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Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by Macelliot(m): 4:24pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
Ishilove:For better Elaboration... http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/NIV/why.htm |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by Stevosty: 5:06pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
ustavo:John 14:16 — And I will ask the Father and He will give you another Comforter TO BE WITH YOU FOREVER - the SPIRIT of Truth |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by ADENIKETINA2015(f): 5:09pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
Isn't it strange that Pastor Chris Oyakhilome, Pastor Kumuiyi, Pastor E. A. Adeboye etc still uses the NIV in their devotionals? We can't claim they were ignorant of the fact some texts were missing (used in footnotes) You are very very wrong about Baba Kumuyi. The church recognises only The King James Bible(old/new/revised but has to be KJV) but that doesn't mean you can't use another as an individual. But what my Daddy in the Lord and the church use is KJV. You can't teach with another in the Church... for uniformity sake and other reasons |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by Splinz(m): 5:32pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
Op, you're simply alarmed over nothing. It is advisable to have more than one version of the Bible, since it is obvious that a lot of passages are omitted from some version. Personally, I used RSV, NIV, & NKJV. This way, whatever I don't understand, lets say in RSV, NIV makes it plain, and vice versa. |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by folafola(m): 5:56pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
ustavo:kindly show us the name mohammed in the scripture, i will be glad to become a muslim oooo you will search till eternity but you wont find any, MOHAMMED is not the holy spirit read the book wella you were deceived into islam |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by Nuella222(f): 6:32pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
kellyJames5:!maraH okoB |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by bezimo(m): 6:59pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
ustavo: Hey, do not blaspheme or make sacrilegious statements. What relationship does light has with darkness. The abundance of your ignorance doesnt have a part 2.The comforter Jesus was refering to in the bible is the Spirit of Truth who he later showed to be the Holy Spirit who is God the Spirit. There is no reference of the deceiver called Mohamed in the Bible. Mohammed cannot be mentioned in the bible because he represents darkness and works in line with the blood thirsty demon called Allah who delights in blood shed, bombing, destruction, killing, raping, and deceit. That's the uncontestable TRUTH. Moreover the bible was written before the deceiver called Mohamed was born. |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by ustavo(m): 7:01pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
folafola: This book was not originally written in English, but y d translators also translated someone's name is baffling and somewhat disturbing. Muhammad means Comforter in English. |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by architez: 7:02pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
5minsmadness: Just saw this. Well, well, thanks a lot. Really appreciate it. BTW, There is this red hot thread where we are trying to determine what should be the parameters of the age of consent in 9ja (and wether there should even be a consent age at all). And also what sorts of punishment should be meted out and wether the punishment should vary depending on age. I think it's a discussion we seriously need to have. You may wish to add your two cents. Here is the thread: https://www.nairaland.com/2439827/age-consent-sex-what-want Maybe there is a thread u think I should comment on? Let me know. |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by masciv: 7:26pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
Then tear your amplified Bible too and don't forget other versions including the Kjv!...You say the NIV is satanic? Really? Amplified was also done by the same zondervan despite being more accurate than kjv in so many verses. Remember the so accepted Kjv was also translated by a man... King James... So you think KJV is accurate right?? It has a lot of added words..."check those in italics" (Hebrews 12:2 for instance...Its author and finisher of Faith not our Faith..."Our" wasn't part of it. So is every other word in italics in the KJV.) One thing to be noted and taken without unnecessary hypocrisy is that these bibles we know today were translated by men and man is not perfect whether you believe or not. In translation also, a lot of words are lost and meanings either rendered below accuracy or completely ignored. The same occurred in the NIV... Some scriptures in the NIV are even more accurate than the same in the KJV so don't just assume that these books are useless. All the translations you have today have tens of years attributed to their makeup so don't think they were just fabricated out of the blues. If you think the translations are faulty, then go learn Greek or Hebrews which the Bible was originally written or better still, read and learn about the Person whom all the words and revelations are centered upon...CHRIST. When you know CHRIST, you know life and aren't easily persuaded by words and people but remember that it's through these translations that we come into understanding of who GOD is even as inaccurate as they are. |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by masciv: 7:32pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
ustavo: Pardon me but I have to caution your ignorance...Muhammed means comforter?? Where is this, in Arabic... Right?? Was the Bible ever translated from Arabic?? Besides, Arabic is a language as others not a religion or anything so don't claim to own it. |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by Yinbanjonic(m): 7:52pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
ustavo:indeed Jesus talked about Muhammad but where he talked about him is Mathew 7:15-20 check and see for yourself |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by Nobody: 8:03pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
An2elect2: Lol I guess you're one of those religious fanatics, who refuse to see what's staring them in the face. However, your choosing to believe in something doesn't make it more or less real...if it's there, it's there. I didn't place the errors in the bible; they were there before I was born, and they'll probably be there long after I'm dead. The earlier you realise that, the better. ![]() ![]() If you want me to point them out to you, I'd be glad to oblige ![]() |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by folafola(m): 8:09pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
ustavo: Stop lying Mohammed means the praised one and holyspirit is the comforter and b the way does mohammed fulfilled the job to be done by holy spirit? was mohammed in the disciples? was mohammed sent by jesus? was mohammed eternal? was mohammed a spirit? i cant remember last time mohammed claimed he is learned and i dont know how he could remind the disciples what jesus had taught them, and he came six hundred years after jesus waoh!!! so none of the disciples were comforted by MOHAMMED. BRING ANOTHER LIE PLEASE |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by Nobody: 8:20pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
bezimo: What made the KJV original? 1 Like |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by michaelok(m): 8:27pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
Just few words and am out of this thread. "...you search the scriptures cos u think that in them u have eternal life" Arguing about translational omission is not needful. If u like use KJV or whatever, if the Spirit of God does not explain and minister to u in the words, they remain but mere letters. So be wise and listen to what The Holy Spirit will say in any given verse or footnote, except u r not a sheep that has the ear to listen and heart to discern. God bless you all. 1 Like |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by folafola(m): 8:29pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
JMAN05:same thing that made uthman version of quran original but the difference is that no one burnt off the biblical manuscripts but uthman burnt off all other contradictory versions of the quran so no manuscript to compare, can you imagine |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by plainbibletruth: 8:40pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
This relates to this topic: An Official Response From NIV publishers HERE IS AN OFFICIAL RESPONSE FROM NIV BIBLE PUBLISHERS! Dear, Thank you for checking on this before forwarding such false and misleading statements. It is good to see a Christian who uses their mind before simply believing such nonsense. These statements are false and silly and promoted either by those who don't know any better or who are intentionally trying to mislead. They have been promoted by some people for the last 40 years or so, but were refuted by good conservative scholars from the very beginning. First, the NIV does not remove ANY verses. Instead, like all good Bible translations, the NIV omits statements that were added later and WERE NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL TEXT. When the KJV was translated, the translators had only a few manuscripts of the New Testament available to them and these were very late (mostly from the Middle Ages). We now have hundreds of earlier and more reliable manuscripts. Scholars today recognize that we have a Greek text today that is much closer to the original than the KJV translators had available to them. So all modern versions (except the NKJV) use these older manuscripts. Even the NKJV puts the better readings in the footnotes (look for the abbreviation NU, which refers to the earlier and better manuscripts). Remember that the original books of the Bible had no chapter or verse divisions. These were added later. So to say that there are "verses" missing is wrong. What are "missing" are phrases or sentences that were added by later scribes and were not part of the original text. The NIV, like all modern versions, seeks to preserve what was originally there. Read the Preface to the NIV and some of this is explained. As far as the homosexual statement is concerned, this is simply false. None of the translators of the NIV were homosexuals (or Satanists!). All were conservative evangelical Christians fully committed to the inspiration and inerrancy of the text. For the names of the present and past committee members, see http://www.biblica.com/en-us/the-niv-bible/meet-the- translators/ http://www.bible-researcher.com/niv-translators.html Just check passages on homosexuality in the NIV and you will see that the NIV is not "soft" on homosexuality. Here are the main passages: Lev. 18:22 “ ‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable. Lev. 20:13 “ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. Rom. 1:26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. 1Cor. 6:9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 1Tim. 1:9 We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, 10 for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine So you see, these accusations are false and slanderous. It is a shame that many Christians are out to attack others rather than to promote the good news. Thanks again for your question. Blessings, Mark Strauss |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by Nobody: 9:28pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
folafola: I don't understand. What made it original? 1 Like |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by folafola(m): 9:56pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
JMAN05:2tim 3:16 that was why we had the scripture and we are not surprise there are manuscripts to compare and that authenticate the fact that the scriptures were written by men of old and not fabricated. but the quran was revised by the jubril, delivered unto mohammed and compiled by uthman but uthman burnt off the available manuscripts and then no other manuscripts to compare unlike the bible. and moreover muslims claim the original of quran is in heaven on a tablet sura 1:5 said "you alone we worship and you alone we adore" I guess allah was not the one speaking here and moreso allah wrote life history of mohammed and other people in heaven but they came and lived it out right ![]() ![]() |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by DonXavi(m): 10:11pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
Y |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by YakubuA: 10:50pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
IAmTobore: Actually get Aramaic bible not Hebrew. Hebrew is a modern language which is just a little over 1000 years old while Aramaic was the original language of Jesus. |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by YakubuA: 10:57pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
frosbel: Islam and Christianity were from the same source - God but the Quran is still intact in its original language (Arabic) while the Bible is not in its original language (Aramaic). The only way to know which translation is correct is to get the original manuscript, if they are available and there is someone who understand the language (Aramaic is dead language i.e not spoken by anyone anymore), to cross check. May God guide us all. Amen |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by Cityguy: 11:18pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
doofanc:You are right. No need to even panic. The very few we know or that they all have in common, how much of those truths have we put into practice before delving into nuances? Even as it is, it's incomparable in truth to any other scripture that man's ever seen. |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by YakubuA: 11:18pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
MEILYN: Ibrahim (Abraham) was the father of both Ismail and Isaac. All the three were prophets. Muhammad was a descendant of Ismail. Quran Chapter of Mary 19:54. And mention in the Book (the Qur'an) Isma'il (Ishmael). Verily! He was true to what he promised, and he was a Messenger, (and) a Prophet. 19:55. And he used to enjoin on his family and his people As-Salat (the prayers) and the Zakat (alms), and his Lord was pleased with him. I hope this answer your question above. I suggest you try to read the whole Quran instead of picking one verse and jump to conclusion. May God guide us all. Amen |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by UIA04(f): 11:21pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
You people are just worried over nothing There is nothing wrong with the niv Bible in fact that has been my favourite Bible since when I was young it is easier to understand than the kjv All those so called omissions are contained in the Bible as footnotes and that is what happens when there are many handwritten copies of the original text to translate from and these copies are written in different languages. Words may be lost in translation and when it seems like some words are present in some and not present in some others it is better to write it out in the footnote to avoid misunderstanding Let us not give way to heresy but let the holyspirit guide you to search the STUDY the scriptures daily for it is inspired by God. |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by almujahidy: 11:32pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
folafola: Holy spirit that you have been waiting for over 2000 years ago, continue waiting till eternity and don't wake up from your slumber now before its too late. Falsehood will always be exposed, no matter how long it's been concealed and the truth will be known. There are thousands of falsehoods in the Bible, what u have just seen is a tip of the iceberg. Prophet Muhammad is the seal of all other Prophets and he is the Comforter who Jesus mentioned, the people translated the original Bible which is in Hebrew language have successfully deceived you by denying Prophet Muhammad as the Comforter. Check that verse of the Bible very well. The undiluted verse is also in the Qur'aan. |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by holiboy: 11:37pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
I can't dispute the fact but for you to a solid bases for your view please check parallel bible. Almost all the new translated version does not tall with KJV e.g EXOS 6 v 3 jeovah is omitted |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by buggaboo: 11:47pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
Confirmer: The Quran has 114 chapters while one of the books in the Bible, The Psalms, has 150 chapters. The Bible has 66 books. This means that the entire Quran is just like a book in the Bible. Why then are you using the ease of memorising the entire Quran as a yardstick for authenticity? Also what is the difference between Mohammed and say prophet Isaiah who received instructions from God and wrote them down in his book of Isaiah. |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by folafola(m): 11:52pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
almujahidy: Another lie of Islam read Act 2 you will see how holy spirit descended on the disciples and please is mohammed in the disciples ![]() |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by IAmTobore(m): 12:25am On Jul 13, 2015 |
YakubuA:Thanks 4 the enlightenment bro! |
Re: Is The NIV Version Of The Holy Bible Anti-Christ? by lilwill(m): 12:53am On Jul 13, 2015 |
[quote author=keyzid post=35747552][/quote]
which Bible did Jesus bring... Talk about ignorance... |
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