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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 7:11pm On Jul 13, 2015
codedguy1:


I expect us to win. 2nd would not be bad too, but I really expect us to win. If we end up buying 6players, I don't expect all will be played at the same time in a lot of matches, even if they all play together in some games.

The likes of Mata, Rooney, Di Maria, Carrick, Blind, Young, Fellaini, Herrera, Valencia, Rojo, Smalling, Jones etc should know that they wear a Man United shirt and winning is a culture. Adding 2new signings in the mix for a game should not be an excuse. The winning mentality needs to be really emphasized to increase motivation.

There are enuff games to go around to satisfy players and we are back in the CL.

Injury is my only fear.

a competent goalscorer is my only fear. it's highly impossible for all our central midfielders to get crocked around the same time.

if we don't address the striker situation, we sill not win a spoon. we need a top tier striker & rooney cannot give us that quality any more. this is not 2010.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 7:17pm On Jul 13, 2015
codedguy1:


I expect us to win. 2nd would not be bad too, but I really expect us to win. If we end up buying 6players, I don't expect all will be played at the same time in a lot of matches, even if they all play together in some games.

The likes of Mata, Rooney, Di Maria, Carrick, Blind, Young, Fellaini, Herrera, Valencia, Rojo, Smalling, Jones etc should know that they wear a Man United shirt and winning is a culture. Adding 2new signings in the mix for a game should not be an excuse. The winning mentality needs to be really emphasized to increase motivation.

There are enuff games to go around to satisfy players and we are back in the CL.

Injury is my only fear.
Let see the moves city makes,
If they successfully off load dead weights like Nasri and Co.
And God forbid,they grab Pogba,KDB and players of similar class like those two.that na very stron squad,
But I highly doubt this is possible.
Let's just hope this Remy's loan to turkey is true grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:19pm On Jul 13, 2015
coogar:


everything about him is class!
he even speaks english language better than rooney. he said he's here for the supporters & not so much about LVG. he also said this is his first time of travelling to america. grin

raumdeuter, are you missing him yet?
you can see as your boy is wowing over joining man utd. the history, the club, the prestige in the brand & the fans. what else do you need to see that the united brand is massive?

WHen he sees the amount fellow crocks like Di Maria and falcao are making he wont want to miss out of the bonanza

I wish Schweinsteiger well in his career. until he plays against Bayern. AFter retirement, He would get his place at the Bayern Front Office

he is a good ambassador. He has a personal ambition to play for Man Utd and become more popular than he is. Man Utd offers him that given the larger English audience

If he can stay fit, He would deliver

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:20pm On Jul 13, 2015
tess1:


I Thought you were saying he was given some defensive duties to do.

If you are claiming Rooney was referring to number 10 as his upfront. Can you tell us how many games Rooney started in that season and how many of those games was he played away from the number 10? Let us know how many games he played in each of other positions he was played.

By my own reckoning, SAF played mostly 4 2 3 1 with Rooney playing mostly in the middle of the 3 which you refer to as number 10. How many times was he played away from that position for him to be complaining to the extent that he said he wanted to leave?

Rooney was given defensive duty in Madrid. You seem to be the only one who didnt know this. He was asked to assist Rafael on the right back from his wing position. Kagawa played Rooney's position in Madrid. This was why Rooney was unhappy. But SAF felt he should have understood the tactics and plan. Unfortunately, it got to a time Rooney didnt want to understand.

After the Madrid game, SAF said Rooney's preferred position is number 10, but he might have to rotate him and Kagawa there. SAF subsequently played in Rooney in centre midfield against Stoke, West Ham and Aston Villa.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 7:22pm On Jul 13, 2015
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 7:24pm On Jul 13, 2015
coogar:


a competent goalscorer is my only fear. it's highly impossible for all our central midfielders to get crocked around the same time.

if we don't address the striker situation, we sill not win a spoon. we need a top tier striker & rooney cannot give us that quality any more. this is not 2010.

Man United needs to get a true striker to bench Rooney. A guy who can finish off the good works of the midfielders; just like Neymar is doing for Barcelona.

Man United is the torch bearer of epl clubs in UCL. You need to return to your elite position in Europe as a true member of the big 4 in European football.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 7:24pm On Jul 13, 2015
raumdeuter:

WHen he sees the amount fellow crocks like Di Maria and falcao are making he wont want to miss out of the bonanza

fernebache will pay RVP £240k per week. a turkish club for that matter. it's not only in england you can do pension runs. schweini coulda gotten a bumper pay anywhere on the planet. he's the captain of the german national team(world champions). what CV can be better than that?


I wish Schweinsteiger well in his career. until he plays against Bayern
If he can stay fit, He would deliver

he's in good hands.
schneiderlin is the water-carrier. he will die on the pitch to protect our defence. bastian's job is just to sweep up the mess with his tidy passes and football brain.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 7:25pm On Jul 13, 2015
Do the haters know we have never had a German in our first team and the first one we get is the German captain?? Do they know what this means about our fan base in Germany... one of the three biggest nations in European football?? Do they know what this does to our shirt sales all over the world? Do they also know how many top companies in Germany suddenly become interested in Manchester United now that their National team leader plays for Manchester United and could invest in us bringing in more cash while Chelsea and Man City keep lobbying and bribing UEFA? Do they know what mass appeal this gives to top talents coming to England preferring Manchester United over their teams..... A team that boasted the English and Dutch captain last season now boasts the English and German captain. If you say i am having an orgasm over what's to come this season and the rest to come... ill tell you i just finished the fifth round, going on six.

Haters please continue beefing... We are the biggest in England, if not the world and we will keep getting bigger at this rate. An era of winning titles even with mediocre players are over. One of the reasons we don't have so many champions league titles is cause of these small minded players but still we somehow did it with these guys. This new era we have entered is the era to emulate the modern day Madrid and Barca teams and surpass their success. We will buy world class players 20 years, 30 years, 40 even 50 if possible and if they give us the doubles, trebles and quadruples... i won't give 2 fvcks about the rest of yall.


The three biggest teams in the world are Barcelona, Real Madrid and Manchester United. Those two have won the champions league one after the other in the last two seasons......I don't need a soothsayer to tell me what next.

Mrlouisvangaal, serial winner Ajax, Az, Barcelona and Bayern Munich says so.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 7:28pm On Jul 13, 2015
Debroslink:


Man United needs to get a true striker to bench Rooney. A guy who can finish off the good works of the midfielders; just like Neymar is doing for Barcelona.

Man United is the torch bearer of epl clubs in UCL. You need to return to your elite position in Europe as a true member of the big 4 in European football.


sell us neymar grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:36pm On Jul 13, 2015
elampiro:


He was unhappy about the number 10 not number 9.

He gladly played the number 10 for Moyes when Moyes took over. Dont tell me about contact renewal because Rooney played 10 for Moyes in 2013 before his contract was renewed in 2014.


list out the matches Rooney played another position apart from 10. It's time to end this argument.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 7:40pm On Jul 13, 2015
sinizia:



list out the matches Rooney played another position apart from 10. It's time to end this argument.

make una forget this argument now....
dedicate the time you have to scout a striker for LVG to sign. we need a striker to finish off the creativity our new midfield would bring.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:45pm On Jul 13, 2015
parrotibaba:
I don't get d fear d incoming United's signings r causing A$$nal n Chelsea fans. WTF? ,n some f00l is comparing our signings to dat of Tottenham ,r we on d same level? Liverpool also spent millions dis transfer window n yet nobody is raving about it. let me leave dat matter for now...



I read a post here calling d Schweinsteiger's deal a bust ,dat we spent a lot to get him, really? Maybe we ought to hv arranged for his kidnap den. He was offered a new contract but he chose united n now sm ppl are r wishing for his injuries to continue plaguing n at d same time calling him "unwanted" n "old" ,talk about talking out of ur a$$. And one Chelsea f00l was dumb enough to call darmian unproven despite him making it to d world cup n rounding it up with a wonderful season at Torino ,how much more proven can one be?. Also reading some a$$nal fans degrading Schneiderlin n some even see him below d likes of Matic n Coquelin but yet AsSnsal tried to sign him for two seasons now ,hell de even thought he would move to dia club when we signed Schweinsteiger n now he's sh1t because he chose us instead of dem.

I just don't get it ,had we signed Khedira ,dis same set of shiitheads will tell us dat he is injury prone n a bench warmer at Madrid oh n a second tier midfielder ,had we signed Luca modric ,de will tell us dat his lengthy injury period will be a deterrent to our success or if we succeed in getting Ramos ,de will still tell us dat he's old n cranky n dat he's past his best. My opinion ,if u hv nothing to say den SHUT THE HELL UP!!!

that's the hypocrisy in these shameless and worthless assanal fans that we do ra*pe season after season. they couldn't afford Schneiderlin cos they're too broke, but now Man Utd buys him, he's a shitty player. says so much about their useless team that couldn't afford the so-called shitty player. don't mind the bunch of retardedd azzwipes.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:52pm On Jul 13, 2015
coogar:


make una forget this argument now....
dedicate the time you have to scout a striker for LVG to sign. we need a striker to finish off the creativity our new midfield would bring.

grin grin grin grin

do you have LvG's PHONE NUMBER? there are star strikers around which man utd can afford, problem is LvG is reluctant to give Rooney a competent opposition.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:55pm On Jul 13, 2015
sinizia:



list out the matches Rooney played another position apart from 10. It's time to end this argument.

How many times will I list them?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:57pm On Jul 13, 2015
elampiro:


How many times will I list them?

that matter don end. let's move forward.

which of our signings are you more elated in?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:00pm On Jul 13, 2015
raumdeuter:


WHat makes you think Schweinsteiger would be any different?
Dayo ur better than this na.
schweiny is a gem and even you know it.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:06pm On Jul 13, 2015
sinizia:


that matter don end. let's move forward.

which of our signings are you more elated in?

All of them.

scheneidelin (pardon d spelling if wrong) . Might just be that we have another Hargreaves or something like that. We need some physical presence to blend our midfield.

Schweinsteiger = the image, his calibre, his experience.

Depay, free scoring winger. Dribbler.

Darmian, a natural right back.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 8:10pm On Jul 13, 2015
sinizia:


grin grin grin grin

do you have LvG's PHONE NUMBER? there are star strikers around which man utd can afford, problem is LvG is reluctant to give Rooney a competent opposition.

he will sign a striker - he hinted it that we are light in the striking department. i just hope he signs the right striker. cavani will draw us back & higuain is dirt-poor!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:28pm On Jul 13, 2015
sinizia:


grin grin grin grin

do you have LvG's PHONE NUMBER? there are star strikers around which man utd can afford, problem is LvG is reluctant to give Rooney a competent opposition.


i am here
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:33pm On Jul 13, 2015
So the rooney argument ends.... 10 pages of boring talk saved just like that...

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 8:37pm On Jul 13, 2015
elampiro:


You've not answered my question!

Rooney was given defensive duty in Madrid. You seem to be the only one who didnt know this. He was asked to assist Rafael on the right back from his wing position. Kagawa played Rooney's position in Madrid. This was why Rooney was unhappy. But SAF felt he should have understood the tactics and plan. Unfortunately, it got to a time Rooney didnt want to understand.

After the Madrid game, SAF said Rooney's preferred position is number 10, but he might have to rotate him and Kagawa there. SAF subsequently played in Rooney in centre midfield against Stoke, West Ham and Aston Villa.

Where did i argue with you that he wasn't given defensive duties to do against Madrid?

My argument with you was that Rooney was ready to go because he wasn't up top as the top striker, but you said it wasn't so that it was because of the Madrid match.

I didn't quite agree with you on that because Rooney simply stated that he wanted to leave because he wasn't played upfront which i believe was the top strike position. But you as usual said what Rooney meant by upfront was the no 10 position. You also said he was played at a couple of other positions in the team.

The fact is that Rooney started 22 games in the league that season (2012/13)

Facts also are that Rooney played between 19 and 20 games behind RVP as a lone striker or behind two strikers in 4 4 2 diamond formation or behind Chicha/Welbz. Facts are that Rooney played mostly behind any striker we used in that season.

How then will Rooney who played mostly behind the striker be referring to the same position he was complaining of as upfront?

What i want from you.

If you are still saying that Rooney meant no 10 as his upfront, then let us know how many games Rooney played in other positions different from the no 10 position.

Also let us know those matches he played in those different matches.

Let's see if those matches will be sufficient enough for you to be referred to as the position he was talking about.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 9:31pm On Jul 13, 2015
coogar:


he will sign a striker - he hinted it that we are light in the striking department. i just hope he signs the right striker. cavani will draw us back & higuain is dirt-poor!

The press interview i watched that had LvG and Depay in it sounded like Gaal won't be buying a striker. He was talking about deploying Depay as a striker or something like that. I hope he's kidding anyway.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 9:32pm On Jul 13, 2015
elampiro:


All of them.

scheneidelin (pardon d spelling if wrong) . Might just be that we have another Hargreaves or something like that. We need some physical presence to blend our midfield.

Schweinsteiger = the image, his calibre, his experience.

Depay, free scoring winger. Dribbler.

Darmian, a natural right back.

You just made me remember Hargreaves. If not for injury, he'd have been a great player for Man Utd.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 9:54pm On Jul 13, 2015
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 9:56pm On Jul 13, 2015
coogar:


a competent goalscorer is my only fear. it's highly impossible for all our central midfielders to get crocked around the same time

Guy, I remember the season we had almost all our defenders out. Let's hope thunder doesn't strike twice in the same team.


coogar:

he will sign a striker - he hinted it that we are light in the striking department. i just hope he signs the right striker. cavani will draw us back & higuain is dirt-poor!

Please can u clarify this for me!

I believe depay plays on the left, di Maria and Young are players that naturally attack effectively from the left? Right?

That means the right wing will be left for Mata, Januzaj and Valencia since a certain Damian has been bought.

Does this not still make the team unbalanced since Mata is really not a rightwing player, Valencia is ... Well a one footed rightwinger and I believe a loan deal will suit januzaj just fine.

With the likes of Herrera, schneiderlein, schweinsteiger, Carrick, Blind and Fellaini struggling for a place in the middle, Matas case becomes even more complex. Na LVG headache be that sha.

My worry is, isn't the team still unbalanced. Except he still wants to play people in make shift positions or there would be a lot of unhappy players on the bench regardless of the number of games to be played.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:07pm On Jul 13, 2015
tess1:


Where did i argue with you that he wasn't given defensive duties to do against Madrid?

My argument with you was that Rooney was ready to go because he wasn't up top as the top striker, but you said it wasn't so that it was because of the Madrid match.

I didn't quite agree with you on that because Rooney simply stated that he wanted to leave because he wasn't played upfront which i believe was the top strike position. But you as usual said what Rooney meant by upfront was the no 10 position. You also said he was played at a couple of other positions in the team.

The fact is that Rooney started 22 games in the league that season (2012/13)

Facts also are that Rooney played between 19 and 20 games behind RVP as a lone striker or behind two strikers in 4 4 2 diamond formation or behind Chicha/Welbz. Facts are that Rooney played mostly behind any striker we used in that season.

How then will Rooney who played mostly behind the striker be referring to the same position he was complaining of as upfront?

What i want from you.

If you are still saying that Rooney meant no 10 as his upfront, then let us know how many games Rooney played in other positions different from the no 10 position.

Also let us know those matches he played in those different matches.

Let's see if those matches will be sufficient enough for you to be referred to as the position he was talking about.

You have refused to pay attention to details. I have said this over several months here. Rooney played out of position in quick succession from the Madrid game to the day we won the league against Villa. If the matches were spread across the season, he wouldn't have felt bad.

It happened from Madrid game and coincided with when SAF said he might have to rotate Kagawa and Rooney in number 10.

It happened that Rooney was playing some of his best football in the hole before Madrid game. Then SAF came under pressure when people said Kagawa was having a poor season due to his wing role.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Keky(m): 10:20pm On Jul 13, 2015
Hmm mm

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:23pm On Jul 13, 2015


Tess1

5th March Rooney was in the right wing against Madrid.

On 14th April he was in midfield against Stoke.

On 17th April he was in midfield against West Ham.

On 22nd April he was in midfield against Villa. The day we won the league.

Cant you see why he got angry? May be I have forgotten some sef.

Meanwhile I am sure SAF had not used him anywhere except in number 10 before Madrid match.



Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:25pm On Jul 13, 2015
elampiro:


You have refused to pay attention to details. I have said this over several months here. Rooney played out of position in quick succession from the Madrid game to the day we won the league against Villa. If the matches were spread across the season, he wouldn't have felt bad.

It happened after from Madrid game and coincided with when SAF said he might have to rotate Kagawa and Rooney in number 10.

It happened that Rooney was playing some of his best football in the hole before Madrid game. Then SAF came under pressure when people said Kagawa was having a poor season due to his wing role.

why do you do this all the time? colour the facts to suit your own argument. who told you rooney played out of position between madrid game(march 5, 2013) and the 3-0 win against villa(april 22, 2013) @OT!

•rooney was in the hole against reading(march 16, 2013) when we tonked them 1-0 at old trafford.

•rooney was in the hole against man city(april 8, 2013)when we lost 1-2 at OT.

•rooney was in the hole against west ham(april 17, 2013) when we drew 2-2 @upton park

so going by your logic, how can rooney not be satisfied when around 90% of his league games that season was in the hole?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:31pm On Jul 13, 2015
coogar:


why do you do this all the time? colour the facts to suit your own argument. who told you rooney played out of position between madrid game(march 5, 2013) and the 3-0 win against villa(april 22, 2013) @OT!

•rooney was in the hole against reading(march 16, 2013) when we tonked them 1-0 at old trafford.

•rooney was in the hole against man city(april 8, 2013)when we lost 1-2 at OT.

•rooney was in the hole against west ham(april 17, 2013) when we drew 2-2 @upton park

so going by your logic, how can rooney not be satisfied when around 90% of his league games that season was in the hole?

I disputing this. What I meant is that the games were too rapid. Came too quickly within a short time. I am sure he only played in the hole before that period.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:37pm On Jul 13, 2015
Coogar Rooney was in midfield against West Ham. Not in the hole.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:45pm On Jul 13, 2015
See Rooney 11 goals from 12 games from the hole before Madrid's game. People were singing his praise that period, then all of a sudden he had to be sacrificed again.

If na you e no go pain you?

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