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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:13pm On Jul 17, 2015
parrotibaba:
And more
Depay is crazy...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:13pm On Jul 17, 2015
Bimffo are you ready for some stats to show Yaya is actually the worst City player in Europe?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:16pm On Jul 17, 2015
Bimffo:
Raumdeuter, don't bring Schweinsteiger into the same context with Vidal.. Its a fucking insult on Bastian..

After Schweinsteiger, Vidal?? Maybe Vidal of 5 Years ago.. Not the one that played the last Champions league Final..

There is nothing insulting about putting Schweini and Vidal together they are 2 of the best box to box midfielders in Europe

Vidal over the past 5 seasons has proven himself.

If its an insult to put Vidal with Schweini, then its even a greater insult to put Yaya together with any one
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:21pm On Jul 17, 2015
Vs Barcelona at Nou Camp, After Nasri, Yaya was the worst midfielder for City

See below

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:22pm On Jul 17, 2015
Vs ROma, After Navas, Yaya was the worst player on the field

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:23pm On Jul 17, 2015
Vs Bayern Yaya was tied for the worst with Nasri

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 3:24pm On Jul 17, 2015
raumdeuter:

Yaya won the CL and was immediately shipped off to be replaced by a rookie. Tell us any other good player who had that same scenario

New found love for Vidal? Before anyone here knew about Vidal Bayern has been trying to sign him 5yrs ago

Below was what Juup Heynckes has to say about Vidal 5 yrs ago

" Heynckes, who is full of praise for the Chileans," This is a street footballer. Goes into an aircraft, curls up and sleeps, because running from automatism, fantastic - and he also plays football. Arturo could play on a concrete pitch. "

Aside Schweinsteiger when fit, I dont know any better box to box midfielder than Vidal

http://backpagefootball.com/the-rise-of-arturo-vidal-%E2%80%93-the-bundesliga%E2%80%99s-most-complete-player/19891/
Pep pick the best player for his system not the best player between sergio and Yaya
Sergio is a better fit for barcelona,

Yaya toure was better in his prime,
Now vidal is better.
Am not going to start tearing Vidal down to make my point.
We all know what he brings to any team.
But yaya can do it all,
The only thing his detractor will point is the fact that he doesn't defend anymore,
Which is understandably considering his age.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:25pm On Jul 17, 2015
Vs CSKA Yaya was the worst on field player.

I am even omitting the game he slapped someone and got a red card

So Bimffo who is letting the other down Yaya or his teammates

Answer on a postcard

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bimffo(m): 3:26pm On Jul 17, 2015
raumdeuter:
Bimffo are you ready for some stats to show Yaya is actually the worst City player in Europe?

Yaya has his Woes in Europe. We all know that. But immediately he left for Africa in January, ManCity were bleeped Up..

He maybe their worst player in Europe, but for now Yaya is one of the best player in that ManCity squad.. And without him, ManCity is Nada!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:26pm On Jul 17, 2015
SIRcumalot:

Pep pick the best player for his system not the best player between sergio and Yaya
Sergio is a better fit for barcelona,

Yaya toure was better in his prime,
Now vidal is better.
Am not going to start tearing Vidal down to make my point.
We all know what he brings to any team.
But yaya can do it all,
The only thing his detractor will point is the fact that he doesn't defend anymore,
Which is understandably considering his age.

When was Yayas prime since he came to Man City? so I can dig his performance as I have shown he is arguably the worst Man City midfielder in the CL and he is the reason Man City is woeful in Europe
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:27pm On Jul 17, 2015
Bimffo:


Yaya has his Woes in Europe. We all know that. But immediately he left for Africa in January, ManCity were bleeped Up..

He maybe their worst player in Europe, but for now Yaya is one of the best player in that ManCity squad.. And without him, ManCity is Nada!

When do you know great players? performance in local league vs Hull City and co or performance in top games vs European elites?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bimffo(m): 3:30pm On Jul 17, 2015
raumdeuter:


There is nothing insulting about putting Schweini and Vidal together they are 2 of the best box to box midfielders in Europe

Vidal over the past 5 seasons has proven himself.

If its an insult to put Vidal with Schweini, then its even a greater insult to put Yaya together with any one

When we talk of Vision, Bastian beats him..

When we talk of Passing, Bastian beats him..

When we talk of dictating the game at a pace, Bastian still beat him..

And I can mention 3-5 CMs better than Vidal..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bimffo(m): 3:31pm On Jul 17, 2015
raumdeuter:


When do you know great players? performance in local league vs Hull City and co or performance in top games vs European elites?

Please dig out the rating for the last Champions league Final.. Please.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bimffo(m): 3:37pm On Jul 17, 2015
raumdeuter:


When do you know great players? performance in local league vs Hull City and co or performance in top games vs European elites?

ManCity is generally Shìt in Europe.. Yaya is not the only one to blame..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:43pm On Jul 17, 2015
Bimffo:


ManCity is generally Shìt in Europe.. Yaya is not the only one to blame..

City is shit and I have shown Yaya is the major reason City is shitt

He is one of their highest earner and also worst performer in the CL
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:45pm On Jul 17, 2015
Bimffo:


Please dig out the rating for the last Champions league Final.. Please.

Juventus was the under dog vs Barca and significantly inferior

SHould we dig out Schweinis performance vs Barca in the game at the Nou camp and compare to other Bayern midfielders
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 3:46pm On Jul 17, 2015
raumdeuter:


When was Yayas prime since he came to Man City? so I can dig his performance as I have shown he is arguably the worst Man City midfielder in the CL and he is the reason Man City is woeful in Europe
I think he peaked during city last EPL win.
It all this sweeping statement I normally have issues with, you can't join point out one person and say he is the reason why city played horribly in one competition
What about the numerous times he has bailed city out one I can remember right now is the 2011 F.A cup.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bimffo(m): 3:58pm On Jul 17, 2015
raumdeuter:


Juventus was the under dog vs Barca and significantly inferior

SHould we dig out Schweinis performance vs Barca in the game at the Nou camp and compare to other Bayern midfielders

Bastian of last season was injury plagued and he has was already declining.. Let's Dig Out his performance against Barcelona in 2013 at Nou Camp.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:00pm On Jul 17, 2015
Bimffo:


When we talk of Vision, Bastian beats him..

When we talk of Passing, Bastian beats him..

When we talk of dictating the game at a pace, Bastian still beat him..

And I can mention 3-5 CMs better than Vidal..

I am on a Man Utd thread and not trying to be disrespectful but since you brought this up see the below

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:02pm On Jul 17, 2015
Bimffo:


Bastian of last season was injury plagued and he has was already declining.. Let's Dig Out his performance against Barcelona in 2013 at Nou Camp.

Isnt that funny? You want to choose a single performance from about 3yrs ago to say a player is better than one?

Lets take Walcotts performance vs Cardiff last game of last season(assuming his best) and compare to Messis performance in the Copa America final (assuming his worst)

So we can come to a conclusion that Walcott is better than Messi

Shall we? grin grin grin grin

I love Chelsea fans I swear I do. Una just dey make me shine everywhere
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bimffo(m): 4:04pm On Jul 17, 2015
raumdeuter:


I am on a Man Utd thread and not trying to be disrespectful but since you brought this up see the below

Please change this thing from 'per 90 metrics' to 'show totals'
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bimffo(m): 4:10pm On Jul 17, 2015
raumdeuter:


Isnt that funny? You want to choose a single performance from about 3yrs ago to say a player is better than one?

Lets take Walcotts performance vs Cardiff last game of last season(assuming his best) and compare to Messis performance in the Copa America final (assuming his worst)

So we can come to a conclusion that Walcott is better than Messi

Shall we? grin grin grin grin

I love Chelsea fans I swear I do. Una just dey make me shine everywhere

Come On.. Bastian was at his Prime then. Vidal is at his Prime now..

Last season was practically Vidal's best season. Last Season, Bastian was almost Out throughout the Camapign.. So why should we use last season's performance to Judge them?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:11pm On Jul 17, 2015
Bimffo:


Please change this thing from 'per 90 metrics' to 'show totals'

Lol @ Chelsea fans

Okay let me explain, WHen players have varying minutes of play, the per 90 is the closest you can get to precision

Its like Saying One player scored 10 goals over 5 games and another scored 15 over 30 games.

Totals would say B is the better striker(with 15 goals) while per 90 would say A (2 goals/90mins)
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bimffo(m): 4:14pm On Jul 17, 2015
raumdeuter:


Lol @ Chelsea fans

Okay let me explain, WHen players have varying minutes of play, the per 90 is the closest you can get to precision

Its like Saying One player scored 10 goals over 5 games and another scored 15 over 30 games.

Totals would say B is the better striker(with 15 goals) while per 90 would say A (2 goals/90mins)




I seriously know what per 90 metric means..

Just add the 'show totals'.. That's not hard for you.. Is it??

And Y are u using only the Champions league.. Use their overall performance in all competitions.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:16pm On Jul 17, 2015
Bimffo:


Come On.. Bastian was at his Prime then. Vidal is at his Prime now..

Last season was practically Vidal's best season. Last Season, Bastian was almost Out throughout the Camapign.. So why should we use last season's performance to Judge him?

Using the 2013/2014 season since you dont like the 2014/2015 season

There you go

Next excuse

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:19pm On Jul 17, 2015
Bimffo:


I seriously know what per 90 metric means..

Just add the 'show totals'.. That's not hard for you.. Is it??

And Y are u using only the Champions league.. Use their overall performance in all competitions.

Champions league is where both of them play opposition of equal level. e.g all the 3 players compared played vs Barcelona
That eliminates the argument that comes from varying strenght of different leagues

Ok. I apologize for assuming you didnt know what per 90 metrics mean

Since you insist on totals, there you go

Next excuse please

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bimffo(m): 4:20pm On Jul 17, 2015
raumdeuter:


Using the 2013/2014 season since you dont like the 2014/2015 season

There you go

Next excuse

The last time, Bastian had a injury free season, Was Jupp's time.. And why are you using only Champions league to Judge them..? Use the competition that's been played week in, week out..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:23pm On Jul 17, 2015
raumdeuter:
Vs Barcelona at Nou Camp, After Nasri, Yaya was the worst midfielder for City

See below
Bros, can I pls see the rating of Chelsea players against PSG home and away.
Make I see wetin dem give Terry and Cahill.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:24pm On Jul 17, 2015
Bimffo:


The last time, Bastian had a injury free season, Was Jupp's time.. And why are you using only Champions league to Judge them..? Use the competition that's been played week in, week out..

If you insist on the leagues then there you go

League and total everything you want I am showing you

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Keky(m): 4:32pm On Jul 17, 2015
raumdeuter:


I am on a Man Utd thread and not trying to be disrespectful but since you brought this up see the below
hmmmmmm

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bimffo(m): 4:34pm On Jul 17, 2015
raumdeuter:


If you insist on the leagues then there you go

League and total everything you want I am showing you

Dayo na.. grin How far. ??

You are showing all what Vidal is good at.. Interceptions, tackles won, and Fouls committed..

Where are the Aerial duels, the successful take on, passes completed, etc..

Dayo! undecided
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:34pm On Jul 17, 2015
SIRcumalot:

I think he peaked during city last EPL win.
It all this sweeping statement I normally have issues with, you can't join point out one person and say he is the reason why city played horribly in one competition
What about the numerous times he has bailed city out one I can remember right now is the 2011 F.A cup.

Yaya Toure is an embarasment in almost every CL game he played and the stats are there to show.

We are talking about top CL games and you now mentioned FA cup

Yaya might be the reason City won the League but he is also the reason they failed in Europe maybe because the rubbish football in the league suits his strenght more than the intelligent football in the CL

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