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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:16pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: Citation needed for Northern Angola. Published sources say just Angola. Prove your claim with a source. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:32pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
. [size=13pt] South Africa admits Angola is her new master "Top South African military analyst Helmoed Heitman said the Sukhoi has longer legs than the Gripen and this, added to the planned Angolan over the horizon missile buy, makes it a more effective platform than the Gripen. In South Africa, shortages in the defence budget mean similar weapons systems for the Gripen are not forthcoming."[/size] http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=39861 . PHOTO : ANGOLA...NEW AIR POWER MASTER TERRORIZING SOUTH AFRICAN AIR FORCE !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:39pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
RE : http://www.africandefence.net/angolas-su-30ks-are-not-a-serious-threat-to-the-south-african-air-force/ Darren, I find your response to my reply, just similar in principle to your original essay, it's still all your personal speculative assumptions as I cannot find any reliable technical source to confirm almost everything you claim. 1. There is no proof that Angola has no money, oil and gas money, to buy a better radar, and there is no proof that the radar on the Su-30K is still the same radar after upgrade. There are many radar options for an Su-30 wih range from 100 km to 400 km. Can you please prove with a source beyond dispute, the exact radar model that Angola has after the upgrade ? 2. I have contrary reports from Czechs and Hungarian Gripen pilots who claimed to have severally shot down SAAF Gripens in Lion Effort, can you prove me wrong or prove yourself right with a valid source that can be presented in an international forum? 3. RCS numbers on internet for many jet fighters are mere speculations, you have any proof from SAAB for the Gripen? 4. A-Darter 19 km is a bad range for a missile when the Gripen is up against a super maneuverable deadly dog fighter Su-30 Flanker in close range combat where missile can hit target in 15 seconds. 5. Angolan Su-30 has combat range of about 3,000 km and South Africa is about 2,500 km away for a round trip, so how come you say 12 Su-30 jets cannot do much damage to South Africa when jets do random combat sorties? Basic maths and geography maps proves your claim to be very strange. 6. Switch off all the radar you want on the Gripen, and it will be easily detected by an Angolan Su-30, since when did radar waves start failing to detect jet fighters that are not stealth? I need proof that law of physics has now changed and a metal Gripen jet as big as a trailer/truck will not reflect radar waves. Enemy radar detects you because you have a metal piece of object in the air, not because you have your own radar on. 7. RCS could be small, but does not save you from radar detection, good jets will detect enemy aircraft and also detect it's missile after launch, the RCS of a tiny missile is being detected and you get a missile approach warning, then somebody wants to tell the world that a huge jet fighter will not be detected because it has some kind of RCS....when it is not stealth? Even a stealth jet with a little bomb bay opening to discharge ordnance will get detected by good radar, USAF F-117 Nighthawk stealth jet was detected by an old Serbian radar and shot down in Bosnia war. When one writes assumptions, he should let readers know he is speculating and writing personal opinions. http://www.africandefence.net/angolas-su-30ks-are-not-a-serious-threat-to-the-south-african-air-force/ . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:59pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
@mzilakazi, @rudsza, @jln115, @Mduza, HAVE YOU EATEN YOUR RAW SNAKE TODAY?? I could supply you though lets talk business... HOLD ON!! THE PASTOR IS NOT A NIGERIAN, tell me his nationality..
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MduZA: 5:15pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
ddami: lol |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:23pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
MduZA:does it really taste like chocolate..,,, don't lie that you have not eating ooo,,, Facebook has promoted YOUR church's ministry,, |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:24pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
agaugust: Augustus He very polity, but very firmly, annihilated you - point by point Its plain to see for all the members on this forum 4 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:24pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
agaugust: Ship was captured in Nigerian waters |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:26pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
agaugust: Ahh that magical cognitive dissonance You seem to be stubbornly ignoring the fact that the Angolans can reach one of your major cities and your major oilfeilds While if the Gripen is inferior... then what is the F7? It seems you are the servant of the masters servant |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:27pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
agaugust: Dis gon b gud Im getting my chair and pop-corn ready https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNXhpAx4aWI I also like it how you finally confirmed that this commentator who uses the same name as you is infact you 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:33pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
agaugust: Darren will really gonna have a tough time discussing military with a layperson. 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by RudzSA(m): 6:34pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
ddami:lol |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:36pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
agaugust:Northern Angola is closed to Nigeria. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:37pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
agaugust: If Angola gives you a fright, it does not necessarily mean it applies to us. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:38pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
agaugust:A Meteor BVRAAM buy changes everything. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:43pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
Patchesagain:He doesn't even know how 5th generation missiles operate. In fact he doesn't know how air to air missiles operate. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 7:56pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
mzilakazi: Another devaluation is on its way. Nigeria is a mess. http://af.reuters.com/article/nigeriaNews/idAFL5N0ZV2H220150715 The so-called billionaires are in reality, paupers. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:23pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
Avatar augustine > Sello Puo • 6 hours ago Sello Puo, I am Augustine, a military researcher based in North America, I work in defence industry, and in my office are veteran USAF and USMC fighter pilots whom I engage in discussions from live combat, not internet blogs and commentaries. I ask anyone who has basic university education and knows the difference between facts and assumption to please kindly tell us the source, verifiable and infallible technical source of the information about Gripen jets RCS at .0.1 or 0.5 Did you see what Darren wrote? He said and I quote "The Gripen C has a frontal ideal RCS of 0.1 m², going higher depending on angle, so let’s call it 0.5 m² to be fair and to account for marketing exaggerations". He has already said the RCS 0.1 is an assumption by some people likely exaggerated, so his own assumption is 0.5, now how do we prove who is right? What is the real figure is 0.9 ? I went to university and I am educated enough not to use assumptions as facts, they are speculations. If you write international standard project papers and you quote assumptions as facts, you lose your job or reputation.... or both. hahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah This is the funniest sh1t ive ever read!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.africandefence.net/angolas-su-30ks-are-not-a-serious-threat-to-the-south-african-air-force/ 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:44pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
jln115: Bwahahahaha Darren has demolished the argument you were posting here last month that Gripen RCS is 0.1 m2 and I told you it's not possible buy you kept arguing blindly with me. Now a military journalist has said it is an exaggeration for marketing purposes, he said it could be 0.5 m2 to be fair......LOL....Darren has proved me right and proved you wrong.....does it hurt you? Yes Eat the humble pie whitey 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:46pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: Angola too can buy K-77 BVRAAM and that is the best in the world 2015. Not only South Africa can buy new things, I have told you that many times dummy. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:48pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
mzilakazi: It's actually South African military experts that are trembling and crying on defenceweb because of Angola's new Su-30 jets . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:49pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: Southern Angola is closer to South Africa. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:49pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Ship was hijacked in Angolan waters |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:54pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
Patchesagain: The only members of this forum commenting are all South Africans whose national pride has been rubbished by Angola's superiority. Darren is a man with a big job but poorly informed, he said A-Darter range is at least 20 km, he said at least 20. The guy has no facts , he is posting speculations. I corrected him that it is actually 19 km and he has accepted my correction and eaten the humble pie . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jl115: 10:32pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
agaugust:What? he proved me 100% right fuckt@rd!! I said the Gripen has a Frontal RCS of 0.1m2, the 0.5m2 is an educated and conservative guess for what the RCS of the Gripen will be when viewed from an angle other than right in front!! The frontal RCS of 0.1m2 is a fact!! Go read the article again and you will understand! 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:05pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
jl115: Frontal, rear, side, angle....all Gripen RCS are private peoples speculations that a trained researcher will call ASSUMPTIONS. Assumption is NOT = Facts You talk like a school drop out who has never written academic projects before. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:07am On Jul 16, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: I like it how the emphasis in the article was on the adarters maneuverability And augubug keeps talking about range Its like, sh1t, its like watching a ret.ard try to fvck a door knob |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:10am On Jul 16, 2015 |
agaugust: Hagahahah The only one eating humble pie here is you Sh1t is hilarious |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:12am On Jul 16, 2015 |
agaugust: Let them buy it Meteor comes into service soon And meteor will be the best BVRM |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:13am On Jul 16, 2015 |
agaugust: And we have 25 gripen!! Imagine how your airforce feels with 10 ancient F-7s!! Angola can hit you too jackass |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:14am On Jul 16, 2015 |
agaugust: And sailed into your waters |
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