Nature129:


Why do you people care so much about universities when those who have graduated are busy roaming the streets of other states looking for jobs? Personally, I feel that building universities without building enough industries to absorb graduates means creating problem for ourselves and indeed Nigeria. Everyone must not go to university. Whatever happened to technical and vocational schools?

On the other hand, no matter what anyone thinks about imo being surrounded by Aba and Onitsha, I think it's important Imo builds her own industries not necessarily in Owerri but Okigwe or Orlu to create jobs for Ndi Imo and other Igbos. And who says we can't combine tourism and industries? Yes, we can because Lagos is a good example.

I just feel bad that S/East governors don't plan together. Why do we have to await federal govt to revive the coal in Enugu when we know that doing so as a people would create lots jobs for the Igbos? I think the governors can get a license (if that is necessary) from FG, pool their resources together, sign an MoU on how the revenue generated from coal can be shared, how the state indigenes will be employed, how much each state should gets, and what electricity if it will be used for power generation.

unless fg gives Enugu the permission to explore the coal within Enugu then Enugu cant do shit so your talk about all se govts pulling all the resources to fund coal explorations is moot...there is a reason for the clamour for restructuring the country from what is obtainable.now to what federalism is supposed to be..i hope you know about exclusive list under the authority of FG?

asha80:
unless fg gives Enugu the permission to explore the coal within Enugu then Enugu cant do shit so your talk about all se govts pulling all the resources to fund coal explorations is moot...there is a reason for the clamour for restructuring the country from what is obtainable.now to what federalism is supposed to be..i hope you know about exclusive list under the authority of FG?

I raised 3 issues and you are reacting to just ONE, besides I gave a condition to that one *if that is necessary*

Nature129:


I raised 3 issues and you are reacting to just ONE, besides I gave a condition to that one *if that is necessary*

I reacted to the one I know you might not be privy to otherwise you would not have made it...the other two I have made my comments on them long ago and views are known here if you are a frequent visitor

RareDiamond:
Is this not the Ahiajioku center under construction in New Owerri ? If yes why do you show it as Owerri Chamber of Commerce Building ?

There was a change of purpose clause. You can see its wearing a different look.

http://dailyindependentnig.com/2014/07/okorocha-dedicates-ahiajoku-convention-centre-imo-chamber-commerce/

Governor Rochas Okorocha of Imo State has re - modified the
Ahiajoku convention centre in the state to serve as the Imo
Chamber of Commerce , Trade and Industry.
Briefing newsmen while on inspection of the project ,
Okorocha said the decision followed the growing need to
harness the rich economic potentials of the State in the
areas of commerce , trade and industry as well as to provide
a more condusive business environment for both local and
foreign investors in the State .

asha80:
unless fg gives Enugu the permission to explore the coal within Enugu then Enugu cant do shit so your talk about all se govts pulling all the resources to fund coal explorations is moot...there is a reason for the clamour for restructuring the country from what is obtainable.now to what federalism is supposed to be..i hope you know about exclusive list under the authority of FG?

Aba that was given to Barth Nnaji, was it not same Igbos that tried to frustrate its take off? Our problem is lying to ourselves about simple issues.

abagoro:


Aba that was given to Barth Nnaji, was it not same Igbos that tried to frustrate its take off? Our problem is lying to ourselves about simple issues.

^^^Leave Igbos out of it....he had a problem with a business rival!

abagoro:


Aba that was given to Barth Nnaji, was it not same Igbos that tried to frustrate its take off? Our problem is lying to ourselves about simple issues.

Your anti-Igbo positions stink to high heavens. How did any Igbo frustrate Nnaji?


Note: OBJ was able to become president of Nigeria without support from the SW becos retired military generals from the north wanted him or no body from the south. Things have changed. A winner must begin from the home turf.

abagoro:


True but most people view things differently. I earlier thought Igbos were together, hence my suggestion for Enugu as a place for corporate headquaters of Igbo owned companies with highrises, Owerri headquaters of tourism and relaxation while Aba, Onitsha and Nnewi maintain their commercial and industrial status.

However your fellow Igbos from Anambra started attacking other Igbos thereby prompting every State to be independent of the other. We can no longer work in synergy as Igbos which means we will all end up as jack of all thread and master of none.

Your a chronic lair, no state in Igboland is independent, we are rather inter-dependent on one another to survive.
your anti Igbo agenda here will always meet brick walls because Igbos are working together like never before, Tonimas in Abia, Orange Drugs in Anambra , Innoson and Ibeto in Enugu and Ebony, Nnaji in Abia.

Stella Oduah was instrumental in making AIIA Enugu a reality while Peter Obi protested when airlines stopped using it to airlift pilgrims, Aba and Onitsha have started exploring the Eastern Corridors for economic and business expansion and integration.

www.punchng.com/news/obi-protests-non-use-of-enugu-airport-for-pilgrimage/

businessdayonline.com/2014/11/onitsha-businesses-look-to-aba-for-south-east-corridor-expansion/#.Vb8z_-tw17o

www.bullsnbearsng.com/2014/11/onitsha-businesses-look-to-aba-for.html?m=1


Tell another lies how Igbos are not working together again let me bust it you.

NOTE: Ndi Imo anybody that is following abagworo to fight Anambra people should look deeper for a proper soul searching before the guy plunge us into mess.

I can see he is here to infiltrate our congregation and many people are buying into his charade.

My brother we are all inter-dependent on each other. The Igbo Vs Anambra division in nairaland was sown, nourished and developed by anti Igbo supremacists like Chino and Odenigbo who move from Imo, Enugu, Abia, Ebonyi propagating their m0ronic attributes; even anioma Igbos like Onenaira, Igboboy and many others have been made to avoid Igbo threads due to very unkind words from Chino.

Abagworo also have a fair share of the blame because of his unwarranted poke nosing into issues that does not concern him and his unintelligent use of the word "IGBOTIC". His tendency to make false controversial comments that undermines the pride of the Igbo nation is also a minus. BUT WHEN YOU COMPARE HIM WITH CHINO AND ODENIGBO, YOU WOULD SEE THAT HE IS A LESSER EVIL AND HAS CAUSED LESS DAMAGE TO IGBO UNITY THAN CHINO AND ODENIGBO, IF TRUTH BE TOLD.

AnambraDota:


Your a chronic lair, no state in Igboland is independent, we are rather inter-dependent on one another to survive.
your anti Igbo agenda here will always meet brick walls because Igbos are working together like never before, Tonimas in Abia, Orange Drugs in Anambra , Innoson and Ibeto in Enugu and Ebony, Nnaji in Abia.

Stella Oduah was instrumental in making AIIA Enugu a reality while Peter Obi protested when airlines stopped using it to airlift pilgrims, Aba and Onitsha have started exploring the Eastern Corridors for economic and business expansion and integration.

www.punchng.com/news/obi-protests-non-use-of-enugu-airport-for-pilgrimage/

businessdayonline.com/2014/11/onitsha-businesses-look-to-aba-for-south-east-corridor-expansion/#.Vb8z_-tw17o

www.bullsnbearsng.com/2014/11/onitsha-businesses-look-to-aba-for.html?m=1


Tell another lies how Igbos are not working together again let me bust it you.

NOTE: Ndi Imo anybody that is following abagworo to fight Anambra people should look deeper for a proper soul searching before the guy plunge us into mess.

I can see he is here to infiltrate our congregation and many people are buying into his charade.

Deaddiamond you are a foolish clown. Abagoro is the architect and initiator of the whole bad blood amongst igbos on NL but I am ever ready for him in whatever way to dig it at any level or height. Picture for picture, word for word. No retreat, no surrender!

I have never come to the imo thread uninvited and I will keep coming each time I am invited.

SLAVES


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RareDiamond:
My brother we are all inter-dependent on each other. The Igbo Vs Anambra division in nairaland was sown, nourished and developed by anti Igbo supremacists like Chino and Odenigbo who move from Imo, Enugu, Abia, Ebonyi propagating their m0ronic attributes; even anioma Igbos like Onenaira, Igboboy and many others have been made to avoid Igbo threads due to very unkind words from Chino.

Abagworo also have a fair share of the blame because of his unwarranted poke nosing into issues that does not concern him and his unintelligent use of the word "IGBOTIC". His tendency to make false controversial comments that undermines the pride of the Igbo nation is also a minus. BUT WHEN YOU COMPARE HIM WITH CHINO AND ODENIGBO, YOU WOULD SEE THAT HE IS A LESSER EVIL AND HAS CAUSED LESS DAMAGE TO IGBO UNITY THAN CHINO AND ODENIGBO, IF TRUTH BE TOLD.

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You comments are absolutely useless and without any effect. You are the chief attacker of Igbo unity. Nonsence human being like you.

chinology:
Deaddiamond you are a foolish clown. Abagoro is the architect and initiator of the whole bad blood amongst igbos on NL but I am ever ready for him in whatever way to dig it at any level or height. Picture for picture, word for word. No retreat, no surrender!

I have never come to the imo thread uninvited and I will keep coming each time I am invited.

SLAVES


[s][/s]

The same reason I called you a fool

RareDiamond:
You comments are absolutely useless and without any effect. You are the chief attacker of Igbo unity. Nonsence human being like you.

Your comments are absolutely useless and without any effect. You are the chief attacker of Igbo unity. Nonsence human being like you. Stuborn He goat.

chinology:
The same reason I called you a fool

Deaddiamond have you eaten today?

RareDiamond:
Your comments are absolutely useless and without any effect. You are the chief attacker of Igbo unity. Nonsence human being like you. Stuborn He goat.

Mor0nic internet warrior without self respect

chinology:
Deaddiamond have you eaten today?

Deaddiamond have you eaten today? Your tantrum is weak that was why I asked if you have eaten today. Silly internet loafer. LOL

RareDiamond:
Mor0nic internet warrior without self respect

He-goat your words are useless.

chinology:
Deaddiamond have you eaten today? Your tantrum is weak that was why I asked if you have eaten today. Silly internet loafer. LOL

Deaddiamond the silly fool.

RareDiamond:
He-goat your words are useless.

Nature129:


Why do you people care so much about universities when those who have graduated are busy roaming the streets of other states looking for jobs? Personally, I feel that building universities without building enough industries to absorb graduates means creating problem for ourselves and indeed Nigeria. Everyone must not go to university. Whatever happened to technical and vocational schools?

On the other hand, no matter what anyone thinks about imo being surrounded by Aba and Onitsha, I think it's important Imo builds her own industries not necessarily in Owerri but Okigwe or Orlu to create jobs for Ndi Imo and other Igbos. And who says we can't combine tourism and industries? Yes, we can because Lagos is a good example.

I just feel bad that S/East governors don't plan together. Why do we have to await federal govt to revive the coal in Enugu when we know that doing so as a people would create lots jobs for the Igbos? I think the governors can get a license (if that is necessary) from FG, pool their resources together, sign an MoU on how the revenue generated from coal can be shared, how the state indigenes will be employed, and how much power each state gets if the coal would be used for electricity generation.

I have said it times without number that Okorocha's free education is a waste of money. To be rich you don't have to go the university. Basic and sound education from primary to secondary is enough. Education is different from schooling! Technical n entrepreneurial training is far more better.

Industrialization is very important. It is not something utopian. Look at Singapore nd Taiwan. The problem is that unintelligent people govern us. What prevents Imo state government from building small scale refineries. It can then buy products from Nnpc refine and sell to its citizens. What about floating a company in the states name. It can even own properties and investments outside the state. The money Europe enjoys today was made from Africa. Our leaders are clowns. They only pursue populist policies which are usually useless. We need visionary people like Mbakwe.

Nature129:


Why do you people care so much about universities when those who have graduated are busy roaming the streets of other states looking for jobs? Personally, I feel that building universities without building enough industries to absorb graduates means creating problem for ourselves and indeed Nigeria. Everyone must not go to university. Whatever happened to technical and vocational schools?

On the other hand, no matter what anyone thinks about imo being surrounded by Aba and Onitsha, I think it's important Imo builds her own industries not necessarily in Owerri but Okigwe or Orlu to create jobs for Ndi Imo and other Igbos. And who says we can't combine tourism and industries? Yes, we can because Lagos is a good example.

I just feel bad that S/East governors don't plan together. Why do we have to await federal govt to revive the coal in Enugu when we know that doing so as a people would create lots jobs for the Igbos? I think the governors can get a license (if that is necessary) from FG, pool their resources together, sign an MoU on how the revenue generated from coal can be shared, how the state indigenes will be employed, and how much power each state gets if the coal would be used for electricity generation.

University education is aimed to IMPROVE THE QUALITY of a society's population - not necessarily to enable graduates to get jobs.

By the time Orlu gets a full-fledged public university, you may start to insist we stop establishing universities. Owerri has about three public-financed universities now, Okigwe is served with the one at Uturu.

Business people establish industries - not government. Government only provides the enabling environment for industries.

If the governors from Orlu who had governed Imo state had known the importance of public - not private - university in an area, Orlu wouldn't have remained short-changed like this.

Even in times of global economic recession, industries and private universities can fold up, but towns and cities with government universities still remain vibrant.

millionaireman:


University education is aimed to IMPROVE THE QUALITY of a society's population - not necessarily to enable graduates to get jobs.

By the time Orlu gets a full-fledged public university, you may start to insist we stop establishing universities. Owerri has about three public-financed universities now, Okigwe is served with the one at Uturu.

Business people establish industries - not government. Government only provides the enabling environment for industries.

If the governors from Orlu who had governed Imo state had known the importance of public - not private - university in an area, Orlu wouldn't have remained short-changed like this.

Even in times of global economic recession, industries and private universities can fold up, but towns and cities with government universities still remain vibrant.

I insist Imo doesn't need more universities. Everyone must not go to the university - I don't even know where we got this university mentality from. You must not go to the university to be literate. Just a few should go. Nigeria needs youths with technical skills to propel its growth not bunch of unemployable degree holders.

University degrees don't put food on the table, skills do.

Most Americans don't go to the universities because their system is designed to discover the natural ability (skill) of a child and develop it - we must learn from them. Also, skill explains why a school leaver from the Japan and China will come to Nigeria and be a boss to a PhD holder. Yes, he has the skills to solve problem but we just memorise theories (formulae and principles) in books. These people know what we don't know.

Look at rich kids like Wizkid, Davido, Bow Wow, Rihanna, Chris Brown, and even Bill Gates and Mark Zukerberg...the list is just endless. They made fame and fortune because they developed their skills and kept "university" by the side. This 6-3-3-4 thing has taken us back for far too long. The world has moved and we have to keep pace with the trend. Creating more universities means creating more problems because universities don't even teach what we need to succeed in life. I'm a living witness. Today Innoson owns a motor plant and he's employing the so-called graduates - am sure you know that no Nigerian university taught him that.

Discovering talents and developing them are key - we don't need to have universities scattered all over the place to achieve it. Good vocational and technical schools can also "improve the quality of a society's population" as you'd put it. I don't mean that universities aren't good though, I mean we should move away from "academic knowledge" to "technical know-how." We really need some value re-orientation. Finally, you need to get off this "mainstream mentality" of having universities everywhere because it's taking us back...universities are expensive to maintain especially in Nigeria where Fed govt hugely subsidies varsity education.

I rest my case.

Nature129:


I insist Imo doesn't need more universities. Everyone must not go to the university - I don't even know where we got this university mentality from. You must not go to the university to be literate. Just a few should go. Nigeria needs youths with technical skills to propel its growth not bunch of unemployable degree holders.

University degrees don't put food on the table, skills do.

Most Americans don't go to the universities because their system is designed to discover the natural ability (skill) of a child and develop it - we must learn from them. Also, skill explains why a school leaver from the Japan and China will come to Nigeria and be a boss to a PhD holder. Yes, he has the skills to solve problem but we just memorise theories (formulae and principles) in books. These people know what we don't know.

Look at rich kids like Wizkid, Davido, Bow Wow, Rihanna, Chris Brown, and even Bill Gates and Mark Zukerberg...the list is just endless. They made fame and fortune because they developed their skills and kept "university" by the side. This 6-3-3-4 thing has taken us back for far too long. The world has moved and we have to keep pace with the trend. Creating more universities means creating more problems because universities don't even teach what we need to succeed in life. I'm a living witness. Today Innoson owns a motor plant and he's employing the so-called graduates - am sure you know that no Nigerian university taught him that.

Discovering talents and developing them are key - we don't need to have universities scattered all over the place to achieve it. Good vocational and technical schools can also "improve the quality of a society's population" as you'd put it. I don't mean that universities aren't good though, I mean we should move away from "academic knowledge" to "technical know-how." We really need some value re-orientation. Finally, you need to get off this "mainstream mentality" of having universities everywhere because it's taking us back...universities are expensive to maintain especially in Nigeria where Fed govt hugely subsidies varsity education.

I rest my case.

Sure you did not read, or you did not understand my first line above: {University education is aimed to IMPROVE THE QUALITY of a society's population - not necessarily to enable graduates to get jobs.} That's where the differences between both of us start. Bye.

Nature129:


I insist Imo doesn't need more universities. Everyone must not go to the university - I don't even know where we got this university mentality from. You must not go to the university to be literate. Just a few should go. Nigeria needs youths with technical skills to propel its growth not bunch of unemployable degree holders.

University degrees don't put food on the table, skills do.

Most Americans don't go to the universities because their system is designed to discover the natural ability (skill) of a child and develop it - we must learn from them. Also, skill explains why a school leaver from the Japan and China will come to Nigeria and be a boss to a PhD holder. Yes, he has the skills to solve problem but we just memorise theories (formulae and principles) in books. These people know what we don't know.

Look at rich kids like Wizkid, Davido, Bow Wow, Rihanna, Chris Brown, and even Bill Gates and Mark Zukerberg...the list is just endless. They made fame and fortune because they developed their skills and kept "university" by the side. This 6-3-3-4 thing has taken us back for far too long. The world has moved and we have to keep pace with the trend. Creating more universities means creating more problems because universities don't even teach what we need to succeed in life. I'm a living witness. Today Innoson owns a motor plant and he's employing the so-called graduates - am sure you know that no Nigerian university taught him that.

Discovering talents and developing them are key - we don't need to have universities scattered all over the place to achieve it. Good vocational and technical schools can also "improve the quality of a society's population" as you'd put it. I don't mean that universities aren't good though, I mean we should move away from "academic knowledge" to "technical know-how." We really need some value re-orientation. Finally, you need to get off this "mainstream mentality" of having universities everywhere because it's taking us back...universities are expensive to maintain especially in Nigeria where Fed govt hugely subsidies varsity education.

I rest my case.

Your right on point. University education in Nigeria is meant to propagate ignorance. Great individuals educate themselves.

@Pchidexy,

You mean Nigerian universities propagate people of your sort?

Too many Nigerians who attended modern Nigerian universities excel in Western countries.

After a little exposure to Western systems, some Nigerian trained graduates even perform better than the ones trained in Western universities.

Orlu is being served by the university in Uli and Ongoing Imo Maritime University Oguta as well as IMSU Teaching Hospital, College of Health and Orlu campus of Imo Poly whose main campus is still in Orlu zone.

millionaireman:


University education is aimed to IMPROVE THE QUALITY of a society's population - not necessarily to enable graduates to get jobs.

By the time Orlu gets a full-fledged public university, you may start to insist we stop establishing universities. Owerri has about three public-financed universities now, Okigwe is served with the one at Uturu.

Business people establish industries - not government. Government only provides the enabling environment for industries.

If the governors from Orlu who had governed Imo state had known the importance of public - not private - university in an area, Orlu wouldn't have remained short-changed like this.

Even in times of global economic recession, industries and private universities can fold up, but towns and cities with government universities still remain vibrant.

RareDiamond:
Orlu is being served by the university in Uli and Ongoing Imo Maritime University Oguta as well as IMSU Teaching Hospital, College of Health and Orlu campus of Imo Poly whose main campus is still in Orlu zone.

Bros,
Each time I stated the truth that Okigwe is served by ABSU in nearby Uturu, you resorted to the above diversionary ......

Well, it's not your fault. It's the fault of politicians from Orlu.
Orlu has produced governors who do not understand the importance and advantages of a full government university for the large population of people in the Orlu area.

RareDiamond:
Orlu is being served by the university in Uli and Ongoing Imo Maritime University Oguta as well as IMSU Teaching Hospital, College of Health and Orlu campus of Imo Poly whose main campus is still in Orlu zone.

Dude you are funny oh! Which University in Uli serves Orlu? If you have been to Okigwe, you will come to appreciate what millionaireman is saying. More than half of the student population that stay off campus live in Okigwe, not to talk of the staff. A bus of #50 ( I don't know if the price has appreciated though) from any part of Owerri road will take you to Uturu. To the extent that Absu students started relocating to Low Cost which they will need to take a bike to town before taking a bus. From the way you attack millionaireman each time he cries about Orlu zone needing a Uni, I have come to the conclusion that you are from Okigwe zone. All you have to do is to also give your own reason why Okigwe zone needs a University. You don't need to be attacking him cos your attacking him makes it look like the two zones are competing. If he shouts that Orlu needs a Uni, also shout that Okigwe needs one too ts not as if the things we type here are implemented at home. Daalu!!!

Video of driving in Amaigbo Imo State. Is Amaigbo a rural, urban or semi-urban town?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejn2SUvdKNI

abagoro:
Video of driving in Amaigbo Imo State. Is Amaigbo a rural, urban or semi-urban town?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejn2SUvdKNI

not much difference if you are driving from owerri to umuahia

asha80:
not much difference if you are driving from owerri to umuahia

Are you saying that Owerri to Umuahia is a non-stop sprawl? I know Owerri to Egbu, Emekuku and Awaka is a sprawl and after a short forest of About 2km you enter another Mbaise sprawl but I do not know Mbaise to Umuahia.

What this means is that there is land crisis.

abagoro:


Are you saying that Owerri to Umuahia is a non-stop sprawl? I know Owerri to Egbu, Emekuku and Awaka is a sprawl and after a short forest of About 2km you enter another Mbaise sprawl but I do not know Mbaise to Umuahia.

What this means is that there is land crisis.

mbaise to umuahia is pretty much the same..as for land crises I am not too such because if you vie off the road on each side there are still pockets of empty land but the scattered settlement pattern in the east is a bit of an issue and quite frankly in those areas along the road that look like forest from the express you might be surprised to see settlements in those areas