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Re: Live now on AIT: Chief Imam Calls BH Criminals by smemud(m): 4:32pm On Jul 17, 2015 |
Hero10001:I can't argue with u bcose u nothing about the book u read.If some Muslims wish to kill for God knows what does that mean we are all terrorist. |
Re: Live now on AIT: Chief Imam Calls BH Criminals by Hero10001: 4:36pm On Jul 17, 2015 |
smemud:else you bomb em?! Mods got the rights to hide any d.u.mb post. Youre just a copy and paste moralfvcking fellow with false knowledge. #ignorance is bad, false knowlede is hell. |
Re: Live now on AIT: Chief Imam Calls BH Criminals by betty202020(m): 4:38pm On Jul 17, 2015 |
koife:na today? its because the boko boys are now attacking mosques. did he call them criminals when they were burning Churchs alone? nobi today. we know those clerics |
Re: Live now on AIT: Chief Imam Calls BH Criminals by Nobody: 4:38pm On Jul 17, 2015 |
smemud:Yes, bro. "and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people. The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch." (Acts 11:26) "Then Agrippa said to Paul, "Do you think that in such a short time you can persuade me to be a Christian?" (Acts 26:28) Let me tell you (I hope I don't sermonise): What makes a follower of Christ is not the title "Christian" "Brethren" "Saint" etc. What makes a follower of Christ is to act like Jesus Christ and follow his tenet. In the first passage, the people of Antioch (Greece) first called the followers of Christ "Christians" because they were Christ-like in Character. The second passage saw Agrippa asking paul whether he wants him(Agrippa) to be a Christian. That tells you that the title Christian was accepted by the apostles and early Church. The term Christian is just like the term "Nigerian" "American" "Spaniard" etc... These words cannot be found in the Constitutions of Nigeria, United States and Spain respectively. But it only ascribes to those that are citizens of the respective countries. Today we call ourselves "Nairalanders" because we use this forum. There is nothing like that in Seun's forum official title. What I am saying is that names ascribed to Christ followers- Christians, Brethren, Saints, Brothers/Sisters, etc are for convenience. What makes one any of those iss to act like Christ. |
Re: Live now on AIT: Chief Imam Calls BH Criminals by Hero10001: 4:41pm On Jul 17, 2015 |
smemud:another d.umb post??!! Btwn, who's arguing with a confused fellow that knows no difference btwn old and new testament?! Google shoulda taught you better. |
Re: Live now on AIT: Chief Imam Calls BH Criminals by BRAV0O(m): 4:43pm On Jul 17, 2015 |
Na today ? One thing I'm very sure of the boko haram is they actually influence their target with water ever reasons know to who ever behind any attack |
Re: Live now on AIT: Chief Imam Calls BH Criminals by smemud(m): 4:49pm On Jul 17, 2015 |
Hero10001:u go siddon. |
Re: Live now on AIT: Chief Imam Calls BH Criminals by Nobody: 4:56pm On Jul 17, 2015 |
Hero10001:This is the truth. It doesn't mean that they should alter their holy book. What they need is wisdom to understand and apply what is written in their book in a way that would promote the tenet of humanity. |
Re: Live now on AIT: Chief Imam Calls BH Criminals by smemud(m): 5:10pm On Jul 17, 2015 |
barcanista:Matthew 5:19 Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. |
Re: Live now on AIT: Chief Imam Calls BH Criminals by Nobody: 5:16pm On Jul 17, 2015 |
smemud:Like I said bro, stop being dogmatic. Which Commandment was Jesus referring too? He was giving some Teachings/Commandments on the Mount in Matthew 5:2-18. He ended by saying his followers must keep to the teachings-all of them. Now which of those teachings was mosaic? Are they not what are binding on christians? My guy, stop being dogmatic. |
Re: Live now on AIT: Chief Imam Calls BH Criminals by smemud(m): 11:55pm On Jul 18, 2015 |
barcanista:Why According To? Why does every Gospel begin with the introduction According To ... According To ... Why "According to?". Because not a single one of the vaunted four thousand copies extant carries its author's autograph! Hence the supposition "according to!" Even the internal evidence proves that Matthew was not the author of the first Gospel which bears his name. |
Re: Live now on AIT: Chief Imam Calls BH Criminals by smemud(m): 12:42am On Jul 19, 2015 |
The three monotheistic religions – Judaism, Christianity, and Islam – all purport to share one fundamental concept: belief in God as the Supreme Being, the Creator and Sustainer of the Universe. This concept of the Oneness of God was stressed by Moses in a Biblical passage known as the ‘Shema’, or the Jewish creed of faith “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord.” (Deuteronomy 6:4) It was repeated word-for-word approximately 1500 years later by Prophet Jesus, when he said “...The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord.” (Mark 12:29) Prophet Muhammad came along approximately 600 years later, bringing the same message again “And your God is One God: there is no God but He...” (Quran 2:163) Christianity has digressed from the concept of the Oneness of God, however, into a vague and mysterious doctrine that was formulated during the fourth century. This doctrine, which continues to be a source of controversy both within and outside the Christian religion, is known as the Doctrine of the Trinity. Simply put, the Christian doctrine of the Trinity states that God is the union of three divine persons – the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit – in one divine being. If that concept, put in basic terms, sounds confusing, the flowery language in the actual text of the doctrine lends even more mystery to the matter “...we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity... for there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, another of the Holy Ghost is all one... they are not three gods, but one God... the whole three persons are co-eternal and co-equal... he therefore that will be saved must thus think of the Trinity...” (Athanasian Creed) Let’s put this together in a different form: one person, God the Father, plus one person, God the Son, plus one person, God the Holy Ghost, equals one person, God the What? Is this English or is this gibberish? It is said that Athanasius, the bishop who formulated this doctrine, confessed that the more he wrote on the matter, the less capable he was of clearly expressing his thoughts regarding it. How did such a confusing doctrine get its start? Trinity in the Bible References in the Bible to a Trinity of divine beings are vague, at best. In Matthew 28:19, we find Jesus telling his disciples to go out and preach to all nations. While this ‘Great Commission’ does make mention of the three persons who later become components of the Trinity, the phrase ‘...baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost’ is quite clearly an addition to Biblical text – that is, not the actual words of Jesus – as can be seen by two factors: 1) baptism in the early Church, as discussed by Paul in his letters, was done only in the name of Jesus; and 2) the ‘Great Commission’ was found in the first gospel written, that of Mark, bears no mention of Father, Son and/or Holy Ghost – see Mark 16:15. The only other reference in the Bible to a Trinity can be found in the Epistle of 1 John 5:7. Biblical scholars of today, however, have admitted that the phrase: “...there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one” …is definitely a ‘later addition’ to Biblical text, and it is not found in any of today’s versions of the Bible. It can, therefore, be seen that the concept of a Trinity of divine beings was not an idea put forth by Prophet Jesus or any other prophet of God. This doctrine, now subscribed to by Christians all over the world, is entirely man-made in origin. The doctrine takes shape While Paul of Tarsus, the man who could rightfully be considered the true founder of Christianity, did formulate many of its doctrines, that of the Trinity was not among them. He did, however, lay the groundwork for such when he put forth the idea of Jesus being a ‘divine Son’. After all, a Son does need a Father, and what about a vehicle for God’s revelations to man? In essence, Paul named the principal players, but it was the later Church people who put the matter together. Tertullian, a lawyer and presbyter of the third century Church in Carthage, was the first to use the word ‘Trinity’ when he put forth the theory that the Son and the Spirit participate in the being of God, but all are of one being of substance with the Father. A formal doctrine is drawn up When controversy over the matter of the Trinity blew up in 318 between two church men from Alexandria – Arius, the deacon, and Alexander, his bishop – Emperor Constantine stepped into the fray. Although Christian dogma was a complete mystery to him, he did realize that a unified church was necessary for a strong kingdom. When negotiation failed to settle the dispute, Constantine called for the first ecumenical council in Church history in order to settle the matter once and for all. Six weeks after the 300 bishops first gathered at Nicea in 325, the doctrine of the Trinity was hammered out. The God of the Christians was now seen as having three essences, or natures, in the form of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The church puts its foot down The matter was far from settled, however, despite high hopes for such on the part of Constantine. Arius and the new bishop of Alexandria, a man named Athanasius, began arguing over the matter even as the Nicene Creed was being signed; ‘Arianism’ became a catch-word from that time onward for anyone who didn’t hold to the doctrine of the Trinity. It wasn’t until 451, at the Council of Chalcedon that, with the approval of the Pope, the Nicene/Constantinople Creed was set as authoritative. Debate on the matter was no longer tolerated; to speak out against the Trinity was now considered blasphemy, and such earned stiff sentences that ranged from mutilation to death. Christians now turned on Christians, maiming and slaughtering thousands because of a difference of opinion. Debate continues Brutal punishments and even death did not stop the controversy over the doctrine of the Trinity, however, and the said controversy continues even today. The majority of Christians, when asked to explain this fundamental doctrine of their faith, can offer nothing more than ‘I believe it because I was told to do so.’ It is explained away as ‘mystery’ – yet the Bible says “…God is not the author of confusion…” (1 Corinthians 14:33) The Unitarian denomination of Christianity has kept alive the teachings of Arius in saying that God is one; they do not believe in the Trinity. As a result, mainstream Christians abhor them, and the National Council of Churches has refused their admittance. In Unitarianism, the hope is kept alive that Christians will someday return to the preaching of Jesus “Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve.” (Luke 4: Islam and the matter of the Trinity While Christianity may have a problem defining the essence of God, such is not the case in Islam “They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them.” (Quran 5:73) It is worth noting that the Arabic language Bible uses the name ‘Allah’ as the name of God. Suzanne Haneef, puts the matter quite succinctly when she says: ‘But God is not like a pie or an apple which can be divided into three thirds which form one whole; if God is three persons or possesses three parts, He is assuredly not the Single, Unique, Indivisible Being which God is and which Christianity professes to believe in.’ (What everyone should know about Islam) Looking at it from another angle, the Trinity designates God as being three separate entities – the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. If God is the Father and also the Son, He would then be the Father of Himself because He is His own Son. This is not exactly logical. Christianity claims to be a monotheistic religion. Monotheism, however, has as its fundamental belief that God is One; the Christian doctrine of the Trinity – God being Three-in-One – is seen by Islam as a form of polytheism. Christians don’t revere just One God, they revere three. This is a charge not taken lightly by Christians, however. They, in turn, accuse the Muslims of not even knowing what the Trinity is, pointing out that the Quran sets it up as Allah the Father, Jesus the Son, and Mary his mother. While veneration of Mary has been a figment of the Catholic Church since 431 when she was given the title ‘Mother of God’ by the Council of Ephesus, a closer examination of the verses in the Quran most often cited by Christians in support of their accusation, shows that the designation of Mary by the Quran as a ‘member’ of the Trinity, is simply not true. While the Quran does condemn both Trinitarianism and the worship of Jesus and his mother Mary, nowhere does it identify the actual three components of the Christian Trinity. The position of the Quran is that WHO or WHAT comprises this doctrine is not important; what is important is that the very notion of a Trinity is an affront against the concept of One God. In conclusion, we see that the doctrine of the Trinity is a concept conceived entirely by man; there is no sanction whatsoever from God to be found regarding the matter simply because the whole idea of a Trinity of divine beings has no place in monotheism. In the Quran, God’s Last and Final Revelation to mankind, we find His stand quite clearly stated in a number of eloquent passages: “Say: ‘I am but a man like yourselves, (but) the inspiration has come to me, that your Allah is one Allah: whoever expects to meet his Lord, let him work righteousness, and, in the worship of his Lord, admit no one as partner.’” (Quran 18:110) “These are among the (precepts of) wisdom, which thy Lord has revealed to thee. Take not, with Allah, another object of worship, lest thou shouldst be thrown into Hell, blameworthy and rejected.” (Quran 17:39) God tells us over and over again in a Message that is echoed throughout all His Revealed Scriptures “Verily, this brotherhood of yours is a single brotherhood, and I am your Lord and Cherisher: therefore serve Me (and no other).” (Quran 21:92) |
Re: Live now on AIT: Chief Imam Calls BH Criminals by Nobody: 8:07am On Jul 19, 2015 |
smemud:You should understand that the disciples of Jesus Christ were not learned people but mostly fishermen. Matthew was a tax collector on behalf of the Romans. These people tell their version of what the experienced to their own disciples. Their disciples inturn write down these things. For instance, nobody talked about the youthful days of Jesus Christ in the Bible, because they might have had no clue or didn't find it necessary. Accounts from the book of John does not contain every accounts in the book of Matthew or Mark. All Gospels captured the Transfiguration and the events leading to the death of Jesus but not all Gospels captured the Sermon on the mount. Let me take you back to Old Testament! People said Moses wrote the first 5 books (Genesis-Deuteronomy) but if you probe further you will realise that another person co-authored Deuteronomy (possibly Joshua). He captured the Death of Moses. A dead man can't write about his own death. |
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