ddami:
DON'T CRY,, WE ARE BOTH STABLE..

DieVluit:


We do NOT have the same credit rating. You are rated two notches BELOW junk.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-22/nigeria-s-fall-deeper-into-junk-risks-africa-s-best-bond-rally

ddami:
DON'T CRY,, WE ARE BOTH STABLE..
http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/countingthecost/2015/03/south-africa-economy-threat-150307081926174.html GO SOLVE YOUR OWN ISSUES BOOBOO..
you are making me do stuffs I don't do,,, posting links about others people's business... BUT you really need to know about your own problems

DieVluit:


You know ZERO about ratings. There are three rating agencies. You are below junk and are negative. South Africa is above junk and is stable. We are better rated than you on all the agencies. We are not the same. You are effectively worthless ito your rating. I already told you that. You are junk. You cannot raise healthy debt and you have no money of your own to spend. You have a dilapidated country that you cannot build. South Africa is better developed and has less of an infrastructural deficit. It can raise healthier debt and has more revenues and therefore, more of its own money to spend. You have 180 million mouths to feed too, which lowers your GDP per capita. Sucks being you.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/country-list/rating

DieVluit:


You know ZERO about ratings. There are three rating agencies. You are below junk and are negative. South Africa is above junk and is stable. We are better rated than you on all the agencies. We are not the same. You are effectively worthless ito your rating. I already told you that. You are junk. You cannot raise healthy debt and you have no money of your own to spend. You have a dilapidated country that you cannot build. South Africa is better developed and has less of an infrastructural deficit. It can raise healthier debt and has more revenues and therefore, more of its own money to spend. You have 180 million mouths to feed too, which lowers your GDP per capita. Sucks being you.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/country-list/rating

ddami:
DIE,, LEAVE US ALONE,, ITS OUR DEBT,,, SHOW YOUR LOVE AND CONCERN TO YOUR COUNTRY AND TELL YOUR GOVT TO PAY US OUR $5MILLION,,

guess what,, IT PASSIONATELY SUCKS BEING SOUTH AFRICA AND A SOUTH AFRICAN,,,

DieVluit:


Is that why you are screaming and butthurt? If you were worth your salt, you would not even have allowed that $15 million (you can't count) to get to South Africa in the first place. You would not have had to go and buy weapons from us. But you are not capable of sustaining yourselves. You import everything, with forex you don't have. Now that the forex has been burnt in your efforts to save the naira, you're up sh1t's creek without a paddle. Talk about being in a dwang.

ddami:
AND YET ANOTHER SPEECH OF A LIFETIME,,,THE SAME THING YOU HAVE BEEN CRYING ON LIKE FOREVER,,,SEND OUR MONEY TO US PERIOD....,,,,

AND I MUST SAY IT EMOTIONALLY SUCKS BEING SOUTH AFRICA AND A SOUTH AFRICAN- FACT..,,,
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DieVluit:


You know ZERO about ratings. There are three rating agencies. You are below junk and are negative. South Africa is above junk and is stable. We are better rated than you on all the agencies. We are not the same. You are effectively worthless ito your rating. I already told you that. You are junk. You cannot raise healthy debt and you have no money of your own to spend. You have a dilapidated country that you cannot build. South Africa is better developed and has less of an infrastructural deficit. It can raise healthier debt and has more revenues and therefore, more of its own money to spend. You have 180 million mouths to feed too, which lowers your GDP per capita. Sucks being you.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/country-list/rating

DieVluit:


Which "same thing" has now got you shouting and destabilised. What you should be doing is accepting the shame that comes with your having taken the money to South Africa in the first place. That same shame is tied to the shame that comes with your haplessness at the moment. The haplessness that we witnessed in Buhari's having gone to beg in the US and in return, he was hit with disrespect. Obama left him and decided he'd go off to Kenya. The weapon-sales ban was not lifted, leaving your hapless government to wonder where they will run to for weapons now. South Africa is sitting with their money and the US will not sell them weapons. Ukraine mercenaries got killed when your jet was shot down by militants. When it rains it pours for Nigeria. No money. No friends. No wits. Turmoil.

DieVluit:


Which "same thing" has now got you shouting and destabilised. What you should be doing is accepting the shame that comes with your having taken the money to South Africa in the first place. That same shame is tied to the shame that comes with your haplessness at the moment. The haplessness that we witnessed in Buhari's having gone to beg in the US and in return, he was hit with disrespect. Obama left him and decided he'd go off to Kenya. The weapon-sales ban was not lifted, leaving your hapless government to wonder where they will run to for weapons now. South Africa is sitting with their money and the US will not sell them weapons. Ukraine mercenaries got killed when your jet was shot down by militants. When it rains it pours for Nigeria. No money. No friends. No wits. Turmoil.

ddami:
. uuuhhh **YAWNS**,, BOOBOO, DON'T YOU EVER GET TIRED OF REPEATING THE SAME THING,,, I AM A NIGERIAN AND WE ARE DEFINITELY AWARE OF OUR PROBLEMS AND DEALING WITH IT,,,,,, BUT REALLY THE BEST YOU CAN DO IS TO TYPE ABOUT IT ON NL,,,,,

MEANWHILE IT UTTERLY SUCKS TO BE SOUTH AFRICA AND A SOUTH AFRICAN.....

ddami:
. uuuhhh **YAWNS**,, BOOBOO, DON'T YOU EVER GET TIRED OF REPEATING THE SAME THING,,, I AM A NIGERIAN AND WE ARE DEFINITELY AWARE OF OUR PROBLEMS AND DEALING WITH IT,,,,,, BUT REALLY THE BEST YOU CAN DO IS TO TYPE ABOUT IT ON NL,,,,,

MEANWHILE IT UTTERLY SUCKS TO BE SOUTH AFRICA AND A SOUTH AFRICAN.....

MduZA:



lol
....amusing

mzilakazi:


A whopping bill of $63billion as agreed by minister Lweala.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/okonjo-iweala-jonathan-incurred-21bn-of-63bn-national-debts/210139/

patches689:


We can affors our debt

DieVluit:


You mean like you keep repeating the "I am Nigerian and you are South African" song? The "sucks to be South African" song? Ask those that are older on this thread and they will tell you that you need a brain to deal with Die*Vluit. Emotion and typing in CAPS will not get you anywhere. It certainly won't change the fact that you have pretty much accepted that you are a broke nation. Your only protest now is that we keep reminding you of that fact. You want us to now please make it stop. Boo hoo.

You've become the joke of the thread and taken over where Evarn left off.

Snydergp1:


Let's settle this useless arguments and be truthful for once in your miserable life.

You say you are a military researcher.
-Show us who you are working for name the company.
-Proof here that your research has been publish and who is publishes your research
-Give us a reference so we can verify if you are truly a researcher.

The reason I ask this is because nothing you say here has ever proven to me that you are in a military field from, technical know how to general specifics shows me you are really clueless.

If you are who you claim to be I dare you to take me personally on when it comes to all technical aspects of aircraft and ground based defense systems in both Nigeria, SA or Angola Su-30. I will proof to you even without a Gripen in the air SANDF will still shoot down any Su-30 in our airspace.

I've asked you this on other sites.

ssaengine:
For the aviation enthusiasts....SAAF Gripen.
What he does at 05:29 looks so damn sexy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thUaVt5hcA8

agaugust:


You can start the I.D show by posting the data page with photo of your face, full name, house address etc.

Then tell us the name of your employer whom you work for, and post copy of your letter of employment as proof.

After that, I will respond, but for now, I have posted some photos and that is all I will do until you start the I.D. show.


You are one of the 20 South Africans that Augustine kicked around like a football on defenceweb recently, 20 VS 1 and you Southies still lost.

Yes I work in defence industry, as a military researcher in America. If any body thinks otherwise, feel free to challenge my comments on air, land, and sea warfare....even if you are a brigadier general, air marshal, vice admiral....I am ready for anybody'd challenge .


- Augustine
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agaugust:


Nope, $144 billion debt - $40 billion cash reserve = $104 billion debt unpaid forever !

South Africa CANNOT afford it's debt, it's killing the economy like slow poison, your great great great grand children will inherit your debt !
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agaugust:


Nope, your above source is NOT finance minister Okonjo Iweala, read her official report where she said people have been telling lies...

Nigeria's federal ministry of finance says Nigeria's current external debt is $6.67 billion or about $7 billion.

http://www.fmf.gov.ng/the-media/speeches/127-clarifying-nigerias-debt-position.html


South Africa is a debt slave owing white nations $ 144 billion, Europe owns your economy forever, you are trapped in their debt cage for life
.

agaugust:


Those are some of the shows that make up your 200 hours flight for Gripen fleet....you see half the time is for ceremonies.

Unarmed Gripen, flying over the head of clapping civilians, no combat opponent, no combat training....dropping flares for people to cheer.

SAAF = Ceremonial force.

6 Gripen pilots fly 10 to 20 hours per year....ZERO combat qualification

Thanks for proving my point with that ceremony video.

mzilakazi:



IT IS OFFICIAL YOUR DEBT STAND AT $63 BILLION AS AGREED UPON BY MINISTER LWEALA.

mzilakazi:



IT IS OFFICIAL YOUR DEBT STAND AT $63 BILLION AS AGREED UPON BY MINISTER LWEALA.

http://sunnewsonline.com/new/nigerias-external-debt-to-wbank-afdb-others-hit-n1-63trn/

Minister Okonj Iweala's name is NOT even mentioned in that your source , your source is quoting DMO and Minister Iweala works for FMF not DMO you dunce !

ddami:
dry boy,,, ITS FORMER MINISTER IWEALA,,, PUBLIC DEBT - $63B OWED BY STATES,, D MONEY STILL BELONGS TO NIGERIA,,, EXTERNAL DEBT - $9B OWED BY FG TO FOREIGNERS
You should know the difference BTW public&external debt.,,, you are actually forgetting how much you owe,, $144B

mzilakazi:



RECENTLY YOU LOANED $2.1 billion. WHAT ABOUT THAT ONE?

mzilakazi:



IT IS OFFICIAL YOUR DEBT STAND AT $63 BILLION AS AGREED UPON BY MINISTER LWEALA.

mzilakazi:



IT IS OFFICIAL YOUR DEBT STAND AT $63 BILLION AS AGREED UPON BY MINISTER LWEALA.

agaugust:


You failed comprehension in school, read your won source....

"External debt rose to $9.7 billion by the end of 2014 while domestic debt stood at $47.04 billion."

You mixed up domestic debt with external debt, the $63 billion is called total debt stock of domestic and external you fool !

Do you want us to add domestic debt to South Africa's $144 billion? It will tear off the roof top o !
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mzilakazi:



RECENTLY YOU LOANED $2.1 billion. WHAT ABOUT THAT ONE?