ezeagu:


This is what happens when you try and peg your culture to a completely alien one, you just pointed out generic similarities that are found in many cultures. You're also assuming that Anambra is the nucleus of Igbo culture and have been uninfluenced even though both Benin and Igala have influenced many communities in what we now know as Anambra State. The woman's story I quoted, Ahebi, married women without a husband.

ezeagu:


There have been studies, such as linguistics (Hausa is linked closer to Hebrew than Igbo, in fact Hausa is in the same Afro-Asiatic language family as Hebrew, while Igbo is not, Igbo is closer to languages in Congo than it is to anything in the Middle East), culture (there are more than enough cultural coincidences around the world because human nature does not vary that much in the end), and genetic (there are no genes in the Igbo ancestry that shares any ancestry coming from the Middle East). There is no history or Igbo word that described any journey or any place name in Israel. The Aguleri king completely fabricated his history with the help of some random white guy and that's completely deplorable. There's more evidence that the civilisations in the Middle East came from Africa, in fact they did.



Maybe in the areas where they have Ozo na Nze, but in Imo, Abia and Ebonyi (and Ijo, Ibibio and parts of Enugu) the Aro Chukwu oracle was supreme, especially in the 18th to 19th centuries.

new2020:
Nnamdi Kanu is afterall right. One and only God as clearly seen in the excerpt ... "Tshuku-okeke"or Chukwu Okike Abiama. Very learned man!

Igbos don't feel alone living in a country where your fellow country men hate you with passion and are afraid of your potential. The world knows this even highly placed governments know you have Jewish ancestry and endowed with incredible gift of ingenuity.

"Igbos are wandering Jews of West Africa - gifted, aggressive, westernized, and at best, envied and resented, but mostly despised by their neighbors in the Federation---" (a White House Memo on Biafra January 28, 1969 to President Nixon by Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger) (Source : U.S Foreign Relations Documents Volume 5 , 1969)

Dr. Thomas Sowell, renowned American philosopher in one of his books recognized four highly gifted peoples across the world: The Jews, Germans, Chinese and Igbos.

Give them Biafra and watch them build a civilization never seen before in a black nation.

OfoIgbo:


Let me start from your last paragraph. In occasions where both the Eze Nri and Eze Aro attended the same events even late last year, the Eze Nri officiated in certain traditional rites, even with Eze Aro being present.

Aro is completely dependent on the Nri-Igbo four market days of Eke, Oye/Orie, Afor, Nkwo and whatever the Eze Aro does, has to fall into one of these market days, so in a way you can really say that ARO LIVES, MOVES AND HAS ITS BEING within the cultural and astronomical cocoon created by the Nris. Btw, the market days are alusis owned and controlled by the Nris.
Any Igbo town with any market bearing the names of those market days were established by Nri priests in those towns in times gone by.
Bfore the advent of the white man, these markets also had shrines bearing the exact name of the marketit is situated in but Christianity has seen to the destruction of those shrines.

Though I have never been to any Aro town, I suspect they have or had these markets and only Nri priest could set up these markets afterall they had copyright on those shrines.
Nomenclatures like NRI BU ISI IGBO and NRI JI OFO are ancient and it is for a reason.

OfoIgbo:
Now dealing with your other point. Even though I am not exactly saying that Igbos are Jews, I believe we have far more in common with Jews than Hausas
1.In the bible, God had a covenant with Abraham that his descendants must be circumcised on the EIGHTH day after their births. Well as I am sure you know, Igbos circumcise their male descendants once two Nri-Igbo market days elapses, which coincidentally is 8 days. I have been told Hausas don't circumcise traditionally so that completely rules them out

OfoIgbo:

2. IKPU ALU which is carried out by Nri priests has a lot in common with the feast of atonement by Jews. In days gone by, when an Igbo person commits an abomination, Nri priest are sought after to lift the abomination and its consequences. Normally a lamb, ram even chicken occasionally will be used. The abomination/sins of the person is transferred to the lamb and the person is considered whole again. This also has a lot in common with the core belief in Christianity LOOK AT THE LAMB OF GOD THAT TAKETH AWAY THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD. Now this is a core Nri belief that mirrors what Jews and christians have been doing

OfoIgbo:

3. On two occasions in the UK, black families that are completely Igbo have had offsprings that are completely caucasian. This couldn't have happened unless the ancestors of the parents were at one point, perhaps thousands of years ago, white.

OfoIgbo:


Let me start from your last paragraph. In occasions where both the Eze Nri and Eze Aro attended the same events even late last year, the Eze Nri officiated in certain traditional rites, even with Eze Aro being present.

Aro is completely dependent on the Nri-Igbo four market days of Eke, Oye/Orie, Afor, Nkwo and whatever the Eze Aro does, has to fall into one of these market days, so in a way you can really say that ARO LIVES, MOVES AND HAS ITS BEING within the cultural and astronomical cocoon created by the Nris. Btw, the market days are alusis owned and controlled by the Nris.
Any Igbo town with any market bearing the names of those market days were established by Nri priests in those towns in times gone by.
Bfore the advent of the white man, these markets also had shrines bearing the exact name of the marketit is situated in but Christianity has seen to the destruction of those shrines.

Though I have never been to any Aro town, I suspect they have or had these markets and only Nri priest could set up these markets afterall they had copyright on those shrines.
Nomenclatures like NRI BU ISI IGBO and NRI JI OFO are ancient and it is for a reason.

Now dealing with your other point. Even though I am not exactly saying that Igbos are Jews, I believe we have far more in common with Jews than Hausas
1.In the bible, God had a covenant with Abraham that his descendants must be circumcised on the EIGHTH day after their births. Well as I am sure you know, Igbos circumcise their male descendants once two Nri-Igbo market days elapses, which coincidentally is 8 days. I have been told Hausas don't circumcise traditionally so that completely rules them out

2. IKPU ALU which is carried out by Nri priests has a lot in common with the feast of atonement by Jews. In days gone by, when an Igbo person commits an abomination, Nri priest are sought after to lift the abomination and its consequences. Normally a lamb, ram even chicken occasionally will be used. The abomination/sins of the person is transferred to the lamb and the person is considered whole again. This also has a lot in common with the core belief in Christianity LOOK AT THE LAMB OF GOD THAT TAKETH AWAY THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD. Now this is a core Nri belief that mirrors what Jews and christians have been doing

3. On two occasions in the UK, black families that are completely Igbo have had offsprings that are completely caucasian. This couldn't have happened unless the ancestors of the parents were at one point, perhaps thousands of years ago, white.

carnegiefan:


I don't believe in a common Igbo origins anyway. That much is intuitive.
Before I digress too far, the key point of my comment is that precolonial Igbo style marriage served us better than the western one we practice today. In that culture, every woman was accounted for. There was no woman who couldn't find a husband as is the case today.
The only ones who roamed were harlots (as in Jewish culture too).
Like someone said above, there is a weird similarity between Igbo and Hebrew of the olden days.

omoelesa:
The only jews that gets deported from israel.yeye

new2020:
Nnamdi Kanu is afterall right. One and only God as clearly seen in the excerpt ... "Tshuku-okeke"or Chukwu Okike Abiama. Very learned man!

Igbos don't feel alone living in a country where your fellow country men hate you with passion and are afraid of your potential. The world knows this even highly placed governments know you have Jewish ancestry and endowed with incredible gift of ingenuity.

"Igbos are wandering Jews of West Africa - gifted, aggressive, westernized, and at best, envied and resented, but mostly despised by their neighbors in the Federation---" (a White House Memo on Biafra January 28, 1969 to President Nixon by Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger) (Source : U.S Foreign Relations Documents Volume 5 , 1969)

Dr. Thomas Sowell, renowned American philosopher in one of his books recognized four highly gifted peoples across the world: The Jews, Germans, Chinese and Igbos.

Give them Biafra and watch them build a civilization never seen before in a black nation.

cheruv:
Its no fact that we're seen as Jews.

ezeagu:
Has China, Israel or Germany shown favour to any other dark race before?



True.

kessgreen:
why do u people still love deceiving yourselves? do u think the isrealites of today give a hoot about you? go there and u'l discover they will throw u like garbage away. if you doubt it, find out what is happening to Ethipian jews who live there. there are being discriminated upon. yet u stil dey here, all of una go dey talk of one rubbish massob n jew nonsense. oga park well [font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]

omoelesa:
The only jews that gets deported from israel.yeye

omoelesa:
The only jews that gets deported from israel.yeye

Ibrahimmrfish:


Were are you getting your facts?I live in the north all my life, but i never see or heard of an un-circumcise Hausa man.Hausa also circumcise their boys. And no tribe in Nigeria have any connection with the Jewish.

Ihuomadinihu:
As it stands, Igbo is a Niger Congo language which is connected to Yoruba,Edo, Nupe,Fulani, Akan etc. If they absorbed a tiny group of wandering jews in the past that is what we are yet to know.
On the other hand,Hausa is an afro-asaitic language which is connected to Arabic and Hebrew. But i have seen certain articles that reference hausa as a Nilotic language which absorbed afro asiatic language patterns while they were migrating down to Northern Nigeria. It was quite difficult for inguists to tag hausa an afro asiatic language cos they looked entirely different from other afro asiatic speakers.

disumusa:
if na play pls stop it. Na you go connect with ibo in jesus name or in the name of any gods you worship.

Ihuomadinihu:
As it stands, Igbo is a Niger Congo language which is connected to Yoruba,Edo, Nupe,Fulani, Akan etc. If they absorbed a tiny group of wandering jews in the past that is what we are yet to know.
On the other hand,Hausa is an afro-asaitic language which is connected to Arabic and Hebrew. But i have seen certain articles that reference hausa as a Nilotic language which absorbed afro asiatic language patterns while they were migrating down to Northern Nigeria. It was quite difficult for inguists to tag hausa an afro asiatic language cos they looked entirely different from other afro asiatic speakers.

Ibrahimmrfish:

They totally look different from the rest,but their DNA have a trace of Y chromosome, showing that,originally they were Asian. I don't think Igbo have any genetic link with Asia.

Ihuomadinihu:
@OfoIgbo I hope you know that Nri hegemony is limited to Northern Igbo and parts of Mid western Nigeria? Most Southern Igbos don't know what Nri stands for.
Secondly,how do you know that Nri clans founded market days for other igbos?
I hope you understand that the other Igbo clans in the Anambra valley decided to give Nri the special privilledge of doing the Ikpu ala tradition.
Pls check on history before saying Nri bu isi Igbo!

Ihuomadinihu:

^What sort of rubbish is this?

OfoIgbo:


let me put it this way
1. If your town has an Eke, Orie, Afor or Nkwo, that was put jn place before the coming of the white man, then your people had Nri influence back in the days, way before Aro emerged. They own the originating shrines of these market days. FULL STOP
2. If your people took such titles as nze, ozo, duru, mgburu-ichi, then your people habe Nri influence.
3. If your people recognised the Igbo year as celebrated by the Nris wherein years are ushered in, you have Nri influence
4. If our people have an ALU/ARU concept and depend on Nri to lift such abominations, then you have Nri influence

You will notice that most Igbos subscribe at least one or more of the above stipulations. NRI JI OFO.
NRI BU ISI IGBO

cheruv:
I maghi na o vu onye ara naagaghari agaghari na NL?

Lovesdaisied:


Ok. Sorry for ruining your night with this thread. But you could have easily ignored it you know. The numerous Buhari, APC/PDP wars, America and Obama threads are there.

Ihuomadinihu:

Afro asia doesn't mean asian. It's a language group found in Africa and the middle east. Of course,they like to place Arabia in asia to confuse people.

kessgreen:
why do u people still love deceiving yourselves? do u think the isrealites of today give a hoot about you? go there and u'l discover they will throw u like garbage away. if you doubt it, find out what is happening to Ethipian jews who live there. there are being discriminated upon. yet u stil dey here, all of una go dey talk of one rubbish massob n jew nonsense. oga park well [font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]

OfoIgbo:


let me put it this way
1. If your town has an Eke, Orie, Afor or Nkwo, that was put jn place before the coming of the white man, then your people had Nri influence back in the days, way before Aro emerged. They own the originating shrines of these market days. FULL STOP
2. If your people took such titles as nze, ozo, duru, mgburu-ichi, then your people habe Nri influence.
3. If your people recognised the Igbo year as celebrated by the Nris wherein years are ushered in, you have Nri influence
4. If our people have an ALU/ARU concept and depend on Nri to lift such abominations, then you have Nri influence

You will notice that most Igbos subscribe at least one or more of the above stipulations. NRI JI OFO.
NRI BU ISI IGBO

OfoIgbo:


let me put it this way
1. If your town has an Eke, Orie, Afor or Nkwo, that was put jn place before the coming of the white man, then your people had Nri influence back in the days, way before Aro emerged. They own the originating shrines of these market days. FULL STOP
2. If your people took such titles as nze, ozo, duru, mgburu-ichi, then your people habe Nri influence.
3. If your people recognised the Igbo year as celebrated by the Nris wherein years are ushered in, you have Nri influence
4. If our people have an ALU/ARU concept and depend on Nri to lift such abominations, then you have Nri influence

You will notice that most Igbos subscribe at least one or more of the above stipulations. NRI JI OFO.
NRI BU ISI IGBO

Ibrahimmrfish:

Guy don't tell me what i already know.Afro Asia group of language cut across Asia and Africa. And have different groups black,yellow and and so on.But that is not what i was talking about. I am talking about DNA testing and what the result shows.

cheruv:

As an ukwangwa,I recognize the influence Nri had over Igbo civilization. The Aros were said to have migrated from Nri...and you can't compare a civilization that started in 900AD to one that started in 1690AD.
The Nri were cultural and religious in outlook, while the Aro were political and economic in outlook.
Even though in my opinion the Aros failed to dominate Igbo land(I'd ve been happy if they did), they're one of the tribes of the Igbo nation I respect.
Nri still remains the premiere.. And I've this feeling that the future emperor of Igbo land would be crowned by the EzeNri