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Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:18pm On Dec 31, 2014 |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by kestolove95(m): 2:37pm On Dec 31, 2014 |
is Jesus God in d first place?jesus is not God and he nevr sae to anybody dat his God..his a massengr of God whom he refr to as his father. 1 Like |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by delishpot: 2:44pm On Dec 31, 2014 |
Jesus is NOT God. He said so himself. He always said he is doing the work of the one who sent him. Son of OBJ is not OBJ. 1 Like |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by Nobody: 3:02pm On Dec 31, 2014 |
This boy/man no dey hear I juss dey laugh 1 Like |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by MightySparrow: 3:09pm On Dec 31, 2014 |
Jesus became Son only after His resurrection. Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee. God to christianity not a personal name but a common name for a class of beings; highest among beings. Ye are gods all of you are children of Most High. More explanation to follow meanwhile, let me enjoy my meal. 1 Like |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:10pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: Suggested answer:
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Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:32pm On Jul 21, 2015 |
kestolove95: You shall know the truth and the truth that you know shall set you free. |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:35pm On Jul 21, 2015 |
delishpot: Just as a kid of goat is still a goat equally the Son of God is also God. 1 Like |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:38pm On Jul 21, 2015 |
MzNelly: Whoever the Son shall set free shall be free indeed. |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:39pm On Jul 21, 2015 |
MightySparrow: You never finish ya meal? |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by delishpot: 6:02pm On Jul 21, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: Ok. Since you know better than the Jesus himself |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by Freksy(m): 8:54pm On Jul 21, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: There are many gods, but there is only one who is the almighty among them, the father of Jesus. All goats are not the same, just like all gods are not the same. No kid of goat is greater than or equal to its begetter, especially in age. |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:14am On Jul 22, 2015 |
Freksy: Let me repost excerpts of what I posted on another thread in response to your objection: What does it mean to call Jesus the Son of God? |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:17am On Jul 22, 2015 |
delishpot: What God begets is God; just as what man begets is man. |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by BERNIMOORE: 12:58am On Jul 22, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU:do you read what you just wrote! Your defination up there jumped a process; man beget through intercouse! how does God beget Jesus? Do you mean through intercourse? Explain the process that God used to beget jesus other than mere utterance from God to Jesus during baptism......emphasis on beget! 2 Likes |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:17am On Jul 22, 2015 |
BERNIMOORE: The onus is on you to find out what it means to beget. |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by BERNIMOORE: 1:28am On Jul 22, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU:tell me that you can't explain the process of how God beget Jesus! Simple so until you do that we all knew that man beget through intercouse and so your variables in your analogy of beget are not in agreement and so nulled and voided! |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by davien(m): 1:28am On Jul 22, 2015 |
Carm.org is his bible folks....don't listen to him and he'll refer you to answersingenesis.org....prove more stubborn and he'll send you to gotquestions.com.. |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by BERNIMOORE: 1:33am On Jul 22, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU:so the onus/burden is on me now Olaadegbu! at times when I read your posts I laugh at how you used to jump exegical holes to arrive at a straw conclusion and expect one to swallow them wholesale! Simple question you can't defend your project |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by Freksy(m): 3:28am On Jul 22, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: Angels are described as 'sons of God', not as adopted sons. Can that be used as proof of their godship and equality of rank with God? Your point on the use, or non use of the word 'adoption' is weak.
Please note how your expression in red refutes the one in green: If to beget means [size=14pt]TO BECOME[/size] the father of, it therefore means God has not always been the father of Jesus, (according to your logic/analogy). Again, the moment God begot, or [size=14pt]BECAME[/size] the father of Jesus, Jesus also [size=14pt]BECAME[/size] the son of God, true or false? Recall that you claim Jesus 'never BECAME God's son'. (Your comment in green) QUESTION: When God BECAME the father of Jesus (according to your comment in red), what happened? Did Jesus refuse to BECOME God's son?
I do not dispute the godship of Jesus, for even Satan is a god. The word "God" is a title that can be used to describe any kind and being, like man and Satan respectively. If you claim Jesus is or equals to the almighty god, then you are 100% wrong. No other being can BEGET (BECOME the father of) the almighty god. Isaac was the only begotten son of Abraham, could we therefore conclude Isaac was equal to Abraham, his father? One was obviously greater than the other. The begetter is always greater than the begotten, especially in age. |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by delishpot: 7:50am On Jul 22, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: I have agreed with you na. Acording to your theory, Mr Ade givre birth to to Ade Jr that means Ade Junior can go to work as Ade Sr and should be given all what is due to his father irrespective of his qualification. We are not argueing if Jesus is divine or not. We are not asking if a snake gives birth to a lion. We are asking if Jesus is the son of God, a divine being or if Jesus is God as in Jehovah himself. But if you choose to play around and act like you dont understant what this is about then by all means suit yourself. |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by dolphinheart(m): 4:20pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: Good, a kid of goat is still a goat. The son of God can be said to be a God. Likewise son of man is a man , and not man. |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:29pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
davien: Thanks for advertising those links you will be better off reading them if you wouldn't read the Bible. |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:31pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
BERNIMOORE: The onus probandi is on you to prove that Jesus is not who He claimed to be. |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:46pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
Freksy: All created beings such as Adam and Angels can also be referred to as 'sons' of God but not the only begotten Son of God which is reserved for the Lord Jesus Christ. Fresky: Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son because He eternally proceeds from the Father. He is the Father's 'selfie' Fresky: What God begets has the nature of God and what man begets has the nature of man. Jesus had both the natures of God and man. Simples |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:50pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
delishpot: Jesus is God's selfie, go figure.
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Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:53pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
dolphinheart: What God begets is God and what man begets is man, it's as simple as that. |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by Intrepid01(m): 5:13pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
@dolphinheart: May God bless your deep analytical sense. @OLAADEGBU: May God grant you understanding and wisdom. @myself: God pls grant me wisdom, understanding and knowledge to comprehend both physical and spiritual things and the realistic sense to accept them. |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:29pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
Intrepid01: My prayer is for you to be able to discern errors and not be swept in by every wind of doctrine. |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by Nobody: 5:43pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
lol just like ant that thinks it can perform experiments made by man tell me is it brain capable lol that what i refer those people that think they can understand GOD'S way.......... basically JESUS is the glory of GOD who has not been seen by anyone not even MOSES..... moses saw the glory of GOD who is JESUS you may also wonder who had been visiting adam and eve it was JESUS who those that dont see him as GOD will bow to with tears in their eyes and pleas their mouth JESUS is the word of GOD he abandoned his real nature just to save us by dying for our sins ............... anyone that enters the house without passing through the door is a thief just as some claim to serve God and not jesus they will explain how they got access to him (GOD) in the house without passing through the main door (JESUS) 1 Like |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by dolphinheart(m): 10:24pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: You have now dumped your own goat pikin explanation as you have realised the truth in it. What man begets is man , does these mean the begetor and begetee are the same Man?. No. man begets man but the man begeted cannot be the same as the begetor. Neither did they come to exist at the same time. Selfie! My God! .if jesus is the fathers selfie, what is the holy spirit? The camera?!!!! |
Re: Does The Term "Son Of God" Mean That Jesus Is Not God? by dolphinheart(m): 10:30pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
Intrepid01: Amen . Though I'm not that deep, I'm still a learner. |
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