this heat this reach the Earth and have this affect. Sango is fire, cosmic fire, and Sango brings about creation and destruction, thus His double axe can be used for peace or war. Sango is the Baba of Ibejis, Sango is the master of duality. Even you Bible heads know that the Bible's revelations says the world will be destroyed by fire. The Earth is heating up, caused by solar storms, there was one back in March and 2 of them in June. After which we have been experiencing some crazy extreme weather. Again it is the second coming of Sango, the cosmic Christ, our ancient Kemet Heru armed with his solar disk, to destroy Set for good. Human beings are in tune with nature and the forces of nature, Fire, Earth, Water and Air. The Chinese have 5 elements, one not mentioned here is Metal. But most cultures on Earth only have 4, metal comes from Earth so they actually one in the same, the Chinese counts Earth twice in their cosmology. But I believe we can through metaphysics channel cosmic energies and some more than others. This is what I believe is behind all magical systems, like IFA, Voodoo, Wicca, Santeria, Necromancy, Satanism, Luciferianism, etc. To give up one's power for organized religion has been the mistake of Africans and conquered people. By willingly submitting to ignorance to how the universe works because your religion calls it witchcraft or sorcery has lead to much misunderstanding. That's why I believe so many modern Africans are asleep, along with African Diaspora. But Sango will wake you up. Love, Sango. 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by Rilwayne001: 4:41am On Jul 03, 2015 |
Lol. [ 3 Likes |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by Nobody: 5:22am On Jul 03, 2015 |
Ancient Africans were never as stupid as the recent ones who have turned Christians and Muslims. At least some still appreciate the metaphor surrounding Sango,Oya and co. The Bible itself is a metaphor. Christ dying is the spiritual death of Africans,I hope they get to rise again as the bible predicted. 2 Likes |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by macof(m): 2:20pm On Jul 04, 2015 |
Rilwayne001:What's funny? 1 Like |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by Rilwayne001: 2:54pm On Jul 04, 2015 |
macof:I thought according to the story of sango, he hanged himself out of hanger at the end of the day, is that true? 1 Like |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by KingSango(m): 4:31pm On Jul 04, 2015 |
Rilwayne001: Nothing could be further from the truth. This story was told by Catholic missionaries centuries after the transition of Alaafin Sango. Sango's lifetime was some 600 years ago. The Catholic Church sought to convert Yorubas from their faith, IFA, told lies, tortured, bribed and murdered Yorubas to convert them. This persisted with a constant smearing of the Orishas, especially Esu, who was likened to the Devil or Satan. This plot occurred assisted by the fact many Africans could not read and the empire of Oyo was at war with the Fulani. The British armed the Fulanis with guns and cannons. The long 10 year civil war also worn down the empire ,fought by the kingdoms of Yorubaland in rebellion to Oyo, just before the Fulani assault. The lack of taxation and subjects no longer in obedience drained the Oyo Mesi, the Alaafin, and the state control over the empire. Soon lawlessness overcame the empire, fake kings rose up, meaning they were not authorized by Oyo as was the law and custom, many tribes taken in slavery, and the empire divided by new colonial territory lines, thus Oyo is now in Nigeria, Benin, Togo and Ghana, many in Diaspora. The people were lost and subject to new control and simply accepted the new life as the way it was. The myths set in and now the people repeat them as if they were true. None of the myths of Sango hanging himself are in the Odu. Even the one about Sango fighting with his generals isn't in the Odu either. But confusing Sango, who was a human being, with the Orisha of fire is a mistake, Alaafin Sango is Baba Egun, Sango is Olodumare's spirit of fire and justice. They are only intertwined when speaking of Baba Sango's life, the once Alaafin of Oyo, having been defied, because he was possessed with this cosmic spirit and thus defied by the Oyo Mesi. We must not forget the Elders because after choosing a descendant of Sango to be Alaafin, all of them invest their power in the new Alaafin. The Elders train the new Alaafin how to be a just and noble ruler, they teach him the sacred incarnations of his ancestors, they put the Alaafin through rituals and tests, thus Oyo Mesi are the king makers and dethroners too! Also the mothers of Oyo, we owe much thanks, because the women preserve the true riches and treasures of Sango, Oriki Sango, Sango's dances which invoke his holy spirit, Sango's ceremonies, without the women these treasures would be lost. The mothers of Oyo also upkeep the Temple of Sango in Ibadan. And then there is the cult of Sango, Oba Kuso, in the town of Kuso lies the fanatic followers of Oba Sango, the High Priest of Sango. These Yorubas love Sango extremely, and caution should be observed for anyone disrespecting Sango in their presence. Kuso is said to be the place the body of Baba Egun Sango lies in tomb. Who knows? I'm not an expert on that. There is Ogboni Society, which is a Yoruba secret society to preserve Yoruba civilization, Ogboni was started by Alaafin Sango, the Alaafin is a member but doesn't have to attend the meetings, this society keeps subjects in line and prevents treachery from whispers and assassignation plots against the Alaafin, or members of Oyo state. Sango is more than just a simple religious system, a cosmic spirit of Olodumare, Sango was a true king of kings, an Egun ancestor, and in fact Sango is Christ in all equal terms and even greater. But remember all Orishas have never lived as humans, they are cosmic forces recognized by the Egun/Ancient and given human character to facilitate our intention when invoking them. Love, Sango. 1 Like 2 Shares |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by Nobody: 5:19pm On Jul 04, 2015 |
Sometimes I wonder why Africans turn to European religions when the solution lies in their backyard. Meaning; Africans have lost the magic touch which made them look superhuman,to the extent that Black-African-Power is now misquoted as evil,when it is the same mystical powers the Illuminati are guiding with their lives. Ancient African rites are being conducted by Elite Europeans regularly in secret. When I visted the French and British museum,I was shocked to see Sango's pot and other African "idols" they claimed they destroyed. I think we were fooled and given the fake Islam and Christianity in exchange for our own. 4 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by Nobody: 5:26pm On Jul 04, 2015 |
Images includes pots of Songo, oya and others 3 Likes 1 Share
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| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by Nobody: 5:30pm On Jul 04, 2015 |
Images of Africa they love and admire. You will find them auctioned for millions of pounds while in African households you will find white jesus. 2 Likes 1 Share
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| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by Nobody: 5:34pm On Jul 04, 2015 |
The artifeds of Africans sell for millions of pounds in Europe and guess what? White jesus mostly found in over 50 millions household in Nigeria sell for peanuts. Shows which ones are more quality. 2 Likes
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| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by KingSango(m): 5:42pm On Jul 04, 2015 |
ifeness: Most certainly Africa was robbed and tricked into worshipping the demons Europeans had created and feed, their defied ancestors. I think the image of Jesus was based some ancient Greek ruler. I forget the name but General Seti I, talks much detail about this European ruler which the character Jesus is one of his paths. When we pray to their Gods we strengthen Europeans and this is why they appear to get stronger even though we have right on our side. But when you pray to the Orishas, our defied ancestors infused with cosmic forces, the Orishas respond almost immediately to our requests. This is why Haitian Vodou is so powerful. But if we don't worship our Orishas in unison they can't free us totally. We have yet to understand that metaphysical energies exist, especially group energy, and when we pray together to the Orishas they become more powerful in our community. Like if you don't feed your ancestors and remember them you will experience poverty and hardship. Some of our problems lie in the spiritual realm at the root and others are in the physical realm. Like what good is it to call upon Oshun to bless you with prosperity only for you to spend it like a fool? Treasury should be spent to make a beautiful kingdom. Love, Sango. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by Nobody: 6:14pm On Jul 04, 2015 |
KingSango: The Orisha are connect to our chakras,especially the crown chakra. What happens when you decide to sell your mobile phone charger? Your phone dies,you are unable recharge your mobile,hence you become disconnected and lost in the wilderness. Countries like Haiti that has held unto the original African school of mystic have been strip off foreign aids, buried with dept and called evil all because they failed to bow to the European opinion of a civil society. Ancient Africans had mastered the act of manipulating various energy. A knowledge we have already lost,maybe still in the hand of a few who are misusing them today. |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by macof(m): 10:02pm On Jul 04, 2015 |
Rilwayne001:Is this the answer to my question  |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by Rilwayne001: 11:57pm On Jul 04, 2015 |
macof: Of course the topic is funny. What does he mean by "silly modern african" ? 1 Like |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by Orunto: 10:31am On Jul 05, 2015 |
Sango will soon strike them all. |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by Rilwayne001: 10:59am On Jul 05, 2015 |
Orunto: Has sango ever struck anyone? I thought according to the story of sango, he hanged himself out of hanger at the end of the day, is that true? |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by Orunto: 2:08pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
Has sango ever struck anyone? Yes!!! I thought according to the story of sango, he hanged himself out of hanger at the end of the day, is that true? Yes. Just like Jesus allowed Himself to be crucified by Devine Power. These are the ways of the spirits. As He faded off the noose, He instructed His believers to worship Him from then onwards in spirit and He would answer them by fire. |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by Rilwayne001: 4:59pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
Orunto: hummm..really? any prove? Yes. Just like Jesus allowed Himself to be crucified by Devine Power. Lol. So, you are now comparing jesus with sango. Jesus was condemned to death by those who felt he has come to spoil their business. Was sango condemned to death? NO. Sango got tired of this world and went on to hang himself. And as we a know, only cowards commit suicide. These are the ways of the spirits. As He faded off the noose, He instructed His believers to worship Him from then onwards in spirit and He would answer them by fire. Have you ever seen sango answered by fire? Why does sango requires his believers to worship him? |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by KingSango(m): 8:04pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
Look Sango is not a cult, although in Kuso, Sango maybe because of the love of Sango. Baba Egun Sango was the Alaafin about 600 years ago did a lot of good for the people. The Oriki Sango, speaks of Alaafin Sango bringing much needed food supplies to towns and villages starving because of war. This may be the reason Kuso loves Sango so much. But Sango is not a cult. The current Alaafin Oba Adeyemi III is the living Sango. Oba Adeyemi III, is the official head of Oyo state but every Alaafin is considered the living Sango. Sango is a title of a personage in one form, the political. Sango has bloodline descendants, that are alive today and many live in the palace. In the spiritual form, Sango is the spirit of Olodumare's fire, his justice and direct strength, fire is the most powerful element in the cosmos. Fire creates and destroys star systems, creates galaxies, etc. In the religious form, Sango is a deity of worship, by observing Sango we are growing in our strength, resolve, creativity and strategic thought. The only problem is simple minded fools, of low intellect, who refuse to see Sango or Yoruba deities as complex. There is a temple of Sango in Ibadan with regular religious service and observance of Sango as is other Orishas. Let's compare Sango to Jesus, although I know Sango is greater than Jesus. Sango embodied a real personage once. Alaafin Sango 1400 B.C. Jesus Christ never existed. Sango has a tomb. Jesus Christ has no tomb. Sango has living descendants. Jesus Christ has no living descendants. Sango was an Alaafin, Yoruba for King of kings. Jesus Christ was an evangelists, a carpenter. Sango's state council is Oyo Mesi, they are real, they are a family lineage and have descendants. Jesus Christ's disciples none of them were real and none of them have tombs, and none of them have descendants. Sango is professed to have supernatural powers, everyone knows Yoruba Ifa, Vodou is very real. Jesus Christ is professed to have supernatural powers. Yet I've not seen a priest of Jesus demonstrate such. Sango has a temple built in His honor. Jesus Christ has lots of churches all over the world. Sango has images they all look like a West African man. Jesus Christ has images most of them look like a White man. Sango had 3 wives and His mother was a Queen of Tapa. Jesus Christ had no wife, His mother was an ordinary woman. Really I can't see the comparison, not at all. If there is a Christ that African people should embrace it is Sango. And if Christ is the one coming at the end of time, the last days, whatever language you use, then it is mostly likely an African man. Africans are the chosen people of God. Everyone knows that. All Africans including diaspora are the chosen of God. Yoruba culture is the most popular in Nigeria, in all of Africa, and in the Diaspora. Kemet culture is well known but its not a living culture anymore, its practiced deeply underground. Yoruba culture is the most well known African culture on the planet. So if there is a Christ coming then He would defiantly be Yoruba or West African in origin. Sango is the most celebrated Orisha because He is Olodumare's justice and He brings fairness and balance. Sango is just, civilized and a living king. There's no way anyone can convince me that Jesus is the Christ some dead Jew of long, long ago who was abused and crucified. Who's faith was started by Roman sodomites practicing Babylonian witchcraft. Don't believe me research it. Also even the Hebrew faith of Hebrew Israelites doesn't compare to the depth of IFA. So Sango is a religion connected to IFA so at the base of Sango is Orunmila, cosmic wisdom. Sango is wise. Also Alaafin Adeyemi III is the most powerful king in all of Africa. No other King in Africa rules over such a powerful people as the Yorubas, who are a worldwide people, true ambassadors to Africa. No other people and no other King. Sango is Christ. End of Story. Ayikabeyai Sango. Mana Mana Orisha. Mana Mana Esu Ina. http://www.alaafin-oyo.org/main/ 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by Kay17: 10:20pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
But has the religion evolved to the needs of modern times? |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by macof(m): 12:20am On Jul 06, 2015 |
Rilwayne001: Why don't you go learn what it takes to call yourself yoruba. All this here just exposes how much you are lost 1 Like |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by macof(m): 12:25am On Jul 06, 2015 |
Kay17: Why would you call Sango devotion a religion? |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by Rilwayne001: 12:31am On Jul 06, 2015 |
macof: I have always love reading Yoruba history and listening to programmes on radio that has to do with the history of yorubas. Infact, I admire some of your threads in the cultural section. Perhaps I wasn't well informed about the history of sango. You can save me from being ignorant of who sango was by narrating the story to me or directing me to a well documented site about him. We are all here to learn. 2 Likes |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by Nobody: 12:43am On Jul 06, 2015 |
@macof:Sango was a mad man, I heard he was d brain behind d power failure in Nigeria, not until PHCN took over from NEPA(sango company). Can u tell me where to locate his grave, I wanna pi$$ on his grave now. Rilwayne001, am watching u!!!!!!!!! |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by KingSango(m): 1:59pm On Jul 06, 2015 |
Rilwayne001: Expressing and spreading lies doesn't make your point. As I've said missionaries spread the lies that Sango hung himself centuries after his death. So how does one make history after the fact? Alaafin Sango, Baba Egun, died centuries before any European made it into the inner parts of West Africa. Europeans were primarily confined to the coastal region, due to the fact the ancestors had armies and large bodies of foreigners weren't allowed into the inner kingdoms where lied their seats of power. Sango didn't hang himself, he died a natural death. After his death his Brother Ajaka was put on the throne again by Oyo Mesi. Sango ascended and was a enlightened human being that's why he was defied. Sango was a just and noble King, which is why he is so popular with the people. There are many lies about Sango and Esu, mostly spread by Catholic priests seeking to convert Yorubas. Lots of stories in Brazil, all fairy tales, about Sango being a womanizer, because Sango had 3 wives. Polygamy is normal culture in West Africa, and contraire to popular opinion, the women are the ones who suggested polygamy not the men. Because of wars defending Africa from centuries of invasions, many of the men died in battle, this left an imbalance of men to women ratio. So the Queen Mother suggested that women accept their husbands having more than one wife so women who's husbands died in battle could have a father for their children and for them women to have a man. Africa has always operated on necessity to preserve its rich culture. Polygamy is common throughout Africa because of all of the invasions, but the law gave the first wife priority and she was the head wife. Thus Obba was Sango's first wife and Queen Mother of Oyo and all of Yoruba kingdoms. Sango never disrespected Ayaba Obba like many of the silly Brazilian fairy tales suggest by cheating on her with Oshun and Oya. This is nonsense. Obba was a princess of a kingdom, it was common in the ancient days for the Alaafin to take for his first wife a princess of another kingdom so there would be peace between the two kingdoms. It was Obba who taught Oya martial arts, as all royal family members were taught martial arts so that they could defend themselves if attacked. Oya wasn't of royal lineage. It is quite clear Oya was a village girl, she is affiliated with Ogun, means she was familiar with hunting, tools, farming and these village women do. Oya is known as Queen of Storms, which means, most village people are farmers and know juju related to storms, how to pray for rain, etc, all the environment juju that is practiced by village Africans. Most of these facts can be easily discerned if we study history and not all these fairy tales. The reason Brazilians womanized Sango is because they syncretized the Orishas with Catholic Saints, thus since Catholics are monygamous they had to make Sango a womanizer to fit the script of their new faith. Yorubas were forced into Catholic faith by their slave masters and had to disguise the Orishas underneath the Saints for survival of their culture. Stop spreading lies. Love, Sango. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by KingSango(m): 2:13pm On Jul 06, 2015 |
Kay17: The religion has evolved you are witnessing it now. As we are coming out correcting the misconceptions, dis-spelling the lies, much of what was not possible decades ago because of the inability to reach the people. But now this internet and other technologies allow us to reach millions of Yorubas, Dahomeans, and other West Africans to bring them back to the traditions. Love, Sango. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by KingSango(m): 2:15pm On Jul 06, 2015 |
OREMUSSANCTUS: You are just being disrespectful in a very vulgar way. Its amazing what evil, without truth on their side, will often to stoop to name calling, insults, lies and misdirection to keep evil spreading. 1 Like |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by KingSango(m): 2:21pm On Jul 06, 2015 |
ifeness: I can connect the Orishas to the charkas and have discovered an ancient meditation of the rising serpent. This is the mating of Sango and Oya. This is a very powerful meditation based upon the 9 charkas, yes you read correctly, there are 9 chakras, and the mantra is Sango's name itself. Sango's name is a mantra, a very powerful heat generating mantra. 9 is the number of Oya. I learned about the 9 chakras from a secret society in Asia, revealed by Mr. Brynn Orr some years ago, who has disappeared from the internet. I plan to reveal it soon. This is all based upon Yoruba culture. Love, Sango. 2 Likes |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by macof(m): 3:22pm On Jul 06, 2015 |
Rilwayne001: https://www.nairaland.com/2431386/sango-olukoso I made a thread just for you  |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by Rilwayne001: 3:32pm On Jul 06, 2015 |
macof: All right, thanks. I'll go through it. |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by macof(m): 9:48pm On Jul 06, 2015 |
Rilwayne001: I hope you do |
| Re: Silly Modern Africans Who Mock The Ancestral Sango. by Rilwayne001: 10:18pm On Jul 06, 2015 |
macof:Yessir.  |
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