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Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by TheSonOfMark(m): 9:51am On Jul 26, 2015
safarigirl:
heightened curiosity should not lead to r-ape.

You cannot go to a court and defend ra-pist by citing the victim's dress code in a sane society. Only mad people do that

Nothing justifies rape, not even insanity 'cause a mad man/woman can recognize and feel physical pain.smiley

That opined, women deliberately induce the untoward advances. How many times haven't we heard women say they are dressing to "kill"? How many times haven't your girlfriends said something like , "girl, we gon' "kill" them today" infront of a full-length mirror?
How many times haven't you dressed in skimpy clothes for a party because you want to "steal" the show?

Need I go on? Don't play the sole victim here, missy.

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Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by Toks2008(m): 9:53am On Jul 26, 2015
adexsimply:

You sir, are the one with an "unfounded and childish theory". If you think "dressing modestly" will stop a sick r.apist from carrying out his sick act, then you're either not thinking deeply or you're just swimming in utter delusion.

Now you are getting it twisted.

Im not in anyway referring to rape because thats a totally different topic.

A rapist will rape a lady in full hijjab. What im implying is that skimpy dresses promotes lustful taughts simple.

Someone also made reference to india as the most prevalent in rape cases but i would re emphasize once more that the case of rape and skimpy dress do not correlate.

Rape is a crime that is commited by sex perverts but lustfulness cuts accross men in general and that is also a sin and that is the subject of dscussion.

a man with lustful spirit will still lust after a lady in full rain coat but when a lady dresses skimpily she will be causing even the pure hearted guys to lust after them.

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Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by TheSonOfMark(m): 9:59am On Jul 26, 2015
fairlyisabel:
Johnydon22 you re the best. Williamso I respect you. Safarigirl and co, you guys are wonderful. Women are really dying slowly. Women are really being murdered indirectly by these chauvinists in Nigeria especially here in nairaland. We are women. We are proud of who we are. Sexists should please allow us to be. We want to be free, alive and well respected like them too. This is not equality per se but to be given a sense of belonging.

If you dress like a sex object and you are treated as such, whose fault is it? The man's, yours or both's?
Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by Williamso(m): 10:06am On Jul 26, 2015
TheSonOfMark:

If you dress like a sex object and you are treated as such, whose fault is it? The man's, yours or both's?

If I pick your pocket because I saw the bulge made by your wallet, whose fault is it? Mine, yours or both of us?

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Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by Humblebloke(m): 10:14am On Jul 26, 2015
Williamso:


If I pick your pocket because I saw the bulge made by your wallet, whose fault is it? Mine, yours or both of us?


Perfect response


Religion has really caused humanity more harm than good...... It makes you think you have control over nothing

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Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by TheSonOfMark(m): 10:19am On Jul 26, 2015
Williamso:


If I pick your pocket because I saw the bulge made by your wallet, whose fault is it? Mine, yours or both of us?

Both. Mine for not being security conscious enough to realize we do not live in a perfect society and hence not hide my wad of cash well enough io a PUBLIC SPACE and yours for not controlling your kleptomaniac urges.smiley


Cc: Humblebloke
Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by TDcute1: 10:26am On Jul 26, 2015
Without bein biased, i wil say a few thingz. M a xtian,buh i wunt use biblical reference bcuz alot of us dnt get wat d bible is actuali teachin. . .

Wat d OP tried sayin haz 2 aspect,which is d Moral/Law n d Spiritual aspect.

D spiritual aspect dealz directly wif God,datz y d ladiez dat dresses indecently n scantily re said 2 b sinnin against God,
d same 4 we guyz dat bare chest n wear boxer shortz(m guilty of diz).
It is morally wrong bcuz of d society/communal ideaz/standardz about indecent dressin which leadz 2 vicez lyk Rape n co expeciali 2 d ladiez.

I read post n commentz of people supportin n detractin frm d OPz idea n point of view. . . .u re all ryt,no1 is wrong bcuz of various direction lotz re viewin it.

4 doz supportin d OP,diz is due 2 how much we hv gained spirituali n hw much we hv learnt frm d society concernin d diz sensitive issuez

4 doz detractin it,it cn b due 2 our viewpoint of d biased nature of our society especially towardz d female sex. . . .
We are all ryt. . . . .
But as a xtian, dressin modestly is d best way. . . .
Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by Williamso(m): 10:27am On Jul 26, 2015
TheSonOfMark:

Both. Mine for not being security conscious enough to realize we do not live in a perfect society and hence not hide my wad of cash well enough io a PUBLIC SPACE and yours for not controlling your kleptomaniac urges.smiley


Cc: Humblebloke

And if this was just a poser to you, without reference to your own post, you would have simply said it was me, the thief. Your reason for saying both now is to divert the heated response that would have followed. Job well done. Your "honest" response has been noted. smiley

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Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by herald9: 10:27am On Jul 26, 2015
Efeswerve:



becuz he waz molested az a child lipsrsealed dat tin messes up one's psyche we shud be more gentle wit him cry
lipsrsealed
Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by TDcute1: 10:28am On Jul 26, 2015
Plz dnt mind d multiple post, terrible network of mtn as usual
Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by uhalauju(f): 10:30am On Jul 26, 2015
johnydon22:
We have always being taught that women's body will cause men to commit sin.

We were told that if women showed too much of their body it would cause men to do stupid things.

Lets be clear: A woman's body is not dangerous to you, her body will not cause you harm, it will not make you do stupid things.

If you do stupid things it is because you choose to do stupid things.

Do not blame the women for wearing what works for them and what they want rather blame the men who do stupid things because they cannot hold themselves from being stupid




Am sooo impressed that Dis comment was made by a man.
Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by Humblebloke(m): 10:38am On Jul 26, 2015
TheSonOfMark:

Both. Mine for not being security conscious enough to realize we do not live in a perfect society and hence not hide my wad of cash well enough io a PUBLIC SPACE and yours for not controlling your kleptomaniac urges.smiley


Cc: Humblebloke


Seriously...... You are justifying (what could probably lead to violence)undecided
Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by abdulkayus(m): 10:42am On Jul 26, 2015
No matter how we try to twist it. Indecent dressing in wrong. Those countering the OP should think and check deep into their heart, they will see they are on the wrong side. All of you countering the OP will never all your sisters, daughters or wife to dress anyhow and go out. This is hypocrisy. Will u allow ir sisters to wear pant and bra and go to the market all in the name of it is her body.
Remember dress the way according to the way u want to be address.
Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by Eddlad: 10:43am On Jul 26, 2015
Humblebloke:



Perfect response


Religion has really caused humanity more harm than good...... It makes you think you have control over nothing

Get your facts right then you can distort them as you please,how exactly does the bible preach what u stated?
When Jesus was born Joseph had to run from pharaoh God could have easily caused pharaoh to like Jesus.This talks about taking responsibility and acting appropriatly with your physical faculties.Don't mmisinterprete the word.

Some people's comment in relation to the topic at hand makes me believe that there are indeed different people with views and opinions but wisdom is seriously lacking.
Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by Nobody: 10:50am On Jul 26, 2015
[b]What God is Primarily interested in is MOTIVE! What is the motive behind the provocative dressing of some ladies? Is it that it is the fashion norm or they just do not care or they wish to be the centre of attention and interest. We sometimes do not know the motive behind the actions of women so are limited with that info.

However in order to avoid stuff like that Paul put a clause in 1st Corinthians 8 reading from verse 9. Please Note verse 9:

9 Be careful, however, that the exercise of your rights does not become a stumbling block to the weak. 10 For if someone with a weak conscience sees you, with all your knowledge, eating in an idol’s temple, won’t that person be emboldened to eat what is sacrificed to idols? 11 So this weak brother or sister, for whom Christ died, is destroyed by your knowledge. 12 When you sin against them in this way and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. 13 Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother or sister to fall into sin, I will never eat meat again, so that I will not cause them to fall.


We need to be careful and avoid what would lead others who are weak to sin because then the blame would be on the one who caused the other to sin because the sinner is weak but this is to those who have knowledge of what is right yet say "i have a right to dress the way i please" like a poster said but you need to realize that as a believer you have no rights! Your rights are now in Christ because you have been bought with a price and are no longer your own. If you have rights then they must be one with the will of God period!

Modesty is the word. The truth is that dressing seductively or half unclad is more provocative when coming from women than it is with men. men are easily drawn to the externals than women are. unclothedness is meant to be appreciated by one person alone and thats a husband or a wife. Anybody who says women can dress the way they are comfortable and men should just look the other way is still in darkness and for men who are still drawn to lust and are believers go and work on your spiritual life and become stronger...Better yet go and get married and ask your wife to dress as provocative as you desire for you behind closed doors and love her alone.

God bless you


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Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by Humblebloke(m): 10:54am On Jul 26, 2015
Eddlad:


Get your facts right then you can distort them as you please,how exactly does the bible preach what u stated?
When Jesus was born Joseph had to run from pharaoh God could have easily caused pharaoh to like Jesus.This talks about taking responsibility and acting appropriatly with your physical faculties.Don't mmisinterprete the word.

Some people's comment in relation to the topic at hand makes me believe that there are indeed different people with views and opinions but wisdom is seriously lacking.

Perhaps... I will comprehend if you stop the spirit writing, Cos' your post seriously lacks wisdom

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Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by segebobo: 10:54am On Jul 26, 2015
johnydon22:
We have always being taught that women's body will cause men to commit sin.

We were told that if women showed too much of their body it would cause men to do stupid things.

Lets be clear: A woman's body is not dangerous to you, her body will not cause you harm, it will not make you do stupid things.

If you do stupid things it is because you choose to do stupid things.

Do not blame the women for wearing what works for them and what they want rather blame the men who do stupid things because they cannot hold themselves from being stupid

This is akin to saying you can drop your wad of money on a centre table of a hall full of people unattended to and not expect it to be stolen.
In as much as I don't justify rape under whatsoever guise, women are enjoined to dress properly in such a way that they won't attract and expose themselves to rapists
**Thats wisdom**

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Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by olayinka63: 10:56am On Jul 26, 2015
ayodejisure:
Dressing in such a way as to stimulate impure thoughts or desires in others is as wrong as the lust it provokes. No activity or circumstance justifies the wearing of immodest attire that would expose the body in such a way as to stimulate lust in someone else. (Gal 5:13, Eph 4:27, Titus 2:11-12).

The fashion industry designs some clothing deliberately to accentuate the body sensually and sexually. It is sad that church has ignores the biblical standard for modesty dress and embraces the fashion fads of the world even though they are sensually designed.

The CHURCH (Christians) should act and dress differently from a corrupt society that throws aside and ridicules the Spirit's desire for modesty, purity and godly restraint. Rom 12:1-2. Please share with young men and ladies and let's honour God. U re Blessed


but why is this skimpy dress and short skirts are allowed in some churches especially winners chapel . please direct your sermon to the pastors of those churches

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Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by markidoo(m): 11:11am On Jul 26, 2015
My head n eye be like decoder,channels too plenty if na ur Channel O show,me go watch am.
Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by Nobody: 11:16am On Jul 26, 2015
Wow!
Here we are again, Some Nigerian "Christian" men.
Using the bible to cover their uncontrollable seexual urge.Perverts!

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Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by hibroDon1(m): 11:20am On Jul 26, 2015
johnydon22:
We have always being taught that women's body will cause men to commit sin.

We were told that if women showed too much of their body it would cause men to do stupid things.

Lets be clear: A woman's body is not dangerous to you, her body will not cause you harm, it will not make you do stupid things.

If you do stupid things it is because you choose to do stupid things.

Do not blame the women for wearing what works for them and what they want rather blame the men who do stupid things because they cannot hold themselves from being stupid
impotent man u b:p
Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by Nobody: 11:20am On Jul 26, 2015
Williamso:


If I pick your pocket because I saw the bulge made by your wallet, whose fault is it? Mine, yours or both of us?

Lmao. cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

You know one very funny thing about nigerian guys, they always play the victim. Seriously, guys needs to quit moving around with boxers and no shirts in public! We have CLITS as well!Body no be firewood for man and woman!

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Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by freecocoa(f): 11:23am On Jul 26, 2015
Most Naija men are just blawdy chauvinists, just see how they reason.

Like you people were even supposed to be clothed according to your bible in the first place, you all had better learnt self control for your own good, that's why it's hard for you stup1d lots to live in civilised countries, always ending up in jails, mschew.

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Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by SAMBARRY: 11:23am On Jul 26, 2015
You seem not to understand sarcasm wink



I'm having a great time tho wink
menesheh:


Why.

Ohh you feel they don't have sexual explicit feeling. They do. The problem was the long age marginalization and discrimination against women, then they tends to succumb instead of responsing actively to sexual impulses like men. They always surprise men whenever the act begins, informing men that they are more sexually active than them but always have to suppress it because of millenia of men's subjugation.

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Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by simplisity(m): 11:27am On Jul 26, 2015
I know that most times men absolve of their immoral attitude by putting all blames to women, but not withstand, we stil have concience to be able to know wat is good or bad and also sense of sanity to know wat is decent or not. It seems alot of women hav failed to wk wit der concience and have entirely lost their sense of sanity wen it comes to fashion and d way dey dress dis days, both married and single. Indoor wears r now made for church and other places. Satan is realy usin women throu their indecency to pull down men nowadays, both old and young, even some ministers of God. That we shld use our will power, does not mean that women shld expose their body that r made to be covered to men to behold. God did made a mistake by coverin Adam and Eve, women shld equally go naked entirely so we will know that nothin remain. U shld be a vessel of honour unto God and men. Change ur mentality, and dress decently for once, althou not all women.

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Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by fairlyisabel(f): 11:30am On Jul 26, 2015
TheSonOfMark:

If you dress like a sex object and you are treated as such, whose fault is it? The man's, yours or both's?
define a sex object. And please for your information, am not really trying to contest against this particular thread. My take in this is why is it always women. Why us? I can count like five threads since last week that has been centered on women. What is it with you sexists that you cannot leave us alone? You can choose to be a gay if you are not comfortable with our way of behaviour. Let us be respected too. Let us be in charge of our lives too. Are we asking for too much? For christ sake we are not slaves.

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Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by Nobody: 11:33am On Jul 26, 2015
FrancisTony:


Most rape cases occur in a rural area, and go figure how village girls dress.
.

What's the source of this statistics?
Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by Nobody: 11:34am On Jul 26, 2015
freecocoa:
Most Naija men are just blawdy chauvinists, just see how they reason.

Like you people were even supposed to be clothed according to your bible in the first place, you all had better learnt self control for your own good, that's why it's hard for you stup1d lots to live in civilised countries, always ending up in jails, mschew.

Civilized countries like the one that just legalized gay marriages right? You need to think straight because you obviously are not.

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Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by freecocoa(f): 11:38am On Jul 26, 2015
naijadeyhia:


Civilized countries like the one that just legalized gay marriages right? You need to think straight because you obviously are not.
And what's wrong with gay people? Is it your bum they use in their affairs? Why does it bother you? Abeg face front and mind your business.

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Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by Nobody: 11:41am On Jul 26, 2015
freecocoa:
And what's wrong with gay people? Is it your bum they use in their affairs? Why does it bother you? Abeg face front and mind your business.

You symbolize everything that is wrong with society today. You see the truth but deny it. So nothing is wrong with gay people? Your words have shown us all how you are and whom you are. Case closed

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Re: See Why You Must Avoid Immodest Attire by freecocoa(f): 11:45am On Jul 26, 2015
naijadeyhia:


You symbolize everything that is wrong with society today. You see the truth but deny it. So nothing is wrong with gay people? Your words have shown us all how you are and whom you are. Case closed
Ode.
Close mindedness is a very deadly disease, the religion you carry on your head which is against homosexuality, was handed down to you by the same people you claim is responsible for all the wrong in the world, yet you won't see that.

Whatever the story with homosexuals, was a fault of your God, deal with it.

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