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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ElFenomeno1: 3:35pm On Jul 13, 2015
Coogar

There is no way here I have said Matic is world class....
If you thin Schneiderlin is world class then I am sorry, you are a jokebag!
But then maybe it depends on what your criteria is grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 3:42pm On Jul 13, 2015
ElFenomeno1:
Coogar

There is no way here I have said Matic is world class....
If you thin Schneiderlin is world class then I am sorry, you are a jokebag!
But then maybe it depends on what your criteria is grin

world class is a subjective term.
what you consider world class might be village class to another so i ain't even goin to argue with that ish.

all i am just proving is - schneiderlin is better than matic 5 times over. he's not the only one better than matic, coquelin is also better than matic. before daley blind went to the LB position, his statistics were better than matic.

don't get fooled by the fact that chelsea won the league & that makes every one of their players world class. matic is good but abeg he couldn't have achieved what schneiderlin copped at the saints. their defence last season was world class & schneiderlin was the catalyst!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adebayo201: 3:43pm On Jul 13, 2015
Chai... see as this thread dey fly on top signing

O ga o
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 3:47pm On Jul 13, 2015
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and even with lesser number of games, Schneiderlin whoops Matic's azz. undecided grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:48pm On Jul 13, 2015
sinizia:


You still didn't answer my question though. So Rooney's jealousy was towards Kagawa and not VP who stole his shine? Or you mean Kagawa was the favorite player in SAF's last season for Man Utd?

Forget that question is first. I have proven that number 10 is upfront.

Rooney didnt want to play in the wing with some defensive duties while Kagawa plays where he has played generally for United. That was what happened in Madrid.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 3:52pm On Jul 13, 2015
leggo:
why do I keep getting logged out of my account?
same here
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ElFenomeno1: 3:54pm On Jul 13, 2015
coogar:


world class is a subjective term.
what you consider world class might be village class to another so i ain't even goin to argue with that ish.

all i am just proving is - schneiderlin is better than matic 5 times over. he's not the only one better than matic, coquelin is also better than matic. before daley blind went to the LB position, his statistics were better than matic.

don't get fooled by the fact that chelsea won the league & that makes every one of their players world class. matic is good but abeg he couldn't have achieved what schneiderlin copped at the saints. their defence last season was world class & schneiderlin was the catalyst!

Ok I agree on the subjective bit.
Whoever comes here and tell me Matic is world class, I will take that person down like a tower of jelly!
And Schneiderlin is not world class so scummies, cool your socks!
Chelsea didn't particularly stroll the league anyway ..... Arsenal and City gave it up like floozies!!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:55pm On Jul 13, 2015
coogar:


where's raumdeuter & other bayern fans? they should be ashamed schweinsteiger chose to play for man utd over that their yeye club. bastian was offered a contract, he turned it down and chose us instead!D

You dont want me to rain on your parade here regarding Schweinisteiger

Just enjoy. Remember the last player Bayern sold to you
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 3:55pm On Jul 13, 2015
leggo:

was he world class before joining Chelsea, or did playing for Chelsea automatically make him world class ??
Good question
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 3:56pm On Jul 13, 2015
leggo:

was he world class before joining Chelsea, or did playing for Chelsea automatically make him world class ??

I'm not sure where you're going with this.
Remember, you were the one who was arguing that any new signing had to be statistically better than what was on ground.

What are your views on Darmian v Valencia?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:58pm On Jul 13, 2015
raumdeuter:


You dont want me to rain on your parade here regarding Schweinisteiger

Just enjoy. Remember the last player Bayern sold to you
He played less games because of injury.
What next?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 4:00pm On Jul 13, 2015
elampiro:


Forget that question is first. I have proven that number 10 is upfront.

Rooney didnt want to play in the wing with some defensive duties while Kagawa plays where he has played generally for United. That was what happened in Madrid.

but you know before the madrid saga, Rooney had been sad that VP was stealing his shine? one match is not enough for Rooney to start acting selfish.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 4:00pm On Jul 13, 2015
sinizia:
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and even with lesser number of games, Schneiderlin whoops Matic's azz. undecided grin grin grin

It's actually because of the fewer games that Schneirderlin's Stats look better.

And your stats don't actually take that into account.

1/2 is always going to be bigger than 1/5
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:02pm On Jul 13, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
I'm not here to debate the Rooney BS again. The 4-4-1-1 is understandable but how anyone thinks 4-2-3-1 is a 4-4-2 variant is ridiculous

I didnt mention Rooney in that response.

If you have agreed 4-4-1-1 is not much different from 4-4-2, then you are already agreeing with me.
..........

4–4–1–1
A variation of 4–4–2 with one of the strikers
playing "in the hole", or as a "second striker",
slightly behind their partner. [13] The second
striker is generally a more creative player, the
playmaker, who can drop into midfield to pick
up the ball before running with it or passing to
team-mates. [13] Interpretations of 4–4–1–1
can be slightly muddled, as some might say
that the extent to which a forward has
dropped off and separated himself from the
other can be debated. The system was most
prominently used during the 2009–10 season
by Fulham F.C , with midfielder Zoltan Gera
playing behind forward Bobby Zamora as they
upset many teams across Europe on their way
to the 2010 UEFA Europa League Fina


.........

4–2–3–1
This formation is widely used by Spanish,
French and German sides. While it seems
defensive to the eye, it is quite a flexible
formation, as both the wide players and the
full-backs join the attack. In defense, this
formation is similar to either the 4–5–1 or 4–
4–1–1. It is used to maintain possession of
the ball and stopping opponent attacks by
controlling the midfield area of the field. The
lone striker may be very tall and strong to hold
the ball up as his midfielders and full-backs
join him in attack. The striker could also be
very fast. In these cases, the opponent's
defense will be forced to fall back early,
thereby leaving space for the offensive central
midfielder. This formation is used especially
when a playmaker is to be highlighted. The
variations of personnel used on the flanks in
this set-up include using traditional wingers,
using inverted wingers or simply using wide
midfielders
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:03pm On Jul 13, 2015
sinizia:


but you know before the madrid saga, Rooney had been sad that VP was stealing his shine? one match is not enough for Rooney to start acting selfish.

Quote when Rooney said he was sad with Van Persie.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by leggo: 4:05pm On Jul 13, 2015
Nihilist:


I'm not sure where you're going with this.
Remember, you were the one who was arguing that any new signing had to be statistically better than what was on ground.

What are your views on Darmian v Valencia?
I said so? yet I wanted alves who who was statistically inferior to Valencia as his replacement? I didn't want clyne simple as ABC..
and what has that got to do with the Schneiderlin/matic convo? Was matic a world class player before joining Chelsea or did a single season at Chelsea automatically make him world class?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 4:08pm On Jul 13, 2015
elampiro:


Quote when Rooney said he was sad with Van Persie.

he doesn't have to say he's sad na, his actions and inactions proved so. haba Elamps. if Rooney was happy, would he have submitted a transfer request?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 4:10pm On Jul 13, 2015
leggo:

I said so? yet I wanted alves who who was statistically inferior to Valencia as his replacement? I didn't want clyne simple as ABC..
and what has that got to do with the Schneiderlin/matic convo? Was matic a world class player before joining Chelsea or did a single season at Chelsea automatically make him world class?

You didn't know that Alves was stastically inferior. When I compared Val to all the other FB's and showed that he bested them all by your standards, your response was 'That's why I wanted Alves'

It was when we applied the Valencia test to Alves, and saw that he too had failed it.

Anyway, World Class as an appellation is form related, and Yes Matic became world class at Chelsea.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 4:12pm On Jul 13, 2015
Nihilist:


It's actually because of the fewer games that Schneirderlin's Stats look better.

And your stats don't actually take that into account.

1/2 is always going to be bigger than 1/5

it's not my stat, Coog uploaded it. and i don't agree with you. with more game time, Matic had more opportunities have a better stat or make more contributions than Schinerdlin.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 4:14pm On Jul 13, 2015
raumdeuter:


You dont want me to rain on your parade here regarding Schweinisteiger

Just enjoy. Remember the last player Bayern sold to you
Helped us in clinching the UCL and the league title.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 4:15pm On Jul 13, 2015
sinizia:


it's not my stat, Coog uploaded it. and i don't agree with you. with more game time, Matic had more opportunities have a better stat or make more contributions than Schinerdlin.

I don't think you understand how averages work.

The more appearances you make, the lower your averages get.

Hence 1/2 bigger than 1/5
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:16pm On Jul 13, 2015
sinizia:


he doesn't have to say he's sad na, his actions and inactions proved so. haba Elamps. if Rooney was happy, would he have submitted a transfer request?

He was unhappy about the number 10 not number 9.

He gladly played the number 10 for Moyes when Moyes took over. Dont tell me about contact renewal because Rooney played 10 for Moyes in 2013 before his contract was renewed in 2014.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Tval(m): 4:17pm On Jul 13, 2015
Man I still can't believe today. What a transfer deadline day this is turning out to be.

Abeg if these are "panic buys", more of the same please. cheesy (

coogar:


this is what our haters are going through now....


PietroRico:
Lol.
Bitterness, when bottled up could be lethal.
It could make one run mad grin

So feel free to express your bitterness while u can smiley
May no too far again smiley.

The only person that made sense

montelik:
So we chased the relatively young and cost effective strikers we had for the super expensive trio of a 31 year old with a long history and present day fitness issues (RVP), a soon to be 29 year old who plays like he is already in his 30s (Rooney) and a 28 year old who just recovered from a serious knee injury (Falcao).

Wilson, Henriquez e.t.c better be the real deals else we be force to spend big on strikers again soon.

LVG talks about inheriting an unbalanced squad, but besides Rojo and Blind, his other signings aren't exactly correcting the supposed imbalance.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:19pm On Jul 13, 2015
coogar:


upfront is not number-10, oga!
rooney wanted the number-9 position. he wanted to score more goals thus using the phrase "i had to be selfish". how can he be selfish in the hole when players in the hole are basically used as providers?

stop trolling, abeg....


Look at United official website described the number 10 as upfront in a 3-4-1-2 formation.
..........



Van Gaal tried some of his squad members in
new positions on the pre-season tour of the
United States. Ashley Young was deployed as
a wing-back, Wilfried Zaha played up front
and Kagawa adopted a holding midfield role.
"It has been seven or eight years since I
played as a defensive midfielder, but the
important thing is I do my best in whatever
position I am asked to play in," Kagawa said.
"I have to achieve results wherever I play.

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2014/Aug/shinji-kagawa-and-manchester-united-will-use-last-season-as-trigger.aspx
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 4:20pm On Jul 13, 2015
Nihilist:
Anyway, World Class as an appellation is form related, and Yes Matic became world class at Chelsea.
grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Tval(m): 4:21pm On Jul 13, 2015
SetrakusRa:
grin grin grin some people can't just conceal how pained and bitter they're..

Haters hate. Potatoes potate tongue

igbsam:
Walahi, these haters have been chewing hate panadol since the 1305. Looking at them perching their tent on a man u thread. They have absconded from their own thread cos it reeks of failure. They want to make their voice heard here. Who doesn't want to be known with a more successful club in the history of english football even the germans know it. Either hate or like, they just want to say something here.

I dare them not to keep commenting here and watch ebola hit them from the next person sitting close to them. Carry man u matter for head like Edward.

And i said this

I like the comments of Man utd fans so far, they will be good for future references.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 4:24pm On Jul 13, 2015
who de hell said Jan Oblak is athletico's 2nd goalkeeper? undecided
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by leggo: 4:24pm On Jul 13, 2015
Nihilist:


You didn't know that Alves was stastically inferior. When I compared Val to all the other FB's and showed that he bested them all by your standards, your response was 'That's why I wanted Alves'

It was when we applied the Valencia test to Alves, and saw that he too had failed it.

Anyway, World Class as an appellation is form related, and Yes Matic became world class at Chelsea.
are you typing this with a PokerFace? "lol.. Ivanovich as the best rb in the league last season, statement of
fact or opinion the only fullback linked to UTD this season I wanted
was Alves" - this was my response word for word and my very next post was that he was a free agent...small small o
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ZUBY77(m): 4:25pm On Jul 13, 2015
Too many Chelsea fans spotted here. What's going on?

Ed Woodward should watch his back to avoid being attacked.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:28pm On Jul 13, 2015
coogar:


world class is a subjective term.
what you consider world class might be village class to another so i ain't even goin to argue with that ish.

all i am just proving is - schneiderlin is better than matic 5 times over. he's not the only one better than matic, coquelin is also better than matic. before daley blind went to the LB position, his statistics were better than matic.

don't get fooled by the fact that chelsea won the league & that makes every one of their players world class. matic is good but abeg he couldn't have achieved what schneiderlin copped at the saints. their defence last season was world class & schneiderlin was the catalyst!
Southampton conceeded the least number of goals in d league last season. And Schneiderlin was an integral part of that feat. That's some impressive somtin. Which is why of all our signings, its Schneiderlin dat makes me d most happy. Dude is a very solid and composed DM. Plus he's Young. Plenty of time to be even better than Carrick
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 4:29pm On Jul 13, 2015
Nihilist:


It's actually because of the fewer games that Schneirderlin's Stats look better.

And your stats don't actually take that into account.

1/2 is always going to be bigger than 1/5

what has fewer games gotta do with per 90 metrics? do you understand statistics at all or do we have to keep spoonfeeding you?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 4:33pm On Jul 13, 2015
coogar:


what has fewer games gotta do with per 90 metrics? do you understand statistics at all or do we have to keep spoonfeeding you?


You are trying to judge who is better by stats(which is silly anyway)

You compare Rafael per 90( 5 games) to Valencia (20 games)

Can you not see the obvious flaw in that? Or do I have to spoon feed you?

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