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| Who Was The Most Violent Prophet In History? by truthman2013: 4:11pm On Jul 31, 2015 |
..Most readers will immediately assume it was the Prophet Muhammad, thanks to a decades long wave of Islamophobia and a sustained campaign of anti-Muslim propaganda. But here’s a tip: it wasn’t Muhammad. Not by a long shot. In fact, Moses had Muhammad beat by far.. But it wasn’t even Moses. In fact, it was Joshua–a Jewish prophet of Israel. Today, he is regarded by Jews as “a mighty warrior” of the faith, a victorious hero, and a righteous prophet after Moses: According to the bible, the job of genocide was divinely passed on from Moses to his successor, Joshua. Joshua sought to complete the task that Moses had left undone. It is recorded in the Bible, that God Himself commanded Joshua to finish the genocide of the natives living on the other side of the Jordan River: Joshua 1-6. The city of Jericho stood between Joshua and the land he was to conquer. As one city after another fell to the sword of Judaism, the people of Jericho feared for their fate. Would they too be subjected to ethnic cleansing? One of the natives of the city, a woman by the name of Rahab, was so fearful of the wild-eyed massacres that the God-chosen people were known for that she said: Joshua 2:9-19. In other words, every living thing in that city—except what was in her house—was to be utterly destroyed. The entire city was to be smitten as a sacrifice to the Lord: Joshua 6:17 [color=green] The city and all that is in it are to be devoted to the Lord. Only Rahab the prostitute and all who are with her in her house shall be spared, because she hid the spies we sent. To their credit, the Israelite invaders fulfilled their promise, sparing those in Rahab’s house. They did, however, kill everyone else, women and children included: Joshua 6:21 They devoted the city to the Lord and utterly destroyed with the sword every living thing in it—men and women, young and old , cattle, sheep and donkeys. However, the silver, gold, bronze, and iron were taken as plunder: 6:19 But all the silver and gold and the articles of bronze and iron are sacred to the Lord, and must go into his treasury. And the city was razed to the ground: 6:24 Then they burned the whole city and everything in it , but they put the silver and gold and the articles of bronze and iron into the treasury of the Lord’s house. After “utterly destroying” Jericho, Joshua and the believers turned their attention to the city of Ai: 8:1 Then the Lord said to Joshua, “Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged. Take the whole army with you, and go up and attack Ai. For I have delivered into your hands the kings of Ai,his people, his city and his land. 8:2 You shall do to Ai and its king as you did to Jericho and its king, except that you may carry off their plunder and livestock for yourselves. Set an ambush behind the city.” 8:3 So Joshua and the whole army moved out to attack Ai. He chose thirty thousand of his best fighting men and sent them out at night 8:4 with these orders: “Listen carefully. You are to set an ambush behind the city…” Joshua continued: 8:7 “You are to rise up from ambush and take the city. The Lord your God will give it into your hand. 8:8 “When you have taken the city, set it on fire. Do what your Lord has commanded. See to it! You have my orders.” As per their orders from God and his prophet, the city was razed: 8:19 They entered the city and captured it and quickly set it on fire. When the men of Ai fought back, they were decimated by Israel: 8:22 Israel cut them down, leaving them neither survivors nor fugitives. After cutting down the soldiers, the Israelites entered the city to kill off all the civilians (twelve thousand men and women altogether): 8:24 When Israel had finished killing all the men of Ai in the fields and the in the wilderness where they had chased them, and when every one of them had been put to the sword, all the Israelites returned to Ai and killed those who were in it. 8:25 Twelve thousand men and women were put to death that day—all the people of Ai. 8:26 For Joshua did not draw back the hand that held out his javelin until he had destroyed all who lived in Ai. 8:27 But Israel did carry off for themselves the livestock and plunder of this city, as the Lord had instructed Joshua. 8:28 So Joshua burned Ai and made it a permanent heap of ruins, a desolate place to this day. The king’s body was then mutilated: 8:29 [Joshua] impaled the body of the king of Ai on a pole and left it there until evening. At sunset, Joshua ordered them to take the body from the pole and throw it down at the entrance of the city gate. And then the believers built a triumphal synagogue: 8:30 Then Joshua built on Mount Ebal, an altar to the Lord, the God of Israel. Terror and fear of the genocidal wrath of the believers spread far and wide, just as the God of the Bible promised. One such people who were struck with dread were the people of Gibeon, who offered themselves up as slaves in exchange for their lives. The Gibeonites said to Joshua: 9:24 “We feared for our lives because of you, and that is why we did this.” Joshua had thus destroyed Jericho and Ai, and neutralized Gibeon. The neighboring five Amorite kingdoms became aware that the Israelites were headed for them next, and formed a coalition to defend themselves. However, the Amorite coalition was soundly defeated by the Israelite army, and the five Amorite kings fled to a cave in Makkedah. The Israelites captured the kings and Joshua had them humiliated and executed: 10:24 When they had brought these kings to Joshua, he summoned all the men of Israel and said to the army commanders who had come with him, “Come here and put your feet on the necks of these kings.” So they came forward and placed their feet on their necks. 10:25 Joshua said to them, “Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged. Be strong and courageous. [b] This is what the Lord will do to all the enemies you are going to fight.” 10:26 Then Joshua struck and killed the kings and hung them on five trees, and they were left hanging on the trees until evening. 10:27 At sunset Joshua gave the order and they took them down from the trees and threw them into the cave where they had been hiding. The Israelite vengeance was also savaged upon Makkedah (the city where the five kings had fled to), which was ethnically cleansed: 10:28 That same day Joshua captured and destroyed the town of Makkedah. He killed everyone in it, including the king, leaving no survivors. He destroyed them all. The Israelite army then did the same to the southern cities, putting all to the sword—men, women, and children. First, the city of Libnah: 10:30 The city [of Libnah] and everyone in it Joshua put to the sword. He left no survivors there. Then Lachish: 10:32 The Lord handed Lachish over to Israel, and Joshua took it on the second day . The city and everyone in it he put to the sword, just as he had done to Libnah. Then Eglon: 10:35 They captured [Eglon] that same day and put it to the sword and totally destroyed everyone in it , just as they had done to Lachish. Then Hebron: 10:37 They took the city and put it to the sword, together with its king, its villages and everyone in it. They left no survivors. Just as at Eglon, they totally destroyed it and everyone in it. Then Debir: 10:39 They took the city, its king and its villages, and put them to the sword. Everyone in it they totally destroyed. They left no survivors. The killing was thorough and complete: 10:40 So Joshua subdued the whole region, including the hill country, the Negev, the western foothills and the mountain slopes, together with all their kings. He left no survivors. He totally destroyed all who breathed, just as the Lord, the God of Israel, had commanded. 10:41 Joshua subdued them from Kadesh Barnea to Gaza and from the whole region of Goshen to Gibeon. 10:42 All these kings and their lands Joshua conquered in one campaign, because the Lord, the God of Israel, fought for Israel. After the decimation of the southern cities, the northern cities banded together to fight off Israel. The Israelites responded in the familiar way—killing every man, woman, and child: 11:11-15 The Israelites completely destroyed every living thing in the city, leaving no survivors. Not a single person was spared. And then Joshua burned the city. Joshua slaughtered all the other kings and their people, completely destroying them, just as Moses, the servant of the LORD, had commanded. But the Israelites did not burn any of the towns built on mounds except Hazor, which Joshua burned. And the Israelites took all the plunder and livestock of the ravaged towns for themselves. But they killed all the people, leaving no survivors. As the LORD had commanded his servant Moses, so Moses commanded Joshua. And Joshua did as he was told, carefully obeying all the commands that the LORD had given to Moses. Joshua then utterly destroyed the Anakites: 11:21-23 During this period Joshua destroyed all the Anakites… He killed them all and completely destroyed their towns. No Anakites were left in Israelite territory; only in Gaza, Gath and Ashdod did any survive. So Joshua took the entire land, just as the LORD had directed Moses , and he gave it as an inheritance to Israel… By this time, Joshua was on his deathbed and gave parting instructions to his people. He promised them that they would drive out the survivors from amongst the vanquished nations and usurp their land: Joshua 23:1-5 And so died Joshua, the most violent prophet in all of history. ..truthman.. [/color] 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Who Was The Most Violent Prophet In History? by Nobody: 4:18pm On Jul 31, 2015 |
Abeg stop your al taqquiya Joshua was never referred to as a prophet in the bible and even then his violence pales in significance to that your paedophile wannabe prophet.  |
| Re: Who Was The Most Violent Prophet In History? by truthman2013: 4:33pm On Jul 31, 2015 |
Jagoon: http://www.jewfaq.org/m/prophet.htm ..truthman.. 2 Likes |
| Re: Who Was The Most Violent Prophet In History? by Nobody: 4:54pm On Jul 31, 2015 |
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| Re: Who Was The Most Violent Prophet In History? by Nobody: 5:00pm On Jul 31, 2015 |
truthman2013: Don't give me a link that is stating someone's opinion, quote a bible verse that refers to Joshua as a prophet. |
| Re: Who Was The Most Violent Prophet In History? by Scholar8200(m): 5:04pm On Jul 31, 2015 |
It's good to have a balanced view of history. God judged Sodom and Gomorrah by the hand of two angels sent; God also judged those nations by the hand of Joshua (when the cup of iniquity was full and warnings had been scorned) for this reason: Deuteronomy 18:13 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord: and because of these abominations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee. But when Israel fell to the same abomination and scorned God's warning, this is what happened: 2 Chronicles 36:16-20 but they (Israelites) mocked the messengers of God, and despised his words, and misused his prophets, until the wrath of the Lord arose against his people, till there was no remedy. 17 Therefore he brought upon them the king of the Chaldees, who slew their young men with the sword in the house of their sanctuary, and had no compassion upon young man or maiden, old man, or him that stooped for age: he gave them all into his hand. 18 And all the vessels of the house of God, great and small, and the treasures of the house of the Lord, and the treasures of the king, and of his princes; all these he brought to Babylon. 19 And they burnt the house of God, and brake down the wall of Jerusalem, and burnt all the palaces thereof with fire, and destroyed all the goodly vessels thereof. 20 And them that had escaped from the sword carried he away to Babylon; where they were servants to him and his sons until the reign of the kingdom of Persia: God judged Israel too by the hand of Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon! Neither Joshua nor Babylon were in the process of spreading a religion; God the Righteous Judge chose to execute His judgement when the time was ripe and warnings had being ignored. He could have sent Angels or the elements but the final decision rests with Him. 1 Like |
| Re: Who Was The Most Violent Prophet In History? by truthman2013: 11:06am On Aug 01, 2015 |
Jagoon: ...well, in judaism, he is believed to be a prophet of yhwh. Therefore your opinion doesn't count. Btw, did Joshua acted on his own? was he not following the command of yhwh? 2 Likes |
| Re: Who Was The Most Violent Prophet In History? by Nobody: 11:13am On Aug 01, 2015 |
truthman2013: Quote the judaism text that calls him a prophet or admit to committing al taqquiya. |
| Re: Who Was The Most Violent Prophet In History? by truthman2013: 11:14am On Aug 01, 2015 |
Scholar8200: ...ermm! Sir, the thread is about the most violent prophet of all time, not about whether their actions are justified or not. Thats a topic for another day. God the Righteous Judge chose to execute His judgement when the time was ripe and warnings had being ignored. He could have sent Angels or the elements but the final decision rests with Him. ..Tis' ^ will serve as reference. ..truthman .. 2 Likes |
| Re: Who Was The Most Violent Prophet In History? by truthman2013: 11:20am On Aug 01, 2015 |
Jagoon: Ex. 17:9 - 14, 24:13, 32:17 - 18, 33:11; Num. 11:28 - 29, 13:4 - 14:38; 27:18 - 27:23, Deut. 1:38, 3:28, 31:3, 31:7 -Joshua 24:29. Will you now answer my question  ..truthman.. 2 Likes |
| Re: Who Was The Most Violent Prophet In History? by Nobody: 12:03pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
truthman2013: Non of these verses calls him a prophet, try again al taqquiya expert. |
| Re: Who Was The Most Violent Prophet In History? by truthman2012(m): 12:20pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
faketruthman2013: Joshua was NOT said to be a prophet. He led the nation of Israel in war. It was a war between nations and not religious groups to force them to accept Judaism. The story is descriptive and not prescriptive i.e it was not prescribed for anybody to continue. For muslims, war is a prescription as long as islam exists. Quran (2:216) - " Fighting is PRISCRIBED for you , and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not. Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast TERROR into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". ISLAMIC TERRORISM! Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward. 2 Likes |
| Re: Who Was The Most Violent Prophet In History? by jcross19: 2:10pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
The counterfeit truthman2013, get the fact before you started posting foolishness. This is my first time they are calling joshua a prophet coming from confused islamic jihadist. If you don't have any point to belittle the living God;remain silent forever. 3 Likes |
| Re: Who Was The Most Violent Prophet In History? by truthman2013: 6:40am On Aug 02, 2015 |
Jagoon: jcross19: truthman2012 ..I think you guys needs to start using your brain for what it is mean for. First lets check the meaning of prophet according to the dictionary: prophet /ˈprɒfɪt/ noun 1. a person regarded as an inspired teacher or proclaimer of the will of God. Is joshua under this^ category or not?? Secondly, Judaism considered him to be a prophet according to the definition of prophet on this jewish site: " A prophet is basically a spokesman for G-d , a person chosen by G-d to speak to people on G-d's behalf and convey a message or teaching. Prophets were role models of holiness, scholarship and closeness to G-d. They set the standards for the entire community. He was, thus, listed among the biblical prophet. http://www.jewfaq.org/m/prophet.htm Also, according to this christian website: "In a general sense, a prophet is a person who speaks God’s truth to others." Joshua is considered a prophet as well " Joshua and many of the judges served as prophets, with the last judge, Samuel, hearing the voice of God as a young boy (1 Samuel 3:4 ). Even David is a prophet " He would later anoint David, who served as both king and prophet in Israel. http://www.gotquestions.org/prophet-Bible.html So, I will now direct the question back to you too. What is/arw you objections to the two explanations above? Who is a prophet according to your own teaching? ..truthman.. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Who Was The Most Violent Prophet In History? by truthman2013: 6:46am On Aug 02, 2015 |
truthman2012: What led to the war? Was it commanded by yhwh or not? Was it a religious war or not? 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Who Was The Most Violent Prophet In History? by truthman2013: 7:01am On Aug 02, 2015 |
truthman2012: This is another descriptive verse of the Quran. You can't just snip out verse without understand its context. The intolerance and persecution of the Pagan clique at Mecca caused untold hardships to the holy Messenger of Islam and his early disciples. They bore all with meekness and long-suffering patience until the holy one permitted them to take up arms in self-defence… Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We I cant just continue repeating myself. All these are descriptive war. I can as well snip out verses of the bible. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Who Was The Most Violent Prophet In History? by ZKOSOSO(m): 7:06am On Aug 02, 2015 |
Pls don't provoke prophet MohamMAD anyday. Don't take away his most cherish award from him pls. The fact that he can no longer kill infidels does not mean he should be embarrassed. All hail the most deadly prophet known to mankind, most promiscuous prophet ever, the originator of al taqiya, the landlord of sex-party paradise, the first muslim. 1 Like |
| Re: Who Was The Most Violent Prophet In History? by jcross19: 7:08am On Aug 02, 2015 |
truthman2013:oga you are the one to use your brain sir.!!!! Who did he prophesy to? if that's the meaning of prophet then buhari is a prophet in islamic interpretation of prophet.. Even daniel bible don't recognised him as a prophet. |
| Re: Who Was The Most Violent Prophet In History? by truthman2013: 7:23am On Aug 02, 2015 |
jcross19: You are expected to counter my post by telling me that those 2 links I provided ( both jew and christian) are saying rubbish. So in essence, are you trying to say that people who call prophesy are the only one called prophet? Please provide your explanation for this. Even daniel bible don't recognised him as a prophet. ...yes. Daniel according to the jew was not a prophet because he did not speak to the people. ..truthman.. 2 Likes |
| Re: Who Was The Most Violent Prophet In History? by Nobody: 7:48am On Aug 02, 2015 |
jcross19: Don't mind him, it is his islamic duty to use al taqquiya when relating to kaffirs |
| Re: Who Was The Most Violent Prophet In History? by truthman2013: 10:21pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
Jagoon: Speak for yourself, man. Don't hide behind him. ..truthman.. 1 Like |
| Re: Who Was The Most Violent Prophet In History? by abduljabbar4(m): 2:21am On Aug 05, 2015 |
Truthman2013 single handedly silenced the stup!d liars. May Allah reward you my brother 3 Likes |
| Re: Who Was The Most Violent Prophet In History? by truthman2013: 10:04am On Feb 04, 2016 |
abduljabbar4: Aamen 1 Like |
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