Henry120:


Nigeria uses a much higher Poverty indicator than any country in Africa.


The report is clear, 39% of South-Africans, and 12 million of your people live in extreme poverty.

lezz:
show your hand.

Nothing could be more laughable than a "developed" country with a peaceful atmosphere ranking 122nd worse place to live.

Henry120:


Factually speaking you don't. Probably 5000 more.

Patchesagain:


Well, according to wiki (well, the sources contained in the article)

Nigeria is the worlds 67th biggest cement manufacturer*

South Africa is the worlds 26th biggest*

*Based off 2008 figures

Henry120:


Nigeria produces 45 million metric tonnes of cement, South-Africa produces 25 million metric tonnes.


I really don't get your figures.

Patchesagain:


1. I posted a citation with figures
2. You have not (and are using words like "probably"

We produce 100X more power than you, if you wish to dispute this then provide data to substantiate your claims.

EVarn:
Contrary to what you may believe,producing military hardware isnt as simple as boiling noodles.How ironic for you to continue puffing vigorously into a vuvuzela about Nigeria's fledgling defense industry,when all the hardwares you have ever made are failures of catastrophic magnitude: rooivalk,oliphant,cobra,Denel seeker suv. drone etc...
At least we dont cloak a french land cruiser with armour and pass it off as an indigenous IFV{like a country we all know}.

Henry120:


Present the figures.

Henry120:


Citations have also been provided for mine, only household generated power isn't captured, and given our population, I estimated it between 8000- 10000mw.


You probably produce only 5000mw more power than Nigeria. This is if we aren't higher.

Patchesagain:


Where are you getting these figures from?

Patchesagain:


South Africa produces 257.9 b/kwh (17th in the world)

Nigeria produces 24 b/kwh (67th in the world)
http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?v=79&t=100

South Africa produces 100X the electricity Nigeria does.

The two new power stations we are building equal your entire national power grid

jln115:

How do you want me to present figures on privately generated electricity in SA? Unlike Nigeria we dont have to generate our own electricity to survive, its an expected service provided by the Government!

Why do you think when we have 4 hours of load shedding a week it makes front page news? If the lights went of for only 8 hours a week in Nigeria your people will literally sh1t themselves out of shock and joy!!

vandalZA:
boko haram would've been a history in Africa and to the knew south African generation being one of the south African heritage site.

MduZA:


lol...the question remains:when are you going to make your own?

Patchesagain:


You estimate

Factually speaking, with available figures, we produce 100X more electricity than you

EVarn:

Measuring in terms of kilowatts per hour does not account for 'lost volts';
In Nigeria's case,hundreds of kilowatts are lost during transmittion and distribution of power,while hundreds more cannot be accessed due to gas shortfall and decrease in water level{for our dams}.
Therefore,measuring in b/kwh is highly inaccurate.
PS: How does 257.9 b/kwh amount to 100 times of 24 b/kwh?
I know mathematics is a south african's fort,but damn!,use a calculator!{if you know how to use one}

Henry120:


You miss the point entirely. We are talking about power generated in each country. It doesn't matter if it is Privately generated or Government generated power. It is simply power generated. I don't think Power in the US is generated by the government?


What is the captive power output of each individual country? This was the question. Not what the government or private sector provides.

jln115:

We generate 257,900,000,000 KWh(16th in the world) Nigeria generates 25,700,000,000(69th in the world)

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2232rank.html

Patchesagain:


Ok, now factor in the rest of our industry

Henry120:

Manufacturing accounts for 8% of GDP
Services accounts for 51% of GDP
Oil and gas accounts for 16% of GDP.

Henry120:


Again, that's not accurate. Heavy duty manufactures who aren't on the grid produce 15,000mw of power. There is also household power generation.

You cannot just toss them out because they aren't on the grid or provide supplementary power.

lezz:
if I am a south African , there is a 3/4 chances I will contact HIV or die in a gun related violence. The chances that my aged grandmother will be gang raped is 2/3.

No, I consider south Africans the most uncouth in Africa. Not even Burundi can be xenophobic and thieves three times in their history.

Such a shame Africa freed these slave-magnets.

Docile lots.

Henry120:


On race, it is a fact of life. You cannot wish racial inequality away in South-Africa.

On Poverty in South-Africa

South Africa: Where 12 million live in extreme poverty

Last year, the World Bank gave South Africa a good story tell. It released a report that said due to South Africa's “slightly progressive” tax system and “highly progressive” government spending, around 3.6 million people have been lifted out of poverty, halving the number of South Africans living on less than $1.25 a day. Because of grants, free basic services and taxes favouring the poor, the poverty rate dropped from 46.2% to 39%.

http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2015-02-03-south-africa-where-12-million-live-in-extreme-poverty/#.VZvnfmpMVxs


Nigeria

Poverty: 33.1%
Unemployment : 24 %

South-Africa

Poverty: 39%
Unemployment: 26.40%

EVarn:

Measuring in terms of kilowatts per hour does not account for 'lost volts';
In Nigeria's case,hundreds of kilowatts are lost during transmittion and distribution of power,while hundreds more cannot be accessed due to gas shortfall and decrease in water level{for our dams}.
Therefore,measuring in b/kwh is highly inaccurate.
PS: How does 257.9 b/kwh amount to 100 times of 24 b/kwh?
I know mathematics isnt a south african's fort,but damn!,use a calculator!{if you know how to use one}

Henry120:


Again, figures have been provided. If South-Africa produces more electricity than Nigeria, it surely isn't above 5000mw.

This is an actual fact.

vandalZA:
LOLEST stop posting links from newspapers because I can create my own news and links too and show us what the world bank says.....since then you are using the Nigerian mentality.!

Patchesagain:


According to available figures we produce 10X more power

Henry120:


On race, it is a fact of life. You cannot wish racial inequality away in South-Africa.

On Poverty in South-Africa

South Africa: Where 12 million live in extreme poverty

Last year, the World Bank gave South Africa a good story tell. It released a report that said due to South Africa's “slightly progressive” tax system and “highly progressive” government spending, around 3.6 million people have been lifted out of poverty, halving the number of South Africans living on less than $1.25 a day. Because of grants, free basic services and taxes favouring the poor, the poverty rate dropped from 46.2% to 39%.

http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2015-02-03-south-africa-where-12-million-live-in-extreme-poverty/#.VZvnfmpMVxs


Nigeria

Poverty: 33.1%
Unemployment : 24 %

South-Africa

Poverty: 39%
Unemployment: 26.40%

Henry120:

According to available stats you don't.

Henry120:

According to available stats you don't.