rudebouy:
1. Remove the limit put on states on the amount of megawatts of power they can generate.

2. Scrap the useless National Grid Idea for all new power projects in the states. So henceforth all states will generate and distribute dia own power, not generate and send some to nonsense national grid.

3. Give each state a target of 1,000MW minimum power generation each.

4. Encourage the use of local source of materials for constructing the power plants so as to create employment and help our economy.

So if each state generates 1,000MW by 2019, we will have 36,000MW of power in Nigeria. An average power plant can be built in 3yrs so dis is fvcking achievable.

I think I red sth like dis in dia manifesto. Day ought to follow dis tru so we can finally have light.

Smart guys in d house, u can add ur ideas to dis.

ab1x:
We should stop the importation of generator sets

satelliteDISH:

O boy, let their b light first b4 u say bye bye to generators.

rudebouy:
1. Remove the limit put on states on the amount of megawatts of power they can generate.

2. Scrap the useless National Grid Idea for all new power projects in the states. So henceforth all states will generate and distribute dia own power, not generate and send some to nonsense national grid.

3. Give each state a target of 1,000MW minimum power generation each.

4. Encourage the use of local source of materials for constructing the power plants so as to create employment and help our economy.

So if each state generates 1,000MW by 2019, we will have 36,000MW of power in Nigeria. An average power plant can be built in 3yrs so dis is fvcking achievable.

I think I red sth like dis in dia manifesto. Day ought to follow dis tru so we can finally have light.

Smart guys in d house, u can add ur ideas to dis.

netotse:

Oga, you don't seem to know what the problem of power sector is sef, I don't even know where to start from. The problems we have are a mixture of engineering, economics, finance and law.

nuesaweso:


I disagree. Power generated in states cannot be distributed without the existing network. Also, a grid system can ride through electrical faults/transients easily.


Does america, russia and brazil use a national grid system? Why do we enjoy making simple tins difficult in naija sef?

I disagree. The easiest way to generate power is by using CCGT. The G there is the problem. Not all the states have gas gathering/storage facility, so this wont work.


Baba, Brazil has oil but abt 70% of dia power is from renewable energy - water. Abi is water and sun hard to find again in naija. Solar power can power d north becos d north has hot sun. Hydro power can power d south-west, south-east and south-south.

To me, its dat simple.

I tend to agree but the feasibility/practicality is debatable. Also, this wont fix our immediate power shortage due to time required for new designs to mature.

Nothing can be achieved in dis country if we all hav such a mindset.

rudebouy:

Bros, abeg tell me wot the problems of the power sector are mbok? I want to learn from the master.

nuesaweso:


The reason I mentioned CCGT is because we all know we have readily available gas that can be monetised locally. You can get a new CCGT 1GW ready in about 24 months.

rudebouy:

Madam, u sound like an engineer tru tru oh. Mbok can u tell me wia and when 1 Gigawatts of electricity was generated within 24 months? Am super-curious!

nuesaweso:


Modern CCGTs are now modular packaged. I know siemens have been successful with pushing their designs & I can bet Alstom and GE can compete with them too.

For example is below, copied and pasted from internet

"Irsching 5 was commissioned in May 2010 after two years of construction. It is an 847MW CCGT with efficiency above 60%. The new SGT5-8000H is the world's largest and most powerful turbine. The order was approximately worth ?450m. The natural gas plant will supply power to a population equal to the size of Hamburg."

http://www.power-technology.com/projects/irsching/

rocgirl:
Suprisingly, the secret to permanently solving Nigeria's lingering power issues is to generate above the nation's required power capacity .
Just that, and everything else falls into place!

rudebouy:

Tanx. But dis is 8000MW na. Am talking abt 1GW madam, u sed it urself oh! Mbok show working na?

rudebouy:
1. Remove the limit put on states on the amount of megawatts of power they can generate.

2. Scrap the useless National Grid Idea for all new power projects in the states. So henceforth all states will generate and distribute dia own power, not generate and send some to nonsense national grid.

3. Give each state a target of 1,000MW minimum power generation each.

4. Encourage the use of local source of materials for constructing the power plants so as to create employment and help our economy.

. [size=18pt]An So if each state generates 1,000MW by 2019, we will have 36,000MW of power in Nigeriaaverage power plant can be built in 3yrs so dis is fvcking achievable.[/size]

I think I red sth like dis in dia manifesto. Day ought to follow dis tru so we can finally have light.

Smart guys in d house, u can add ur ideas to dis.

rudebouy:

Madam, u sound like an engineer tru tru oh. Mbok can u tell me wia and when 1 Gigawatts of electricity was generated within 24 months? Am super-curious!

netotse:

Oga, you don't seem to know what the problem of power sector is sef, I don't even know where to start from. The problems we have are a mixture of engineering, economics, finance and law.

nuesaweso:

nuesaweso:


Oga, are you having a laugh? 1GW is 1000MW. I've shown you random example of 847MW. You still want the evidence for difference of 153MW, really?

Forgive me but I doubt if you're an Engr.

nuesaweso:


Oga, are you having a laugh? 1GW is 1000MW. I've shown you random example of 847MW. You still want the evidence for difference of 153MW, really?

Forgive me but I doubt if you're an Engr.

nuesaweso:
The business of privatisation of power generation and distribution is complex because it's multi-disciplinary. As someone rightly pointed out, a typical functional commercial power system will normally balance on the technical, commercial & legal tripod.
Technical - Covers choice of technology for generation, transmission, distribution, engineering related issues etc
Commercial - Finance (equity or debt), Capex, Opex, Metering, life extension etc
Legal - Conflicts management, liquidated damages, service credits etc.
Lastly, you would require some form of Regulatory body usually a Govt body (OfGem in the UK) which oversees the activities of private companies.

I won't expand on each of the emboldened above here as I'm sure there are many literatures out there covering that; but you can begin to have a feel of how many interfaces required to have a functional privatised energy sector. The mistake we all make is we focus only on the technical side.

Does america, russia and brazil use a national grid system? Why do we enjoy making simple tins difficult in naija sef?

All these countries do have some form of grid system. America has regional grid system and you would appreciate that due to the geographical size of the country, it's difficult (not impossible) to have a national grid system. Russia has a national grid system which is interconnected with Norway. They also have a sub-grid system that connects remote areas. These countries have nuclear power plant, and there is no way you can operate a nuclear power plant without a grid system.

A grid system offers your electrical network reliability and resilience. Imagine if the only generator connected to a city suffers an electrical fault or out for planned maintenance, how would you reconnect the city with some form of grid system? What I would expect is for us to move towards a smart grid system, which allows distributed generation to be connected at different voltage levels. We can deal with other technical problems like harmonics, Rocof etc later

Baba, Brazil has oil but abt 70% of dia power is from renewable energy - water. Abi is water and sun hard to find again in naija. Solar power can power d north becos d north has hot sun. Hydro power can power d south-west, south-east and south-south.

To me, its dat simple.

Baba, Nigeria could boast of almost proportional hydroelectric power - sure you've heard of Mambilla. Same problem, never works! For other forms of renewable power, our grid is just not robust enough and we would suffer more if we connect these volatile and intermittent renewable sources (wind, solar) to the grid. However, I accept that this could form part of the long term solution.

The reason I mentioned CCGT is because we all know we have readily available gas that can be monetised locally. You can get a new CCGT 1GW ready in about 24 months, and this can literally be "copied" & "pasted" around the country with the right infrastructure and site-specific modifications. For me, this is our short term fix. Also, CCGTs can be used for both base load & peak load unlike hydroelectric.

Nothing can be achieved in dis country if we all hav such a mindset.
My point is we don't need to reinvent the wheel or try to be too clever when there are cheap, proven and available solutions to our problem.

nuesaweso:


Oga, are you having a laugh? 1GW is 1000MW. I've shown you random example of 847MW. You still want the evidence for difference of 153MW, really?

Forgive me but I doubt if you're an Engr.

nuesaweso:


Hope the above helps.

rudebouy:


Pls do you know the MW limit placed on states by the FG dat state can generate?

netotse:


there isn't any limit

rudebouy:


Ah! Ah! But when Fashola was building his 10/12 MW capacity power plants, he sed sth like " dis is wot we are allowed to do according to the law".

Wot does dat imply?

netotse:


if you meet the requirements for a license you will be granted it doesn't matter whether you're a state or local govt, it's extremely likely they had other constraints (e.g. funding or fuel supply) that led to whatever restriction Fashola was referring to.