malvisguy212:
I read many post on nairaland, people disconnecting them self from there own brothers in Christ claiming they are not Christians or denying there denominations,they claim they know God but what they fail to understand is that this same God they know once come down to have a relationship with his children's. They disconnected them self with other, how will they have a relationship with one another?


Matthew 6
9 In this manner, therefore, pray:
Our Father in heaven,
Hallowed be Your name.
10 Your kingdom come.
Your will be done
On earth as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts,
As we forgive our debtors.
13 And do not lead us into temptation,
But deliver us from the evil one.
The first two words of this model prayer
tell us a great deal about relationships.
First, notice that Jesus starts out with the word our, not the word my. The reason is that God is not only the father of the person praying, but of others also. In this context, the our includes the “horizontal” relationship with other people who are children of God. Today, since we can “Get right with God. through Jesus,” the word our includes all Christians.

Second, the word Father implies a
“vertical” relationship with God. Note
that the relationship is not that of a wife
to a husband, two people dating one
another, or a neighbor to another
neighbor. It is a child to a father
relationship. Those people who do not
acknowledge God (such as an atheist,
agnostic, or someone following another
religion) do not have this relationship
and they certainly would not refer to God as Father. They might call him creator or god perhaps, but not Father.

OLAADEGBU:
If Jesus Is God, How Can He, As God, Die?

http://carm.org/how-jesus-god-die

MzNelly:
Jesus is not God. I thought this Trinity belief is archaic.

Misogynist2014:
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 1 JOHN 5:7

gatiano:
Jesus is GOD, I am GOD, You are GOD, Every Blackman and Blackwoman is GOD, GOD is GOD. GOD can expire, but HE has eternal life. All Black People in the universe when they are connected and united. Then that is called GOD in divine unity or GOD in cosmic unity and love, This GOD is ONE and he can never die, never, never, there was no beginning to him, there will never be an ending to HIM/HER. if you notice, in african languages, we do not use he/she as pronoun, we use "o" or "e". that is to show that there is no difference in Blackman and Blackwomen. Black people of nl, study the history and sciences of yourselves, find it, seek it even if needs you to go extra 1000 miles under the pacific ocean.
The whiteman and non-black are promised everlasting life if they repent. Black people? you have eternal life except you want or choose to mess up really really bad, which include bleaching of skin (yes, what i mean really is turning yourself to non-black by continous intermixing with whites.
thus black people, you can't really die what is called a second death (it is impossible). However as Jesus went to hell for 3 days, so will I , so will you, we can't escape it, for 3 days, for some it may seem like 3 secs, some 3 mins, some 3 days, some 3 years, depending on the gravity of your sins and crime.(there is no time in hell). For example, you are a blackman that just love adultery and fornication, no woman can pass you. now nobody has the time to be chasing you or looking for your name to put you in hell (condition), you yourself will choose it gladly since adultery and fornication is what you love. in the state, you can fool yourself, it will be like someone tearing you apart to remove that love of fornication and adultery. if you give it up quick, then 3 mins, if you are stubborn maybe 30 years, but not more than 3 days will a blackman give dirt and filth away.

This is pure african roots science, or blackroots science, i take no credit for this knowledge.

AmunRaOlodumare:


I think you've been too much brainwashed by the Europeans colonialists and their religions. Stockholm syndrome style. Like a slave dog barking defending the home of his masters.

Suffice to say we had our own religions much before Jesus was born and much before white people came with their guns and bible.

gatiano:
Jesus was black. all the holy prophets and messengers were all black. The body and the making of the caucasian body is too weak and wicked to contain such people. Prophets and messenger of GOD are not a robe walking men, They are well educated that involved or involves such high initiation that a person without the throne of GOD (melanin) won't make it. 42 years of studies. you didn't read what i wrote well.

OLAADEGBU:


If Jesus Is God, How Can He, As God, Die?

http://carm.org/how-jesus-god-die

If Jesus is God, how can He, as God, die?
by Matt Slick

Before we answer the question that if Jesus is God, how can He, as God, die, we need to explain Christian theology. When we say that Jesus is God, we are saying that Jesus is both human and divine; that is, He is both God and man. This is called the hypostatic union. It is the teaching that within the one person of Christ are two distinct natures: divine and human. We see evidence of this in such verses as the following:

• John 1:1, 14, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God . . . And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us . . . "

• John 20:28, "Thomas answered and said to Him, 'My Lord and my God!'"

• Col. 2:9, "For in Him all the fulness of Deity dwells in bodily form."

So when we say that Jesus is God, we are saying that within the one person who is Christ is the human nature and the divine nature. Therefore, we see that Jesus is God because He has both the nature of man and of God. But when Jesus died on the cross, it was not His divine nature as God that died. It was the human nature that died. Dying is a biological function that was reserved only for the human nature of Christ when He died on the cross.

We perceive the divine through the human

Also, we have to understand that we perceive the divine nature through the human nature. It is not as though we can see what color divinity is or how much it weighs. If it is like human nature, what is it? How do we discover it? Is it blue? Does it glow? How much does it weigh? The truth is that we can't see what human nature is any more than we can see what the divine nature is. However, we can see the attributes of humanity in biological structures. For example, we have two arms, two legs, a head, etc. But we also see other attributes of humanity such as decision-making, morality, the ability to love, worship, etc., and other attributes that are implicit with the human nature. So we see humanity in the expression of its attributes--both physical and "internal."

Likewise we can see the divine nature of Christ through His human nature. We see how the person of Jesus exercised divine attributes when He walked on water (Matt. 14:29), forgave sins (Luke 5:20), claimed to preexist with the Father (John 17:5), and said that He would be with the disciples always (Matthew 28:20), etc.

So, Jesus is both divine and human; that is, He is both God and man. When we say that Jesus is God and that Jesus died on the cross, we are not saying that the God-nature died. Rather, we are saying the person of Christ died and that the person of Christ had divine attributes.

http://carm.org/how-jesus-god-die

AdeniyiA:
Jehovah is God.
Jesus is God.
Adeniyi is a god.
"God" is like surname for all those associated with Jehovah God or His children.

Seun is Osewa,
Seyi(seun's son) is also Osewa.
Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

All children of God have "God" as their adoptive surname. Jesus calls Him "father"

CC MzNelly, OLAADEGBU , ichuka, malvisguy212

AdeniyiA:


Jehovah is God.
Jesus is God.
Adeniyi is a god.
"God" is like surname for all those associated with Jehovah God or His children.

Seun is Osewa,
Seyi(seun's son) is also Osewa.
Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

All children of God have "God" as their adoptive surname. Jesus calls Him "father"

CC MzNelly, OLAADEGBU , ichuka, malvisguy212

What does it mean to call Jesus the Son of God?

Does the title applied to Jesus, Son of God, imply that He is different than God? No. Jesus is the only begotten Son of God (John 3:16), while Christians are adopted sons of God (Romans 8:15-17).  Christians are called adopted sons of God because we are different from God and must become His children (hence, adopted, not begotten).  Jesus is not called adopted because He never became God's Son, but has always been God's Son.  Calling Jesus the only begotten Son of God means that He is of the same nature as God, not a different nature, as C.S. Lewis explains:

"To beget is to become the father of: to create is to make.  And the difference is this.  When you beget, you beget something of the same kind as yourself.  A man begets human babies, a beaver begets little beavers, But when you make, you make something of a different kind from yourself.  A bird makes a nest, a beaver builds a dam . . .  Now that is the first thing to get clear.  What God begets is God; just as what man begets is man.  What God creates is not God, just as what man makes is not man.  That is why men are not Sons of God in the sense that Christ is.  They may be like God in certain ways, but they are not things of the same kind."

There is a clear distinction between making and begetting, that is, you cannot make what you beget.  What you make is different from yourself, what you beget has your nature.  Therefore to call Jesus the only begotten Son is to say that He has God's nature and was not made.  Since He has God's nature, He is, by definition, God and therefore eternal.  If Jesus was created by God, He could not have been begotten, and John 3:16; 1:18, 1 John 4:9, etc. are in error.

Therefore, when the Bible says that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God, it means that Jesus is equal to God, not less than God. QED.

https://www.nairaland.com/531625/evidence-deity-christ/1

haffaze777:


hahahaha Christianity = confusionism,too much confusion

OLAADEGBU:


Confucius is long dead and buried but guess who's risen?

Rilwayne001:
Thats because he is not God.

haffaze777:


ok sort urself out with mznelly and ur fellow Christian first,before I can take u serious.d real meaning of Christianity is confusion

Rilwayne001:


Thats because he is not God.

Medicis:
He is God.

OLAADEGBU:

Jesus is God's "selfie".

OLAADEGBU:

Who is mznlly?

malvisguy212:
what was the reason the Jews wanted to stone Jesus?

John 10:30-33New International Version
(NIV)
30 I and the Father are one.”
31 Again his Jewish opponents picked up
stones to stone him, 32 but Jesus said to
them, “I have shown you many good
works from the Father. For which of these
do you stone me?”
33 “We are not stoning you for any good
work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy,
because you, a mere man, CLAIM to be
God.”

OLAADEGBU:
If Jesus Is God, How Can He, As God, Die?

Http://carm.org/how-jesus-god-die

malvisguy212:
dint you read in the bible that Jesus ïs the fullness of God? The misconceptions start when Jesus dwell in the flash to reconciled us back to himself. The bible say God is a spirit. Can a spirit walk on the realm of human without flash? You can't see a demon unless he possessed someone. Is this hard for you guys to understand?

Its either you are nut or your religion is confuse , @ bold , so that means when the spirit of samuel appear to saul in your bible it has flesh since it look like an OLD man ?

But you guys stupidly said the flesh died and they wont have it again until resurection , how come the bible samuel can have flesh of an old man , since the xristian resurection have not occur ? Am sure you can see the contradiction.

Contradictions gallore

MizJanet:



Its either you are nut or your religion is confuse , @ bold , so that means when the spirit of samuel appear to saul in your bible it has flesh since it look like an OLD man ?

But you guys stupidly said the flesh died and they wont have it again until resurection , how come the bible samuel can have flesh of an old man , since the xristian resurection have not occur ? Am sure you can see the contradiction.

Contradictions gallore

MzNelly:
Jesus is not God. I thought this Trinity belief is archaic.

MzNelly:


Are you saying, without mincing words, that Jesus is God? Wow

What Bible translation is that?

malvisguy212:
man was created in the image of God this mean we possessed a Godly nature, observ the wording in the psalmist:

Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

The phrase "I have said" indicate they did not believe, they are son of God's
David had to assured them of this. Until man really know who they are , they will never know."I have said, ye are gods" even adam was called the son of God.
Jesus is the ONLY begotten son of God meaning "pertaining to being the only one of its kind within a specific relationship with God the father ."

God did not die , its was Jesus who die and ressurecte. God is a spirit, spirit do not die , it was the flesh God possessed in john chapter one, die and ressurect .