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Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by delishpot: 7:09pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
To be honest, these days I do not know how to seperate myths from truth anymore. I am on a quest, to find the truth, to seek the supreme being, the force behind all life. I want to talk to that force to school under its wings. Only my experience will I call true and real. Besides, how are we sure those Oyinbos were not albinos? Maybe the priests and our ancestors miss took the white people for Albinos who were born in the land years ago before the white men came. 1 Like |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by macof(m): 7:24pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
FOLYKAZE: How was "christianity" rendered? "Igbagbọ"? |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by gatiano(m): 7:42pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
Thankyou sir. A lot needs to be learnt about the kolanut. FOLYKAZE: |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by gatiano(m): 7:47pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
Yes, there are a few topics, and there are still a lot of books that Black people would have to read to get informed. First, We must unlearn the lies fed to us all our lives by learning the truth. http://farrakhanfactor.com/library/mttbm/mttbm55.html chapter 55, called the making of devil. And keep in mind that the 200 sheep, 200 chickens and 200 eggs for sacrifice in the Eji-Ogbe does not mean animals, it meant time. FOLYKAZE: |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by FOLYKAZE(m): 9:39pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
macof: Yes |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by macof(m): 9:58pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
FOLYKAZE: ![]() ![]() don't be gullible please, Igbagbọ is a pure yoruba word meaning "belief" Belief in every context of the word, it doesn't mean Christianity Please stop peddling this falsehood with them 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by gatiano(m): 10:37pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
Ouch! That hurts! That our Ancestors do not know the difference between an albino and a whiteman is so much impossible. I was only 3 years old when i knew the difference between albino and a white person. Yoruba calls albinoes "AFIN", and that is quite different from Oyinbo. A Black person has both the dominant genes and the recessive genes. The dorminant genes is way more and above the recessive genes. An Albino has both the dominant genes and the recessive genes. In their case, they have the recessive gene more and above the dominant genes. (two albinoes can give birth to a full black baby). Thus, an albino is a Black person. Oyinbo or non-blacks have had their dominant genes completely removed. their is not an atom of dominant gene left in them, two oyinbo parent can never birth a black baby. Albino started to appear only about 50,000 years ago , never more. The non-blacks appeared just 6100 years ago. The main purpose of you been created, is to find you and be a creator yourself. So the source is YOU. delishpot: 1 Like |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by delishpot: 11:30pm On Jul 10, 2015 |
gatiano: Very true. |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by FOLYKAZE(m): 7:02am On Jul 11, 2015 |
macof: Well, that is what I was told. Onigbagbo is the general word for christians here so I assume they are been refered to. Is Imole not a Yoruba word? But it mean muslim. |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by Nobody: 12:52pm On Jul 11, 2015 |
macof: Thank you for this. I have been following this thread and I wonder why figuring out igbagbo means belief/believe and not christianity. Saying Ifa makes mention of Islam, Christianity and or Jesus are recent inventions - these things were slipped into whatever Odus they are said to be present. For me, it is either the Onifa wre trying to validate their belief hinging it on these religions, or it is the other way round or possible the peddlers of a possible merger. Because if Ifa talks about these two beliefs then how about Judaism? Zoroastanism? Buddhism? Taoism? to mention a few? |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by Nobody: 12:53pm On Jul 11, 2015 |
FOLYKAZE: Igbagbo as a Yoruba word precedes Christianity and the word Imole refers to Islam being the religion from Mali - consequently, both are recent inventions. 1 Like |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by gatiano(m): 1:08pm On Jul 11, 2015 |
You are very correct. And Igbagbo is when one has going ignorant. Onigbagbo is a person who have turned something of knowledge or something that is meant to be researched or known into a belief system or culture. An Ifa priest can also be called onigbagbo , so is a muslim and especially christians when they turn into ignorance. Ifa is not a religion, Yoruba culture or the Igbo culture are not a religion, They are Mathematics, science of creation and history. FOLYKAZE: |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by gatiano(m): 1:26pm On Jul 11, 2015 |
Saying Ifa did not mention christianity, Islam, and others is to render Ifa Odu as weak, and as new and does not have power to see into the future. I know that Ifa Odu has events and deeds which have yet to happen. According to what I have read, there are 4096 of Odu Ifa, and that has not even touched 1% of the whole if there is an end to it atall. If Imole means Islam from Mali, why then do we look at Arabia as the source of Islam? History did not say the Hausa or/and the Fulani got Islam from Mali, It was from the North whence it came. If it was from Mali, Then, it support my sayings all along that Islam is much older than the Prophet Muhammad. And Islam was taught to the white-arabs from Africa, as well as all other belief systems. secondly, the word "IMOLE" is different from the word "IMALE". Yoruba language is not perfect, but it is better than most languages and all of the european languages. Yoruba does not pronounce "O" for "A" or "U" for "O" or turn "A" into "E", Yoruba is very distinctive with its words and letters. Thus "Imole" may not mean "From Mali" rather, Knowledge of enlightenment. 9jacrip: |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by gatiano(m): 1:54pm On Jul 11, 2015 |
Professor Gabriel Audu Oyibo (Nigerian mathematician from Kogi state), his Grand Unification theory or Theory of everything was based on Ifa. Instead of Black people who lack basic knowledge of mathematics to study it, they ignored it calling it nonsense because it shamed the white people. The white people couldn't believe such a magnificent theory can come out of the ghetto. They are working with it as we sit idle, using it to want to space travel, as it was used in the movie "interstellar". Well to the mathematicians on nairaland who are jobless, there maybe a work for you. https://www.scribd.com/doc/136770770/Geomancy-africa-ifa Just scroll down, to see what they are trying out of Ifa Odu. It is by the white people, so it is wrong, it is wrong from the very start of it. However, they can be corrected. The point of posting this link is to proof that African Traditional Religion is a billion times more than just a religion or belief, It is mathematics and history, from which other script came out from. Ifa Odu itself came out from a bigger script. |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by gatiano(m): 4:14pm On Jul 11, 2015 |
African origins of the oyinbo It's is kind of boring, but with depressing regularity questions crop up, whether white people "oyinbo" should or should not be initiated into Ifa Orisha. The arguement against, is usually that the Orishas disapprove of white people or where infact it is likely that the Black people disapprove of white people which to be honest I can hardly blame them for. Anyways, here is what Ifa said about the origin of the white people... and it doesn't seem that the Orisha disapprove disapprove of the oyinbo. Some stuff on how the white ethnicity (aka oyinbo) were born in Africa, according to Ifa based on the words spoken by Chief Fasuyi Kekere Awo of Ile-Ife, in 1985. It is in the EjiOgbe that the origin of whites is explained and narrated. There were three groups of oyinbo, respectively moulded by Obatala, Oluorogbo and Olokun. Obatala moulded the European groups. In 1985,there still was the Igbo Oyinbo (whiteman's wood) in Ile-Ife... for all I know, it may still be there. Before creating/moulding the white variety of the people of Ile-Ife, Obatala visited the diviners Alaanu, Sungbemi, Magbemiti, Saaraaga, and Ejufiri, who divine for him and made the necessary ebo. This way, the white ethnicitycame into being. When the whites were about to emigrate and populate the world from Africa, they informed Obatala of their plan. Obatala blessed them and gave them the following template for greeting and responding to each other: Greeting- Alo Response- Alo Greetings- Ewo maanio Response- Ewo danindanin Translation: Greetings- Hello Response- Hello Greetings- It is a taboo to forget the ways of greetings Response-It is a serious taboo. In 1985, there are still groups in Ile-Ife greeting one another in this manner, The white children of Africa (Oyinbo) that populated the world after Obatala created them, still greet and respond to each other until this very day. Can we now re examine the verses of the Bible? : " 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth." - Genesis 1: 26-28 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by FOLYKAZE(m): 5:09pm On Jul 11, 2015 |
9jacrip: From the verses I heard, Imale/Imole and Onigbagbo were mentioned which i was told mean Muslims and Christians. |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by macof(m): 12:19am On Jul 19, 2015 |
Gatiano. Could you quit bringing Ifa into ur program?(I don't know what else to call it without sounding aggressive) Those who have years of experience with odu Ifa haven't made something known who are you to know them? You can concentrate on ur nation of islam but Ifa cannot be used by drunks like yourself so please stop all this Ifa says this and that. ..all which Ifa never said This whole thread is just filled with jargon that I was so irritated 1 Like |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by gatiano(m): 11:54am On Jul 19, 2015 |
When something irritates you, the only solution you'd have left is to leave that which irritates you alone and fast. Evidently, the truth irritates you; I didn't by myself made the Odu Ifa, An Initiate made them, and he made them known on the worldwide web. Why would he have done that, if not for the message of the truth to be spread around? It turns out Yoruba and all other African traditions are not atall in anyway religion or religious, They are a pure form of mathematics, astronomy, sciences and history capable of bringing a person in oneness to their personal self and their surroundings. We turned it into religion of belief and ignorance, no wonder the suffering of the African people seemed to be limitless. Truth will always support truth, for the simple fact that TRUTH=TRUTH shows that all Black people are ONE, be it The Nation of Islam, or The Akan, or The Yoruba, or The Igbo, or Zulu, Igala, Fulani, Nawaubu Nation, Black Hebrews etc. If those who have been in Ifa practices knew alot and did not teach it as you have claimed, only for them to be shouting and complaining about the Black Christians and the Black Muslims for going after that which seem to be effective, then whose fault is that? What do you mean by who am I to know when some knew with experience and haven't made nothing known? Do those that have experience know the time atall? If there is anything that I have lied about or any place where I was wrong, Point it or them out to the people and I, if not, get off the tread since the truth irritates you. macof: 2 Likes |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by gatiano(m): 4:46pm On Jul 24, 2015 |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by gatiano(m): 9:49am On Jul 25, 2015 |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by gatiano(m): 12:09pm On Jul 25, 2015 |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by Polithiefcian(m): 9:45am On Oct 01, 2015 |
gatiano: Aboru aboye ooo Pls enlighten me on the dos and donts of eji ogbe. I know eji ogbe has some aborminations. I will be glad if u can list all of them for me. Thanks |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by orunto27: 9:39pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
"Odu" is Character in the Life of a Yoruba being. |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by KingSango(m): 5:18pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
I don't think Ejiogbe, the verse you mentioned, is talking about Whites, but ethnics groups. Many ethnics groups, which are bloodlines, are mistreated by other ethnic groups around them. Sometimes by relocating to another place they can find solace and peace. Like Exodus with the Hebrews, so-called story of the Bible, after sojourning in Egypt, suffering for 100s of years, they exit to their own promised land where they eventually find happiness. All around the world minority groups, mainly ethnic groups being oppressed, are experiencing what the Odu describes as mistreatment because of their differences, a denied lack of the right to develop. But IFA being wise and far seeing into the future, recommends the wise choice, suggested by Orunmila, for them to relocate to a place away from their enemies. Many African leaders have been calling for African Americans, suggested by the recent resurgence of racist violence, judicial and societal injustices, reminiscent of the 1960's, Jim Crow and Segregation era, that they should relocate to Africa, as the continent is rising or developing rapidly. And once African Americans do decide to relocate, this act will better their lot. They will experience improvement in wealth, as they have been working twice as hard, due to oppression, and receiving much less than they are worth. And once they experience this new fate their old enemies will try to mingle with them again but this time the tables will be in their favor. Orunmila is very wise. Love, Sango. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by gatiano(m): 4:25pm On Dec 05, 2015 |
There will definitely be dos and don'ts, Most definitely some aborminations like homosexuality. I don't know much of it, in truth I will say none. You know they are not written down, It is a month to ear stuffs which contains more than 33 degree knowledge, in some higher cases 36 truths (neter) and perhaps 360 degrees. I am waiting patiently for the Groits of Yorubaland to come out or The Arowins. Odu means chief. Polithiefcian: |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by gatiano(m): 4:31pm On Dec 05, 2015 |
That is because you have some sympathy for them. Even Sango won't do that. It is clearly written, spoken and translated. Black is Black, and when it is mentioned that they were perculier, that means they were totally different from the Blacks physically, mentally, morally and character wise. To such that it is some other Black tribe or people means Yoruba can hate on Biafra, on Hausa , Fulani, and all other tribes. It is more now clear to me when the priest stated that, "we will go to those lands and bring great things" He was not taking about now, He was talking about what God promised Abraham. It is the non-blacks He was referring to clearly. KingSango: |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by gatiano(m): 4:34pm On Dec 05, 2015 |
When I mean things, it may not be solely material. KingSango: |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by KingSango(m): 8:58pm On Dec 05, 2015 |
gatiano: I think we mean the same thing, I was only using the Odu in a rhetorically way as to say the Back To Africa movement must happen now. Whites will never offer Blacks justice in their lands and fighting for it will exhaust us. This is my point, even know Dr. Umar Johnson is looking for a place in Africa to place his all Black Boys school, which I think he should choose Yorubaland in Benin, thereby strengthening Oyo and Dahomey. I'm a for Oyo Empire first not all Africans first. Oyo Empire is the best and most equipped to bring everlasting change to Africa. It could be the first traditional government to break totally away from colonial rule, or have we forget beloved Nigeria is still under a colonial government. Anyway, there's no need of us fighting as we are on the same side. Love, Sango. |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by KingSango(m): 9:38pm On Dec 05, 2015 |
gatiano: Lions and Hyenas can't co-exist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWquLH6K0sk Also I wanted to add that you view my other posts before making false claim I have some sympathy for the enemy. But I do understand greater, we are fighting demon worshipers and they are all races of men. The only issue with Whites is they are so weak genetically the demons find it easier to manipulate them and control them as Whites have a very weak mental disposition genetically. But trust me, we are fighting demons, Freemasons are demon worshipers and they are all inside African governments ruining your countries. Lot of dumb Blacks think Freemasonry comes from Kemet, but hell IFA and Vodun comes from Kemet. Many people borrowed from Kemet but Ifa and Vodun are original because it was our ancestors who created Kemetic science, the Knights Templar and Jews all copied the teachings and made them demonic. We don't need Freemasonry, we have Ogboni and Wado and other African secret societies that are older, more ancient and have greater secrets in them. Love, Sango. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ3PNF5ZWZo |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by gatiano(m): 1:38am On Dec 20, 2015 |
I totally agree that Our Brothers and Sisters their should seperate if they want any growth. expecting the whiteman to change into a good man is impossible. That would never happen, except through a supernatural punishment immidiately after a sin is committed (like 1 second). Benin is a nice place to settle down, there isn't so much possessed religion non-sense there. However, Dr Umar should prepare how the people coming would be able to provide themselves all needed things. Very most importantly, to watchout for this white people while there and their stooges. KingSango: 1 Like |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by Nobody: 4:19pm On Jan 19, 2016 |
gatiano: Interesting. The Yoruba must be closer if not one of the early African people and languages to have origins of white people in their folklore. And to refer to them as having come from them. Something did happen to create different races. Evolution does not answer it all because different races do not just differ physically but spiritually too. |
Re: The Yoruba Odu. Eji Ogbe(oyinbo/whiteman). by KingSango(m): 4:38pm On Jan 19, 2016 |
Muafrika2: There is a spiritual world, some may call it a multiverse but that is what we are existing in. I said existing, because existence is different from life because life is the physical world. But above us in terms of power and frequency is a higher realm filled with different entities. All the ancient powers of Kemet were about calling down these great powers, this is the Orisha tradition. How most of the Orishas once lived on Earth, they came down from this higher realm. The Irunmole established this world and built it. Obatala, the most ancient lineage of African kings, Yemaya the most ancient lineage of African mothers. Obatala created all of mankind, even the Albino Obatala created, from which evolved the White. Demons or the Ajogun exists, the Jinn or Genies, the Ibilis, Devils, Aliens they are foolishly called. But if you take in account, extraterrestrial maybe in the Illuminati code word for these Ajogun. Since the paleskin is inferior genetically, they are worshipping the Ajogun, bringing this darkness that comes from possession. Europeans, Arabs and Jews are big time, well hidden, worshippers of black and evil magic. They use secret societies to control the world they have conquered military using traitors of Africa. The issue of treachery is what brought the African beneath these people. But it can be cured supernaturally and that is where Sango has the most power since Sango specifically, as a King Orisha, hates witches meaning worshippers of black and evil magic. This is my understanding of why our ancestors embarking to the new world, via way of slavery, in the hulls of ships, wrestled with which Orisa will destroy this demonic force. Sango was the only Orisa path save in entirety. Yet when Sango goes to war all the Orishas, including Obatala goes to war, and Ogun because Sango fights for justice, Ogun goes to war with Sango as well. Oya goes to war and that is why the weather is crazy. Oshun stops the fertility of all those who abuse women and children. We are in the end of days of the paleskin's rule and Africa is rising. We must hold to our African spirit. Love, Sango. |
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