Freemanan:

OLAADEGBU:


Have you got any objections

onetrack:


If they can find a cure for HIV, then what would be the danger to society?

Freemanan:


FEW... But nevermind

finofaya:


Some male homosexuals don't do a.nal.

finofaya:


Some homosexuals are not male.

finofaya:


Some heterosexuals do a.nal.

finofaya:


STD's are transmitted through all forms of sex.

finofaya:


The OP is simplistic and wrong.

OLAADEGBU:
You mean some are not active?

The statistics specifically refer to MSM (Men having sex with men).

Which makes them equally dangerous to our society.

The OP specifically refers to HIV.

No. You need to read the OP again, it narrows the danger to society down to young male homosexuals.

finofaya:


No. I mean there are active gay men who share your revulsion to a.nal. They get off on oral and mutual mas.turbation.



Exactly. And yet the article as a whole does not limit itself to MSM.



I got the impression that you were picking on homosexuals, instead of a.nal sex.



HIV is an STD. HIV is transmitted through all forms of sex.



We combat HIV through the use of the ABC's, not by labelling people as dangerous to society.

OLAADEGBU:


The question of the OP is simple; Is homosexuality dangerous or beneficial to the society?

finofaya:


Your culprit is reckless sexual behaviour.

Sarassin:


I would say they are no more dangerous or beneficial to society than Christian Fundamentalists who through the ages have directly caused the deaths of millions of humans be it through the Inquisition, the Crusades or as you currently seek to do, discriminate against a significant number of the most vulnerable members of society on the basis of their sexuality, religious affiliation or even the color of their skin? Don’t you agree ?

finofaya:


No. I mean there are active gay men who share your revulsion to a.nal. They get off on oral and mutual mas.turbation.

finofaya:


Exactly. And yet the article as a whole does not limit itself to MSM.

finofaya:


I got the impression that you were picking on homosexuals, instead of a.nal sex.

finofaya:


HIV is an STD. HIV is transmitted through all forms of sex.

finofaya:


We combat HIV through the use of the ABC's, not by labelling people as dangerous to society.

OLAADEGBU:


This is about statistics and not emotional duct tales. We know that liberals like you are the 'AIDS' that prevents us from getting rid of the cancer in our society.

Sarassin:


There is no difference between your brand of fanaticism and Islamic fundamentalism, just different sides of the same coin.

Sarassin:


For once though, I do agree with you, it is about statistics, so let us look at this statistically, what figures would you give of those who have been unwittingly infected by the HIV virus and died since its inception. And what figures would you give of those who were killed by fundamentalist Christian rabble rousers in the name of the inquisition by the conquistadors during the crusades, whilst you are at it, add to that those who were killed by bible thumping Fundamentalists in your neck of the woods hiding behind bedsheets and pointy hats who murdered people of colour in the name of their god and a burning cross.

Sarassin:


Let us have a breakdown of which segment of society constituted the greater danger and menace, I would say you religious whack jobs are a greater menace to society, statistically speaking of course!

OLAADEGBU:


There's no doubt about the fact that homosexuals are the main culprit of reckless sexual behaviour. The fact that 2% of U.S. population is gay and yet it accounts for 61% of HIV infection should tell you who the main culprits are.

OLAADEGBU:
This is news to me.

The statistics focussed on whether homosexuals are dangerous or beneficial to the society.

This is true as I learnt that our local governments in the UK are now advising teenage girls indirectly to be having anal sex since other means of contraception have failed to stem the tide of unwanted pregnancies.

Statistics do not lie, it says that 2% of the American populace is gay and this accounts for 61% of HIV infection.

finofaya:
Go and tend to your er.ection, priapus. Don't concern yourself with what others do with theirs.

Sarassin:

@OP

If I were you, I would tone down the rhetoric, your ultra conservative stance makes a mockery of the fact that you, a middle-aged gentleman of colour living in suburbia are a net beneficiary of liberal thinkers, perhaps you are merely blind to the fact that your monotheistic cult is far more insidious, dangerous and has been more of a menace to society than any person of dubious sexuality.

Sarassin:


You practise a religion that preaches spiritual but not earthly equality, and the negroid must be the daftest man on the face of the planet to call himself a Christian, a religion that all but despises the very core of your being.

Sarassin:


What is your opinion on church sanctioned slavery, human trafficking, expansionism and colonialism all in the name of the one true jealous God? Let us not forget, Christianity has never repudiated slavery nor racism, these twin evils were brought to an end by liberal minds and bright thinkers, the church itself were slave masters, one of the first slaver ships that set sail from England was named "Jesus", St. Augustine termed slavery "the curse of Ham" and wrote that "slavery leads to social order". John Chrystosom advised "slaves should accept the reality of their condition as against the uncertainties of freedom" (the cheek of the man).

Sarassin:


Pope Gregory, no less visited the slave market in Rome to run the rule over choice slaves. In France, slavery was considered harmonious with the laws of God, to speak out against slavery was to speak out against the "Holy Ghost", afterall the Apostle Paul instructed that slaves should accept their status. Monasteries were major slave dealers. The church decreed that slavery was in accordance with catholic theology. Many churches made so much money baptising slaves that when slavery was finally abolished many of them hit financial crisis point.

Sarassin:


Without a doubt, your monotheistic cult has been directly responsible for a lot of the ills it claims to stand against, it has been the foremost against any progressive social policies conceived for the progress of man and concerned only with the propagating of its feeble myths and collective self-aggrandizement at any costs.

Sarassin:


Were it not for liberal thinkers who gave up limb, liberty and life in pursuit of a greater freedom, you would likely be spouting your ill-digested fundamentalist dogma in the comfort of velvet ankle, wrist and collar chains, consider that the next time you feel like demonising people on the basis of their sexuality, religious belief or social order.

priapus:


Romans1vs21-28
21] Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

[22] Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

[23] And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

[24] Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

[25] Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

[26] For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

[27] And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

[28] And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
The above scripture carefully point out the fact that homosexuality is bad, and it happens to people or society whom God has given up to a reprobate mind. When judgement is pending in a nation or society, they begin to do things that will foster judgement. And from my understanding of spiritual matters, earthquakes, poverty, wars, diseases, strife, tsunamis, economic turmoils and alot of disasters are sign of judgement from the almighty God. For God rules in the affairs of men and gives the kingdom to whomsoever he pleases.
Debating whether homosexuality is good/bad is totally out of the concept. Just read ur Bible and get understanding from God. God bless u all.

finofaya:


They should shun casual sex and use protection more, shouldn't they?

finofaya:


Lol. It is counterintuitive.

finofaya:


The problem is not the person, but how he chooses to have sex.

finofaya:


The statistics don't focus on danger or benefit. It is the article that does that.

finofaya:


I don't quite get you.

finofaya:


The figure for 2013 is 55%. Maybe this year's figure will be even lower. Anyway, the solution does not lie in the direction your article has taken.

johnydon22:


The guy has no argument here, he was severely battered and his argument rubbished..

Look up the thread, he couldn't even make one single constructive statement, just spew childish trash and post a meme. . Imagine such childishness, i am ashamed of such nonsense. .

He should go find another Copy and paste thread to open and leave other people to what they do with their joystick

OLAADEGBU:


That should rather abstain from having sex altogether until their Owner fixes them.

finofaya:


The problem is HIV. That's what the Owner should fix.

OLAADEGBU:
I think it is the onset to the full blown act.

I believe that homosexuals are victims of circumstances and the evil world we live in.

I agree with you there.

Statistics revealed that the U.K. has the highest rate of teenage unwanted pregnancies and the Government, through "Sex education" teaches that anal sex is the best alternative to contraception.

Jesus is the solution not the political correct sex education.