EVarn:
I've been trying to enlighten people on the issue of homosexualism on quite a number of occasions on nairaland,while I know that a few people may have so far began reconsidering their unprovoked hatred for homosexuals,it seems that majority of the people are so keen on accepting ignorance and intellectual redundancy as social mainstay.Sadly,this is unacceptable,if this is the quality of people Nigeria has to offer,then no wonder the country is always nose-diving into the lagoon.
Sometimes,I feel alone in my level of enlightenment.As if i'm the only reasonable person in this country.
It is quite disturbing indeed.

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So you call yourself enlightened in seeing a fellow man nash dey follow am? Wetin you know about light? You've been endarkenned by the demon of homosexualism!!!!! Anyway you make your money rituals from it so stop talking like a modern angel of death (secularism n Godlessness)

EVarn:
The modern world is a world where everybody is free,where people arent persecuted.The modern world is what we are witnessing in North America and Europe,sadly,Africa is still clinging to the backwardness that has turned the continent into a devastating cesspit of societal evils.Africa is indeed the 'jungle'.

"And ye shall be like gods"

Do you know which verse in the bible that quote is from and who said it?

The New Age Doctrine you subscribe to in the form of liberal politics is of the devils way.

I know that you struggle with deep guilt and anger over your lifestyle and the only reason you fagg0ts want to for e this your depraved lifestyle on all of us is because you feel that if we all accept it then you will not have all this guilt.

Pray and believe in GOD and call the name of Jesus to help you out of this bondage you exist.

Homosexuality is an evil choice just like drug addiction.

Nobody was born gay but they get turned gay.

Don't you see normal couples on the streets or a man and his wife and kids and wish for that for yourself?

There is nothing more beautiful and tempting than a woman in this world. You don't know what you are missing.

Pray to God for he is the only one that can set you free and no matter how far gone or sick you feel of this homosexual life, GOD will make anew with your life. It is never too late.

I want you to say this prayer :

Father God in Heaven, I come to you seeking refuge. I come to you as my only supplicant. Father God heal me of this sin. Father God make me a man that you created. Father God forgive me of all my sins.

I pray thee this prayer through your only begotten son , Yeshua.

Amen.

MaziKachi:
Quite honestly,I've been thinking of a better Nigeria,and one of the ways to foster that is to promote tolerance,which I aim to do with this.I wonder why Seun would support abortions(i once saw him comment in support of it) and would be totally indifferent towards oppression.Nigerians need to be Educated.

The truth is; you cannot change people,you can only manipulate them.People change only when they want to change,they cannot be forced,otherwise it would lead to violation of fundamental rights.
However,I'm of the view that people should be manipulated when absolutely necessary,for the greater good of the society.
The level of intolerance and f0lly in this continent is at an alarming credenso,waiting to explode,but as an african,as a Nigerian,I cannot allow my country to be flushed down the sewers by the action of ignorant sheep in the society,therefore I will always do whatever it takes to enlighten people in the society.

imhotep:

"Development" and "Westernization" are not synonyms.
Perhaps you need to go back to school

I am not a crusader for westernization,I only advocate tolerance.If we are going to have a developed society,then we have to tolerate the minority we dont like.

EVarn:
The truth is; you cannot change people,you can only manipulate them.People change only when they want to change,they cannot be forced,otherwise it would lead to violation of fundamental rights.
However,I'm of the view that people should be manipulated when absolutely necessary,for the greater good of the society.
The level of intolerance and f0lly in this continent is at an alarming credenso,waiting to explode,but as an african,as a Nigerian,I cannot allow my country to be flushed down the sewers by the action of ignorant sheep in the society,therefore I will always do whatever it takes to enlighten people in the society.

Why should you manipulate people to get them to agree with you?

Isn't that deciet on it's own?

The truth is what the devil struggles through manipulation to hide the truth and the deciet the devil has implanted in you gays is that you are living a normal lifestyle and that society is your problem.

Don't be fooled by the west. Their time of retribution is already here. They exist in a the final declining stages of their empire- the age of decadence.

Morality is not defined by ones own view but by ones inner conscience. Deep down inside you, you know your lifestyle is sinful. The devil wants you to believe that all that guilt comes from society nit accepting or understanding you while the truth is that, that young boy in you is crying to be let free from this bondage.

Read your bible and pray to God for HE is the only way out of this bondage.

EVarn:
I am not a crusader for westernization,I only advocate tolerance.


If we are going to have a developed society,then we have to tolerate the minority we dont like.

^ Again, you continue to conflate "development" with "westernization".

achiphet:
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So you call yourself enlightened in seeing a fellow man nash dey follow am? Wetin you know about light? You've been endarkenned by the demon of homosexualism!!!!! Anyway you make your money rituals from it so stop talking like a modern angel of death (secularism n Godlessness)

Lol,So now I am a ritualist?
Some have labelled me a CIA operative,an occultic member,an american cyber-agent,an european master-spy,an ignorant f00l,someone even went as far as claiming that i'm possessed by an obscure evil spirit,but I must say that none have called me a "money ritualist" so far,except you of course.
This goes to show the low intellectual quality of people we have in our society.

PvtParts:
Why should you manipulate people to get them to agree with you?
Isn't that deciet on it's own?
The truth is what the devil struggles through manipulation to hide the truth and the deciet the devil has implanted in you gays is that you are living a normal lifestyle and that society is your problem.
Don't be fooled by the west.Their time of retribution is already here.They exist in a the final declining stages of their empire-the age of decadence.
Morality is not defined by ones own view but by ones inner conscience.Deep down inside you,you know your lifestyle is sinful.The devil wants you to believe that all that guilt comes from society nit accepting or understanding you while the truth is that,that young boy in you is crying to be let free from this bondage.
Read your bible and pray to God for HE is the only way out of this bondage.

All individuals are only capable of understanding what the believe,but in end,let everyone hold on to his understanding.Are you are pastor?

imhotep:

^ Again, you continue to conflate "development" with "westernization".

how is that?

EVarn:
how is that?

Read your posts and see

imhotep:
Read your posts and see

You simply enjoy being sarcastic.

EVarn:
You simply enjoy being sarcastic.

"development" does not mean monkeying the actions of confused white people

imhotep:

"development" does not mean monkeying the actions of confused white people

"Confused" white people that control 80% of the world economy and 92% of the world military.

EVarn:
"Confused" white people that control 80% of the world economy and 92% of the world military.

1. "Economics is the naked emperor of the social sciences"
2. You need to think beyond the wolf-eat-wolf jungle existence that is called the "modern world".

imhotep:

Are you aware that homosexuality is part and parcel of many voodoo rituals?
Better ask your elders about African traditions/realities before you parrot American propaganda.

it means, gay is gay

ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS 14 YEARS IN THE GALLOS IF I SEE YOU IN THE ACT

MaziKachi:
Talk about legalizing or at least ignoring homosexuals in Nigeria and the average Nigerian youth will show up online and begin to throw tantrums. The reason for their homophobia is simple, its unnatural for a man to love a fellow man, its against our customs and traditions and it’s a moral ill. So when President Goodluck Jonathan signed the bill criminalising homosexuality, the whole Nigerians commended the “feat”. Of course, the West spoke out and Nigerians, in their usual bursts of inferiority complex, a deep seated fear that they were colonised and 50 years later, they are still dependent on their colonisers, spoke out, saying that America cannot impose its “devilish gay agenda” in Nigeria. Fine and good. Now, let us carefully dissect this situation, at the end, you’ll see that Nigerians are contradicting themselves.

According to the human rights declaration, all humans have the
• Right to self-determination[1]
• Right to liberty[2]
• Right to due process of law[2]
• Right to freedom of movement[3]
• Right to freedom of thought[4]
• Right to freedom of religion[4]
• Right to freedom of expression[5]
• Right to peacefully assemble[6]
• Right to freedom of association[7]

( Ref https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_rights )

So if we claim that homosexuality is a moral ill, what right have we to choose for another person, his religion? What right have we to decide what is right and what is not about another person’s life? Homosexuality, sex between two people of same sex in the privacy of their rooms and with the full consent of both parties does no harm to anyone, it doesn’t infringe of any of your fundamental human rights so what right have you to judge another human, to castigate another human simply because he chose to love a man his sex? If you claim its against your religion, do you know if his permits it?

Africans, having gone through slavery should be at the fore front of homosexual rights, not its biggest obstacle. In 1959, the police in Virginia arrested a couple, Richard Loving and Mildred Jeter. Their crime? They were married to each other. Richard was a white guy and Mildred a colored lady. If this had happened in 2015, Nigerians would have been online, throwing all manner of vituperations and accusing the United States of supporting racism. But then again, what is the difference between arresting an interracial couple for choosing to love one another and arresting a homosexual couple for choosing to love one another? Nothing! In both cases, the couples are arrested because the chose to be different, not to follow forged paths. At the end, Nigeria’s hostility towards homosexuals would be the greatest hypocrisy there ever was.

Another argument, perhaps, the most ridiculous of them all, is that homosexuality is against our culture and traditions. Then I begin to wonder which “culture” and which “traditions” these people mean. You sleep with a girl before you get married, it’s not against “our culture”, you become a Christian or a Muslim, it’s not against “our culture”, You marry from another tribe, it’s still not against “our culture”, you even go ahead desecrate shrines in the name of Christianity or Islam and it’s still not against “our culture” then, then when somebody speaks of accepting a man who chose to love another man, which by the way, is none of your business and you spring up with the argument that it is against our “culture” the one begins to wonder if you’re being hypocritical or you just decided to close your eyes to reason. Again, Kendall(1990) posited from her research in various African countries, prominent of which is Lesotho, that African culture, though not recognising homosexual marriages, was not homophobic. So I truly wonder where the argument of “culture” and “tradition” stems from and if this “cultures and traditions” cannot be changed by men who made them.

Finally, the sole aim of this piece is not to ask for the legalisation of same sex marriages in Nigeria, it is to ask for the acceptance of homosexuals as normal sane people who are aware of their decisions. It is to ask for the repeal of the law that criminalises same sex association in Nigeria. When we start to grow tolerant of each other and realise that a love affair between two consenting men or women does not hurt you or affect you in any way is when we’ll understand that being Igbo or Hausa does not really matter when it comes to determining the destiny of Nigeria. I am not a homosexual, but having read so much literature on slavery and what the black race has had to pass through to be accepted, I feel we should embrace and accept the LGBT community in our midst.

References:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/may/21/complex-roots-africa-homophobia
http://thisisafrica.me/homosexuality-african-history-roots-criminalisation-homosexuality/
http://nehandaradio.com/2014/03/10/homosexuality-battle-african-conservatism/


NB; I'll only reply to objective criticisms of this piece.

cc: lalasticlala

okoocheche:
it means, gay is gay

your point being?

I will continue to say this homosexuality is a sickness dat needs rehabilitation,it is a psychological problem,if we allow two men to kiss behind the comfort of their doors,they will soon take it outside,soon young&upcoming generations will see this as normal soon humans will become endangered species,families wouldn't be normal anymore,homosexuality is a key used by world powers for population control,dat is y pple like OP have been brainwashed by the media to support dis whack motion

Vyntra:
,homosexuality is a key used by world powers for population control,

^^ is MaziKachi seeing this

MaziKachi:


I'm not gay. Just a person who hates oppression. I believe i sufficiently addressed the issue of "religion" and "culture and tradition" in the piece.

You should try teaching them that gayism is evil. That is the no 1 step to get them out of oppression.

kosovo:
The irony is that Nigeria and Kenyan ranks top 5 countries who search for gay related images and videos globally..

I wonder who does the searches.. The same people scream on Nairaland in the day and return to their little cubicle to view those gay media in the night..

The hypocrisy of a black man has always been the reason why their inferiority complex is exposed in full glory.

I normally do not comment on homosexuality and I dont expect the OP to get any meaning input from anyone here..

Life is a choice.. To be or not to be.. I still maintain that everything in life can be learned and un-learned.

Believe those cooked up gay porn search facts at your own peril,

When Americans want to push any country into what they don't want, they are known to plant false facts. But it will never work.

imhotep:

Take your homosexuality to the USA, they will embrace you there.

AFRICA DOES NOT NEED HOMOSEXUALITY

You do not speak for me or an entire Africa from South Africa to the North!......I bet not even for the entire Nigeria.
Speak for yourself as an individual and for your family which I guess could be having a gay member in the closet .....only heavens or hell knows.

The problem with your types is intolerance[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font](TRIBALISM,DISCRIMINATION,GREED,CORRUPTION which is bred by your hate and superstitions/religiosity).
No wonder the disgusting state of your nation........WAR(BOKO HARAM) AND PESTILENCE....BECAUSE 99.99999% OF YOUR PEOPLE ARE INTOLERANT.
A SHAME ON THE BLACK RACE CONSIDERING YOUR HUGE NUMBERS AS THE MOST POPULOUS DISASTROUS BLACK NATION.
I am not Nigerian for your information.

PvtParts:


"And ye shall be like gods"

Do you know which verse in the bible that quote is from and who said it?

The New Age Doctrine you subscribe to in the form of liberal politics is of the devils way.

I know that you struggle with deep guilt and anger over your lifestyle and the only reason you fagg0ts[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font][size=8pt][/size] want to for e this your depraved lifestyle on all of us is because you feel that if we all accept it then you will not have all this guilt.

Pray and believe in GOD and call the name of Jesus to help you out of this bondage you exist.

Homosexuality is an evil choice just like drug addiction.

Nobody was born gay but they get turned gay.

Don't you see normal couples on the streets or a man and his wife and kids and wish for that for yourself?

There is nothing more beautiful and tempting than a woman in this world. You don't know what you are missing.

Pray to God for he is the only one that can set you free and no matter how far gone or sick you feel of this homosexual life, GOD will make anew with your life. It is never too late.

I want you to say this prayer :

Father God in Heaven, I come to you seeking refuge. I come to you as my only supplicant. Father God heal me of this sin. Father God make me a man that you created. Father God forgive me of all my sins.

I pray thee this prayer through your only begotten son , Yeshua.

Amen.

Are you serious?.......insulting people calling them fagg0ts while praying?...hahaahahahahhahahahhahhahahhahahhahhhahahhahaahahhahahahahaahhahahahhahahhh......your god/gods must really be a nude bastard!....your IQ level is soo low...hahahah!

Why Nigeria must rject homosexuality - God in his holy books condemns it.

Why Nigeria must reject homosexuality - God in his holy books condemns it.

PvtParts:


Go and Phuck your father faggin

You again with such words coming from your mouth?.............yet down the comments section I saw you "praying"?....hahhahhaahahahahahahhahahahhhahhahahahhhhah!!!.....
This is hillarious!

Such a nasty pastor!.......i wonder what god is that you are praying to!.....hahahahahhahah
It clearly shows that you have no argument or justification and that you are merely motivated by your deep seated bigotry,hate,intolerance and irk factor.
Now I know gays have all along been wrongly persecuted.......such hypocritical pretenders!...you can put a prayer and deadly insults together in one verse?...hahahhah!
Wonders shall never end!!!

jjamani:


Oga make you shut up...all this your Africa tolerance and Co.. what will you say of Developed Country's like Russia ....
you better Repent.. you just a took use by an Evil Element ( Demons )

Well good point.....how about you move now to Russia ...with your PITCH BLACKNESS,WIDE NOSE AND THICK LIPS COUPLED WITH CURLY HAIR?....AND LETS SEE IF THEY WILL NOT HESITATE TURNING THE SAME INTOLERANCE FROM THEIR GAYS TO YOUR BLACK ASS..

HA!..why can't you use even a tiny portion of your brains to think?......do you even have one?
And why were you overloading the system trying to apply for green card or visa to enter America rather than Russia?
Don't you think you sound very foolish to the rest of the civilized world/especially being an African that you are?

Chiaka:
Why Nigeria must reject homosexuality - God in his holy books condemns it.

What if I told you that my God accepts it? I have the right to practice any religion I deem fit, including the one I invented. Finally, Jesus wouldn't lock gay people in prison for being gay. Just like he did with mathew and zaccheus, he would accept them and tolerate them, that is all I ask for. I'm not asking Nigeria to legalise gay marriage, I'm asking Nigeria not to persecute them. I'm also asking Nigerians to accept and tolerate them, is that too much?

imhotep:

Fine, then respect Christians in Nigeria.
I hope you know that the Koran contains much of the Christian Old Testament

great. So Christians should learn to respect other religions as well, and even the non-religious because we all have the right of worship in the Nigerian constitution.

achiphet:
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So you call yourself enlightened in seeing a fellow man nash dey follow am? Wetin you know about light? You've been endarkenned by the demon of homosexualism!!!!! Anyway you make your money rituals from it so stop talking like a modern angel of death (secularism n Godlessness)

and you call yourself enlightened in seeing a 90 year old man nyash a 9 year old? Yet your religion prescribes that.

An2elect2:



You should try teaching them that gayism is evil. That is the no 1 step to get them out of oppression.

How is it evil? Has homosexuality ever been responsible for any of the problems in your life?

PvtParts:


"And ye shall be like gods"

Do you know which verse in the bible that quote is from and who said it?

The New Age Doctrine you subscribe to in the form of liberal politics is of the devils way.

I know that you struggle with deep guilt and anger over your lifestyle and the only reason you fagg0ts want to for e this your depraved lifestyle on all of us is because you feel that if we all accept it then you will not have all this guilt.

Pray and believe in GOD and call the name of Jesus to help you out of this bondage you exist.

Homosexuality is an evil choice just like drug addiction.

Nobody was born gay but they get turned gay.

Don't you see normal couples on the streets or a man and his wife and kids and wish for that for yourself?

There is nothing more beautiful and tempting than a woman in this world. You don't know what you are missing.

Pray to God for he is the only one that can set you free and no matter how far gone or sick you feel of this homosexual life, GOD will make anew with your life. It is never too late.

I want you to say this prayer :

Father God in Heaven, I come to you seeking refuge. I come to you as my only supplicant. Father God heal me of this sin. Father God make me a man that you created. Father God forgive me of all my sins.

I pray thee this prayer through your only begotten son , Yeshua.

Amen.

as much as you love eating eba, do you know that some persons are allergic to it? do you know that eating rice makes some persons sick?

Everyone might not like what you like.

And you God must not be my God. it's a fundamental right inscribed in our constitution.